BRKG 6.3 Oregon Quake off the Coast

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Sorry this is the UK Sun, I'm looking for other sources

A HUGE 6.3-magnitude earthquake struck off the coast of Oregon on America's West Coast today.

The quake, which registered 188 miles from the coastal city of Bandon, has sparked fears the so-called "Big One" could hit California any time now.


A 6.3-magnitude earthquake has struck off the coast of Oregon

It was recorded at a depth of around six miles but no tsunami warning has yet been issued, according to the United States Geological Survey (USGS).

The shake followed an intense week of seismic activity in which the deadly Ring of Fire was rocked by 70 quakes in just 48 hours.

A cluster of 16 "significant" movements, all above magnitude 4.5, hit on Monday following 53 that shook the region along the disaster zone on Sunday.

They rattled Indonesia, Bolivia, Japan and Fiji but didn't reach the western coast of the US, which sits on the horseshoe-shaped Ring of Fire fault line.

What is the Big One and when will it strike?

The Big One - or Cascadia -

is an earthquake which strikes along a 700-mile-long tectonic plate known as the Juan de Fuca around every 400 years.This stretch between northern California and British Columbia, in Canada, is known as the Cascadia subducation zone, where one tectonic plate moves underneath another.Previous quakes, all of which reportedly measured above a magnitude-8, are estimated to have hit in 600BC, 170BC, 400AD, 810AD and 1310AD.It last struck in 1700, when it sunk the stretch by as much as 20 metres, tjhough there are no written records of the natural disaster.The death toll from that magnitude-9 quake is unclear but it is understood to have unleashed a tsunami which travelled 5,000 miles across the Pacific to Japan.Scientists say that when it returns (and we are apparently overdue), the shocks will last for as long as six minutes and aftershocks could last for months.Terrifyingly, they also predict the Cascadia could trigger a tsunami of 85-foot-high waves which could drown as many as 33,000 on the West Coast.Portland Monthly paints an apocalyptic picture, saying: "Hillsides will slide, buildings will collapse, roads will buckle, bridges will crack."

It is considered such a deadly threat that, in 2013, more than 160 scientists, engineers and construction experts gathered to develop the Oregon Resilience Plan.They said doing nothing would result in "decades of economic and population... that will devastate our state and ripple beyond Oregon to affect the regional and national economy".

A map of the Pacific Ring of Fire where volcanic and earthquake activity has been record in recent weeksUSGS
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A report from January 2018 reveals that Oregon is far from ready if another big earthquake hits the state

The Ring of Fire has caused a number of devastating of earthquakes over the years and is where two of the earth’s huge tectonic plates meet.

It is formed of a string of 452 volcanoes and sites of high seismic activity that encircle the Pacific Ocean.

Fears are now growing California's "Big One" could be on the way - a 9.0 magnitude earthquake that would tear through the West coast of the US and cause a tsunami.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7073186/oregon-earthquake-portland-bandon-lates/
 

TxGal

Day by day
I'm watching Dutchsinse now on this latest earthquake and update around the world. Not looking good for the west coast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8btVyFebHc

8/22/2018 -- Large M6.2 Earthquake strikes West Coast USA / Oregon -- Seismic Unrest Spreading; run time 57:49. First 5 minutes or so really explains his concerns.
 

Shacknasty Shagrat

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I would hope some local authorities would have a tsunami drill or so.
So far, we have been lucky,abd assuredly, not good.
The activity does not seem to be quieting down.
SS


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It was recorded at a depth of around six miles but no tsunami warning has yet been issued, according to the United States Geological Survey (USGS).

The shake followed an intense week of seismic activity in which the deadly Ring of Fire was rocked by 70 quakes in just 48 hours.

A cluster of 16 "significant" movements, all above magnitude 4.5, hit on Monday following 53 that shook the region along the disaster zone on Sunday.

They rattled Indonesia, Bolivia, Japan and Fiji but didn't reach the western coast of the US, which sits on the horseshoe-shaped Ring of Fire fault line.
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There have been a lot of quakes 'above' 4.5 all around the Rim and in a short time.

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?541420-Sixty-nine-major-earthquakes-hit-the-Pacific-s-Ring-of-Fire-in-48-hours

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?541445-7.3-in-Venezuela
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I'm watching Dutchsinse now on this latest earthquake and update around the world. Not looking good for the west coast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8btVyFebHc

8/22/2018 -- Large M6.2 Earthquake strikes West Coast USA / Oregon -- Seismic Unrest Spreading; run time 57:49. First 5 minutes or so really explains his concerns.

The guy is a maroon (<- see what I did there?!? :lol:), you really should stop following him, he's as idiotic and fear mongering as Mike from Natural News.
 

