Meemur
Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
I fear that you are correct, but I'm hopeful for a miracle.
POL He Is Nowhere Near 218': A Scenario Is Emerging That Ends With Kevin McCarthy Not Being Elected Speaker -UPDATE - McCarthy Elected As Speaker!
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night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Y'all'r not alone in that hope.
Buick Electra
TB2K Girls with Guns
10 pm??!!! CRAP!!! 
I've got pneumonia and just got done taking down my Christmas tree and decorations which darned near killed me. I doubt I'll be up at that time.
Thank you and God bless all those who stay up to report on this.
I've got pneumonia and just got done taking down my Christmas tree and decorations which darned near killed me. I doubt I'll be up at that time.Thank you and God bless all those who stay up to report on this.
All4liberty
Senior Member
You need to remove the condescending tone or your bumper sticker on your tag line. They don't really go together.
I can't help you mislabled Club for Growth as Club for Rome. There really is a Club for Rome and I did not understand why you thought they were apart of the club.
I was trying to understand your position and why you are hostile to the 20 and what they are attempting to do.
EMICT
Veteran Member
You sure it ain't Covid. If it was, that would boost you up four or five notches on the 'oh my gawd' scale here. Hope you get to feeling better no matter what the diagnosis.10 pm??!!! CRAP!!!
Thank you and God bless all those who stay up to report on this.
Buick Electra
TB2K Girls with Guns
The Babylon Bee on Gab: 'Nation In Shock As Politicians Show Up To Work 4 …'
The Babylon Bee on Gab: 'Nation In Shock As Politicians Show Up To Work 4 Days In A Row Link: https://babylonbee.com/news/nation-in-shock-as-politicians-show-up-to-work-4-days-in-a-row/'
Cacheman
Ultra MAGA!
Release the Deal..let’s see exactly what it says and what the commitments/obligations are….
View: https://twitter.com/KingsleyCortes/status/1611431971787505664
View: https://twitter.com/KingsleyCortes/status/1611431971787505664
Buick Electra
TB2K Girls with Guns
See video at link.
theconservativetreehouse.com
January 6, 2023 | Sundance | 28 Comments
Our dear friend Sharon always reminds us, “those whose motives are based on deception, will always find an audience wiling to be deceived.” That, my friends, is the current status of the republican party watchers and one of the primary reasons this little corner of the internet, The Last Refuge, was formed.
We accept things as they are, not as we would wish them to be and never as we would pretend them to be. Pretending is an endless quest akin to convincing. Those who operate in the world of political pretense expend an exhaustive amount of energy in constant vigilance against those who speak plain truths.
The House of Representatives has adjourned until 10pm tonight, when another vote will be taken, as outlined by the design of the Kevin McCarthy supporters.
Why adjourn? Why return at 10:00pm on a Friday evening? Simply, because the McCarthy team is counting on several House members (mostly Democrats) not being in attendance for the quorum, facilitating a lower threshold of the vote to achieve a majority.
435/434 members present = 218 votes needed
433/432 members present = 217 votes needed
431/430 members present = 216 votes needed
429/428 members present = 215 votes needed
etc.
(Washington DC) – […] McCarthy got an additional jolt of energy on the 13th ballot when Rep. Andy Harris (R-Md.), another previous opponent, also flipped to support him. He still fell short of the necessary majority of those voting present, however, with six GOP members remaining in the no camp.
Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.), a moderate and key McCarthy ally, said the chamber hoped to adjourn after the thirteenth ballot to allow allies of the California Republican to sit down one-on-one with his remaining dissenters. As to whether their opposition comes down to McCarthy himself, he said: “We’re gonna find that out.”
And lawmakers then followed suit, voting to adjourn the chamber until 10 p.m. That will tee up a potentially decisive ballot late Friday night.
