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A possible ninth planet may be the reason for a tilt in our solar system
The Guardian
Alan Yuhas in San Francisco
3 hrs ago
Astronomers presented new research on the possibility of a gigantic, unseen planet beyond Neptune on Wednesday, saying the hypothetical world may have set the solar system at a tilt.
Researchers first suggested a massive ninth planet in January, saying that although this putative world would be about 10 times the size of Earth, it could have escaped a telescope’s notice because of its extreme distance from the sun. One year on this planet, according to their calculations, would last 17,000 years on Earth, and it would travel as far away as 93bn miles from the sun, where it would take light a week to arrive.
On Wednesday, astronomers at the California Institute of Technology presented their new evidence in Pasadena, California, at the annual meeting of planetary scientists of the American Astronomical Society.
“The search for planet nine,” Caltech astronomer Mike Brown said, “is as much about understanding the effects of planet nine on the solar system, the physics of planet nine, as it is about understanding where it is.”
Brown said that his team had calculated how a hypothetical planet could be responsible for making the sun appear to tilt at an angle. Though the eight planets orbit in an essentially flat plane around the sun, the plane itself rotates at nearly a six-degree angle, making it look like the sun itself is angled. A giant planet with a strange orbit, about 30 degrees off the other planets’ plane, could account for that wobble, the scientists suggested.
“Because Planet Nine is so massive and has an orbit tilted compared to the other planets,” said Elizabeth Bailey, the study’s author, “the solar system has no choice but to slowly twist out of alignment.
“It’s such a deep-rooted mystery and so difficult to explain that people just don’t talk about it,” said Brown. “If you ask yourself where the sun is tilted in real life there’s where we predict it should be,” he added, noting that the calculations of mass and orbital angle had results of six degrees.
“The amazing thing is for these very standard [observations],” Brown said, “it tilts it nearly exactly correctly.
“At this stage we have so many lines of evidence that there’s a massive planet out there,” he added, “that if there’s not a massive planet out there it has to be that there was one there yesterday and disappeared.”
Brown suggested that scientists may be able to locate the planet, if it exists, in the next few years, and that his team’s work would be published in an upcoming issue of the Astrophysical Journal.
Another team of researchers, led by the University of Arizona’s Renu Malhotra, also shared new research suggesting a hypothetical planet – though they cautioned that it was by no means proof of the world.
They found that the four objects with the longest known orbits in the Kuiper Belt, the solar system’s distant ring of ancient rocks and dwarf planets, would be most easily explained by a mammoth new planet.
These “extreme” Kuiper Belt objects, which have elongated orbits that come very close to and stray very far from the sun, would probably not be affected by the large planets of the solar system, as the dwarf planet Pluto is affected by Neptune, for instance. The astronomers noticed that these four objects have “very simple orbital ratios”, said Malhotra, suggesting “they are in resonances with an unseen massive planet”.
The research narrows down the range where a hypothetical planet could be, Malhotra said, and fit with prior calculations about six Kuiper Belt objects whose orbits appear to be in small ratios with a massive planet.
“Our paper provides more specific estimates for the mass and orbit that this planet would have, and, more importantly, constraints on its current position within its orbit,” Malhotra said.
Brown and Malhotra both conceded that there are reasons to be skeptical, despite the former’s optimism for discovery. “There are observational biases all over the Kuiper Belt,” Brown said. “We always worry about them. we don’t think they’re affecting results.”
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A possible ninth planet may be the reason for a tilt in our solar system
The Guardian
Alan Yuhas in San Francisco
3 hrs ago
Astronomers presented new research on the possibility of a gigantic, unseen planet beyond Neptune on Wednesday, saying the hypothetical world may have set the solar system at a tilt.
Researchers first suggested a massive ninth planet in January, saying that although this putative world would be about 10 times the size of Earth, it could have escaped a telescope’s notice because of its extreme distance from the sun. One year on this planet, according to their calculations, would last 17,000 years on Earth, and it would travel as far away as 93bn miles from the sun, where it would take light a week to arrive.
On Wednesday, astronomers at the California Institute of Technology presented their new evidence in Pasadena, California, at the annual meeting of planetary scientists of the American Astronomical Society.
“The search for planet nine,” Caltech astronomer Mike Brown said, “is as much about understanding the effects of planet nine on the solar system, the physics of planet nine, as it is about understanding where it is.”
Brown said that his team had calculated how a hypothetical planet could be responsible for making the sun appear to tilt at an angle. Though the eight planets orbit in an essentially flat plane around the sun, the plane itself rotates at nearly a six-degree angle, making it look like the sun itself is angled. A giant planet with a strange orbit, about 30 degrees off the other planets’ plane, could account for that wobble, the scientists suggested.
“Because Planet Nine is so massive and has an orbit tilted compared to the other planets,” said Elizabeth Bailey, the study’s author, “the solar system has no choice but to slowly twist out of alignment.
“It’s such a deep-rooted mystery and so difficult to explain that people just don’t talk about it,” said Brown. “If you ask yourself where the sun is tilted in real life there’s where we predict it should be,” he added, noting that the calculations of mass and orbital angle had results of six degrees.
“The amazing thing is for these very standard [observations],” Brown said, “it tilts it nearly exactly correctly.
“At this stage we have so many lines of evidence that there’s a massive planet out there,” he added, “that if there’s not a massive planet out there it has to be that there was one there yesterday and disappeared.”
Brown suggested that scientists may be able to locate the planet, if it exists, in the next few years, and that his team’s work would be published in an upcoming issue of the Astrophysical Journal.
Another team of researchers, led by the University of Arizona’s Renu Malhotra, also shared new research suggesting a hypothetical planet – though they cautioned that it was by no means proof of the world.
They found that the four objects with the longest known orbits in the Kuiper Belt, the solar system’s distant ring of ancient rocks and dwarf planets, would be most easily explained by a mammoth new planet.
These “extreme” Kuiper Belt objects, which have elongated orbits that come very close to and stray very far from the sun, would probably not be affected by the large planets of the solar system, as the dwarf planet Pluto is affected by Neptune, for instance. The astronomers noticed that these four objects have “very simple orbital ratios”, said Malhotra, suggesting “they are in resonances with an unseen massive planet”.
The research narrows down the range where a hypothetical planet could be, Malhotra said, and fit with prior calculations about six Kuiper Belt objects whose orbits appear to be in small ratios with a massive planet.
“Our paper provides more specific estimates for the mass and orbit that this planet would have, and, more importantly, constraints on its current position within its orbit,” Malhotra said.
Brown and Malhotra both conceded that there are reasons to be skeptical, despite the former’s optimism for discovery. “There are observational biases all over the Kuiper Belt,” Brown said. “We always worry about them. we don’t think they’re affecting results.”
) You got your Sednoids, your Kuiper Belt Objects other than Pluto and its companions, your planetesimals, plutoids and plutinos. Way, way out there...you got your Oort Cloud objects. You got your Small Solar System Bodies, which is apparently some kind of catch-all classification for the bits of floating rock that don't neatly fit into any of the other categories. (Seems strange to me that Pluto isn't a planet anymore, but it has lent its name to two new classes of these celestial objects.)
By the way, Eris is just a few kilometers smaller than Pluto (1,163 vs. 1,187 -- for awhile there I think they thought Eris was BIGGER than Pluto), and I think that played a part in prompting the change to the definition of what a planet is. Because if Pluto is a planet, then Eris being so very similar would ALSO have to be a planet.