SOFT NEWS Drivers snowed-in all night as I-95 shuts down in Virginia

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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RUTHER GLEN, Va. (AP) — Hundreds of motorists were stranded all night in snow and freezing temperatures along a 50-mile stretch of Interstate 95 after a crash involving six tractor-trailers in Virginia, where authorities were struggling Tuesday to reach them.
Both directions of traffic on I-95 came to a standstill Monday between Ruther Glen, Virginia, in Caroline County and exit 152 in Dumfries, Prince William County, the Virginia Department of Transportation said. “Crews will start taking people off at any available interchange to get them,” the agency tweeted at 5:20 a.m. Tuesday.

Gov. Ralph Northam tweeted that his team responded through the night alongside state police, transportation and emergency management officials. “An emergency message is going to all stranded drivers connecting them to support, and the state is working with localities to open warming shelters as needed. While sunlight is expected to help @VaDOT clear the road, all Virginians should continue to avoid 1-95,” he added.

Crews were working to remove stopped trucks, plow snow, de-ice the roadway and guide stranded motorists to the nearest exits along the U.S. East Coast’s main north-south highway, the transportation agency said.

“We know many travelers have been stuck on Interstate 95 in our region for extraordinary periods of time over the past 24 hours, in some cases since Monday morning. This is unprecedented, and we continue to steadily move stopped trucks to make progress toward restoring lanes. In addition to clearing the trucks, we are treating for snow and several inches of ice that has accumulatd around them to ensure that when the lanes reopen, motorists can safely proceed to their destination,” said Marcie Parker, the agency’s Fredericksburg District engineer.
The tractor-trailer collision Monday afternoon caused no injuries, but brought traffic to a standstill, and it became impossible to move as the snow accumulated. Hours passed with hundreds of motorists posting increasingly desperate messages on social media about running out of fuel, food and water

Between 7 to 11 inches of snow accumulated in the area during Monday’s blizzard, according to the National Weather Service, and thousands of accidents and stranded vehicles were reported throughout central and northern Virginia. As of 3:30 p.m. Monday, Virginia State Police had responded to more than 2,000 calls for service due to treacherous road conditions, The Free Lance-Star in Fredericksburg reported.

Compounding the challenges, traffic cameras went offline as much of central Virginia lost power in the storm, VDOT said. More than 281,000 customers remained without electricity on Tuesday, according to poweroutage.us.
“I’ve never seen anything like it,” Emily Clementson, a truck driver, told NBC Washington. She urged stuck motorists to ask truck drivers if they have food or water to share, since many carry extra supplies in case they get stranded.

The agency tweeted to the stranded drivers on Monday that reinforcements were arriving from other states to help get them moving again.
“We wish we had a timetable, ETA or an educated guess on when travel will resume on I-95. It’s at a standstill in our area with multiple incidents,” the tweet read. “Its frustrating & scary. Please know our crews don’t stop. Crews will work 24/7 until ALL state-maintained roads are safe for travel.”

State police had warned people to avoid driving unless absolutely necessary, especially as evening and freezing temperatures set in.
“Due to the heavy snowfall concentrated in that area, road conditions rapidly turned treacherous for commercial and passenger vehicles,” state police reported in a press release. “VSP troopers, wreckers, and VDOT crews continue to work as quickly as the weather and roads will safely permit to get stuck vehicles cleared and traffic moving again on I-95.”

The stranded motorists included NBC News correspondent Josh Lederman, who spoke on NBC’s “Today” show on Tuesday via video feed from his car, with a dog in the back seat. He said he’d been stuck about 30 miles (48 kilometers) south of Washington, D.C., since 8 p.m. Monday.
“I don’t have any food or water. I have gas, but how long is that going to last?” Lederman said.

All night, it turned out. At around daybreak, VDOT announced that it was beginning to try to reach the stranded motorists.
“I think the word is dystopian,” Lederman said. “We started to see a lot of drivers turning their cars off to conserve gas, people running out of food and water, kids and pets holed up for so many hours, people letting their pets out of the car to try to walk them on the street. And in the meantime, no signs of any emergency vehicles that we could see. Now, you don’t know if that’s because they can’t get to where you are, but you really start to think if there was a medical emergency, someone that was out of gas and out of heat — you know it’s 26 degrees and there’s no way that anybody can get to you in this situation.”
 