Creedmoor

Tempus Fugit
The guy is a maroon (<- see what I did there?!? :lol:), you really should stop following him, he's as idiotic and fear mongering as Mike from Natural News.

Gotta disagree. He’s far more accurate than headaches, eating disorders or psycho cats.
 
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Shacknasty Shagrat

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Dutchsinse made a few predictions,
1. that there should be more quakes very soon to the south of the big quake,
2. there should be more activity soon around Yellowstone.
After a week or so with no big activity, the predictions will be mere speculation.
A big one or many smaller ones in the next few days in these areas would support his ideas.
SS
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Dutchsinse made a few predictions,
1. that there should be more quakes very soon to the south of the big quake,
2. there should be more activity soon around Yellowstone.
After a week or so with no big activity, the predictions will be mere speculation.
A big one or many smaller ones in the next few days in these areas would support his ideas.
SS

Those are generalizations which always yields a hit. Here's one, sometime in the next week there will be a 6.0+ quake somewhere on the ring of fire... and go!
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Gotta disagree. He’s far more accurate than headaches, eating disorders or psycho cats.

My cat wasn't psycho! And actually my food cravings and headaches are pretty damned accurate! And you should be good with that since all he does is make bloviated generalizations that anyone can make because there will always be quakes around the planet especially on the ring of fire. Oh and did you see my generalization post I made in one of the quake threads last week, where I felt a large quake was going to hit off one of the US coasts or one of our territories? Guess I beat him to the punch this time... btw I still have my quake headache so a much larger quake is still coming... ;)
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Gotta disagree. He’s far more accurate than headaches, eating disorders or psycho cats.


Some of us really are sensitive to earth changes... maybe it's because I was hit by lightning, or that I'm native american and my mother taught me how to observe earth changes, etc., There used to be a board dedicated for those of us who sensed these earth changes.

Instead of mocking people such as myself maybe you should be embracing our skill sets, it could save your life someday. ;)

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Jim Berkland
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James O. Berkland (July 31, 1930 – July 22, 2016) was a California geologist[1] noted for his claims of predicting various earthquakes, including the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake and 1994 Northridge Earthquake [The Man Who Predicts Earthquakes, pages 103-104] and popularizing the concept that some people are earthquake sensitive. He was celebrated in a popular 2006 book as "The Man Who Predicts Earthquakes"; The book includes a chapter that notes: "Many of Berkland's theories--based on tides, moons, disoriented pets, lost cats and dogs, and magnetic field changes--were factors in the great Indian Ocean quake-tsunami disaster on December 26, 2004." [The Man Who Predicts Earthquakes, pages 144-160] but neither his methods nor his predictions have been published in any scientific journal. His results have been disputed, and other scientists have called him a crank[2] and a clown.[3]

Career
Jim Berkland studied geology at the University of California, Berkeley earning the Bachelor of Arts degree in 1958. Thereafter he worked for the United States Geological Survey while pursuing graduate study. In 1964, he took a position at the United States Bureau of Reclamation.[4] After further graduate study, he taught for a year at Appalachian State University, 1972–1973, then returned to California to work as County Geologist for Santa Clara County from 1973 until he retired in 1994.[5]

Predictions
Berkland's predictions have been either self-published in his newsleter or website, or announced in various interviews or speaking engagements.[6] His notoriety arose from an interview published in the Gilroy Dispatch on October 13, 1989, where he predicted that an earthquake with a magnitude between 3.5 and 6.0 would occur in the San Francisco Bay Area between October 14 and October 21.[7] The 6.9-magnitude Loma Prieta earthquake occurred on October 17, just four days later. Berkland claims that government officials told him not to make any more predictions, fearing mass panic, and he was suspended for two months from his Santa Clara County geology position in late October, 1989.[citation needed]

Interviewed on Fox News in March 2011, Berkland predicted a massive earthquake in California for sometime between March 19 and March 26, 2011. He cited as factors the highest tides in 18 years and the proximity of the Moon, suggesting that the quake will most likely strike on Saturday, March 19, 2011.[8] No such quake occurred.[9]

He has also claimed to have predicted the 1980 M 7.2 Eureka earthquake just fourteen hours before it hit, but the tape-recording documenting this "had somehow been lost in the mail".[10]

Up to June 2010 Berkland made many predictions in his newsletter and on his website, for which he has claimed a "75 percent accuracy rate".[11]

