TECH 39 Days to Mars - NASA selects companies to develop Vasimr engine.

Richard

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I actually think colonization is already going on. We have a "breakaway civilization" that has been involved in this stuff since at least WWII.

What does this mean, you think colonisation has been going on, what evidence do you have?
 

Richard

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People live underwater for months at a time, the crews of the space station, the shuttle, the Russian stations and Soyuz, and the Moon have all survived and performed their duties without the benefit of an indigenous atmosphere. They take it all with them. On Mars, we have copious materials to make whatever oxygen is needed to breathe, we just need to bring nitrogen to keep oxidation at normal levels for safety reasons. Your boogeyman is weak.


We already know how to do this sort of thing, it's just a matter of resources and will.

Bullshit, I know you are a rocket scientist involved in the Mars mission but I would like to know your actual role, just because you are a scientist or technician involved in the project does not mean your musings on the future have any validity or not.
Yes I think eventually that your team will land on Mars, maybe in the next 15 years but that's it.
 
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Faroe

Un-spun
What does this mean, you think colonisation has been going on, what evidence do you have?

You can read, or look up videos.
Richard Hogeland, Joseph P. Farrell, Catherine Austin Fitts, Richard Dolan, Linda Molton Howe, Project Camelot interviews...

Those are off the top of my head. I can't spell, so some names might not be spelled correctly.

Other researchers that are indirectly related to this area (but fill out the larger picture) would be Michael Tsarion, Jim Marrs, Freddy Sylva, Graham Hancock, Lloyd Pye... There is LOTS of information out there. You just have to look for it, and use discernment. YMMV
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
... and finding ways to overcome that pesky little problem of mismatched gravity. Unless, of course, we can genetically reengineer the human body to cope. Hey, as long as we're talking science fiction ...

Martian gravity is less than Earth but a lot greater than zero G in space or the Moon - so again that's another reason it is a likely rest stop at the very least for asteroid workers; it won't surprise me at all if there are regulations on how long the asteroid workers can be on "tour" as it will sort of be like working on an oil rig only a lot more restrictive plus the gravity issues.
 

Richard

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Martian gravity is less than Earth but a lot greater than zero G in space or the Moon - so again that's another reason it is a likely rest stop at the very least for asteroid workers; it won't surprise me at all if there are regulations on how long the asteroid workers can be on "tour" as it will sort of be like working on an oil rig only a lot more restrictive plus the gravity issues.

this is such a pathetic comment
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
You can read, or look up videos.
Richard Hogeland, Joseph P. Farrell, Catherine Austin Fitts, Richard Dolan, Linda Molton Howe, Project Camelot interviews...

Those are off the top of my head. I can't spell, so some names might not be spelled correctly.

Other researchers that are indirectly related to this area (but fill out the larger picture) would be Michael Tsarion, Jim Marrs, Freddy Sylva, Graham Hancock, Lloyd Pye... There is LOTS of information out there. You just have to look for it, and use discernment. YMMV

****ing load of absolute shit

there is no evidence in any of this crap
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
Like I said, YMMV.
You have a nice day, Richard. :spns:


you cannot prove anything you say so why bother, and in days to come you will realise I am right BUT YOU WON"T ADMIT IT, OTOH I am only concerned with what is right not opinion, think about it logically, I am not right, you are not right.............
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Richard has been banned from the thread, and received several infractions for his extraordinarily poor behavior.
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
I blogged...

Triad – Three Technologies Unite for Mars
http://outbound.us/triad-three-technologies-unite-for-mars/

VASIMR Plasma Propulsion
Small Fusion Systems
Asteroid Retrieval

In the past few months the three items of my extreme interest have hit the news, and it has me pondering if NASA may be putting together (finally) a real set of architectures for a larger solar system mission. The most recent news about Dr. Franklin Chang-Diaz’s Ad Astra VASIMR getting the go-ahead for a mission seemed like a final puzzle piece falling into place. See:

Could we get to Mars in 39 DAYS? Nasa selects companies to develop super fast deep-space engine
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ies-develop-super-fast-deep-space-engine.html

If a mission to places farther than Earth orbit or Mars are to become anything other than naked, skin-of-the-teeth exploration forays, we will have to have propulsion sources like VASIMR. You need something that can cross these larger distances quickly, be reusable and re-directable to multiple destinations, and be able to perform an abort is something goes wrong. VASIMR is capable of doing all of those things.