McCarthy, speaking to the press, said he would have the votes needed for election when it came back into session. (more)
Video at 01:27:
"Liars Know How to Figure" - House Adjourns Until 10pm Tonight, When Next Speaker Vote Will be With Fewer House Members Present - The Last Refuge
Our dear friend Sharon always reminds us, “those whose motives are based on deception, will always find an audience wiling to be deceived.” That, my friends, is the current status of the republican party watchers and one of the primary reasons this little corner of the internet, The Last...
theconservativetreehouse.com
“Liars Know How to Figure” – House Adjourns Until 10pm Tonight, When Next Speaker Vote Will be With Fewer House Members Present
January 6, 2023 | Sundance | 28 Comments
Our dear friend Sharon always reminds us, “those whose motives are based on deception, will always find an audience wiling to be deceived.” That, my friends, is the current status of the republican party watchers and one of the primary reasons this little corner of the internet, The Last Refuge, was formed.
We accept things as they are, not as we would wish them to be and never as we would pretend them to be. Pretending is an endless quest akin to convincing. Those who operate in the world of political pretense expend an exhaustive amount of energy in constant vigilance against those who speak plain truths.
The House of Representatives has adjourned until 10pm tonight, when another vote will be taken, as outlined by the design of the Kevin McCarthy supporters.
Why adjourn? Why return at 10:00pm on a Friday evening? Simply, because the McCarthy team is counting on several House members (mostly Democrats) not being in attendance for the quorum, facilitating a lower threshold of the vote to achieve a majority.
435/434 members present = 218 votes needed
433/432 members present = 217 votes needed
431/430 members present = 216 votes needed
429/428 members present = 215 votes needed
etc.
(Washington DC) – […] McCarthy got an additional jolt of energy on the 13th ballot when Rep. Andy Harris (R-Md.), another previous opponent, also flipped to support him. He still fell short of the necessary majority of those voting present, however, with six GOP members remaining in the no camp.
Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.), a moderate and key McCarthy ally, said the chamber hoped to adjourn after the thirteenth ballot to allow allies of the California Republican to sit down one-on-one with his remaining dissenters. As to whether their opposition comes down to McCarthy himself, he said: “We’re gonna find that out.”
And lawmakers then followed suit, voting to adjourn the chamber until 10 p.m. That will tee up a potentially decisive ballot late Friday night.
McCarthy, speaking to the press, said he would have the votes needed for election when it came back into session. (more)
Video at 01:27:
Buick Electra
TB2K Girls with Guns
The HOLDOUTS, aka The Magnificent Seven, are:
Rep. Andy Biggs (Ariz.)
Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.)
Rep.-elect Eli Crane (Ariz.)
Rep. Matt Gaetz (Fla.)
Rep. Bob Good (Va.)
Rep. Andy Harris (Md.)
Rep. Matt Rosendale (Mont.)
Rep. Andy Biggs (Ariz.)
Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.)
Rep.-elect Eli Crane (Ariz.)
Rep. Matt Gaetz (Fla.)
Rep. Bob Good (Va.)
Rep. Andy Harris (Md.)
Rep. Matt Rosendale (Mont.)
Buick Electra
TB2K Girls with Guns
I’m all out of rage. Nuke it from orbit, it’s the only way.
theconservativetreehouse.com
"Liars Know How to Figure" - House Adjourns Until 10pm Tonight, When Next Speaker Vote Will be With Fewer House Members Present - The Last Refuge
Our dear friend Sharon always reminds us, “those whose motives are based on deception, will always find an audience wiling to be deceived.” That, my friends, is the current status of the republican party watchers and one of the primary reasons this little corner of the internet, The Last...
theconservativetreehouse.com
Melodi
Disaster Cat
A speaker who loses that many times and then resorts to trickery and manipulation, meeting late at night for a lower number of votes, does not bode well for his future leadership abilities. It is so slimy I can almost feel the stickiness from the other side of the Atlantic.
I am not staying until 3 am to watch this travesty, but that won't change anything. Before this all started, I confess not paying enough attention to the details of US politics these days to know anything about him. However, I have seen and heard enough in the last few days to view him as an untrustworthy piece of compromised and probably bought-off scum, not to mention an egotistical and entitled piece of garbage.
That doesn't have anything to do with his direct political views, how moderate or conservative he is, but rather the way he has acted using threats and revealing private conversations. Then more threats to get the position he feels entitled to have.
There is a huge difference between a real moderate willing to look at multiple sides of an issue before making a decision, and someone easily bought off and compromised for their own agendas.
