CORONA More deaths among vaccinated Americans not a reason to avoid vaccines, experts say

There is no 1500 deaths among athletes:

CLAIM: Two researchers found that more than 1,500 athletes have suffered cardiac arrest since COVID-19 vaccinations began, compared to a previous average of 29 athletes per year, suggesting the vaccines are causing a dramatic rise in such cardiac issues.

THE FACTS: The researchers cited a number from a blog that lists news stories about recent deaths and medical emergencies among people of all ages, from all over the world — some of which were attributed to other causes. Following Buffalo Bills safety Damar Hamlin’s cardiac arrest during a game Monday, social media posts and Fox News gave air to a long-circulating and faulty narrativethat COVID-19 vaccines are causing a dramatic increase in athlete deaths. “Cardiologist Peter McCullough and researcher Panagis Polykretis looked into this trend in Europe, European sports leagues. They found that prior to COVID and the COVID-19 vaccines there were roughly 29 cardiac arrests in those European sports leagues per year,” Fox’s Tucker Carlson claimed in a segment Tuesday. “Since the vax campaign began, there have been more than 1,500 total cardiac arrests in those leagues and two-thirds of those were fatal.” Carlson was in fact referencing a letter, not a rigorous study, that McCullough and Polykretis published in a Scandinavian journal in late 2022. And that letter simply cites the blog goodsciencing.com. The blog’s list is a compilation of news reports about recent deaths and medical emergencies, and it includes cases not reported to be spurred by cardiac arrest: Some deaths, for example, were reportedly from cancer. The list also includes incidents from around the world and among people of all ages — including some in their 70s and 80s — not just athletes in “European sports leagues,” as Carlson claimed. “It’s not real research,” Dr. Matthew Martinez, director of sports cardiology at Atlantic Health System in Morristown Medical Center, told the AP. “Anybody can write a letter to the editor and then quote an article that has no academic rigor.” Dr. Jonathan Kim, chief of sports cardiology at Emory University School of Medicine, similarly said of the blog post: “It’s just shocking to use that as a citation.” “It’s scientific garbage, you can’t just pull a bunch of media reports,” he added. The letter by McCullough and Polykretis goes on to compare the blog’s questionable “1,598” figure of recent incidents to a 2006 study that found 1,101 reports of sudden cardiac death in athletes over a 38-year period, or an average of 29 per year. That analysis, however, reviewed literature specifically for reports of sudden cardiac death among athletes under the age of 35. The study also noted that its findings were limited because cases were likely underestimated.” Dr. Neel Chokshi, medical director of Penn Medicine’s Sports Cardiology and Fitness Program, said it would be “inaccurate” to make conclusions by comparing the 2006 study and the blog’s figures. “The data presented here does not support the notion that vaccines have caused an increase in sudden death,” he said.

Ap news. Says it all
 

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Don’t you think that’s an important fact to be considered? Like, yes, it used to happen before Covid, but rarely. With Covid, maybe a little more. With vaxx, a lot more. Am I wrong? What does that point to?
1) is the incidence really more or are there multiple reports who are saying something happened that actually didn't? attributing the myriad of posts even in some of the threads on this forum have no context. Video of a guy falling on the field but no followup on if the person lived or not, what the ultimate cause was found to be, nothing. I suspect that yes there are more incidents of myocarditis/SCD now that there were in 2019 and before. The question is why?
2) Can vaccines cause myocarditis and some of these events? Sure. The strongest indicators were with the J&J and moderna vaccines in a narrow population subset of boys age 14 or so to 22 or so. Not a lot of good studies done on specific cohorts like that to identify/risk stratify dosing of the vaccine. Most studies don't differentiate between a 8 year old and a 40 year old--that dilutes the rates in the younger that should be addressed and overestimates the incidents in the older groups who derive more benefit from the vaccine. I'm not a huge fan of covid vaccination in pediatrics until that work is done. I didn't vaccinate my own kids. One decided to have it, the other didn't. I'm also in the camp with traditional childhood vaccines that they need to be spread out over a longer period of time and stop the multiple vaccinations at one time.
3) As the rate of people who have had Covid infection increase it becomes more difficult to determine if the longer term effects of infection are causal of a lot of the things that we see. Those typically aren't separated in the studies (do participants have serological testing to segregate COVID exposed vs naive) that would be needed to really see the risk of vaccine vs infection or co-infection. Thats a big frustration in medicine that most don't realize or frankly care about. We have to make decisions based on incomplete information all the time, and there is no decision that doesn't have consequences.
4) Its degraded from a scientific to a political discussion. Vaccine good vs Vaccine bad, largely split between political ideologies. The truth is likely somewhere in the middle like everything else. But that's not a discussion that can be had very often.
 

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BREAKING: Pfizer scientist Chris Croce was aware that their experimental mRNA "vaccine" was the likely cause for the myocarditis.

