CORONA A major new study shows that masks don't stop the spread of COVID. Will the mandaters apologize?

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A major new study shows that masks don't stop the spread of COVID. Will the mandaters apologize?​

Opinion by Timothy P. Carney • Thursday

The COVID pandemic is in the rearview mirror. We have plenty of data about it, including studies telling us how well our countermeasures worked.

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A dozen scientists from around the world conducted a massive metastudy of our efforts to fight COVID, as well as similar efforts to fight the flu, and they published the results in the Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews.

The authors examined 78 different studies on the efficacy of different mitigation efforts such as masking, distancing, screening, quarantining, and hand-washing. How did these interventions affect the spread of the flu, COVID, or similar viruses?

The studies included were diverse. They covered epidemics as well as periods of low transmission. They covered rich countries and poor countries, suburban schools and inner-city neighborhoods, hospitals and villages.

Most important was what they had in common: They were all randomized controlled trials or at least cluster-RCTs. These are the gold standard for studies because they have the greatest chance of avoiding confounding factors. Non-randomized, non-controlled trials — for example, observational studies — can be compromised if, say, people become more likely to wear masks at times or places that already have higher rates of spread, or if people who wore masks were also more fastidious hand-washers.

So, what did the studies find?

For starters, hand-washing was effective in stopping the spread of these illnesses. That’s not surprising.

But here’s the most eye-opening finding: “Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of influenza‐like illness/COVID‐19-like illness compared to not wearing masks.” In other words, masks didn't do much — if anything.

It’s possible that a community could drive down spread if everyone wore well-fitted high-quality masks such as N-95s or respirators, but there is no conclusive evidence that it does.

With that in mind, think back to late 2020 to mid-2022, when mayors, governors, school districts, and even the U.S. Department of Transportation and Joe Biden were forcing masks on unwilling people — especially children — even when viral transmission was very low.

Early on, when public-health officials told us to wear masks, they were simply playing it safe. But as time went on, even as the efficacy of masks became more doubtful, the officials switched from asking to mandating.

They went beyond mandating, of course, and attacked everyone who resisted their mandates as selfish grandma-killers. The mayors and county executives who required masks knew they didn’t work, obviously, because these same mayors and county executives personally refused to wear these masks in exactly the situations where they were mandating the masks.

What happened in the past happened in the past. The mask mandaters in 2020 had an excuse. The mandaters in 2023 don’t. Today, they should all personally and publicly fess up and explain why they made the mistakes they did.

If the mask mandaters don’t explain the source of their error, they are immolating whatever authority and credibility they have left.

 

Kris Gandillon

The Other Curmudgeon
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My brother, worked in healthcare since the ‘80s, called BS on the whole mask thing when it first started. No way was the general public going to even begin to receive any benefit from the crappy masks, cutesy masks and homemade masks. No proper fitment or sealing. Pulling them up and down to eat, etc.
 

Pinecone

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I'm going to copy that article, and every single time I go into a medical facility, I'm going to drop several on the tables and give one to the receptionist. Gotta go get more paper first! Probably won't make a bit of difference, but it'll make me feel like I'm starting an insurrection! LOL
 

gillmanNSF

Veteran Member
My brother, worked in healthcare since the ‘80s, called BS on the whole mask thing when it first started. No way was the general public going to even begin to receive any benefit from the crappy masks, cutesy masks and homemade masks. No proper fitment or sealing. Pulling them up and down to eat, etc.
The biotech I work at, where most people have a science background, touted cloth masks in 2020 before mandating surgical masks while on site. A power point slide they showed at one of the company-wide meetings during the pandemic showed the relative sizes of dust, smoke particles, bacteria, surgical masks pore size and viruses in that order, yet no one said anything about the virus size being much smaller than the mask pore size. I mentioned that to several coworkers and the logic was that it at least it provided some protection. Kind of like the logic when medical professionals push the flu vaccine, using previous years' influenza variants against the current year's flu, saying well at least it provides some protection. That's not scientific. That's voodoo pseudoscience. Fear suppresses reason even among the highly educated. Even this week, at our last company meeting the mask mandate was brought up and they just defer to Cal-OSHA requirements, even though many other local companies have dropped the mask mandate.

Masks can be off at work when actively eating/drinking in designated areas only and sitting 6 ft. away from some else. Masks not required out of doors unless within 6 feet of someone else. Work is the only place I wear a mask, even the dentist doesn't require one any more. Hospitals here in San Francisco still do. I keep mentioning to anyone that will listen, that doctors and nurses wear surgical masks in operating rooms to prevent bacterial contamination, they're not meant for virus protection as they are much smaller in size than the mask pore size. Masks make people feel safer, it's an emotional response not a rational one.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Masks were a joke from the get-go. Anybody who has ever needed to wear them for real world hazards was scratching their heads. These days at least 50% of the population isn't mentally or physically fit enough to correctly, effectively wear even an N-95, and therefore would wash out of a fit test and physician's approval for a job that required one.

Apology? For wearing at bare minimum a single-ply nylon gaiter? Get over it.
 

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
I'm going to copy that article, and every single time I go into a medical facility, I'm going to drop several on the tables and give one to the receptionist. Gotta go get more paper first! Probably won't make a bit of difference, but it'll make me feel like I'm starting an insurrection! LOL

Love it! I am going to be a copycat! But I will be intentionally driving over to some!
 

Codeno

Veteran Member
My brother, worked in healthcare since the ‘80s, called BS on the whole mask thing when it first started. No way was the general public going to even begin to receive any benefit from the crappy masks, cutesy masks and homemade masks. No proper fitment or sealing. Pulling them up and down to eat, etc.

My "go to" mask for quite awhile was a homemade cloth thing that I bought at a garage sale, black body with white Chinese writing all over it. I think the point went right over most peoples heads, and the mask didn't protect me from anything other than the mask nazis.

Bold type mine, above.
 

Texas Writer

Veteran Member
In Oregon, you STILL have to wear a mask in medical facilities, unless you are in a bed. Bastards. Really hard on the medical staff and patient families.
Gonna have hand surgery this week. Went to hospital Friday for prepping. Big sign on entry said “Masks required.” Went in where about 12 waited. Not a mask in sight except for employees.
 

Pinecone

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Gonna have hand surgery this week. Went to hospital Friday for prepping. Big sign on entry said “Masks required.” Went in where about 12 waited. Not a mask in sight except for employees.
Hope your hand surgery goes well!

Here in Oregon, the staff demands masks. They will kick you out. It's ridiculous. I'm glad there's free states to escape to if and when we're able.
 

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
Gonna have hand surgery this week. Went to hospital Friday for prepping. Big sign on entry said “Masks required.” Went in where about 12 waited. Not a mask in sight except for employees.

Prayers for your surgery to go really well and for quick healing.
 
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