I am not staying until 3 am to watch this travesty, but that won't change anything. Before this all started, I confess not paying enough attention to the details of US politics these days to know anything about him. However, I have seen and heard enough in the last few days to view him as an untrustworthy piece of compromised and probably bought-off scum, not to mention an egotistical and entitled piece of garbage.
That doesn't have anything to do with his direct political views, how moderate or conservative he is, but rather the way he has acted using threats and revealing private conversations. Then more threats to get the position he feels entitled to have.
There is a huge difference between a real moderate willing to look at multiple sides of an issue before making a decision, and someone easily bought off and compromised for their own agendas.
jward
passin' thru
Kevin McCarthy says he has votes to become US House Speaker
BBC News
U.S. House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) claps handsImage source, Reuters
Kevin McCarthy says he now has enough support to become Speaker of the US House of Representatives, amid the deepest congressional dysfunction in more than 150 years.
The front-runner is building momentum on day four of the impasse, but he has lost 13 rounds of ballots despite his Republicans holding a majority of seats.
Fifteen of 20 or so holdouts changed their vote on Friday to back him, but six diehard dissidents remain.
The House reconvenes on Friday night.
After the 13th vote, as the lower chamber of Congress adjourned until 22:00EST (03:00 GMT), Mr McCarthy told reporters: "I'll have the votes."
In a remarkable turnaround on the 12th round of voting, Mr McCarthy was able to persuade 14 Republican holdouts to cast their vote for him. A 15th rebel followed suit for the 13th ballot.
But the California congressman was still three votes short of the 217 he needed to take the prized gavel.
The dissidents included members of the House Freedom Caucus, who argue that Mr McCarthy is not conservative enough to lead them as they work to stymie Democratic President Joe Biden's agenda.
Congressman Scott Perry of Pennsylvania said on Twitter he was switching to support Mr McCarthy after voting 11 times against him.
"We're at a turning point," he said.
Two Republicans who missed votes earlier on Friday were flying back to Washington DC to cast their ballots for Mr McCarthy.
He has offered various concessions to the rebels, including a seat on the influential rules committee, which sets the terms for debate on legislation in the chamber.
He also agreed to lower the threshold for triggering a vote on whether to unseat the Speaker, to only one House member, leading to the possibility that the Republican coalition could easily fracture again even after Mr McCarthy's potential victory.
Meanwhile, the minority Democrats continued to vote in unison for their leader, New York's Hakeem Jeffries, the first black person ever to lead a party in Congress.
But it is highly unlikely he could win over any Republican defectors to garner the simple majority of votes in the 435-seat chamber needed to become Speaker.
Friday was the first day that Mr McCarthy's vote count actually surpassed that of Mr Jeffries.
Not since 1860, when the United States' union was fraying over the issue of slavery, has the lower chamber of Congress voted more than nine times to pick a speaker. Back then it took 44 rounds of ballots.
The Speaker of the House is second in line to the presidency after Vice-President Kamala Harris. They set the agenda in the House, and no legislative business can be conducted there without them.
In November, Republicans won the House by a slender margin of 222 to 212 in the chamber. Democrats retained control of the Senate.
More on this story
BBC News
U.S. House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) claps handsImage source, Reuters
Kevin McCarthy says he now has enough support to become Speaker of the US House of Representatives, amid the deepest congressional dysfunction in more than 150 years.
The front-runner is building momentum on day four of the impasse, but he has lost 13 rounds of ballots despite his Republicans holding a majority of seats.
Fifteen of 20 or so holdouts changed their vote on Friday to back him, but six diehard dissidents remain.
The House reconvenes on Friday night.
After the 13th vote, as the lower chamber of Congress adjourned until 22:00EST (03:00 GMT), Mr McCarthy told reporters: "I'll have the votes."
In a remarkable turnaround on the 12th round of voting, Mr McCarthy was able to persuade 14 Republican holdouts to cast their vote for him. A 15th rebel followed suit for the 13th ballot.
But the California congressman was still three votes short of the 217 he needed to take the prized gavel.
