RACE WAR A Country Not Salvageable

Altura Ct.

Veteran Member
Posted on June 26, 2020
A Country Not Salvageable
Fred Reed, American Renaissance, June 24, 2020

What fun, what entertainment. And rare: One seldom sees the collapse of a landmark society in a rush of wondrous idiocy. Would I could sell tickets. Don’t look at it as a loss, but as a show, an unwanted but grand amusement.

The coup de grace in our ripening decadence is the current uprising purportedly, though implausibly, over racism. But never mind. The causes don’t matter. The deal is done.

Still, it is interesting to recognize that the protesters are, perhaps deliberately, confusing the incapacity of blacks with systemic racism. In truth, America has made the greatest effort ever essayed by one race to uplift another. Reflect: In 1954 an entirely white Supreme Court unanimously ended segregation. Later it found the use of IQ tests by employers illegal because blacks scored poorly, then found “affirmative action,” racial discrimination against whites, legal (hardly oppression of blacks, this). An overwhelmingly white Congress passed the Civil Rights Act in 1964, the Voting Rights Act the next year. A white President sent troops to Little Rock to enforce desegregation. There has been an enormous flow of charity to blacks: Section Eight Housing, AFDC, Head Start, hiring quotas, set-asides, sharply lowered standards in police and fire departments. We now have free breakfasts for black children, then free lunches, in addition to outright welfare. In aggregate they resemble a distributed guaranteed basic income. Which is interesting.

These measures sprang from the best of intentions. Most I think should continue. I for one do not want to evict blacks from public housing or have their children go hungry. Yet none of these programs has had its desired effect. The crucial academic gap has not closed, crime remains horribly high, illegitimacy verges on universal. This is a great shame. Blacks are decent enough people, likable if they don’t hate you, and phenomenally talented. But it hasn’t worked.

Nothing has worked. There is no indication that anything will. The great black cities are in something approaching custodial care.
You cannot solve a problem without knowing what it is. This we dare not know. Democracies, however approximate, cannot deal with chronically underperforming minorities.

They cannot even try. Anything that might help is politically impossible, and anything politically possible won’t help.
So, after the riots:

Social division will worsen after the riots. Racial hostility from blacks will not decrease because their conditions will not change. The rioters are getting their way now, and rule, but at the price of sowing hatred. At best we will have many decades of ugly rancor. At worst, we are winding the spring for another outburst.

Multiculturalism has not worked, quite apart from race, and will not. White Americans are not one people. The poor communications and bad roads that once allowed them to live almost separately no longer exist. In its writ-large form, trying to force West Virginia to accept the culture of Massachusetts will produce only anger.

The likelihood of amity between races is proportional to their agreement on values important to them. For example, the Chinese share (what once were) the white values of study, work, courtesy, and obedience to the law. That they eat with chopsticks and celebrate New Year on the wrong day doesn’t matter.

However, again for example, a culture that believes in female genital mutilation and utter subjection of women cannot live amicably with a culture that abhors these things. Black ghetto culture and white are immiscible in so many fundamental values that they will not live well together.

Some cultures can assimilate, for example East Asian and American white, Latino and American white. But, in addition to sharply different cultures, too many blacks live in sprawling, racially isolated urban centers with almost no contact with the outside world other than television.

Censorship will intensify, not just of communications and office chitchat but of books. Tom Sawyer will be pulled from bookshelves or — Amazon being the continental shelf — or bowderlized to remove the ****** Jim and Injun Joe The ****** of the Narcissus may survive because none of the blacks and few of the whites will ever have heard of Conrad. At least for the foreseeable future, firings for anything imaginably redolent of racism–saying “All lives matter,” for example–will be snatched at in a mixture of passive aggression and schadenfreude to result in firings. This is unlikely to have a happy ending.

Schooling: Watching great universities become sandboxes for unpleasantly righteous dimwitted brats galls, or does if one lets it. I don’t. Most of the protesters seem recently to have erupted from the drains of an educational system that has been in sharp decline for decades They, including the intelligent among them, appear historically not just ignorant but carefully misinformed, culturally pathetic, and intellectually laughable. (For example, a protestress interviewed by a British reporter as to what she thought of Churchill said she couldn’t really say because she hadn’t met him. How many in BLM can spell “Confederacy”? A statue of Ulysses Grant was pulled down in the belief that he was a Confederate general. May God preserve us.)