Methodology

Amplitude of the ocean tide at Golden Gate Bridge for five weeks in 1970. Brackets indicate seismic window periods.[12]
Further information: Tidal triggering of earthquakes
Berkland has been predicting earthquakes since the 1970s, but his method has not been described in the scientific literature (he claims because of censorship and a conspiracy of prejudicial reviewers[13]), nor in any detail in any media.[14] In 1990 he described the "Seismic Window Theory" as "correlating gravitational stresses with earthquakes" - referring to the tidal stresses in the Earth resulting from the gravitational pull of the Moon, especially at lunar perigee, when the Moon is closest to the Earth. He said there are three main processes: (1) the solid Earth tide that deforms the Earth's crust (up to three feet), (2) oceanic tides, and (3) ground water pore-pressure. Since 1979 he has also subscribed to a theory that "pets often react prior to earthquakes by running away", which he measures by monitoring the lost-and-found ads in several newspapers.[15] He claims that ads for missing animals "increase dramatically by up to 300-400 per cent" prior to earthquakes.

In 2006 Berkland's method was described[16] as the "Three Double G" system: 1) "the gravity gradient, or the forces exacted on the Earth by the gravitational pull of the Sun and the Moon." 2) "Gone Gatos" (missing cats) as indicated by advertisements in several newspapers. 3) "Geyser Gaps", seen as irregularities in the behavior of a geyser in the Napa Valley. Berkland's method has been said to also involve "a hodge-podge of factors".[17]

McClellan provides the most detailed description.[18] Berkland starts with two lunar syzygies each month where the Sun, Moon, and Earth are aligned (corresponding to the new Moon and full Moon). He then sets a "seismic window" eight days long, beginning from one to three days before each syzygy. The one nearest perigee, that raises the highest tides, he terms primary, the other secondary. The greatest tides happen when syzygy and perigee are less than 25 hours apart (from two to five times a year). On that basis he then predicts one or more earthquakes of a specified magnitude within each of three regions on the U.S. West Coast, and one or more earthquakes globally. The West Coast regions are:

(a) within 140 miles from Los Angeles City Hall (34°N 118°W),
(b) within 140 miles of Mt. Diablo (east of San Francisco; 37.9°N 121.9°W), and
(c) anywhere in Washington or Oregon.
Then he then selects location and magnitude by considering a number of other factors, including:

(1) unusual animal behavior
(2) misbehaving geysers and hot springs,
(3) extreme seasonal rainfall,
(4) reports of symptoms from human "seismic sensitives",
(5) magnetic fluctuations,
(6) seismic quiet periods,
(7) personal intuition (his so-called "MOSS predictions", or "monthly outright seismic speculations").
How Berkland evaluated his success rate prior to 1999 is unknown. Since then he has used his "dartboard" method,[19] where he takes credit not only for "bulls-eyes" (where an earthquake occurs within his windows of time, place, and magnitude), but also partial credit of 90, 80, or 70 percent for earthquakes within:

one, two, or three days on either side of his window,
0.1, 0.2, or 0.3 units of magnitude,
10, 20, or 30 percent beyond his standard radius of 140 miles.
The product of these scores is the summary score, and any score of 70% or greater is counted as a hit.

Scientific criticism
Of methodology
Berkland's method of predicting earthquakes is based primarily on the idea that where tectonic forces have brought rock to the brink of failure earthquakes can be triggered by the tidal forces induced by the Sun and Moon, especially when they are greatest (that is, at the points of orbital syzygy, corresponding with the new Moon and full Moon). While this seems plausible, attempts to identify any such effect generally have been equivocal, possibly because various factors might not have been properly accounted for.[20] An evaluation specifically of earthquakes in the San Francisco Bay area (done by the USGS in 1980 at Berkland's request) showed a slight deficiency of earthquakes during Berkland's "seismic windows". Although that deficiency was considered statistically insignificant, the overall conclusion was that "the seismic window theory fails as a reliable method of earthquake prediction."[21] A subsequent study in 2004 found slightly more M > 7.0 earthquakes than expected in seismic windows in a ten-year period, but this evened out in longer periods, and overall syzygy considerations were found to have no predictive value.[22]

Of predictions
Every earthquake takes place within 3 months of an equinox.
—Charles Richter[23]
Berkland has said that the only real test of a predictive method is how well it performs,[24] and in this regard he claims a "75 percent accuracy rate".[25] However,[26] Berkland's "windows" are so large that they should net about three-quarters of all earthquakes even if they occurred randomly, without regard to syzygy. E.g., in a 28-day lunar cycle he has two windows of eight days each, plus six partial credit days, thus covering 22 days out of the 28.[27] (This is reminiscent of Charles Richter's pronouncement that "every earthquake takes place within 3 months of an equinox."[28]) The arbitrary inclusion of other undocumented factors makes the results nearly impossible to evaluate. One analysis that tried to evaluate his results in a consistent manner found no statistical significance, and concluded that "Berkland is not actually predicting earthquakes."[29]

Berkland's claimed "accuracy rate" is also incomplete. The societal value of any prediction method depends not only on its success rate (the proportion of total predictions that are successful), but also on the false alarm ratio (the proportion of predictions that are false), and on the hit rate (proportion of all events successfully predicted), or its inversion, the number of earthquakes missed.[30] These cannot be determined without knowing about all of the predictions made, which Berkland does not document.
 

