USA A plan to house L.A.'s homeless residents could transform parking lots across the city

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A plan to house L.A.'s homeless residents could transform parking lots across the city

By DOUG SMITH
FEB 09, 2018 | 3:00 AM

In the decades following World War II, when the suburbs were young and the car was king, Los Angeles went on a land-buying spree.

The city bought parcels in every size and shape, demolished any buildings on them and opened parking lots to serve emerging commercial districts.

By the 1970s the buying had mostly stopped, and today these 119 public lots blend into the urban quilt all but indistinguishable from their free-market competitors.

But now the city is cultivating plans that could transform much of that land again, this time from asphalt to multistory apartment buildings to house chronically homeless people.

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Plans are already underway to develop housing on large public lots in Venice and Hollywood, while officials review the rest to determine which could support housing.

Advocates of the conversion see it as more than a solution to homelessness.

"These opportunities ought to be evaluated in terms of the next vision of what the city ought to be," said Eric Moss, the architect on a project that would squeeze 140 units onto the Venice parking lot, along with a parking structure to preserve all the spaces there now. "Those lots belong to a completely different history and a completely different time."

But how many of them ultimately prove viable will depend on many unknowns, among them the reaction of council offices and neighborhood groups and the ingenuity of architects in making the most of parcels that in many cases are small, oddly shaped and represent a prized resource.

"I think we're going backwards," Lincoln Heights real estate broker Steven Kasten said about a proposal to build on lots there. "Merchants are not going to have parking. People are going to move out. It's going to hurt business."

The idea of converting public parking to housing has been around for decades in L.A. but has gained little traction. In the 1980s, Mayor Tom Bradley proposed leasing rights to developers to build multifamily housing, but there was no follow-up.

Northeast-area Councilman Gil Cedillo revived the idea in 2008 with a plan to build 80 units on three city lots near the Gold Line in Highland Park.

That plan fell into limbo after a neighborhood group, Friends of Highland Park, sued, alleging the environmental review approved by the city was inadequate. A trial court's ruling for the city was overturned on appeal. The city chose not to appeal further, and the project remains stalled.

The new parking lot review grew out of an urgency to implement Proposition HHH, the $1.2-billion bond measure approved by the voters to help fund the construction of 1,000 permanent supportive housing units each year.

With taxpayer funds now committed, a new obstacle emerged. The scarcity of suitable land in the city's highly competitive real estate market could add years to the start-up time for new projects.

Mayor Eric Garcetti and the City Council have promised the city would speed up construction by providing land from its portfolio of surplus property.

After sifting through more than 500 prospects, the City Administrative Office has narrowed the field to 129 sites that are potentially large enough and in suitable zones. All but 10 are public parking lots.

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The city’s Housing and Community Investment Department is also planning to offer affordable housing developers 24 city-owned lots, most acquired from the Community Redevelopment Agency when it was dissolved by the state in 2012.

Combined, the properties could support thousands of new units. Some would go to low-income renters, whether they are homeless or not. But even if only half the units were set aside for homeless people, that would make up a substantial boost to the 10-year building goal.

But the hope that using city properties would dramatically speed the pace of construction is being tested by the realities of city procedures.

Yolanda Chavez, an assistant city administrative officer, said the office is reviewing lots a few at a time and will confer with the Department of Transportation to determine their suitability and the number of spaces that need to be preserved.

Then a motion from the City Council office is required to proceed with a planning report. After that the lot can be offered for bidding.

Chavez said she hopes to offer several properties for proposals in February and then a few more twice a year.

Because the process incurs costs, such as appraisal fees, Chavez said she requires a show of support from a City Council member in the form of a motion before she will begin it.

Though there are city parking lots in almost every council district, only a handful of motions have been introduced so far.

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A Times survey of dozens of lots showed challenges unique to each.