Sacajawea

Has No Life - Lives on TB
You wouldn't be wrong ^ RB. Virginia, in the last 30 years or so I've been around here (less my stint at the beach) has gotten absolutely freaky terrified of snow/ice... and DOT just is poorly managed. The priority under the current gov has been SJW issues; and everyone forgets what it takes to maintain infrastructure.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
Yes, this is why they tell Iowa drivers, at least, to carry a winter survival kit, but twenty hours under those circumstances sounds like mis-management. Here, when they have to close the roads, the sheriffs and highway patrol officers go through and either direct the vehicles off the highway or pick up stranded drivers and take them into the nearest town. We have gates at all of the on-ramps along I-35 and I-80.

I've not heard of anyone being stranded on the actual freeway here for more than a few hours. I have heard of them being stranded off the highway in town for several days.

That said, there are just some days where no one can go anywhere. Some of the truckers will try, but they soon find that Mother Nature has the last word. This is why I generally don't plan anything I can't cancel during the winter. I don't care who makes fun of me! There are days that I either don't drive or don't go any farther than the local grocery store.
 

AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Raw live feed.

WATCH LIVE | NIGHTMARE ON 95: MASSIVE TRAFFIC JAMS CONTINUE IN VIRGINIA | FOX 5 DC

View: https://youtu.be/gPQa4K74cYs

Fox 5 DC has the best coverage. It's 1040am right now and it looks like ONE wrecker has pulled up to the tractor trailers that started this mess.
I took the day off today; our complex got plowed late last night but the idiots didn't put down ANY salt. I walked TBear this morning on a solid sheet of ice. He didn't care for it much.
DOT couldn't get enough snow plows onto 95; the snow started coming down right at the start of the usual Monday rush hour; around 530 am. I don't entirely blame VDOT; not enough plow drivers and the snow came quick and fast.
I sincerely !!!! hope they get 95 fixed/plowed today, guess where I have to go tomorrow. Yep, I've got to go to Richmond-down I-95........
 

AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Yuppers. And these people live there, they should know to winterize their vehicle with food, water, a sleeping bag, ect..

Not many people do that; but each car we drive does. I check the packs annually in November. One thing really nice about Virginia; you actually get 4 distinct seasons here. Winter can be either mild, bitterly cold but no snow; or like this year hammered by snow. I'm at home today and we have 2 4wd vehicles, the Blazer and the Suzuki. All our cars are dug out and ready to roll if needed.

But when something like this hits; the best course of action is the Georgia way............ stay at home, put another log on the fire or turn the thermostat up and enjoy the company of your missus and your dog.
 

AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I'll bet all of those drivers pay confiscatory motor fuel taxes and high licensing fees for their cars and trucks.

Looks to me like the Virginia Department Of Transportation is woefully unprepared.
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Licensing fees aren't that bad here. For the 97 Camry I bought Christmas eve, handicapped tags, title and registration for 2 years cost a total of $92.00. We do pay personal property tax on vehicles each year, it's sliding scale based on the age/cost of the vehicle.
We have all older but very well maintained vehicles, each one costs $33.00 for a year.
 
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psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Not many people do that; but each car we drive does. I check the packs annually in November. One thing really nice about Virginia; you actually get 4 distinct seasons here. Winter can be either mild, bitterly cold but no snow; or like this year hammered by snow. I'm at home today and we have 2 4wd vehicles, the Blazer and the Suzuki. All our cars are dug out and ready to roll if needed.

But when something like this hits; the best course of action is the Georgia way............ stay at home, put another log on the fire or turn the thermostat up and enjoy the company of your missus and your dog.

Exactly :)
 

Blizzard

Senior Member
Unbelievable. A nation of snowflakes! We've made too many trips between SC and NY/PA. It was an automatic function to check the weather for the entire route and plan accordingly. We made many trips in the dead of winter, in blizzards, in blinding rainstorms or in icing conditions. Food, water, 72-hour bag with seasonal clothing, tire chains, jumper cables, tow strap and emergency supplies are a given. Snow tires by Thanksgiving and off by the end of March. Even the dogs had their travel supplies.