Shacknasty Shagrat

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Some helpful anallysis.
SS

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The Intel Crab Retweeted
Stephen Hicks
‏Verified account @seismo_steve
8h8 hours ago

Let's be clear about this before any nonsense starts.
M6.2 quake just now offshore Oregon is not related to the Pacific "Ring of Fire", nor does it indicate a sudden activity increase.
The quake is caused by horizontal transform faulting out in the Pacific -not a subduction event

https://twitter.com/intelcrab?lang=en
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
The quake was a nothingburger here in Portland. The last earthquake Portland dealt with was a 5 point one back in 1996 I think.

If/when the Cascadia Subduction zone goes, it will be at least an 8 plus, and more likely a 9 plus. We have documented, empirical and oral data that tells us in January of 1700 a massive, 9 plus, quake hit. It sent a tsunami all the way to Japan, wiped out several Indian villages, and drowned thousands of trees along the shoreline. If you go to Longview, Washington, you will find a large area of dead trees inland that died off during that quake. The big one here will be when the entire 700 mile plus ocean floor length collapses. It will send huge tsunami waves both east and west. It will send shock waves hundreds of miles inland, to the north towards Seattle and Vancouver, BC. It will send them east into Portland and points east.

Dutchsinse has been extremely accurate in his predictions.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
It is IN THE RING OF FIRE, therefore it is IS associated with the Ring of Fire; it might or might not be associated with a particular set of Earthquakes or a particular fault line etc - but the Ring of Fire is a general reference pretty much for the "ring" around the South Pacific all the way to the tip of South America; I supposed a middle of the Pacific Ocean quake might not be considered in the Ring, but one off the Coast most certainly would be.

Good thing it does not actually seem to have impacted people on the coast or caused a tidal wave.
 

Creedmoor

Tempus Fugit
My cat wasn't psycho! And actually my food cravings and headaches are pretty damned accurate! And you should be good with that since all he does is make bloviated generalizations that anyone can make because there will always be quakes around the planet especially on the ring of fire. Oh and did you see my generalization post I made in one of the quake threads last week, where I felt a large quake was going to hit off one of the US coasts or one of our territories? Guess I beat him to the punch this time... btw I still have my quake headache so a much larger quake is still coming... ;)

Seriously?

His “generalizations” are for narrow magnitude ranges, specific locations (+/- 200 miles) within a 7 day window. You on the other hand, specify a “large” quake and zero in on the entire coastline of the U.S. (33,207 miles) PLUS all our territories for “sometime”. Oh yeah,you beat him big time. He at least has the semblance of a methodology that is roughly 85% accurate and far more useful than your somewhere,sometime feelings based method. While I take all these prognosticators with some salt, his require just a grain,whileI need a whole shaker full for yours.
 

naturallysweet

Has No Life - Lives on TB
My personal feelings is that there will be some sort of explosion around the time the first rains come. Whether that is an earthquake, a volcano, or something else. I don't know.
 

Trouble

Veteran Member
God help those folks in the danger zone of these. I've felt exactly 2 quakes in my life, both 5 something's. Small but let me tell you, when the earth itself moves it truly shows is how small we truly are. It was eye opening believe me. And both times I was in southern Kansas of all places.
 

susie0884

Dooming since 1998
Dutchsinse has been extremely accurate in his predictions.

Yup. A lot of his early stuff was crap, and so I held a poor opinion of him for some time. But fortunately, I was persuaded to take another look at him because he has really worked out a lot of kinks in his model of prediction. FAR more helpful than headaches and cats.

He is just basically tracing out the reverberations from existing quakes along fault lines to tell you the locations the earth will next let off steam. And he is getting better on magnitudes.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Hurricane Lane is predicted to, even without a direct hit, dump between 12 and 24 inches of rain, in a 24 hour timeframe, in and around the Kilauea volcanic eruption zone. What the impact of that will be remains to be seen, but it can't be good. The other thing is Lane may go directly over water that has been heated by lava flows for some time now. I wonder what the water temperature directly south of the Big Island is right now. I wonder what impact 12 inches of rain falling on that will be.

