BRKG 35 Trump supporters RAIDED by FBI yesterday

NoDandy

Has No Life - Lives on TB
You Start off with Lexington and Concord which had no real "Leaders" per se , Concord for sure, and then say we need leaders.

Think about Patrick Henrys speech , as he said beseeching the action of Leaders to come forward "The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"

What was required was action by a few, not very organized if at all, then leaders emerged.

Everyone is in fear now of the Feds, what needs to happen is the Feds fear us. There is no other way.

We need to learn that in this present system, WROL , that waiting on Republicons to do something is a fatal flaw. It is simply a way to placate the masses, in your case it has worked. You tell yourself rational lies, they make sense in a rational world.
We are no longer in a rational world.

Not picking on or attempting to demean you in any way but just pointing out the falsehoods that some actually believe.

We might lose something by acting, very true. By not acting we are sure to lose EVERYTHING.
:hmm:
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I have a friend who is suing his local police department, without going into too much detail, his sister went missing and the local cops did nothing for a week. Then they raided his home and destroyed his workshop and other parts of the house because her phone had "pinged" on their property - even though they knew she had left that property in the car when she vanished.

Her car was found a day or so later (when the police finally started looking, about a week after the report) her truck had smashed into a tree just inside their property (large rural property) where it was hard to see. The tentative conclusion is she had a heart attack and tried to drive back to get help.

The officers then made things worse by trying to justify the "raid," they are hiring a prominent civil rights attorney who is taking the case (the couple raided are white).

They had to deal with all of that on top of all the hunting they (and many friends) did for their sister, mourning her death when confirmed, all the paperwork you have to do right away, and saving the animals at the sister's cat rescue center in another State.

Now that raid, if it had been done properly, could have been justified since they were the last people to see the sister alive; but the way it was conducted and the total destruction of the workshop and part of the house was probably done with the intention to intimidate.
 

Buick Electra

TB2K Girls with Guns
What if the Holy Spirit is not leading you one way or the other? Do you just sit idle and not fight?

I don't want this to turn into a religious thread, but people can convince themselves that it's the Holy Spirit telling them something, when in fact, it's just their own mind or way of thinking. That's why you have to rely upon God's Word (the BIble) because emotions, feelings and one's own thoughts can deceive them into believing they're being guided by the Holy Spirit, when in fact, they're not.

I'd like to know (physically speaking, not spiritually) what would be the "line in the sand" for you that would cause you to take up arms? I've heard people say "Oh, I'll know it when the time comes". But personally, I think that's just a cop-out. We've already gone beyond the point at which most of us in past years would have thought an armed conflict would have started at such abuses as we've seen recently. And yet we're idle.

If we keep moving the goal-post as to what would cause us to take up arms, then we'll convince ourselves that it's NEVER the time to take up arms.

I don't have great hope as to our future (physically as a nation) because of this.

My thinking is, if the demons want us in the streets rioting, I will do the exact opposite.
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
You Start off with Lexington and Concord which had no real "Leaders" per se , Concord for sure, and then say we need leaders.

Think about Patrick Henrys speech , as he said beseeching the action of Leaders to come forward "The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"

What was required was action by a few, not very organized if at all, then leaders emerged.

Everyone is in fear now of the Feds, what needs to happen is the Feds fear us. There is no other way.

We need to learn that in this present system, WROL , that waiting on Republicons to do something is a fatal flaw. It is simply a way to placate the masses, in your case it has worked. You tell yourself rational lies, they make sense in a rational world.
We are no longer in a rational world.

Not picking on or attempting to demean you in any way but just pointing out the falsehoods that some actually believe.