My wife's comments as she left the table disgusted after watching the video: "We are so doomed as a country."

When our 20-something year old niece moved from her home on the coast of NC to Ann Arbor, Michigan, she asked me what she needed to carry in her car for winter. I provided our travel/vehicle checklist. She responded, "The only thing I don't have is an organized 72-hour bag." Then, later that day, she sent a picture of her bag with its well-organized contents as well as one of her trunk. She already had snow tires on separate rims. I was so proud of her.
 
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Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Yes, this is why they tell Iowa drivers, at least, to carry a winter survival kit, but twenty hours under those circumstances sounds like mis-management. Here, when they have to close the roads, the sheriffs and highway patrol officers go through and either direct the vehicles off the highway or pick up stranded drivers and take them into the nearest town. We have gates at all of the on-ramps along I-35 and I-80.

I've not heard of anyone being stranded on the actual freeway here for more than a few hours. I have heard of them being stranded off the highway in town for several days.

That said, there are just some days where no one can go anywhere. Some of the truckers will try, but they soon find that Mother Nature has the last word. This is why I generally don't plan anything I can't cancel during the winter. I don't care who makes fun of me! There are days that I either don't drive or don't go any farther than the local grocery store.

There was a great video series not so long ago called "Kevin in a Big Rig." It explored truckers and weather really well. Apparently trucking companies will shut down trucks for days at a time over weather if need be.

2 hours, 24 minutes, the complete Kevin in a Big Rig saga.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE0sxf-Fn9k
 

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
It pays to be prepared. Thank God we rarely get snow where I live, although the little bit we do get people go nuts.

All the years i lived in New Orleans I didn't have good rain gear. And I definitely didn't have rain boots, probably why I have at least 4 pair in different colors. I just can't stand to get my feet wet, so if its raining and I have to go somewhere I wear rain boots, even if its just predicted to rain.

One day it rained so hard and so much that the streets downtown were knee high in water. Fortunately I had stayed home that day and didn't have to deal with it. How many times did I have to go to lunch when it was raining and I got soaked and the rain stopped by the time I went back to work.

I'm so blessed to be retired.

God is good all the time

Judy
 

TxGal

Day by day
Good grief, we lived in Northern VA for gosh, like 55 years, this has happened with some frequency for the last 30+ years that I can recall - it's not unheard of. About 35 years ago or so my DBIL got stuck on 95 overnight. Fortunately he traveled frequently for business and always had extra clothes, blankets, food and water in his car and kept his gas tank topped up enroute. Others around him on the interstate were not so lucky, and he shared food and water when he could.

They should have called out the Guard, hard to believe they wouldn't. At least they could have gotten folks off the interstate with their heavier equipment and to some level of safety and warmth. I've read stories this morning of people leaving their cars on I95 and starting to walk on the interstate in the middle of the night...likely not dressed well enough for the weather and without food and water. This is unacceptable.
 

Trouble

Veteran Member
There was plenty of notice that this was coming, these putzs knew last week. Va has some of the dumbest assed, rudest drivers in this nation. 95 is a death trap of morons at speed. Zero sympathy for them. Bunch of oh the govt will take care of us types with a cell phone in one hand and Starbucks in the other with the cruise set at 90.
 

Bud in Fla

Veteran Member
BTDT - but living in WV we were prepared. We had to travel to Charlotte for my wife's biopsy which turned out OK. The expected storm came in hours sooner than anyone anticipated. We had topped off the gas tank in Wytheville, Va - 45 minutes from home. Black ice caused an 18 wheeler to jackknife between the tunnels and the party was over. We had blankets, food, water, a couple of 100 hr emergency candles add a little heat. Dog food & a water bowl for our boys that were with us. We were fine - the only reason we were stuck was all the 2 wheel drive vehicles had everything blocked. A lot of people were not in any way prepared for anything unforeseen but I doubt they learned anything from the experience.
We got 43 inches of snow in about 10 hours
 

GeorgiaBoy

Contributing Member
One thing I have not read anything about concerning this situation. I wonder out of all the cars stuck during this storm, how many of them were electric ones. I have read that the cold weather really eats up the battery life in normal conditions. I imagine stranded would drain them quicker; especially if you had to use the heater much. Just a thought. Hope everyone made it through the delay ok.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
One has to take personal responsibility for their own safety and well being. This was a well publicized storm and with the exception of some of the big rigs perhaps nobody should of been on the freeway except the cops. Stay at home and don’t go to work, if your at work stay there or try to find a motel, same for travelers trying to get home from the holidays. If you must go out have the shovels, jumper cables, extra gas and warm clothes for everyone in the vehicle. Not so concerned about food and water. If you can’t go 24 hours without eating you‘re a puss and I can scrape snow or ice off the vehicle or ground for hydration.