The, uh, redaction of culture will not stop with books. Classical music is too white, the sciences too white, mathematics a tool of oppression (meaning that blacks cannot understand it) and so on. We have created a nation of pampered and imbecile peasants.

Schooling will continue its plummet. Science departments probably will not be abolished. However, because they are too white, schools will recruit hopelessly unqualified black students and professors, standards will fall yet more, and mathematics will be played down even in astrophysics (this is being done). Extirpating racism will replace scholarship, already degraded by the retirement or death of those professors who knew what education meant. This will inevitably result in lowered American technological competitiveness and prosperity. There is no hope of preventing this.

The replacement of learned professors by aging detritus from the Sixties antagonistic to scholarship is not surprising. America has had strong anti-intellectual undercurrent since its inception. The degradation will not be noticed by the young as they have never lived in a world different from their own, with Harry Potter and Toni Morrison thought to be literature. A liberal education was once the mark of the cultivated, being deep in languages, literature, philosophy, the sciences, history, mathematics,. Universities once had, at least among the better students, a love of open minded curiosity, thought, and debate. No more. Future historians will notice the shift, but those within it will not. We are left with a nation of morons who will not know they are morons.

This too cannot be prevented. Jejune herdthink is now warmly espoused throughout the academy with children in grade school being primed for it.

The most — I dare not say “entertaining” for fear of lynching, but, well, perhaps “interesting” reforms will be those of the police, whether abolition, defunding to shift money to youth outreach and rehab (which don’t work) or replacement of police by warm and caring adults, will result in increased crime. We need not concern ourselves with whether and to what extent the police have been culpable in which cases. The changes will come anyway.

An intriguing question is what the nonviolent, non-racist, warm and fuzzy pseudopolice will do when they encounter violent criminals. Counsel them on social justice? I would love to watch.

Our system of governments has proved itself weak, feckless, and unable to govern. The chaotic response to the coronavirus is a prime example, there being no national policy and the states being told to do as they see fit. The other major example was the inability or unwillingness to prevent looting and arson.The widespread destruction was unopposed, protected by the media, and celebrated by the many corporations that have fallen over themselves to truckle to the unwashed and to give them money. If our rampaging anthropoids can loot once, there is no reason to think they cannot do it again.

Many cities are routinely out of control, with seven hundred homicides in Chicago and three hundred in Baltimore every year. Increasingly criminals are released without bail and small crimes, such as evading subway fares, are ignored when committed by minorities. The hordes of derelicts grow, the New York subways become a homeless shelter. These are not problems seen in civilized countries. Which America no longer is, to the astonishment and amusement of the world.

Perhaps this was to be expected. The American practice of choosing its leaders every two, four, or six years by popularity contest worked, after a fashion anyway, in a sprawling continental country in which government had very little local influence. In a world far more complex, with little ability to plan when those in charge change with paralyzing rapidity, and everything intensely regulated by people unfamiliar with problems, results are poor. America’s competition with large countries having intelligently authoritarian and stable governance will prove a losing proposition proposition. The inevitable decline in standard of living, already well underwater, will promote unrest. Here we go again.

We have done what Marx couldn’t: Achieved communism, a true dictatorship of the proletariat, of a rabble jacquerie of much noise and no wit, the rule of the unfit. It is a rule only of the culture. The moneyed would not grant it power over anything else. Yet rule it is. We shall hear much of the authenticity of the illiterate, the purity of ghetto urges, the wisdom of the people, the need to lay low the pretensions of the mansion.

Yet the catastrophe has its consolations. It is amusing for those amused by the end of empires. The Soviet Union spoke of the dictatorship of the proletariat, but lived under the dictatorship of a gray aristocracy. America speaks of the rule of the people, a horrible idea, and seems to be getting there.

Think of it as the Cultural Revolution by suburban hobbyists. There are the same raging untermenschen, the same desire to destroy anything they do not know, or cannot understand, or be bothered to learn.

As a philosophic emollient one may reflect that all empires and civilizations must end, and ours is. America will remain as a place, a military bastion, a large if declining economic force. It will never again be, even by the low standards of humanity in such things, a relatively free and vigorous society. The world will not again credit its charades of moral leadership. The rot, the tens of thousands of derelict people living on the sidewalks, the looting and fire setting, the censorship, are now visible to the entire earth. Oh well. It was a good thing while it lasted.