The smallest, with only seven spaces on West Washington Boulevard in Mid-City, is among a few that may simply be too small for multistory buildings. The largest is unlikely to be replaced by housing. It is a structure with more than 3,000 spaces built into the Dolby Theatre complex in Hollywood, and generates $12 million a year in revenue.

Most are on side streets a block from major suburban boulevards and serve one- or two-story commercial buildings.

Architects will have to design three- to five-story buildings that blend with both the businesses and with adjoining residential neighborhoods.

About two-thirds of the lots are metered and bring revenue to the city.

The amount of parking to be replaced would have to be decided case by case.

Because many of the lots are in clusters, there are opportunities for creative planning. Replacement parking could be built on one lot, for example, with housing on other ones nearby.

In almost every case, the scale of the project would change the character of a neighborhood, potentially bringing new life to aging business districts, but almost certainly stirring opposition in some. The strategy is getting its first test in Venice.

Parking Lot 731, spanning the Grand Canal, provides 188 spaces in a parking-tight district where bohemian businesses, struggling artists and owners of multimillion-dollar homes mix only two blocks from the beach. It pulls in more than $1 million a year for the city.

Two nonprofits, Venice Community Housing and Hollywood Community Housing Corp., have been selected to develop the lot, with plans for 140 housing units in two buildings on either side of the historic canal.

The project is required to preserve all the public parking, with an additional 143 spaces for the tenants and retail, said Venice Community Housing executive director Becky Dennison.

Preliminary designs by Eric Owen Moss Architects show the parking in two multistory structures encircled by the living spaces and retail — a configuration made possible by the size of the property, at 121,000 square feet one of the city's largest parking lots.

The plan has yet to be formally presented to the community, but preliminary plans released last year stirred opposition from some community groups.

Moss said capturing the spirit of Venice is his challenge as he is "working carefully within a height limit, working carefully within a unit count, reconstitution of the canal, public sense of obligation to retail and art walks. We're fitting all of those intelligently onto the site."

Safran & Associates, a for-profit developer, has been selected to develop affordable housing on a lot on Wilcox Avenue in Hollywood, across the street from the high-end Dream Hollywood hotel.

Tyler Monroe, Safran's vice president for development, said plans for the 45,000-square-foot lot are not set but will preserve the existing 149 spaces.

Because they are so large, the Venice and Hollywood lots are among the least challenging for designers.

Across the city, seven smallish lots scattered around North Broadway in Lincoln Heights may set the tone for how the program will unfold in other aging commercial centers, including Echo Park, Van Nuys, Reseda, Canoga Park and Sawtelle.

The lots are not financial assets for the city. Three offer free parking, and the others generate only hundreds of dollars a year per space, compared with thousands for more-productive lots.

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Collectively they provide a large building space, but it is cut into inconveniently small pieces. The smallest is only 10,000 square feet.

Cedillo, the area's councilman, has proposed to offer five of the seven lots for housing. But community reaction could be critical.

At a January meeting of the Lincoln Heights Neighborhood Council, a field deputy for Cedillo faced more than 100 residents who were upset that two developers — WORKS, a northeast L.A. nonprofit, and the for-profit GTM Holdings — were given an exclusive negotiating agreement to build on the lots without public input.

The deputy, Jose Rodriguez, told the residents they would be able to work with the developer to design the plan.

Channa Grace, the president and chief executive of WORKS, said she expects the project to include senior housing and other affordable housing and some replacement parking, in addition to permanent supportive housing for homeless people.

"We're looking to have a robust outreach and get input from the community," Grace said."Take what we find and go out into the community. Talk to folks, see what they're thinking."

Some who attended the neighborhood council meeting expected those talks to be tough.

"There is no warmth for this project right now from this community," said Lincoln Heights resident and political blogger Scott Johnson.

doug.smith@latimes.com

Twitter: @LATDoug

Comments 185
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
Put your ghettos up on stilts. Got ghettos, got parking lots. Win/win. WooHoo!
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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So... what, exactly is a "supportive housing unit"? Is that going to be some sort of hybrid apartment building/group home? With supervision, and rules against drugs and alcohol?