Yep, even if Hawaii doesn't get a direct hit from Lane, the outer rain bands are going to cover damn near the entire island chain and cause landslides, flash flooding. One of the stories I was reading indicated that the Hawaiian Islands have been pretty much deforested at this point in time. Heavy rain, over a 24 hour period, and bare hills could lead to mudslides of historic proportions.

Again, as regards the "Big One," involving the Cascadia Subduction Zone, well that one won't be a six: IT WILL LIKELY BE A 9 PLUS ON THE RICHTER SCALE. It will be like the Boxer Day Quake off of Indonesia back in 2004. The one that killed over 200,000 people.
 

susie0884

Dooming since 1998
"The other thing is Lane may go directly over water that has been heated by lava flows for some time now. I wonder what the water temperature directly south of the Big Island is right now."

I hadn't even thought about that one.
 

fairywell

Veteran Member
Saw this thread and went to check on other earthquakes. Found it interesting that about an hour and half ago there was a 2.6 in Gold Bar Wa which is not too far from where I am. What is interesting is that for the last two hours my one dog and two cats have been laying on the floor within about 4 feet of each other and about 10 feet from me........that NEVER happens. I took a picture because it is so unusual and sent it to my husband saying "apparently the animals are bonding this morning". Makes me wonder because I do believe that some people, and definitely animals, are earthquake "sensitives". And yes, 2.6 is nothing shocking but nevertheless makes me go hmmmm...
 

skwentnaflyer

Veteran Member
Seriously?

His “generalizations” are for narrow magnitude ranges, specific locations (+/- 200 miles) within a 7 day window. You on the other hand, specify a “large” quake and zero in on the entire coastline of the U.S. (33,207 miles) PLUS all our territories for “sometime”. Oh yeah,you beat him big time. He at least has the semblance of a methodology that is roughly 85% accurate and far more useful than your somewhere,sometime feelings based method. While I take all these prognosticators with some salt, his require just a grain,whileI need a whole shaker full for yours.


This. Science is beginning to agree with his methods, he's just a bit ahead of the curve.
 

texkat72

Veteran Member
Soooo tired of the “Pile on Packy” posts! Maybe there should be a thread just for all the haters, who continually gripe about member’s viewpoints. They could stay over there and whine, 24/7, about all the members they disagree with! Give us a break! JMNSHO
 

Shacknasty Shagrat

Has No Life - Lives on TB

Creedmoor

Tempus Fugit
Soooo tired of the “Pile on Packy” posts! Maybe there should be a thread just for all the haters, who continually gripe about member’s viewpoints. They could stay over there and whine, 24/7, about all the members they disagree with! Give us a break! JMNSHO

So you’re looking for an echo chamber of ideas you agree with? That’s not a discussion. That’s a mutual admiration society.

If you actually had followed this from the beginning you would have noted that it started with Pachy disagreed with and taking shots at another member’s opinion on prediction of earthquakes. Does that make her a hater too? I don’t think so. You need a thicker skin if you intend to hang here without getting your panties in a twist. Sheesh.
 

Shacknasty Shagrat

Has No Life - Lives on TB
When I go to the link, the map says it all.
I would copy/paste it if I could.
To me, the dates, times, and locations are very unusual.
SS

Here is another article with good facts and data.
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Over The Last 7 Days Our Planet Has Been Violently Shaken By 144 Major Earthquakes

by Tyler Durden


Authored by Michael Snyder via The American Dream blog,





Within the past few days, we have seen an enormous magnitude 7.3 earthquake hit Venezuela and a giant magnitude 8.2 earthquake hit Fiji. Where will the next one strike?

To many of us, it is becoming exceedingly clear that something very unusual is happening to our planet. I went and looked it up, and I was astounded to learn that the crust of the Earth has been shaken by 144 major earthquakes over the last 7 days, and that includes more than 50 on Sunday alone.

And remember, these are not small earthquakes. The USGS considers any earthquake that is at least magnitude 4.5 to be “significant”, and they are happening so rapidly right now that it is difficult to keep up with them.

Source: USGS

Usually, only earthquakes that cause death and destruction get attention from the mainstream media, and that was definitely the case with the huge quake that hit the northern coast of Venezuela on Tuesday…

A major earthquake of magnitude 7.3 struck the northern coast of Venezuela on Tuesday and shook buildings as far away as the capital, Caracas, the U.S. Geological Survey said.

The quake was centered near the town of Carupano, an area of poor fishing communities and was felt as far away as neighboring Colombia to the east and nearby island nations like Trinidad and Tobago, and St. Lucia, to the west and north.

