CRISIS AIG IS NEXT!!!

Maher

Inactive
...The credit crisis has also hit US insurer AIG, which is suffering from a declining share price and facing a possible downgrading of its credit rating.

AIG is being forced to extreme measures, including perhaps selling off subsidiaries to extricate itself from billions of dollars in losses, the Wall Street Journal reported in its online edition Sunday.

Citing an AIG insider, the respected US business journal said AIG was considering a teleconference with analysts on Monday, at which the process of restructuring would be outlined.

AIG, which has a worldwide presence in the insurance industry, has suffered a 45-per-cent drop in its share price over just a few weeks.

The company lost more than 18 billion dollars in the last three quarters due to enormous write-offs from the ongoing US credit crisis.

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/...ontinue-amid-lehman-takeover-speculation.html
 

NoThing

Veteran Member
As I said in the "deflation" thread...if the run on Lehman isn't stopped by the time Asia opens today it's TEOTGlobal Financial SystemAWKI. The premium on all financial CDSs is going through the roof.
 

Maher

Inactive
Lehman woes threaten AIG and Merrill Lynch

Lehman woes threaten AIG and Merrill Lynch

Randall Smith and Liz Rappaport | September 15, 2008

AS the endgame plays out for Lehman Brothers, pressure is rising on two other financial behemoths to take action to convince investors to stick with them.

On Friday, credit ratings firm Standard&Poor's threatened to downgrade American International Group, citing the significant decline in the company's share price and the increase in credit spreads on the company's debt.

Meanwhile, AIG will likely hold an analyst call this morning and could announce a series of steps aimed at reassuring investors, including possible asset sales, a source said.

A rapid plunge during the week in the price of AIG shares -- the stock fell more than 30 per cent on Friday alone -- coupled with equally worrisome signs for the insurance giant in the debt markets appeared to increase the heat on management to act.

News of AIG's plan marked a turnaround in tone for the company, which just on Thursday had determined to unveil the strategy of new chief executive Robert Willumstad later this month.

The company's stock has fallen steadily in recent weeks and is down 79 per cent this year.

Meanwhile, shares of securities firm Merrill Lynch fell 38 per cent in the four trading days since concerns emerged about Lehman's viability as an independent company when talks to sell a stake to a Korean bank ended.

While both Merrill and AIG were roiled as Lehman-generated concerns rippled through the market, each has distinct sets of problems.

The concerns about Merrill centre on its holdings of the same kinds of assets, commercial real estate and residential mortgages, that required write-downs by Lehman. Investors also are concerned that Merrill, despite having purged itself of most of its exposure to toxic mortgage assets, could have the weakest balance sheet of the three major independent securities firms that would remain after the demise of Bear Stearns in March and a sale of Lehman.

The other independents are Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley. Some Wall Street analysts estimate that if Merrill took markdowns comparable to Lehman's, it could face an additional $US3.5 billion beyond the $US5.7 billion hit announced on July 28 that accompanied Merrill's sale of mortgage assets to Lone Star Funds.

That, some analyst say, could require Merrill to raise even more capital, further diluting investors, after the firm raised more than $US23 billion in several different steps since last December to shore up its balance sheet.

New Lehman-like write-downs for Merrill could mean "they have another capital raise" in store, said David Trone, an analyst at Fox-Pitt, Kelton.

Others maintain the two investment banks' portfolios and business lines differ.

Analysts say Merrill's $US17.6 billion in commercial real estate assets are higher-quality than Lehman's, which were written down by $US1.7 billion to $US32.6 billion. Lehman has holdings in apartment owner Archstone-Smith and California land developer SunCal, whose value has weakened sharply.

Merrill also has $US5.4 billion of commercial mortgage-backed securities and $US5.9 billion of Alt-A mortgages, made to borrowers who do not fully document their income.

Glenn Schorr of UBS said Merrill had "a bigger, more diversified franchise" than Lehman, particularly with its league-leading army of brokers serving individual investors, plenty of cash and an extra capital cushion in its 49 per cent stake in money manager BlackRock. However, he said, Lehman's fate showed "the fragile nature" of investor confidence. As for AIG, which has posted $US18billion in losses over the past three quarters, it is in a chicken-egg game. As its stock and debt woes brew, it could face a ratings downgrade that would force it to raise capital.

But the lower its stock price, the harder it becomes to raise capital.

On the plus side, as an insurer, AIG has advantages that some other financial institutions do not.

Additional reporting:

Liam Pleven

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24344708-36375,00.html
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
The problem is the incestuous relationships all these Financial Houses have with each other. They've been inbreeding (in a manner of speaking) and now we have the monstrous problem they've begat.
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
Couldn't happen to a better company.....AIG was the insurance company for my suburban back in MI when I got rear ended. I ended up suing them to make them pay for my injuries, doc bills, hospital and surgery costs.....they didn't want to pay after taking large premium on 3 vehicles that we owned back then.....plus the work truck.....grrrrr.
They settled out of court and I am still having problems but the money all went to cover the bills way back then. I should have sued for more......cheapskates! I hope they get what's coming to them as I am positive they have done it to thousands of others over the years.

All I can say is GOOD. Let em take the fall.....grrrrrrrrr again.
 

Oldotaku

Veteran Member
I've got a car insured with AIG, which is paid up until November. They just sent me a bill for coverage starting in November! They must truly be desperate for cash if they send out a bill 2 months before it's due. I have to re-register the car in a new state, so I'm lining up new coverage with a different company, so AIG can tank as far as I'm concerned. They sure weren't the best buy anyway.
 