We might lose something by acting, very true. By not acting we are sure to lose EVERYTHING.
You quoted the greatest poet of the Revolution, imho, and your comment was worthy of quoting also!
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
That's right! You want to see me/us/we? Not hiding! I for one support Trump, but I really don't care for him much! If you can understand that.:shr:

, if the voting machines aren’t replaced with paper ballots, it is too late to save the nation from the communist coup. Everything, imho, indicates we are at the End of America, the Brave, the Good. I am of the opinion that only the Seal of God upon the true Christians will protect any from the judgements already falling on this nation. Said judgements are increasing by Degrees of intensity, as they did upon Pharaoh and Egypt in The days of Moses.
 
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pinkelsteinsmom

Veteran Member
My thinking is, if the demons want us in the streets rioting, I will do the exact opposite.
I can assure you that is the last thing they want. They have poisoned half the population and are clawing to get the weapons for a reason. FEAR, They know that if only 3% rise up they're finished.
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
Why is our side not doing anything? No leader, no organization, just a bunch of folks scattered all over the country hitting keys and enough Fed watchers to know of any attempts to really organize.
This is roughly the same phenomenon leading up to the American Revolution. People of the 1750s, 1760s, and 1770s asked the same questions, holding their anger in check. When Lexington and Concord came to pass, that's when Americans said "Fine. You asked for this."

Something about "long trail of abuses" comes to mind.
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
The Historical facts are that the first American Revolution was not started by the "Founding Fathers" but rather the common citizens, simple folk, farmers and such that were finally fed up with the abuses of the British overlords. Not until AFTER the first shots were fired did the American politicians and "leaders" actually get involved. There was a lot of talk and grumbling for many years, but the first REAL ACTION was when the common man had finally said enough, was ENOUGH!

That's when the Second American Revolution will start.....and not until.
 

marsofold

Veteran Member
Martin Armstrong on this topic. He believes that we have entered the point of no return, and that 2023 is going to be "the year from hell" per his famous computer projections:

 

jward

passin' thru

List of Trump Allies Who Had FBI Show up on Their Doorsteps or Got Subpoenas Includes a Big Name​


Nick Arama


We covered earlier the bombshell story that dozens of Trump allies reportedly were served with search warrants or subpoenas in the last few days. We included a copy of what they are looking for in at least one of the subpoenas. It was incredibly broad, looking for communications related to certification of the election and the Save America PAC.
Now, while we’re not sure of the exact number of people, some of the names are starting to come out.
William Russell wasn’t home when the two FBI agents came to his house Wednesday morning, according to sources familiar with the matter.
Russell served in the Trump White House as a special assistant to the president and the deputy director of advance before moving down to Florida to work as an aide to Trump after he left the White House.
Russell has also been subpoenaed by a federal grand jury investigating Jan. 6, sources familiar with the matter said. The subpoena requests documents and communications related to the so-called fake slates of electors pushed in various states in support of Trump, the sources said.
The NY Times is claiming they’re aware of a dozen people including Brian Jack, former White House political director under Trump, and a big name, Stephen Miller, Trump’s top speechwriter, and a senior policy adviser, who received subpoenas. Jack is currently both an adviser to Trump as well as to House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy.
The subpoenas were issued to a wide range of people who either worked in the White House or on the Trump campaign, including senior officials like the campaign’s chief financial officer; personal aides to Mr. Trump; and the former chief of staff to Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter who also served as one of his senior advisers. [….]
Among the recipients of subpoenas from a grand jury sitting in Washington are relatively junior aides from the White House and Mr. Trump’s 2020 campaign. While the subpoenas asked for information concerning the Save America PAC, they also sought communications with several pro-Trump lawyers — like Kenneth Chesebro — who helped devise the electors plan.
Numerous subpoenas focused solely on the fake elector plan were sent to Republican state lawmakers and state Republican officials allied with Mr. Trump starting this spring.
We previously reported of subpoenas being dropped on Republican Pennsylvania state lawmakers and seizing the phone of a member of Congress, Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA).