This is certainly the last thing that the people of Venezuela need at the moment. Their currency was just devalued again, and at this point it is so worthless that people are literally throwing it into dumpsters.

According to media reports, the quake lasted for approximately two minutes, and it really shook people up. The following comes from Reuters…

“I feel like I’m about to faint. I’m shaking. It was long,” said telemarketing worker Sheny Fuentes, 22, speaking outside her work building in eastern Caracas. “I’m relieved that it doesn’t seem like damage was that bad. We would have been even more affected (given Venezuela’s economic crisis) – there are already people eating from the garbage and buildings aren’t well made,” she told Reuters.

The other day I noted that the magnitude 8.2 quake that just hit Fiji was the second largest “deep focus” earthquake ever recorded, and this quake in Venezuela was highly unusual as well.

In fact, seismologist Stephen Hicks says that it was one of “the largest ever recorded” in that entire region…

M7.3 earthquake today along the northern coast of Venezuela is one of the largest ever recorded earthquakes along the boundary between the Caribbean & South American plates. There was an M7.7 quake to the west in 1900 but this will have preceded detailed instrumental recordings

And this earthquake came right on the heels of an extremely active 48 hours for global seismic activity.

According to the Daily Mail, the “Ring of Fire” was shaken by a total of 69 major earthquakes on Sunday and Monday…

Sixty nine major earthquakes have hit Earth’s most active geological disaster zone in the space of just 48 hours.

Sixteen ‘significant’ tremors – those at magnitude 4.5 or above – shook the Pacific ‘Ring of Fire’ on Monday, following a spate of 53 that hit the region Sunday.

The vast majority of the earthquakes that shake our planet take place along the Ring of Fire. It roughly encircles the Pacific Ocean, and it runs right up the west coast of the United States.

As the Ring of Fire has become more seismically active over the past several months, it has increased concerns that “the Big One” may soon be coming to California. Just check out this excerpt from a Daily Mail article that was just published…

The tremors have raised concerns that California’s ‘Big One’ – a destructive earthquake of magnitude 8 or greater – may be looming.

Scientists have previously warned that Ring of Fire activity may trigger a domino effect that sets off earthquakes and volcanic eruptions elsewhere in the region.

Scientists assure us that it is only a matter of time before the west coast is hit by major seismic events, and I even included a major seismic event on the west coast in my apocalyptic novel about the future of America. We are seeing earthquakes increase in frequency and intensity all over the planet, and they are starting to happen in places that we don’t normally expect. For instance, just check out what happened in Italy last week…

A number of earthquakes struck the region of Molise on the nights of August 15th and August 16th and the morning of August 17th. An earthquake was also felt in Le Marche near the port city of Ancona.

A magnitude 5.2 earthquake struck four kilometres from the southeastern town of Montecilfone, a village of 1,348 people, in the region of Molise, on the night of August 16th just after 8pm, according to Italy’s National Institute for Geophysics and Vulcanology (INGV), which monitors seismic activity.

But until major shaking starts happening in the continental United States, most Americans are not going to pay attention.

It simply is not “normal” for 144 major earthquakes to happen in just one week. In addition, dozens of volcanoes are currently erupting all over the globe. We appear to have entered a time when the crust of our planet is going to become increasingly unstable, and it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that this is going to have very serious implications for the future of our society.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...s-been-violently-shaken-144-major-earthquakes
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
I think people are obsessing on the Cascadian Subduction Zone and ignoring all the other areas around it. This particular earthquake was not actually a part of the Cascadia Subduction zone, and was in a "break," near it.
What this earthquake did is increase the pressure on the Cascadia Subduction Zone, even though it didn't happen in the 700 mile long trench. I can't remember the exact name of the trench it happened in, but when you add this earthquake, along with all the Alaska earthquakes, plus the earthquake swarms happening on Vancover Island, well Doomer Doug is getting nervous.

the point of this quake was not this quake. the point was the impact it has on the Cascadian Subduction Zone, which will be to increase the pressure on it, which is BAD, BAD, BAD.

So yeah, my spidey senses are telling me we may, repeat may, be looking at the "big one," like a 9 plus quake directly on the Cascadia Subduction Zone in the near future.

Yep, dutchsinse has done a very good job of highlighting all the issues related to the entire coastal area, BC, Washington, Oregon and Northern California, and the large number of quakes that have happened there the last year or so. They call it the ring of fire for a reason, and it has been rocking and rolling for months now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmszbyCNNj0&t=619s

The earthquake part starts at 7 minutes in. The exact area is called the Blanco Fracture Zone. which is just west of the actual cascadia subduction zone. We also just had a 6.3 the other day.
 