The dissidents included members of the House Freedom Caucus, who argue that Mr McCarthy is not conservative enough to lead them as they work to stymie Democratic President Joe Biden's agenda.
Congressman Scott Perry of Pennsylvania said on Twitter he was switching to support Mr McCarthy after voting 11 times against him.
"We're at a turning point," he said.
Two Republicans who missed votes earlier on Friday were flying back to Washington DC to cast their ballots for Mr McCarthy.
He has offered various concessions to the rebels, including a seat on the influential rules committee, which sets the terms for debate on legislation in the chamber.
He also agreed to lower the threshold for triggering a vote on whether to unseat the Speaker, to only one House member, leading to the possibility that the Republican coalition could easily fracture again even after Mr McCarthy's potential victory.
Meanwhile, the minority Democrats continued to vote in unison for their leader, New York's Hakeem Jeffries, the first black person ever to lead a party in Congress.
But it is highly unlikely he could win over any Republican defectors to garner the simple majority of votes in the 435-seat chamber needed to become Speaker.
Friday was the first day that Mr McCarthy's vote count actually surpassed that of Mr Jeffries.
Not since 1860, when the United States' union was fraying over the issue of slavery, has the lower chamber of Congress voted more than nine times to pick a speaker. Back then it took 44 rounds of ballots.
The Speaker of the House is second in line to the presidency after Vice-President Kamala Harris. They set the agenda in the House, and no legislative business can be conducted there without them.
In November, Republicans won the House by a slender margin of 222 to 212 in the chamber. Democrats retained control of the Senate.
Kevin McCarthy elected US House Speaker after 15 rounds of voting
The Republican is finally chosen after a week of chaos and angry scenes between colleagues in his own party.
www.bbc.com
Meemur
Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
Fake it until you make it?
jward
passin' thru
:: shrugs ::
energy_wave
Has No Life - Lives on TB
On vote #13 Trump becomes speaker of the house. Or is it vote #45.
John Green
Veteran Member
BBC calls it the deepest congressional dysfunction in more than 150 years. This is the process. Maybe some republicans should have made some challenges to the Speaker position in the past and things might be a bit better right now.
Standard politician; promise the moon and when you get your way, forget your promises and laugh at the fools who believed you.
Dobbin
Faithful Steed
Bannon (5pm today) says that McCarthy and Jeffries have probably "made a deal" where at least six Democrats will be "in absentia - which given a different "majority point" will require perhaps as little as 212 Repub votes to make McCarthy Speaker of the House.
"Oh, Democrat X and Y and Z and A and B all had to catch a flight home ahead of weather."
Yuh.
As Bannon says "This is how the Swamp works."
Meanwhile it puts McCarthy beholden to the "Swamp" - which is EXACTLY where they want him.
And one wonders what McCarthy had to give to the Democrats IN ADVANCE.
The unspoken word is "Pending Spending Limit Vote."
Dobbin
"Oh, Democrat X and Y and Z and A and B all had to catch a flight home ahead of weather."
Yuh.
As Bannon says "This is how the Swamp works."
Meanwhile it puts McCarthy beholden to the "Swamp" - which is EXACTLY where they want him.
And one wonders what McCarthy had to give to the Democrats IN ADVANCE.
The unspoken word is "Pending Spending Limit Vote."
Dobbin
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Scrod.
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
The strongest question I have is did he geek on single Member motion to replace the Speaker????
Actually, no, it is Club of Rome.
Buick Electra
TB2K Girls with Guns
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Mtsilverback
Veteran Member
Never place your "Hopes" in man.
Pray it!
Pray it!
Hawkgirl_70
Veteran Member
So, after listening to Steve Bannon, it appears this is about to be all over with.
As mentioned above, McCarthy has made a wink wink deal with Jeffries and several Dems won’t be able to make it to the vote tonight, thus lowering the number threshold McCarthy needs to be speaker. Then, once he’s in, all “these deals” will never happen. Even if Gaetz could wake the 14 up that switched sides today, to come back, I’m sure Jeffries will have the maximum needed amount to stay away.
This appears to be over. McCarthy and the RINOs will likely govern with a few D’s the next 2 years and the Freedom Caucus will stay neutered.