The NY Times notes that Miller was not known to have had a planning role in the electors plan or the fund-raising efforts. So it’s not clear why they are dropping a subpoena on him. Nor is it clear what their legal justification is in regard to the electors plan.
We’ll doubtless be hearing about more names of the people they raided or dropped subpoenas on. But it looks like just in the case of the Trump raid, a big net was thrown out there trying to find anything they can to go after people on. And it’s a very troubling thing when the Biden Administration appears to be going after the allies of his once and possibly future political opponent.

Posted for fair use
 

Codeno

Veteran Member
This should be a sign to those paying attention that the cheat for the midterms is locked, loaded, tested, and ready to go. This entire scam shows they fear no retribution which should tell you the cheat is good to go. This is a very bad sign for November.

I suppose it is important at this juncture to point out that there will/would be no retribution either, if there is the biggest red wave in all of history come November.

The deep state and real powers that be are probably laughing to the point of peeing their pants watching all of our "behave until the election" (or whatever) hand wringing.

It's a Uniparty, and we're not in it. There is no help coming from Washington, adjust accordingly.

Google "perp walks during the past 50 years in the United States due to the Republicans being in charge". :lkick:

Absolutely no offense intended Fenwick, your post was just handy - I agree with you wholeheartedly.
 
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jward

passin' thru
I'd be interested in hearing, for those who still think politics, voting, and our currant institutions still are relevant, and the structures sound enough to eventually right this ship. . . does that ever really happen? Has it ever happened?

..over here in the stoopid section of the peanut gallery, it sure looks like once you go this far through the looking glass, there is no righting the rot. Everything needs dismantled, disinfected, and a national foot stompin' of the roaches that scurry out from the edifices are our only hopes of coming out on the other side with anything that we'd want.
 

Teeja

On the Beach
There will be NO "red wave".

Everything and every "rule" that allowed them to steal the 2020 election is still in place TODAY. Only this time, they are MORE determined to wipe out patriots, and they've already honed their craft because they've learned from 2020.

We will look back at this time in history and think, "Why oh why didn't we ACT when we had the chance?".

Let's face it-- none of us here are willing to take up arms and put our lives on the line for this country and risk being sent to prison. And THAT is why our country is doomed.

We simply deserve everything that is coming...

This is the same pattern that repeats throughout history.
 
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dstraito

TB Fanatic
political persecution is the beginning of the end.


As the narrative starts slipping through their fingers they tighten their grasp, further exacerbating the situation. The tyranny will continue to increase until they either back down or the full blown revolution starts.

The odds are, they will not back down as I believe there are all in.

That does not leave the likelihood of a peaceful solution.
 

To-late

Membership Revoked
Now you get to see first hand and understand how Hitler took power in Germany.
Many have ask how the German people let it happen.
If you open you eyes and mind you can see.
So, now you get to ask Yourself.
why are we letting this happen?
why are we letting this happen?
 

vector7

Dot Collector
Gestapo tactics!
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Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
The chilling effect this whole mess is going to have upon the advice a POTUS can get from anyone in the future is going to look like the coming of the next ice age.

If the RNC does get the House and Senate in the next Congress and doesn't "do onto others" in kind×10 after this the cancer will only get worse.
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
It's call FISHING!! "THEY" are looking for anything and everything they could possibly use to knock Trump out of the race. Standby for even the janitors to be subpoenaed and searched. That's how desperate they are getting.
 

jward

passin' thru
Now you get to see first hand and understand how Hitler took power in Germany.
Many have ask how the German people let it happen.
If you open you eyes and mind you can see.
So, now you get to ask Yourself.
why are we letting this happen?
why are we letting this happen?
Welcome to my side o' the room. I've been pointing this out for months, only to have it labeled 'ugly truth telling' and be promptly ignored.

..but, we have some terrific snacks o'er here.. :D
 

jward

passin' thru
Well, now that we're further down the road your position is clearly borne out.
..at the time, a valid case could be made for not further rending the country, assuming as we once did, that she was defanged
I think back to Trump's comment to the effect that "Hillary had suffered enough".

That made many people mad, me included.

Any talk of "being above the fray" should be squashed by any means necessary.
 
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