Shacknasty Shagrat

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I think people are obsessing on the Cascadian Subduction Zone and ignoring all the other areas around it. This particular earthquake was not actually a part of the Cascadia Subduction zone, and was in a "break," near it.
What this earthquake did is increase the pressure on the Cascadia Subduction Zone, even though it didn't happen in the 700 mile long trench. I can't remember the exact name of the trench it happened in, but when you add this earthquake, along with all the Alaska earthquakes, plus the earthquake swarms happening on Vancover Island, well Doomer Doug is getting nervous.

the point of this quake was not this quake. the point was the impact it has on the Cascadian Subduction Zone, which will be to increase the pressure on it, which is BAD, BAD, BAD.

So yeah, my spidey senses are telling me we may, repeat may, be looking at the "big one," like a 9 plus quake directly on the Cascadia Subduction Zone in the near future.

Yep, dutchsinse has done a very good job of highlighting all the issues related to the entire coastal area, BC, Washington, Oregon and Northern California, and the large number of quakes that have happened there the last year or so. They call it the ring of fire for a reason, and it has been rocking and rolling for months now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmszbyCNNj0&t=619s

The earthquake part starts at 7 minutes in. The exact area is called the Blanco Fracture Zone. which is just west of the actual cascadia subduction zone. We also just had a 6.3 the other day.

DD, I think you have the logic and priorities of these events in the right order.
Your spidey sense may be telling something to the rest of us.
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Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
I was ten ten years old when the "BIG ONE," hit Alaska around a 9 plus. I still remember a picture showing one side of the road tilted up several feet. I want people to understand that when, not if, we do get a quake along the entire 700 mile Cascadian Subduction Zone it will be a minimum of an 8, and almost certainly above a 9, possibly a 9.3 on the Richter Scale. Now when, not if, that quake happens it will send a massive tsunami towards Japan, Hawaii, and many of the Pacific Islands. Further, it will send a massive tsunami towards Vancover Island, Puget Sound, and all along the US West coast from BC to at least Northern California. It will also send massive shock waves, that will go deep inland, as in several hundred miles, all the way from BC, to Washington, Oregon and likely Northern California. We don't have one single city on the US West Coast, not Vancouver, BC or Washington, or Seattle, Portland, San Francisco or Los Angeles that can take a hit from a 9 plus quake and not have devastating infrastructure damage. The main damage from any big quakes comes from the tsunami, followed by the shaking, and finally fire damage. The 1906 San Francisco quake did nearly all of its damage from fires that were started.

Yep, forget Yellowstone Park, or San Andreas Fault, or even the Hayward Fault. The one that will redefine modern US life is when all of our major cities on the West Coast turn into shattered, burning piles of debris.


I'm not saying that this is going to happen imminently. I am saying the historical record shows a big quake in the 300 year range, which is where we are right now. It is also disturbing we are seeing multiple quakes: in Hawaii, in Alaska, and all along the US West Coast. In particular, Vancouver Island is undergoing swarms, as in 100's of them daily of very small quakes, most below 1. This means there is a lot of pressure, ALL ALONG THE 700 MILES LONG CASCADIA SUBDUCTION ZONE, PLUS ALL THE AREAS AROUND THE ZONE, AND ALL THAT ENERGY HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE. The most likely release point will be along the 700 miles of the Cascadia Subduction Zone.

A 6.3 quake off of Bandon, Oregon is a very big dot, especially since it was on one of the trenches that feeds into the main one. All of that energy release just went into the Subduction Zone. nuff said
 

Texican

Live Free & Die Free.... God Freedom Country....
Soooo tired of the “Pile on Packy” posts! Maybe there should be a thread just for all the haters, who continually gripe about member’s viewpoints. They could stay over there and whine, 24/7, about all the members they disagree with! Give us a break! JMNSHO

Now that would be a large thread with lots of visitors....

Texican....
 

skwentnaflyer

Veteran Member
Soooo tired of the “Pile on Packy” posts! Maybe there should be a thread just for all the haters, who continually gripe about member’s viewpoints. They could stay over there and whine, 24/7, about all the members they disagree with! Give us a break! JMNSHO

Surely you jest?
Twas the elephant that began griping about Dutchsinse because she disagrees with his methods.
 

tanstaafl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I still very strongly disagree with labelling 4.5 earthquakes as "major" (which I bitched about in the "Sixty nine major earthquakes hit the Pacific's Ring of Fire in 48 hours" thread). There is a huge world of difference between a 4.5 magnitude and a 7.3 magnitude earthquake. According to https://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/topics/calculator.php, "A magnitude 7.3 earthquake is 630.957 times bigger than a magnitude 4.5 earthquake, but it is 15,848.931 times stronger (energy release)." Calling a molehill a mountain does not, in fact, make the molehill a mountain, regardless of how many different people (this time Tyler Durden) repeat it.