It's critical to know when this video was taken, because all he admits to is that they're concerned and taking steps to find out.

Google it. October 2021. And here we are > 1 year later giving it to children as young as 6 months old…
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View: https://twitter.com/Alana_K_Asby/status/1612480439708516355?s=20&t=uoxGQUKoXoZ20YYqDHpf8Q


Well, what happened with the samples they sent out?

That's a great question but I do know that a recent study showed all 835 subjects, all of whom had taken the vaccine, had troponin in their blood which could only be there from heart damage and myocarditis.
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1.- The #FauciFiles - Greg Rubini version [THREAD] On January 11, 2017, Fauci said: "Trump will face a Pandemic"

How did he know? Because it was Fauci who made the Virus. Covid19 is a BioWeapon. @elonmusk , @AlexBerenson , @RandPaul , @DC_Draino please Retweet!

...11. If Rudy @RudyGiuliani had taken action on my info, and informed Trump, Trump would still be in the White House today. In fact, without the Covid Pandemic excuse, there would not have been 69 Million mail-in ballots. And no Election Fraud (or much less).

...17. It is the CIA, FBI, DHS, the Pentagon who are protecting #Fauci and his minions. The CIA, FBI, DHS, and the Pentagon have been fully involved in the COVID19 Scam. Much more has to be said and written.

Here is the recording from that event:“There is only one thing we can predict with confidence: there is going to be something unpredictable that the administration will have to deal with”
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TammyinWI

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Did the COVID mRNA gene injection vaccine kill 21 year old healthy AIR FORCE ACADEMY OFFENSIVE LINESMAN HUNTER BROWN? Air Force offensive lineman Hunter Brown collapsed and died walking to class today​

Air Force offensive lineman Hunter Brown collapsed and died walking to class today. He was just 21 years old; oh shush keep it down now, voices carry, DON'T say that Dr. Alexander; DAMAR JJ Uche​


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This is very not normal and we must keep reporting on every one of these sudden deaths for it is a simple question, which is, how indeed does a 21-year-old die while just walking to class? We need autopsies in these cases. We cannot say definitively it was the vaccine yet if he was vaccinated, we need to know this for it will help us, and with autopsy, understand. It is imperative that this information be made public so that persons can make informed decisions.

I say it is highly likely that this is COVID gene injection vaccine related and yes, we need definitive information that an autopsy will aid us with.

This is very, very tragic!

 

BUBBAHOTEPT

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Saw it posted somewhere on here that they are working on mRNA flu shots. Can't vouch for the veracity of it.
Watch this video of Fauci et al. This televised discussion/meeting was at the end of October 2019. They damn well were planning to use mRNA shots for other illnesses like the flu. How do I know? I WATCHED AND HEARD THE F***ING WORDS COME OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS..… :smkd:
 

Samuel Adams

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Biden: "A vital part of preparing for hurricane season is to get vaccinated"

I’m betting same goes for bank runs, food shortages, inflation at the pump, rolling blackouts, political corruption and just plain having a bad (or good) day.

Whatever the occasion, always best to augment the moment with a kill or disfigurement Fyzer imposition.
 

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Um, warning: disturbing...men and boys, and you know who you- are if there was ever a great reason to avoid the vaxxes. . .

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‘My balls and nut sack exploded’: Clemson basketball guard Brevin Galloway details bizarre injury: ‘My balls exploded’; DON'T LAUGH AT THIS people, Nicki Minaj was 100% right; exploding balls VACCINE​

You thought Minaj was a lunatic, no, that term lunatic is reserved for Hotez, Fauci, Birx, Francis Collins, Njoo, Theresa Tam, Gupta, Baric, Bourla, Bancel, Hahn, Walensky et al.; Minaj was 100% right​


Clemson guard Brevin Galloway details bizarre injury: ‘My balls exploded’

 
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How ironic.

Wasn't it a prominent doctor / professor of medicine with Baylor University who was one of the first, and LOUDEST, voices speaking out on exactly WHY the vaccines were dangerous?

As I recall, he was going around the country giving speeches on it wherever he could--since social media and MSM very quickly de-platformed him, and Baylor distanced itself from him........
Who was that?
 
Credibility depends on the source of that data.
Approximation. Tyson/Fareed have, by now treated probably 10,000, losing a very few that did not get treated early. MyFreeDoctor was over 300,000 last I heard with 4 deaths, probably too late, but not sure. If early treatments had been officially accepted or at least not viciously vilified, and more doctors been encouraged/allowed to use them, most of those that died would not have. 80% is a number I have heard. Credible source? There’s the problem. Most of the public will never hear what we know, some will not believe it, because of the Unholy Trinity, Big Pharma, Big Tech, Big Media. That doesn’t change what the truth is.
 
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