 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
I have not been calling it the ZUSA for months now for nothing. America V.1.0 is D O N E. Already. Not there any more.

Don't look back, you aren't going that way. Look to what comes next. And what comes next will take a serious bloody slog to get to. IF we can. I do not expect to see it.

But that does not mean NO ONE will see it. These mountains I live among have been here for billions of years and other than continental drift they are not going anywhere. It will be necessary tp build a new America, America 2.0, and we can hope, a better one.
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
The United States is a dying empire. This is what you see in dying empires. They become soft, frightened, inward-looking, dependent on increasingly devalued currency, bread and circuses.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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The country will Balkanize.

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Publius

TB Fanatic
Many were saying the welfare thing was only going to make things worse and sure enough it did and who could have foreseen the black segment of the country devolve or degenerate like it did.
 

BassMan

Veteran Member
This surprised me from the OP: “Still, it is interesting to recognize that the protesters are, perhaps deliberately, confusing the incapacity of blacks with systemic racism. In truth, America has made the greatest effort ever essayed by one race to uplift another.

Fred is anything but racist.
 

All4liberty

Senior Member
While I agree that we are at the end of Constitution. The rights we have had will be gone. I still maintain the powers behind all of this do NOT care at all about the black people or the LGBT, or whatever letters it is. They are pawns.

I think the powers to be, once in control will begin to change the voting process to popular vote, along with other changes to the 1st and 2nd. The violence in Chicago will finally be looked at and extreme force will be used on large cities like Chicago. Homeless people will be, just disappeared. They may also use Islamic portions of Detroit to cause havoc through out the rest of the country.

I wouldn't be surprised once the useful pawns have created the need for a strong government presence that they do a false flag EMP. This could really reduce the population, especially large cities. Older populations will die out without medical services. It could be blamed on Islamic, or Christians to allow for the last cleansing.
Either way, the constitution is finished.
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
I told the man who sold us this place that I bought this hill to die on. He just nodded.

an interesting similarity . . . when I bought this it was the week after the OKC bombing . . . I told Raggedyann - when I come off that mountain it will be toes up . . .
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Padre Peter shares a history lesson and some Kipling ...
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When our government abandons us to the mob

God bless Tucker Carlson. He's one of the few voices of sanity remaining in the mainstream media. Last night he played a tape of a 911 call in Fredericksburg, Virginia, in which the dispatcher openly said to the caller that the cops couldn't help her. She was on her own, because the city had given permission for the rioters to do their thing. Hear it for yourself, and please take time to listen to the entire four-minute-or-so segment that I've chosen to include. (If you want to listen to the entire 15-minute report, so much the better, IMHO.)

(EDITED TO ADD: If there are playback problems, watch the video on YouTube, from 6m. 48sec. to 10m. 29sec.)




So what would you do, dear reader, if you found yourself in that woman's position? What would you do if rioters were running rampant through your neighborhood, with police simply driving past and doing nothing about it?

I know what I'd do. I know what I will do, if it comes to that. I have to accept that defending myself and my neighborhood will carry consequences with it, because the authorities in places like that are likely to paint me as the criminal for defending myself, rather than the rioters, looters and thugs who are attacking me and mine. That sort of discrimination goes with the territory, I'm sorry to say. When you take a stand, you make yourself a target for those who are spineless cowards seeking only to ingratiate themselves with the enemy and appease their hunger for violent retribution. However, that does not mean you should not take a stand.

I don't believe in appeasement. I'll let Rudyard Kipling explain why.

IT IS always a temptation to an armed and agile nation
To call upon a neighbour and to say: –
"We invaded you last night – we are quite prepared to fight,
Unless you pay us cash to go away."

And that is called asking for Dane-geld,
And the people who ask it explain
That you've only to pay 'em the Dane-geld
And then you'll get rid of the Dane!

It is always a temptation for a rich and lazy nation,
To puff and look important and to say: –
"Though we know we should defeat you,
we have not the time to meet you.
We will therefore pay you cash to go away."

And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
But we've proved it again and again,
That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
You never get rid of the Dane.