As mentioned above, McCarthy has made a wink wink deal with Jeffries and several Dems won’t be able to make it to the vote tonight, thus lowering the number threshold McCarthy needs to be speaker. Then, once he’s in, all “these deals” will never happen. Even if Gaetz could wake the 14 up that switched sides today, to come back, I’m sure Jeffries will have the maximum needed amount to stay away.
This appears to be over. McCarthy and the RINOs will likely govern with a few D’s the next 2 years and the Freedom Caucus will stay neutered.
Buick Electra
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medic38572
TB Fanatic
WASHINGTON, D.C. — The nation is in shock today following reports of representatives in Congress showing up to work for the 4th day in a row. Sources in Washington say this may be a new record, as most members of the House are used to showing up maybe once or twice per month while spending most of their time drinking cocktails with lobbyists and talking to CNN. Medical personnel has been dispatched to the Capitol Building to tend to any elderly reps in attendance, who aren't used to working this hard, while experts warn many of them may not last through today's grueling 5-hour workday.
The Babylon Bee on Gab: 'Nation In Shock As Politicians Show Up To Work 4 …'
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The House is expected to adjourn early today for the sake of any at-risk senior citizens.
Hognutz
Has No Life - Lives on TB
BooHoo! How will they ever sell our secrets?
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medic38572
TB Fanatic
What secrets? They have give away or sold or allowed everything to be given away...
Those "in shock" are the members of the MSM et al. The average person on the street would be hard pressed to even name their own Congress Critter let alone know what's going on or why....
Telescope Steve
Veteran Member
Take this with a grain of salt, but:
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Jenna Ellis
1h • 7 tweets • 1 min read
BREAKING: Source tells me the closed-room background why the 14 are now backing McCarthy.
THREAD The motion to vacate is key.
It’s a privilege motion (supersedes all other business except adjournment) that takes only one movant. If invoked, McCarthy would need a majority of 218 to STAY as Speaker.
This effectively neuters McCarthy. The original 20 have a pact that if McCarthy does anything outside his promises, they will vote to not retain and he’s gone.
The rest of the rules package would mark the first time HRC would have independent authority from leadership in over 60 years—good for accountability and the public.
Process requires the vote for speaker to happen first, member swearing-in, then rules package; however, if McCarthy tries to back out of any concession, he won’t have the votes for any rules package and we’re back to a stall. Congress can’t move without a rules package affirmed.
Source tells me the 10pm vote is likely going to see a consensus and McCarthy elected.
Bottom line: With this rules package, the 20 have achieved an historic accountability oversight and check on leadership and the Speaker’s power.
I would consider this a TOTAL WIN for Gaetz & Co, the MAGA movement, and therefore America.
Declare victory and let’s get to work!
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Thread Reader
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Jenna Ellis
1h • 7 tweets • 1 min read
BREAKING: Source tells me the closed-room background why the 14 are now backing McCarthy.
THREAD The motion to vacate is key.
It’s a privilege motion (supersedes all other business except adjournment) that takes only one movant. If invoked, McCarthy would need a majority of 218 to STAY as Speaker.
This effectively neuters McCarthy. The original 20 have a pact that if McCarthy does anything outside his promises, they will vote to not retain and he’s gone.
The rest of the rules package would mark the first time HRC would have independent authority from leadership in over 60 years—good for accountability and the public.
Process requires the vote for speaker to happen first, member swearing-in, then rules package; however, if McCarthy tries to back out of any concession, he won’t have the votes for any rules package and we’re back to a stall. Congress can’t move without a rules package affirmed.
Source tells me the 10pm vote is likely going to see a consensus and McCarthy elected.
Bottom line: With this rules package, the 20 have achieved an historic accountability oversight and check on leadership and the Speaker’s power.
I would consider this a TOTAL WIN for Gaetz & Co, the MAGA movement, and therefore America.
Declare victory and let’s get to work!
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CTFIREBATTCHIEF
Veteran Member
here we go, critters being gaveled into session.
thompson
Certa Bonum Certamen
Sherrynboo
Veteran Member
What a frigging clown show! I don't even know if I can watch this.