Barry Natchitoches

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Neither my wife nor I have had an accident in many years, so auto insurance companies are always sending us solicitations to change to their insurance company.


Just last night, I threw away an invitation from AIG to transfer to their coverage.


Glad I dumped it...
 

LeafyForest

Veteran Member
Neither my wife nor I have had an accident in many years, so auto insurance companies are always sending us solicitations to change to their insurance company.
Just last night, I threw away an invitation from AIG to transfer to their coverage. Glad I dumped it...
Also - You wouldn't know they are in trouble with all the insurance ads on TV - it is AIG several times every hour - and it sounds like they are perfect - - gets very tiring!!
 

rodeorector

Global Moderator
I don't understand how AIG could be hurting that bad. Insurance companies have been raping the public since their inception.
 

Nuthatch

Membership Revoked
from www.bloomberg.com

AIG Falls After Failing to Give Plan to Save Rating (Update1)

By Hugh Son

Sept. 15 (Bloomberg) -- American International Group Inc., the largest U.S. insurer by assets, fell by almost half in early trading as the company failed to present a plan to raise capital and stave off credit downgrades.
AIG executives spent yesterday in discussions with buyout firms including KKR & Co. and J.C. Flowers & Co. as the insurer sought to raise $20 billion in capital and sell $20 billion of assets, people familiar with the talks said. AIG later sought a $40 billion bridge loan from the Federal Reserve, the New York Times reported, citing an unnamed person.

Chief Executive Officer Robert Willumstad is under pressure to raise capital and sell units after three quarterly losses totaling $18.5 billion. Investors are concerned the New York- based insurer can't raise enough cash to withstand further writedowns from credit-default swaps, contracts AIG sold to protect fixed-income investors.

``AIG could be a much bigger problem than, say, Lehman'' Brothers Holdings Inc., the securities firm that filed for bankruptcy protection today, said Marc Faber, managing director of Marc Faber Ltd., in a Bloomberg Television interview.

Standard & Poor's said Sept. 12 it may downgrade AIG's credit ratings because the share declines may crimp the insurer's access to capital.

AIG fell $5.88, or 48 percent, to $6.26 at 8:05 a.m. in New York. The shares had fallen 79 percent this year before today, making it the worst performer in the Dow Jones Industrial Average.

`The Public Good'

A ratings cut may have ``a material adverse effect on AIG's liquidity'' and trigger more than $13 billion in collateral calls from debt investors who bought the swaps, the insurer said in an Aug. 6 filing. AIG has already posted $16.5 billion in collateral through July 31. A downgrade could also set off early termination of swaps that may cause $4.6 billion in payments, AIG said.

``It seems more and more likely that AIG may go to the Federal Reserve window to borrow cash at the discount rate, should the Fed allow it,'' said Citigroup Inc. analyst Joshua Shanker in a note to investors today in which he downgraded the company's shares to ``hold.''

``We believe AIG will survive, but we have little indication of how many business lines will ultimately need to be sold and how dilutive to shareholders' future capital raising efforts will be,'' Shanker said.

AIG spokesman Nicholas Ashooh and the Fed's Michelle Smith didn't return phone calls seeking comment.

The Federal Reserve yesterday widened the collateral it accepts for loans to Wall Street bond dealers as the financial industry braced for a Lehman bankruptcy filing. The 158-year-old securities firm filed a Chapter 11 petition with U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Manhattan today.

Federal Reserve

``The steps we are announcing today, along with significant commitments from the private sector, are intended to mitigate the potential risks and disruptions to markets,'' Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke said in a statement released in Washington yesterday, said people familiar with the situation.

The buyout firms met with AIG executives in New York, said one of the people, who declined to be named because the talks were private. AIG is said to be working with advisers JPMorgan Chase & Co., Citigroup and Blackstone Group LP.

J.C. Flowers had offered $8 billion for a stake in the insurer that would have given the firm an option to buy the rest of AIG, the Times said.

Banking, Reinsurance

American General Finance, AIG's consumer lender, could fetch more than $6 billion if the unit sold for twice its book value. AIG Investments could sell for more than $3 billion if it sold for 2.5 percent of clients' assets under management. The company's stake in reinsurer Transatlantic Holdings Inc. is worth about $2.2 billion, based on the Sept. 12 share price.

Bank of America Corp. analyst Alain Karaoglan said Willumstad, 63, should reconsider the decision to keep its aircraft-leasing unit, International Lease Finance Corp. which could sell for $7 billion to $14 billion.

The insurer raised $20.3 billion in May by selling debt and equity, diluting the holdings of long-time investors. It's ``very hard to predict'' if AIG will need more capital, Willumstad said Aug. 7.

Dinallo, Paterson

New York Governor David Paterson and Insurance Superintendent Eric Dinallo have been ``very, very closely involved,'' in AIG's planning, said David Neustadt, a spokesman for Dinallo, in an interview yesterday. ``We've spent the last two days at AIG headquarters.''

AIG's former CEO and Chairman Maurice ``Hank'' Greenberg, who controls the largest stake in the insurer, wasn't involved in the company's planning this weekend and has ``repeatedly offered'' to assist the firm, said spokesman Glen Rochkind.

Greenberg, 83, saw the holdings decline by $3.1 billion last week. He controls 11 percent of AIG shares through two investment firms and personal holdings.
 

changed

Preferred pronouns: dude/bro
Friday morning I thought about posting a thread asking members who they thought would fail that day (they always seemed to happen on fridays, once a week). I decided not to post it and here they announce it the following monday morning.

Who do you think will fail next weekend?
 
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