PREP 100 Items to Disappear First

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FlyLadyFan

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I know this has been posted a gazillion times, but 1) seems tb is running slow (for me) and I could not get search to work, and 2) people looking for "answers" may stumble across tb today and should be rewarded for their awakening with some practical action steps.

http://www.thepowerhour.com/news/items_disappearfirst.htm

100 Items to Disappear First

1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.)
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)
6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice - Beans - Wheat
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,)
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking.
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item)
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)
32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
37. First aid kits
38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
41. Flour, yeast & salt
42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first
43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns
47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)
48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels)
49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
51. Fishing supplies/tools
52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
53. Duct Tape
54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
55. Candles
56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
58. Garden tools & supplies
59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
76. Reading glasses
77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
78. "Survival-in-a-Can"
79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog
81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
85. Lumber (all types)
86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's
88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
89. Lantern Hangers
90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
91. Teas
92. Coffee
93. Cigarettes
94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
95. Paraffin wax
96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
97. Chewing gum/candies
98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
100. Goats/chickens

From a Sarajevo War Survivor:
Experiencing horrible things that can happen in a war - death of parents and
friends, hunger and malnutrition, endless freezing cold, fear, sniper attacks.

1. Stockpiling helps. but you never no how long trouble will last, so locate
near renewable food sources.
2. Living near a well with a manual pump is like being in Eden.
3. After awhile, even gold can lose its luster. But there is no luxury in war
quite like toilet paper. Its surplus value is greater than gold's.
4. If you had to go without one utility, lose electricity - it's the easiest to
do without (unless you're in a very nice climate with no need for heat.)
5. Canned foods are awesome, especially if their contents are tasty without
heating. One of the best things to stockpile is canned gravy - it makes a lot of the dry unappetizing things you find to eat in war somewhat edible. Only needs enough heat to "warm", not to cook. It's cheap too, especially if you buy it in bulk.
6. Bring some books - escapist ones like romance or mysteries become more
valuable as the war continues. Sure, it's great to have a lot of survival
guides, but you'll figure most of that out on your own anyway - trust me, you'll have a lot of time on your hands.
7. The feeling that you're human can fade pretty fast. I can't tell you how many people I knew who would have traded a much needed meal for just a little bit of toothpaste, rouge, soap or cologne. Not much point in fighting if you have to lose your humanity. These things are morale-builders like nothing else.
8. Slow burning candles and matches, matches, matches

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Knell

Knell

Deceased
31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)

I have some powdered milk. We don't use condensed milk but it would be good for preps. How long will it last in the unopened cans?
 
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Nuthatch

Membership Revoked
Sweetened condensed milk is pretty true to the expiration date in my opinion. It turns brownish when it is old. Evaporated milk seems to last longer for me.

Consider getting some Parmalat in the shelf-stable containers (our Wal-Marts carry them for under $2). Or small cans of Table Cream. These often have Spanish on one side. It is basically cream. I use it in a pinch to cook with when I need cream.
 
tosca

tosca

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Great List!!

Thank you for sharing this with us.....I wish we knew how long things lasted; i.e., canned foods, canisters of propane for camping stoves, etc. Anybody have any ideas about how the items on the list stand up over time? Thanks, Mari Susan
 
mbabulldog

mbabulldog

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While I agree the topic material is critical, sheesh guys, how many times are we going to repost the original list? Use Search, and reference the original thread.

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=294433

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=288342

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=285495

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=281616

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=275856

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=266956

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=249968
 
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FlyLadyFan

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mbabulldog said:
While I agree the topic material is critical, sheesh guys, how many times are we going to repost the original list? Use Search, and reference the original thread . . .
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FlyLadyFan said:
I know this has been posted a gazillion times, but 1) seems tb is running slow (for me) and I could not get search to work, and 2) people looking for "answers" may stumble across tb today and should be rewarded for their awakening with some practical action steps.
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But thanks for the excuse to bump! ;)

FLF

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Knell

Knell

Deceased
I don't think it hurts anything for the list, etc. to be front page from time to time.
I know I need reminding of some preps and I'm sure I'm not the only one!
 
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Desertrat

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For long-term storage of canned goods: Store on side. Mark end with arrow. Rotate on some schedule; probably weekly. When you see an end just barely begin to bulge, heat it very hot and eat at that time. A tiny amount of bulge, apparently, won't hurt. But don't wait.

I had cousins interned by the Japs in Manila. They learned the hard way--but they survived.
 
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janecj333

Membership Revoked
Desertrat said:
For long-term storage of canned goods: Store on side. Mark end with arrow. Rotate on some schedule; probably weekly. When you see an end just barely begin to bulge, heat it very hot and eat at that time. A tiny amount of bulge, apparently, won't hurt. But don't wait.
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I would never eat the contents of any can that was bulging. The food inside bulging cans often does not look or smell any different from safe food, but botulism can't be killed by heating, nor can the toxins it produces be inactivated by boiling acc. to most ag extension websites.
 