We have a similar storm forecasted for tonight and tomorrow and I have to go to work in the middle of it. This morning I loaded up with firewood and water for the cabin and pulled my truck out with a full tank if fuel and when I get home tonight the kit transfers from the Honda to the truck before the snow starts. With an arctic parka, mittens, hoodies and Mickey mouse boots I can hoof it home if I have to.

Hey, if a miracle happens and someone from the local, county or state government is there to bail your sorry rear end out all well and good but you better prepare that it all depends on you as it just might. Shake hands with Mr Murphy and his law a few times and if you don’t like pain you learn your lesson.
 

AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
There was plenty of notice that this was coming, these putzs knew last week. Va has some of the dumbest assed, rudest drivers in this nation. 95 is a death trap of morons at speed. Zero sympathy for them. Bunch of oh the govt will take care of us types with a cell phone in one hand and Starbucks in the other with the cruise set at 90.

VA does have bad drivers-but I'd take them over Maryland drivers any day of the week. They know two speeds-grandpa grandma slow or they're practicing for their next formula 1 race-with the cops chasing them.

The Woodrow Wilson bridge on the DC beltway yesterday had a 5-6 hour backup. MDDOT didn't plow their part of the beltway, didn't touch it- and people couldn't make it up the hill that starts once you get off the bridge. Many tried to take Indian Head highway but again, there was a 5-6 hour backup there because the road hadn't been plowed at all.
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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Soooo, wonder how the electric cars worked during this? Personally, I think I'd prefer a fossil fuel vehicle if I was going to be stuck on the highway for 24 hours. :cool:

IIRC, a gasoline vehicle will burn just under one gallon of gas per hour when idling.

Your average 120 volt electric space heater will draw 10 - 12 amps per hour. Drop down to 12 volts and the amperage will increase 10X for the same wattage output. Thus I suspect an electric car heater will draw a -lot- of electricity.

The big problem with an EV stuck on the freeway is when you need a recharge. A gallon gas can won't help.
 
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Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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VDOT spokeslady getting hammered by reporters.

She initially said they were unaware of any weather issues until midnight. Said VDOT was not aware of roads being blocked until 8:20 am today. The reporters went nuts.

VDOT had no answer why they didn't coordinate with the National Guard.

Reporters demanding an apology

LIVE

View: https://youtu.be/C5KLQ_Dt2S0
 

Slydersan

Veteran Member
Yuppers. And these people live there, they should know to winterize their vehicle with food, water, a sleeping bag, ect..

Yeah well, first snow fall of the year in the part of the country usually catches most people by surprise. The were stories on the local news of people going North from Florida, etc. getting stuck in that mess... in nothing more than shorts, t-shirts, and flip-flops. Now THAT is stupidity. I preached to my kids, like my grandparents did to me - "Dress for the walk home." (or at least have that clothing available.
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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Yeah well, first snow fall of the year in the part of the country usually catches most people by surprise. The were stories on the local news of people going North from Florida, etc. getting stuck in that mess... in nothing more than shorts, t-shirts, and flip-flops. Now THAT is stupidity. I preached to my kids, like my grandparents did to me - "Dress for the walk home." (or at least have that clothing available.
That must be a generational thing.
When I was growing up in Western Mass, no storm ever took us by surprise.
We got plenty of warning and people , as usual, mobbed the stores and wiped out the bread and milk.
Also, you carried sand (or kitty litter) in your trunk for getting unstuck.
 

Jackpine Savage

Veteran Member
I remember the 1991 Halloween blizzard in MN. They didn't get any chemicals down before hand. The early snow compacted into ice and it was like driving on a washboard road. It was at least a week before they were able to get the roads down to pavement again. They used graders with ice blades on them to shave it down.
 