Because if they try that, they might as well save their money. Sure, there are *some* homeless who are simply not able to afford housing, especially in California's insanely overpriced housing market. Some of them are employed and aren't mentally ill, too.

But it's a tiny minority. And if they think they're going to be able to convince the alkies and druggies to abide by rules, or confiscate a large portion of their SSI checks for rent and utilities, when these people are used to using almost every penny they get for their drug of choice... well, good luck with that!

I really do sympathize with these people. Many simply don't fit in modern society, and they have no desire TO fit. Because we no longer have any more frontiers, they can't just move west to live or die on their own merits... but at least in freedom. Heck, even if they could have a little piece of land, code enforcement and all the rest would harass them to death. No such thing (in THAT state anyway, and in darned few others these days) as being allowed to put up a little shack, and an outhouse and live in as much squalor (or even keep the place spic and span... doesnt matter) as they want. Nope... gotta be hooked up to the sewer (forget septic tanks in a lot of places), city water (not having running water means you aren't getting a occupancy permit, even if thousands of people in Alaska and other wild places do just fine hauling their water from springs or rivers).

Can't grow a garden in your front yard in some places. The rules and regulations just keep getting more and more onerous, even in very rural areas.

And, to be honest, an awful lot of these folks wouldn't survive 6 months outside that benevolent Southern California climate, and away from the soup kitchens, food pantries and liquor stores or their drug dealers.

This is just going to be one more California boondoggle and failure.

Summerthyme
 

Martinhouse

Deceased
I was just going to say that no one will want to live in those new buildings if they aren't by food missions, pawn shops and good panhandling corners.
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
And how will these new ghettos affect the house values and quality of life in the neighborhoods surrounding them? Duh...
 

vessie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Put your ghettos up on stilts. Got ghettos, got parking lots. Win/win. WooHoo!

Not a good idea with the stilts.

Then they would poop and pee all over the place and it'd end up on the cars.

Worse than seagulls, it'd be like being at the Monkey House at Woodland Park Zoo in Seattle. V
 

vessie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
That big map in the Op with all the 'brown dots' reminds me of the guy that posted a map of the poo smears all over his condo from his Roomba on Facebook.

He went to bed all smug, knowing he'd wake up to a clean house but forgot about his little pug who pooped that night whilst the house slept.

The Roomba picked up, dragged and smeared the poop All over the house.

Homeless encampments up here in Seattle are famous for their denizens who 'don't give a shit where they shit' so we have poop on the sidewalks.

Maybe LA should take a little lesson from San Diego's Hepatitis outbreak from all of the 'pink hairless monkey' poop on their sidewalks. V
 

vessie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Well, Bless Your Heart Eric Moss, the architect on a project, squeezing 140 units onto a Venice parking lot is going to generate A Lot Of Poop.

Whatch'a gonna do then Eric? V
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
Not a good idea with the stilts. Then they would poop and pee all over the place and it'd end up on the cars. Worse than seagulls, it'd be like being at the Monkey House at Woodland Park Zoo in Seattle. V

Well yeah, I said it in a spirit of fun more than the somber recommendation of someone who would be responsible for the results. :)
 

vessie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Well yeah, I said it in a spirit of fun more than the somber recommendation of someone who would be responsible for the results. :)

I know you did BW!

Your post just gave me the most amazingly funny vision though! Lol! V
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
LA is between a rock and a hard place; there is a good percentage of that population that Summertyme is correct about and this won't really work well for them; but there is an increasing number of people who are just like you and I; some of whom are even employed, that simply are out of options.

THOSE people do really well in subsidized housing, sometimes they even have SSD or other small amounts of money that come it; it just won't pay a "2 months plus 1 months rent" on a cracker box studio apartment ANYWHERE in California much less in LA these days.