There was also the news late last year about Lockheed Martin’s small, but high-power-density fusion power plants now in development, discussed here:

Fusion Power May Be On Its Way (Finally)
http://outbound.us/triad-three-technologies-unite-for-mars/

In short, these are the power systems VASIMR is looking for. They make the mission work.

And now we have OSIRIS-REx going forward with spacecraft assembly for its 2016 launch, announced right on the heels of Asteroid Retrieval Mission (ARM) Option B being given the green light for development.

The combination of these three things, the Triad, are the road for development of the solar system. Resource exploitation and permanent human exploration and settlement ride that road.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
For links see article source.....
Posted for fair use.....
http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-funds-12-deep-space-exploration-technologies-111907125.html

NASA Funds 12 Deep-Space Exploration Technologies
SPACE.com
By Mike Wall April 2, 2015 7:19 AM

NASA has funded the development of a dozen new technologies that could help humanity extend its footprint out into the solar system.

The awards, which were granted via a program called Next Space Technologies for Exploration Partnerships (NextSTEP), set up NASA partnerships with 10 aerospace companies and one public university to develop tech in three different areas: advanced electric propulsion, human habitation and small satellites. (One of the companies, Lockheed Martin Space Systems, received awards for two different technologies.)

"Commercial partners were selected for their technical ability to mature key technologies and their commitment to the potential applications both for government and private-sector uses," William Gerstenmaier, associate administrator for Human Exploration and Operations at NASA Headquarters, said in a statement. "This work ultimately will inform the strategy to move human presence further into the solar system." [Future Visions of Human Spaceflight (Gallery)]

The propulsion grants are worth $400,000 to $3.5 million per year per award for up to three years of work, NASA officials said. Three companies received awards: Texas-based Ad Astra Rocket Company; Aerojet Rocketdyne of Redmond, Washington; and MSNW LLC, which is also based in Redmond.

Ad Astra is probably best known for its VASIMR propulsion system, which is still in development. MNSW is working on a nuclear-fusion rocket in addition to its own electric-propulsion system.

The NextSTEP habitat projects aim to help develop modules to augment NASA's Orion space capsule, which is being designed to support a crew of four astronauts for three weeks in deep space. NASA wants these additional systems to boost that capability to 60 days in Earth-moon space, with the potential for scaling up for a mission to Mars.

Awardees in this field get $400,000 to $1 million for up to 12 months of work, NASA officials said. The selected companies are:

Bigelow Aerospace of North Las Vegas, Nevada
The Boeing Company of Pasadena, Texas
Dynetics, Inc. of Huntsville, Alabama
Hamilton Sundstrand Space Systems International of Windsor Locks, Connecticut
Lockheed Martin Space Systems Company of Denver, Colorado
Orbital ATK of Dulles, Virginia
Orbital Technologies Corporation of Madison, Wisconsin

The small-satellite grants intend to encourage the development of cubesat missions for possible inclusion on the first flight of NASA's Space Launch System (SLS) rocket in 2018. These contracts are worth $1.4 million to $7.9 million each, NASA officials said. Awardees are Lockheed Martin Space Systems and Morehead State University, which is located in Kentucky.

NASA is developing SLS to help get astronauts to deep-space destinations. The rocket's first flight, known as Exploration Mission-1, is slated to launch an unmanned Orion on a journey around the moon and back.

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night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
The MATH is already done, after all.
Heck refer to RAH "Expanded Universes" for it
Or any number of A. C. Clarke's or half a dozen other guys' books (and yep they did it on sliderules)
 
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