ECON About That Spending Chart Liberals Have Been Waving Around …

dstraito

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About That Spending Chart Liberals Have Been Waving Around …

The other night in a debate on Chicago’s PBS station, the host threw in the face of Heartland’s Steve Stanek a chart promoted by big-spending liberals — such as The Washington Post’s Ezra Klein — that is supposed to be proof that President Obama’s spending is nothing compared to that of his predecessor.
Steve, well-prepared for the query (see his story at Budget & Tax News), would not be a victim of an ambush. He reached into his brain for the perfect description of the chart, calling it “mendacious.”




Charts and more info at the link, bottom line -> The liberal talking-point chart is absurd. Or, as Steve said, “mendacious.” Otherwise known as a lie.


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dstraito

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They included the tax cuts as spending and made assumptions on the amount of revenue that would have been brought in had the tax cuts not been made.

Lies, Damned lies and the crap they are selling. You can make stats say anything by the numbers you include or don't include.

Not even having a budget is pretty telling not to mention the number of times they have had to raise the debt ceiling and probably will have to do so again.
 

dstraito

TB Fanatic
This is important because right now the number one concern the incumbent in the POTUS race has is the economy. Since they can't do anything about the damage their economic polities and spending has caused they are doing the only thing they can which is to try to reframe the numbers not only to where they don't look so bad but they can say it is the fault of the GOP.

The following article is about the real deficit as opposed to what they want people to believe. I'm starting to see these false charts and manipulated numbers showing up everywhere. They are going to spend most of that billion dollars in campaign funds trying to cover up the damage they have done.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/story/2012-05-18/federal-deficit-accounting/55179748/1

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Real federal deficit dwarfs official tally

The typical American household would have paid nearly all of its income in taxes last year to balance the budget if the government used standard accounting rules to compute the deficit, a USA TODAY analysis finds.

Under those accounting practices, the government ran red ink last year equal to $42,054 per household — nearly four times the official number reported under unique rules set by Congress.

A U.S. household's median income is $49,445, the Census reports.

The big difference between the official deficit and standard accounting: Congress exempts itself from including the cost of promised retirement benefits. Yet companies, states and local governments must include retirement commitments in financial statements, as required by federal law and private boards that set accounting rules.

The deficit was $5 trillion last year under those rules. The official number was $1.3 trillion. Liabilities for Social Security, Medicare and other retirement programs rose by $3.7 trillion in 2011, according to government actuaries, but the amount was not registered on the government's books.
Contrasting deficits

The federal government calculates the deficit in a way that makes the number smaller than if standard accounting rules were followed (in trillions).

Sources: USA TODAY research; Congressional Budget Office

Deficits are a major issue in this year's presidential campaign, but USA TODAY has calculated federal finances under accounting rules since 2004 and found no correlation between fluctuations in the deficit and which party ran Congress or the White House.

Key findings:

•Social Security had the biggest financial slide. The government would need $22.2 trillion today, set aside and earning interest, to cover benefits promised to current workers and retirees beyond what taxes will cover. That's $9.5 trillion more than was needed in 2004.

•Deficits from 2004 to 2011 would be six times the official total of $5.6 trillion reported.

•Federal debt and retiree commitments equal $561,254 per household. By contrast, an average household owes a combined $116,057 for mortgages, car loans and other debts.

"By law, the federal government can't tell the truth," says accountant Sheila Weinberg of the Chicago-based Institute for Truth in Accounting.
 

dstraito

TB Fanatic
Not that Biden is credible but it does show certain desperation in the Dim's economic mess they have put us in. People need to be aware of WHO put us in this mess so when we collapse we can not only assign the blame but figure out who to listen to in the attempt to rebuild.

Biden Likens GOP Economic Strategy to Blaming Rape Victims

Ratcheting up the rhetoric in the Washington budget battle, Vice President Biden on Friday likened the Republican strategy of seeking to slash federal spending while championing tax breaks for the wealthy to rape victims being blamed for the rape.

At a lavish Philadelphia fundraising luncheon that raised $400,000 for Democratic congressional campaigns, Biden began his attack on Republicans by crediting the 1994 Violence Against Women Act that he and former Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter (who was in attendance) authored for changing society's attitude about blaming rape victims.

"When a woman got raped, blame her because she was wearing a skirt too short, she looked the wrong way or she wasn't home in time to make dinner," he said. "We've gotten by that."

Then Biden turned his focus to the current spending debate in which Democrats and Republicans are fighting over how much to cut from the federal budget.

"But it's amazing how these Republicans, the right wing of this party – whose philosophy threw us into this godawful hole we're in, gave us the tremendous deficit we've inherited – that they're now using the very economic condition they have created to blame the victim – whether it's organized labor or ordinary middle-class working men and women," he said.

"It's bizarre," he added.

The Republican National Committee condemned Biden's remarks.

"Using a rape analogy to describe one's political opponents is inexcusable & beneath the office of the Vice President," RNC Chairman Reince Priebus tweeted.

Biden's comments came on the same day that President Obama signed another stopgap measure to keep the government running for another three weeks. The measure cuts $6 billion in spending – on top of the $4 billion in cuts from a two-week extension passed earlier this month -- and buys the White House and congressional leaders more time to negotiate a larger bill to cover the daily operations of the government through the end of September.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-strategy-blaming-rape-victims/#ixzz1vnmc3tWj
 

Bolt

FJB
Not even having a budget is pretty telling not to mention the number of times they have had to raise the debt ceiling and probably will have to do so again.

Why even bother with a budget? It's meaningless and Congress never adheres to it. They will just keep raising the debt ceiling and spending. Rinse and repeat until there is finally no more money or the printing presses break from overheating.
 

undead

Veteran Member
Take it from a liberal jackass that a loss of revenue (e.g., tax cut) counts as spending by the government.

liberals are truly little cockroaches
 
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