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shane

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Bulging cans with botulism is worse than most think...

janecj333 said:
I would never eat the contents of any can that was bulging. The food inside bulging cans often does not look or smell any different from safe food, but botulism can't be killed by heating, nor can the toxins it produces be inactivated by boiling acc. to most ag extension websites.
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While bulging cans of food are relatively rare and most everybody knows
that any bulging can should be discarded, few know just how seriously
dangerous they truly can become if opened or accidentally ruptured.

Botulism is so extremely deadly, it must be suspect in all bulging cans
and needs to not only be discarded, but so no one else will get into it, too.

Botulinum toxin is the most lethal substance known to man, as seen here...
http://www.bt.cdc.gov/training/historyofbt/05botulism.asp

When food is in short supply some will begin buying and using whatever
old cans they can find and be eager then not to waste anything, too, thus
some will also be tempted then to open suspect bulging cans to better
inspect the contents before just rejecting it all, and usually by smelling it.

People need to know that even a single small whiff of Botulinum toxin,
especially when concentrated and released from a pressurized bulging can,
can kill you stone dead in a few paralyzing hours, it's truly that deadly.

Please tell all at every opportunity to never fool with any suspect cans
and to dispose of them as if a live grenade where none other will either.

- Shane
 
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Nuthatch

Membership Revoked
Dents are more tolerable than bulges, which discard immediately.

Now I am curious....do dehydrated or freeze-dried foods ever become vulnerable to botulism? Or is it just those with liquids? How about stuff in pouches (tuna/chili, etc.)? Do they bulge or become vulnerable to botulism?
 
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night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
AS long as they are processed DRY (Dehydrated or freeze dried) they pose no botulism risk.

POUCHES have the SAME risk as cans and they will "inflate" when they get bad.


the CREAM based soups are the MOST susceptible but ANY bulging can, actually any can that doesn't go SSss" and SUCK IN when you open it should be discarded.


(One of my college friends actually got THE pre-eminent coloidal chemist, Egon Matievic to say, ON TAPE and he KNEW he was being taped, "HEH HEH Vhat IS botulism? I don't know" in his Middle European accent..... Our radio station did a whole humor thing on botulism.... Matter of fact I THINK I still have my can of Campbels Cream of Botulism Soup,,,...said so right there on the label......OK ya hadda be a college student in the early 70's...)
 
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janecj333

Membership Revoked
shane said:
...Botulism is so extremely deadly, it must be suspect in all bulging cans
and needs to not only be discarded, but so no one else will get into it, too.

...People need to know that even a single small whiff of Botulinum toxin,
especially when concentrated and released from a pressurized bulging can,
can kill you...
- Shane
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Agreed. Never open a bulging can to test the contents.
 
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Fruitbowl

Contributing Member
FlyLadyFan said:
From a Sarajevo War Survivor:
Experiencing horrible things that can happen in a war - death of parents and
friends, hunger and malnutrition, endless freezing cold, fear, sniper attacks.

1. Stockpiling helps. but you never no how long trouble will last, so locate
near renewable food sources.
2. Living near a well with a manual pump is like being in Eden.
3. After awhile, even gold can lose its luster. But there is no luxury in war
quite like toilet paper. Its surplus value is greater than gold's.
4. If you had to go without one utility, lose electricity - it's the easiest to
do without (unless you're in a very nice climate with no need for heat.)
5. Canned foods are awesome, especially if their contents are tasty without
heating. One of the best things to stockpile is canned gravy - it makes a lot of the dry unappetizing things you find to eat in war somewhat edible. Only needs enough heat to "warm", not to cook. It's cheap too, especially if you buy it in bulk.
6. Bring some books - escapist ones like romance or mysteries become more
valuable as the war continues. Sure, it's great to have a lot of survival
guides, but you'll figure most of that out on your own anyway - trust me, you'll have a lot of time on your hands.
7. The feeling that you're human can fade pretty fast. I can't tell you how many people I knew who would have traded a much needed meal for just a little bit of toothpaste, rouge, soap or cologne. Not much point in fighting if you have to lose your humanity. These things are morale-builders like nothing else.
8. Slow burning candles and matches, matches, matches

.
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I must confess, I tend to think of this 'PREP' stuff with some amusement, being the type of person who thinks 'if we're going to die, we're going to die, and let's just make the most of now'...but reading something from a Sarajevo survivor really stirs the soul.

It still freaks me out, that here in Europe, we had a war like that, so recently.

Goes to prove that anything is possible.

Thanks for posting.
 
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