Rebel_Yell
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An 18-year-old from Ohio was arrested Friday after being found with weapons and ammo in Times Square; CBS2's Andrea Grymes reports. R/T 2:18
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1gWG06vZUg
VIDEO 18-Year-Old Ohio Man Found With AK-47, Ammo In Times Square Subway Station
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Doomer Doug
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One mass shooting every single day until "they" get full gun control. We are now in a race between the Leftists implementing their Plan, and the economic, political and social system collapsing. also neck and neck with an honest to God shooting war with Russia, Iran and China.
How interesting. When the government decided to pivot to gun control, with media in full court press. Mass shootings start up. Also monkey werx seeing govt planes coincidently being in and out of the area’s impacted.
The people behind the screens calling the shots wants the US disarmed now. World events may be playing out faster than their initial master plan.
If the balloon goes up with Iran or Russia or Russia and China then the fascists will use the events to roll out the total consolidation of power. Maybe this is why the fences are still up not for whats happened but for how the people will feel for whats planned to happen.
The people behind the screens calling the shots wants the US disarmed now. World events may be playing out faster than their initial master plan.
If the balloon goes up with Iran or Russia or Russia and China then the fascists will use the events to roll out the total consolidation of power. Maybe this is why the fences are still up not for whats happened but for how the people will feel for whats planned to happen.
hunybee
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this actually raises a lot more questions.
he had no ammo actually loaded. he had it out and open at his feet in times square. i went to check for the need to have a permit for the ak-47, and it seems you do not need one just to purchase. the guy says he has a permit for the gun in ohio.
so far, i'm not really sure what wrong this guy has done yet. i mean, outside of being in new york with it. not really "wrong", but new york and many other states seem to not be paying attention to that old piece of paper though.
anyway, the bit about his father is a little bit of a wrinkle. i can IMAGINE what he was possibly doing or going to do with it, but he did not do it. one could say he only did not succeed in harming people because the police saw him with it (in times square, out in the open, not loaded, just sitting there), but this isn't minority report.
yet
but i am curious about the procuring of said ak-47. where did he get it? don't misunderstand me here. there should not be any infringement at all in regards to guns, but there is. since there is, and we are SUPPOSED to have some record of the entire thing, how did that come about? he said he had a permit. ok. so was this weapon procured in the legal fashion? is there a record of the transaction? where was it bought?
this just seems very......convenient, no?
he had no ammo actually loaded. he had it out and open at his feet in times square. i went to check for the need to have a permit for the ak-47, and it seems you do not need one just to purchase. the guy says he has a permit for the gun in ohio.
so far, i'm not really sure what wrong this guy has done yet. i mean, outside of being in new york with it. not really "wrong", but new york and many other states seem to not be paying attention to that old piece of paper though.
anyway, the bit about his father is a little bit of a wrinkle. i can IMAGINE what he was possibly doing or going to do with it, but he did not do it. one could say he only did not succeed in harming people because the police saw him with it (in times square, out in the open, not loaded, just sitting there), but this isn't minority report.
yet
but i am curious about the procuring of said ak-47. where did he get it? don't misunderstand me here. there should not be any infringement at all in regards to guns, but there is. since there is, and we are SUPPOSED to have some record of the entire thing, how did that come about? he said he had a permit. ok. so was this weapon procured in the legal fashion? is there a record of the transaction? where was it bought?
this just seems very......convenient, no?
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TKO
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THIS!
155 arty
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No need for a permit in ohio for that gun
hunybee
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bw
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They displayed it as being in a long box. If that's how he carried it, no one would have given it a second glance. Could have been a box of picture frames.
155 arty
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Well unless i have been here in Ohio since 1967 owned a gun shop and multiple class 3 weapons ..I have never heard of that
NoDandy
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Would be interesting to know what he was doing there, and why making a display of the AK.
I suspect he was trying to get attention, to claim cops or whoever complained were RASIS !!! If he does not get it back, and in NY, probably won't, it was a very expensive " trap " !
But he did not seem real bright. He was a mental midget.
