RACE WAR Salvation Army wants white donors to offer a "sincere apology" for their racism

TammyinWI said:

In this case, the guide “Let’s Talk About Racism,” was issued as a voluntary resource, but it has since become a focus of controversy. We have done our best to provide accurate information, but unfortunately, some have chosen to ignore those efforts. At the same time, International Headquarters realized that certain aspects of the guide may need to be clarified.
Consequently, for both reasons, the International Social Justice Commission has now withdrawn the guide for appropriate review.

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Well, well, well, just like the Smithsonian's AfroAmerican museum's handout on “Whiteness” that had to be pulled. You lost me at INTERNATIONAL SOCIAL JUSTICE COMMISSION there Salvation Army. Stick a fork in it…

One more thing, there are so many good organizations to help aid people. In fact, you’ll run out of money long before you donate to all of them…

If there is one thing I cannot stand is this, white people trying to make other white people Apologize for racism.

As a mixed race person, I cannot tell you how patronizing it is to us who are not all white, that white bleeding heart liberals and such, trying to make others apologize for racism when All Races Practice Racism.

It just shows how ignorant and naive those two in the above article really are.

So,F*ck'em.

They USED TO BE one of the few I actually gave to.

NO MORE. V

Well there goes their donations for this year.

Sammy55 said:

I couldn't find anything that says they are reconsidering their position. Is there a direct link to that position comment? TYIA!

If they just stuck with what their guidelines say - that they provide help to people no matter their race, religion, sex, etc. - they would be fine. They don't need to come out as "judges" on the white people, accusing them of being "racist." If we were "racist," we wouldn't give donations to groups like the Salvation Army that help everyone, no matter what their race is.

Is the Salvation Army now going to come out and judge Christians, accuse us of being "religionist"? And tell us that we should apologize for our Christianity? That we don't think enough of people who are jewish or buddhist or......?

People all bleed red blood. What's inside a person doesn't take any definition from the color of their skin or their religion or their sex or their "claimed sex" or anything else. People are people. That's all they have to say. And that's how most donors think. They give to help people in need.

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Well no wonder you couldn't find it. I looked up a local citadel. Clicked on the link to response and copied said link to here. You don't see the response at that link. Grrrrr!! See post 270 for what I was attempting to show.

WalknTrot said:

It's gonna hurt 'em. They will find out that it's conservatives who were their biggest donor demographic.

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Go woke, get broke!

All ready walked past bellringers

vessie said:

If there is one thing I cannot stand is this, white people trying to make other white people Apologize for racism.

As a mixed race person, I cannot tell you how patronizing it is to us who are not all white, that white bleeding heart liberals and such, trying to make others apologize for racism when All Races Practice Racism.

It just shows how ignorant and naive those two in the above article really are.

So,F*ck'em.

They USED TO BE one of the few I actually gave to.

NO MORE. V

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As a half white also, well said! It is damned patronizing!

S A can wish in one hand, and $hit in the other. They can see which one fills up first !

SA =

Seeing as they came out with the original statement months ago and are just now trying to somewhat change their tune, I would guess that this situation has already started to hit the pocketbook. I know in our area, they are in the news looking for bell ringers. So that means, their donations are down.

I would dearly love to know "who" are the people that they are blaming for their "racist apologies" narrative? Someone on the inside or the outside? But the original article had SallyAnn people who were interviewed, and the fact that they are pushing that racism guidebook makes me think that maybe some of the top brass have been pushing? If they were, then everyone else went along with it, so they all deserve what they are and will get.

Not going to change my opinion and actions. Not supporting them any more.

The SA is now in my rear view mirror. I've moved on.

packyderms_wife said:

As a half white also, well said! It is damned patronizing!

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I solved the racial issue many years ago: I hate all people equally ;-)

Best
Doc

TammyinWI said:

The truth is that The Salvation Army believes that racism is fundamentally incompatible with Christianity

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But not BLACK racism. Pretty weak sauce, folks.

TammyinWI said:
The truth is that The Salvation Army believes that racism is fundamentally incompatible with Christianity

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It is.

So, why are they singling out the white demographic? Where is the outrage over the slavery and slaughter of Christians that continues, right now?!?!

Screw the SA. I'll never give another penny.

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Yesterday I got mail from the SA wanting a donation. LOL It will be going back tomorrow in the mail with no money and no apology. And with some of my comments and to me, that will be worth the cost of a stamp.

Doc1 said:

I solved the racial issue many years ago: I hate all people equally ;-)

Best
Doc

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I can't disagree!

It seems they have withdrawn this "internal guidance" for review

Print these off and be generous with the bell ringers!

It’s probably important to note, from their website, top “Learn how you can help” items, top left to right, “Holiday Giving”, “LGBTQ Support”, “Commitment to Diversity” being the top items followed by “Disaster Relief” and at least on my iPad, “Homeless Shelters” is the leftmost item on row 2.

Presumably, these are their priorities.

mattbert

Getting an apology out of me will be harder than sticking butter up a wildcat's ass with a hot ice pick.

Took them quite a while to try and walk this back.