My personal feeling is that 6.0-or-larger qualifies as "major" but 4.5's are probably of real interest only to the locals. Which is not to say that smaller earthquakes are never worthy of notice. For example, today is the seventh anniversary of the 5.8 earthquake in Virginia, and that one was felt over quite a large area on the East Coast. Or that smaller-than-6.0's aren't capable of killing a lot of people:

1998/02/04 - 5.9 earthquake in Afghanistan, at least 2,323 people died (source: USGS)

1986/10/10 - 5.5 earthquake in El Salvador, at least 1,000 died (source: USGS) (tanstaafl: this is the lowest magnitude I have in my notes for 1,000+ deaths, although there may well be lower magnitudes that did that as well)

1969/07/25 - 5.9 earthquake in China, about 3,000 died (source: USGS)

1960/02/29 - 5.7 earthquake in Morocco, about 12,000 died

1946/05/31 - 5.9 earthquake in Turkey, 840-1,300 died (source: USGS)

1931/04/27 - 5.7 earthquake in Armenia, about 2,800 died (source: USGS)

1923/05/25 - 5.7 earthquake in Iran, about 2,200 died (source: USGS)

1883/07/28 - 5.6 earthquake in Italy, over 2,000 died (source: USGS)

1783/02/05 - Series of earthquakes (5.9 or greater) in Italy (Calabria/southern Italy), notable for relatively moderate earthquakes causing tsunamis which over two months killed 32,000-50,000 people
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I was ten ten years old when the "BIG ONE," hit Alaska around a 9 plus. I still remember a picture showing one side of the road tilted up several feet. I want people to understand that when, not if, we do get a quake along the entire 700 mile Cascadian Subduction Zone it will be a minimum of an 8, and almost certainly above a 9, possibly a 9.3 on the Richter Scale. Now when, not if, that quake happens it will send a massive tsunami towards Japan, Hawaii, and many of the Pacific Islands. Further, it will send a massive tsunami towards Vancover Island, Puget Sound, and all along the US West coast from BC to at least Northern California. It will also send massive shock waves, that will go deep inland, as in several hundred miles, all the way from BC, to Washington, Oregon and likely Northern California. We don't have one single city on the US West Coast, not Vancouver, BC or Washington, or Seattle, Portland, San Francisco or Los Angeles that can take a hit from a 9 plus quake and not have devastating infrastructure damage. The main damage from any big quakes comes from the tsunami, followed by the shaking, and finally fire damage. The 1906 San Francisco quake did nearly all of its damage from fires that were started.

Yep, forget Yellowstone Park, or San Andreas Fault, or even the Hayward Fault. The one that will redefine modern US life is when all of our major cities on the West Coast turn into shattered, burning piles of debris.


I'm not saying that this is going to happen imminently. I am saying the historical record shows a big quake in the 300 year range, which is where we are right now. It is also disturbing we are seeing multiple quakes: in Hawaii, in Alaska, and all along the US West Coast. In particular, Vancouver Island is undergoing swarms, as in 100's of them daily of very small quakes, most below 1. This means there is a lot of pressure, ALL ALONG THE 700 MILES LONG CASCADIA SUBDUCTION ZONE, PLUS ALL THE AREAS AROUND THE ZONE, AND ALL THAT ENERGY HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE. The most likely release point will be along the 700 miles of the Cascadia Subduction Zone.

A 6.3 quake off of Bandon, Oregon is a very big dot, especially since it was on one of the trenches that feeds into the main one. All of that energy release just went into the Subduction Zone. nuff said


My guess is that when the big one hits multiple large cities on the west coast will take a major hit, not just one.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Soooo tired of the “Pile on Packy” posts! Maybe there should be a thread just for all the haters, who continually gripe about member’s viewpoints. They could stay over there and whine, 24/7, about all the members they disagree with! Give us a break! JMNSHO

lol, nobody was piling on me! ;)
 

NCGirl

Veteran Member
I have felt at least a half dozen 3.5 - 4.5 (ish) and then one that was around 6.5 and there is a world of difference. It didn't help that I was in a 3rd world country inside a market made of very questionable concrete form during the biggest one. I can't imagine an 8 or above there, or even in a building specially designed for it, nope. bad thing.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
It’s not just this thread. My hackles go up, when I read snark about the Fat Man...
;)

Yes, well that does piss me off and I did take a break from here this spring, and most of the summer, because of one person's opinion in the Religious forum that I was demon possessed because I talk to my cat.
 
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