Bet his momma say: He iz a gud boi n shit, luvs gesus n shit, gonna beez a dokter n shit. he dindu nuffin n shit.
Yall jus RASIS n shit.
I suspect he was trying to get attention, to claim cops or whoever complained were RASIS !!! If he does not get it back, and in NY, probably won't, it was a very expensive " trap " !
But he did not seem real bright. He was a mental midget.
Bet his momma say: He iz a gud boi n shit, luvs gesus n shit, gonna beez a dokter n shit. he dindu nuffin n shit.
Yall jus RASIS n shit.
bw
Fringe Ranger
We don't know he was displaying it. The video shows it strapped down in a box, and shows it lying on a table. Cops always lay weapons out for the news photogs. If he was carrying it in the box, it would be totally innocuous. I suspect it was a random stop by the cops and they opened the box. Since he was carrying the box openly, the ace journalists call it carrying the weapon openly.
You folks need to stop looking at this through the prism of your built-in “gun culture bias.”
AK WITH AMMO, AND IN GRAND CENTRAL STATION, is going to set off every alarm bell in NYC. It is NOT ALLOWED there. Just having it in NYC is a crime.
bw
Fringe Ranger
Understood. There's a lot of room for ambiguity here.
mzkitty
I give up.
First of all, his father was killed in a shoot out a month ago (see video above). So he's probably all distraught over that. Second, you can't wander around NYC with weapons like that. Kid was obviously freaked out. Who knows what he might have done. Did he have any business being in NYC?
hunybee
Veteran Member
yes, i understand that, but there are many questions that are raised in this. was it actually on display? was it in the box? if in the box, how did they know he had it? so many questions. the article doesn't go into details or even important pieces of information. i, again, lament what has become of journalism.
that aside, i know it is against the law in ny. it isn't supposed to be and shouldn't be, but it is. but then , i go back to the questions not answered part.
bw
Fringe Ranger
Granted it's illegal, having it there is a crime, no question. All kinds of cop adrenaline, and plays really well via the MSM. But there's not much here to indicate an actual threat.
hunybee
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yes, the video is less than crystal.
they say the weapon was out at his feet. this implies it was out on display. it could very well have been in the box. as bw says, lots of room for ambiguity.
bw
Fringe Ranger
Did you see how the weapon was zip-locked down, with one mag? No shooter would be carrying that light. I'll take a wild guess that this was his dad's gun, perhaps the one used in the shootout with the cops. In other words, the kid was carrying a relic of his father, not a weapon. Could be the kid was in a fugue state, which left him sitting blankly in a strange city.
Was he after the people that killed his father? Doesn't matter. He was collared in the commission of a crime in NYC. He's black so he is going to be treated with kid gloves until he gets to adult prison where his youth is going to play against him.
He is 18 and a wannabe bad ass. The question remains how did he get the gun? Who paid him to move it? Was he taking over his father's route? We can hypothesize all day long but without facts it is all hot air.
He is 18 and a wannabe bad ass. The question remains how did he get the gun? Who paid him to move it? Was he taking over his father's route? We can hypothesize all day long but without facts it is all hot air.
bw
Fringe Ranger
His father was killed in Columbus, Ohio.
2dollarbill
Veteran Member
News reports Lie by omission of facts. Why didn't they fact check the punk by stating Ohio requires no permit to purchase?
Why didn't they fact check, to state in NYC weapons like that and magazine size are illegal to posses?
Sure looks like a FBI false flag set up to me.
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Why didn't they fact check, to state in NYC weapons like that and magazine size are illegal to posses?
Sure looks like a FBI false flag set up to me.
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bw
Fringe Ranger
Doesn't matter to whom and in what scope? If you're talking NY law, it doesn't matter a bit, intent isn't an element, he's prima facie guilty, done and done. If you're talking criminal intent, this goes straight to the heart of it, the difference between being a homicidal perp and a lost kid. If you're talking about actual danger to bystanders, there's good reason to say there was no danger at all.
bw
Fringe Ranger
Shootout with cops attempting to stop him in traffic. Depending on how you lean, you can call it gang-related.