It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
For fear they should succumb and go astray;
So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,
You will find it better policy to say: --

"We never pay any-one Dane-geld,
No matter how trifling the cost;
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
And the nation that plays it is lost!"
That's what far too many liberal, progressive, left-wing local and state governments are doing right now. They're "paying the Dane-geld" by pandering to the mob, rather than cracking down on its criminal conduct. That can have only one future, as the mob grows more and more emboldened.

Frankly, I don't know how police in those areas can stand to look at themselves in the mirror every morning. They're abandoning the people they've sworn to protect and serve. By consenting to officially imposed inaction, they're making themselves part of the problem, not of the solution. If, in future, they come to be regarded as part of the oppressive system that needs to be resisted, they will have no-one but themselves to blame. My law enforcement friends and contacts are uniformly disgusted by what they're seeing and hearing. Many of them are discreetly passing information to those who can do something more active about defending their families, homes and neighborhoods, ensuring that they're not caught unawares. I'd say that's the least all cops should be doing right now - at least, all cops who take their oath of office seriously.

I told readers some weeks ago what was needed. I can only repeat that advice, even more strongly. You, and you alone, are your own and your family's and your neighborhood's first line of defense. Accept that responsibility, equip and train yourself to fulfil it, and stand ready to do so - because you can't rely on anyone else, even the police, to do it for you. It's that, or be a victim. The choice is yours.




Peter


Posted by Peter at 6/26/2020 04:35:00 AM 8 comments: Links to this post Labels: Current Events, Danger, Disgust, Grrr, Police, Political Correctness
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Many were saying the welfare thing was only going to make things worse and sure enough it did and who could have foreseen the black segment of the country devolve or degenerate like it did.


My parents (born in the early 1900's, married in the 1930's) saw it. I remember my Daddy being FURIOUS with LBJ over his "great society/war on poverty"--and my mama explaining to me that "the quickest way to RUIN somebody is to GIVE them things" and predicting that creating this entitlement society would ruin America.

I'm so glad they didn't live to see it....and sometimes wished they'd had me 20 years earlier so I wouldn't have, either...
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
Wish I could believe that - but I don't - not even for a second.



I believe we can save the country and We need to collectively start pushing back and it will come to blows, but the focus needs to be on the people funding and running the movement I.E the key shaker and movers otherwise it will fail.
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
Wish I could believe that - but I don't - not even for a second.

I ABSOLUTELY DO believe it - IF we will simply S T A N D - WE - you and I - that WE
this is every ABLE body's job
and EVERY BODY is able to do SOMETHING - even if its cook for the troops or reload magazines. there is NO PLACE to go from here - for you or I - but far more importantly - for your children and grandchildren.
 

Coulter

Veteran Member
I ABSOLUTELY DO believe it - IF we will simply S T A N D - WE - you and I - that WE
this is every ABLE body's job

and EVERY BODY is able to do SOMETHING - even if its cook for the troops or reload magazines. there is NO PLACE to go from here - for you or I - but far more importantly - for your children and grandchildren.

Not arguing any of that - but what percentage of your people base - is really AWAKE?
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
Not arguing any of that - but what percentage of your people base - is really AWAKE?

not as many today as there will be tomorrow . . . and shit burning down around your butt has a rude way of WAKING YOU UP. look at how much the tone of this discussion has chnged since the George Floyd/BLM/ANTIFA crap kicked off. the week before that 40% of this board thought - and unhesitatingly voiced - their opinion that "nothing like armed conflict or CW2 could or EVER WOULD" happen in America . . . "NOT IN OUR LIFE TIMES" was my absolute favorite . . . .

care to take that survey again TONIGHT?
 

Squib

Veteran Member
If the truths are self evident, and the Creator did endow us with unalienable rights...then the spirit of the country will live on. Perhaps another generation will realize these rights and gifts from God, and establish another United States...
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
If the truths are self evident, and the Creator did endow us with unalienable rights...then the spirit of the country will live on. Perhaps another generation will realize these rights and gifts from God, and establish another United States...
Point made. The creator also laid out the future for those with eyes to see. This is the end of the age. One need not hope for a new America, hope for truth to shine.

Guys, I respect most all here, for the tenacity and desire to save America. Frankly, one world government is coming. I pray America and the west is fighting such a thing right up till his return and the rest of the world is bowing to the beast and headed to the valley for the final battle.