The problem is that the problem population tends to be the people with the drug, alcohol and often mental health issues that are "too out-there" to deal with even simple rules like "don't drink at home" or "no drugs on the property."

I saw this when I worked with the homeless in SF in the early 1990's; even the homeless tended to know who was whom; they would tell us if a young family was simply stranded by their car breaking down and being broke after driving up from Alabama with their kids - they would tell us "they aren't like us, they don't belong here."

These were also the easiest people to help if they had kids; if they didn't there often were few programs for them and sometimes they eventually ended up with the rest of the folks using drugs or other things because their lives were so painful and seem to be going nowhere.

If LA can even get the middle-aged women living in their cars (whose only issue is no support); the teenager tear aways dropped by the foster system (the ones who haven't yet become too hardened to life on the streets), the veterans (that even with drug/alcohol issues can sometimes follow the rules and live best in a semi-controlled environment) and even ten percent of the others who are willing to try - OFF the streets that will be progress.

Ultimately they have to do something, even if it is designated areas as Depression Era shanty towns that are outside of town - with porta potties and well pumps because 50,000 people going to the bathroom and living on city streets is a city within a city and soon everyone will start to become ill etc.

Even if every one of those people were "picked up" and either thrown out of town or thrown into a camp tomorrow; both LA and SF have the issue that all 50,000 will soon be replaced and the situation just as bad in less than a year or two.

The reason is even mental patients (who should be in a sheltered place but there just are not any these days except prisons) know the difference between homeless in a Michigan Winter and homeless at Yuletide in LA or even San Francisco (which is colder but still survivable).

I spent one winter night in a homeless camp in SF (not because I was homeless) so it is not fun but it is survivable with a good tent and sleeping bag.

For anyone who says "you have been away too long you don't understand" I am not saying this for sympathy but I am dealing with this in my family RIGHT NOW; my sister may be evicted on Wedesday and has no where to go; her ex will take her young daughter in but not her.

Our parents are dead, her biolobical family is also dead (she's adopted) and the family I married into doesn't have the money for full support either; there are other issues (there always are) but mainly she has become very ill, lost her job and the paperwork for SSD hasn't even really started yet.

At least she is in a small town where people know her and my family is hoping she can find someone there that can help; at least I'm not looking at flying to California to try and see about the nightmare of trying to get guardianship and then residency in Ireland for my neice (though I would if I have to).

And no, I have no idea why she can't get AFDC and housing except she can't work right now (so doesn't qualify for the reviesed program) and there probably is no housing that would take it anyway.

I am not posting this for sympathy or suggestions, just saying I think I do have a clue of how some people fall into this situation and then can't dig themselves out; someone like my sister probably would do very well in a somewhat managed housing situation; where the rent went to the provider directly and someone made sure she didn't need to be in the hospital and that her daughter was going to school etc.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
MS I'm sure my sister would be grateful for such a trailer through the cost of bringing plumbing, septic tanks and water to all those units (along with elevators, garbage pick up etc) might make them nearly as expensive as cheap apartments.

But it isn't a bad idea, and much better than a tent...
 

Terriannie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I don't see that working at all.

From what I've observed, the homeless fill along the street so they can be in contact with the drug dealers. In a tent on a parking lot, they would have to leave in order to "work" and they won't do that because their stuff will be wrecked or stolen the moment they leave.

The only workable solution would be that trailer tower and that would be a nightmare to get passed, built and maintained.
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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Melodi my younger sister is also homeless and has been sleeping in her car for months. She recently got approved for SSD and managed to buy an RV which she has been working on renovating to live in. But now she is saving for a truck to pull it with so she can get it out of storage.
Granted she is a little more self sufficient than most middle aged homeless women.
She would never live in one of those trailers although lots of people would be grateful for any decent shelter.
 

dero50

Veteran Member
The new Super Dome answer to the problem like New Orleans came up with......didn't end well. They trashed it. How do the landowners feel???
 
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