Trouble

Veteran Member
VA does have bad drivers-but I'd take them over Maryland drivers any day of the week. They know two speeds-grandpa grandma slow or they're practicing for their next formula 1 race-with the cops chasing them.

The Woodrow Wilson bridge on the DC beltway yesterday had a 5-6 hour backup. MDDOT didn't plow their part of the beltway, didn't touch it- and people couldn't make it up the hill that starts once you get off the bridge. Many tried to take Indian Head highway but again, there was a 5-6 hour backup there because the road hadn't been plowed at all.
I agree md folks are idiots on the road. But nova drivers are real close. I stay as far away from the DC area as I can. Rarely do I cross the mountains to the east.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Yes, this is why they tell Iowa drivers, at least, to carry a winter survival kit, but twenty hours under those circumstances sounds like mis-management. Here, when they have to close the roads, the sheriffs and highway patrol officers go through and either direct the vehicles off the highway or pick up stranded drivers and take them into the nearest town. We have gates at all of the on-ramps along I-35 and I-80.

I've not heard of anyone being stranded on the actual freeway here for more than a few hours. I have heard of them being stranded off the highway in town for several days.

That said, there are just some days where no one can go anywhere. Some of the truckers will try, but they soon find that Mother Nature has the last word. This is why I generally don't plan anything I can't cancel during the winter. I don't care who makes fun of me! There are days that I either don't drive or don't go any farther than the local grocery store.

There are also gates on parts of Hwy 20 and Hwy 30. I was fascinated by all of these on off ramp gates when I moved here back in the early 90's, this was not a 'thing' in southern Illinois.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
When we lived in Sweden, I had just sort of taught Nightwolf how to drive on basic snow (I'd already stopped driving at that point, but my brief period of driving was in Colorado).

Anyway, there was a blizzard and his friend from Finland wanted him to come to visit about 60 miles away, Nightwolf didn't really listen to me about the danger (especially for a newbie snow driver) until I started "packing" for his trip the way I would go out in Colorado in such weather.

By the time I got the blankets, food packages, cat litter, extra clothing, warming packs, and was about to make several thermoses of hot tea and coffee he finally realized how serious I was and called his friend and said: "My wife wants me to stay home," (lol).

I later learned that in Sweden the main highways are heated, which is how the country keeps moving but in serious storms, they can still sometimes bog down (accidents and the like), and also the side roads are not heated - so you can get to another city or town, but possibly not actually get off the freeway to enter it.

Seriously, this sounds like the local authorities were so busy "war gaming" things like COVID lockdowns they forgot to make plans to do things like salt or prepare the roads and have the national guard on stand by during blizzard conditions.

People also need to take some responsibility for themselves but 24 hours is a long time to be in a freezing car, especially if the gasoline runs out.
 

Shotsie

Contributing Member
Here in central Virginia our temperatures were around 70 degrees Sunday morning and then dropped drastically by nightfall. On the 6:00 Sunday night news the weather forecaster started calling for a system starting as rain with the chance of a snowfall beginning after 1:00 AM Monday of possibly 3-4 inches with pockets of 6-7 inches in areas where there could be heavy burst of snow for a period of time between Sunday night and Monday. I checked noaa.gov before I went to bed and their forecast was calling for rain and then 1-2 inches Sunday night with another 3-7 on Monday. Where I live we never got the rain but ended up with 12 inches of very heavy wet snow that has rested heavily on the trees and brought so many power lines down. Trees are down all over the area. Over 48% of my county is still without power today and I think it is going to be some time before they get all of the power back on because of all the downed trees. We lost our power yesterday at around 10:30 am and I know it will be out for some time because we are “at the end of the line.” We are in good shape though because we have a generator and a wood stove. It has been surprising to many that we go from temperatures in the upper 60’s and low 70’s for over a week and then end up with this mess over night. Some I talked to and tried to warn Sunday night to get prepared said it wouldn’t lay because it had been too warm and the ground was too warm are eating their words now. I do feel sorry for the people who were caught on I95 as many of them were traveling from other states and didn’t know what they were driving into. I always keep a winter prep kit with blankets, hand/foot warmers, snacks, and water in my car just in case of an emergency like this. Have never had to use it, and hope I never do.
 
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