Try and picture the slate wiped clean by 2028, no later. Work within this timeline and watch events unfold. Seven year plans guys n gals. God, guns n grab, guys n gals, the relevant five G network.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
hmm, we would all do well to remember that the entire generation, except for about a dozen or so, of the Jews who left Egypt in triumph ended up as decaying bones in the desert. We would also do well to remember that although Moses saw the promised land, he did not live in it. Finally, we must operate in the spirit, and not the flesh. It will take a miracle of the spirit for this vile and evil nation of ours, mostly led by pedophiles, rapists, assorted criminals, thieves, arrogant, mindless, greedy, sleazy pigs to not be destroyed. I will tell you all plainly. It may be that Americans survive, and individual, ethical Americans live through the shit storm now upon us, but the nation, in terms of the current political, economic and what we called "the establishment" back when I was 14 will not. I no longer pray for mercy, or even survival at this point for America. I pray for JUSTICE and the blood cry of the murdered babies, and the blood cry of all the innocents dead here in this corrupt and venal nation get their judgment. Ask not for mercy for America, she no longer deserves any, and do not have hope, for God has abandoned us; instead, ask for IRIS DEI to sweep the land like the angel of death that roamed Egypt and killed all the first born. We deserve nothing, and will be given nothing. But we might, just might create something out of the ashes that the younger generation, those few who are not Marxists or shallow, ignorant savages might, just might, hand over to their children and grandchildren.

ABANDON HOPE ALL YE AMERICANS FOR NONE WILL BE GIVEN TO YOU.
 

Old Gringo

Senior Member
I believe we can save the country and We need to collectively start pushing back and it will come to blows, but the focus needs to be on the people funding and running the movement I.E the key shaker and movers otherwise it will fail.

Re-Elect no one !

There is no value in professional politicians.

All it does is establish a ruling class.
 

Coulter

Veteran Member
not as many today as there will be tomorrow . . . and shit burning down around your butt has a rude way of WAKING YOU UP. look at how much the tone of this discussion has chnged since the George Floyd/BLM/ANTIFA crap kicked off. the week before that 40% of this board thought - and unhesitatingly voiced - their opinion that "nothing like armed conflict or CW2 could or EVER WOULD" happen in America . . . "NOT IN OUR LIFE TIMES" was my absolute favorite . . . .

care to take that survey again TONIGHT?

My question was - what percentage of your circle is REALLY AWAKE.

Not those on this forum.

And I will add what percent of them is under the age of 60 or even 50?
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
My question was - what percentage of your circle is REALLY AWAKE.

Not those on this forum.

And I will add what percent of them is under the age of 60 or even 50?

I'm answering your question out of courtesy despite the fact that its irrelevant to the issue at hand - the issue as originally discussed being simply the need for ALL OF US to stand in opposition as a united front:

"- IF we will simply S T A N D - WE - you and I - that WE
"this is every ABLE body's job"

"my people" aren't the ones who need motivation to stand - they are quite ready to do so. nor is it the vast majority on this board - its the rest of the crew on this sinking ship named AMERICA

the answer to your question is 100%. I have an extremely small circle - my immediate family and my MAG . . . the vast majority of family is mid 30's. the mag ranges in age from 41 - 70's. a 70 yr old with a battle rifle can kill a commie as easily as a 20 yr old. perhaps easier - because most old men are well through the give a damn stage at this point and view the act as a need borne out of warfare and/or self defense .

I mean no disrespect - I simply can't connect the query concerning "my circle" with the NEED to present a unified front - standing shoulder to shoulder from coast to coast. whats quoted below implies that more and more people are acknowledging that need - and going forward I believe those numbers will increase geometrically

not as many today as there will be tomorrow . . . and shit burning down around your butt has a rude way of WAKING YOU UP. look at how much the tone of this discussion has chnged since the George Floyd/BLM/ANTIFA crap kicked off. the week before that 40% of this board thought - and unhesitatingly voiced - their opinion that "nothing like armed conflict or CW2 could or EVER WOULD" happen in America . . . "NOT IN OUR LIFE TIMES" was my absolute favorite . . . .

care to take that survey again TONIGHT?

hope that's responsive and clarifies the original intent
 

Duncan

Contributing Member
We DO have a lifeboat ~ we're in Texas!
Sorry. I’m a lifelong Texan and I love my iconic state. But, sadly, with the techies from California, the ghettos of Dallas and Houston, and the hoards from across the Southern border, Texas will be blue in 2-3 election cycles.
 
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