I decided long ago that all my charity donations are going locally. Local church, local shelter, local food bank, local veteran's organization, animal rescue, non-government orphanage, etc. Doesn't have to be MY church or an organization I particularly like as long as they are doing good with the donations.

Everyone here should know people that could use our donations. We don't need national organizations to pass the money through. Keep it local.

Sportsman said:

Took them quite a while to try and walk this back.

I decided long ago that all my charity donations are going locally. Local church, local shelter, local food bank, local veteran's organization, animal rescue, non-government orphanage, etc. Doesn't have to be MY church or an organization I particularly like as long as they are doing good with the donations.

Everyone here should know people that could use our donations. We don't need national organizations to pass the money through. Keep it local.

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Do you take the receipts? I struggled with that for a while wondering if I was losing my reward in heaven by taking the tax advantages, but then I figured clawing back cash from a corrupt government while also doing good was a good plan.

Blacknarwhal said:

Do you take the receipts? I struggled with that for a while wondering if I was losing my reward in heaven by taking the tax advantages, but then I figured clawing back cash from a corrupt government while also doing good was a good plan.

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I have always donated anonymously. Figure the befouled gov't does not come between me and my God or me and my conscience. And I am not seeking rewards by donating - from anybody...even God. I think he probably gets it.

Blacknarwhal said:

Do you take the receipts? I struggled with that for a while wondering if I was losing my reward in heaven by taking the tax advantages, but then I figured clawing back cash from a corrupt government while also doing good was a good plan.

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Personally, I think it has more to do with motivation. Are you giving to get?

That can be in a lot of different areas, giving to get, and see it practiced/preached in lots of denom's.

However in your case, meaning not a denom thing, but personal. If you are giving to GET a tax deduction, then spiritually it doesn't benefit you one bit. Even though it will benefit the needy.

If you give in spite of getting a tax deduction, go for it.

IMHO

CaryC said:

Personally, I think it has more to do with motivation. Are you giving to get?

That can be in a lot of different areas, giving to get, and see it practiced/preached in lots of denom's.

However in your case, meaning not a denom thing, but personal. If you are giving to GET a tax deduction, then spiritually it doesn't benefit you one bit. Even though it will benefit the needy.

If you give in spite of getting a tax deduction, go for it.

IMHO

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All good points. Life has a distressing amount of gray areas, doesn't it?

Blacknarwhal said:

Do you take the receipts?

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Not usually.

Teddy Roosevelt: "No Room in This Country for Hyphenated Americans"


“There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all.”“This is just as true of the man who puts “native” before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen. Americanism is a matter of the spirit and of the soul. Our allegiance must be purely to the United States. We must unsparingly condemn any man who holds any other allegiance.”“But if he is heartily and singly loyal to this Republic, then no matter where he was born, he is just as good an American as any one else.”

“The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English- Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian- Americans, or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality than with the other citizens of the American Republic.”

“The men who do not become Americans and nothing else are hyphenated Americans; and there ought to be no room for them in this country. The man who calls himself an American citizen and who yet shows by his actions that he is primarily the citizen of a foreign land, plays a thoroughly mischievous part in the life of our body politic. He has no place here; and the sooner he returns to the land to which he feels his real heart-allegiance, the better it will be for every good American.”

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Salvation Army Unrings Bell, No Longer Asking White People To Deliver 'Sincere' Apologies For Their Race

by Tyler Durden
Monday, Nov 29, 2021 - 03:30 PM
After significant donor backlash, the Salvation Army has withdrawn its "Let's Talk About Racism" guide which asked white supporters to deliver "sincere" apologies for their race and the 'sins of racism.'

The guide, released in April and created by the SA's Social Justice Commission, reads:

"While many Salvationists have acted firmly and courageously against racism, The Salvation Army acknowledges with regret, that Salvationists have sometimes shared in the sins of racism and conformed to economic, organizational and social pressures that perpetuate racism," adding that Christians need to "evaluate" racist attitudes and practices.

"And as we engage in conversations about race and racism, we must keep in mind that sincere repentance and apologies are necessary if we want to move towards racial reconciliation. We recognize that it is a profound challenge to sit on the hot seat and listen with an open heart to the hurt and anger of the wounded. Yet, we are all hardwired to desire justice and fairness, so the need to receive a sincere apology is necessary."

The guide also says "White culture" has challenges it needs to overcome - which include "denial of racism," and "defensiveness about race." It adds that white Americans need to "stop trying to be colorblind."

Now, in a statement titled "The Salvation Army's Response to False Claims on the Topic of Racism," the organization now says the guide wasn't meant to tell anyone "how to think," and has withdrawn the guide for "appropriate review" according to Just the News.

"The Salvation Army occasionally publishes internal study guides on various complex topics to help foster positive conversations and grace-filled reflection among Salvationists. By openly discussing these issues, we always hope to encourage the development of a more thoughtful organization that is better positioned to support those in need. But no one is being told how to think. Period.
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We have done our best to provide accurate information, but unfortunately, some have chosen to ignore those efforts. At the same time, International Headquarters realized that certain aspects of the guide may need to be clarified.
Consequently, for both reasons, the International Social Justice Commission has now withdrawn the guide for appropriate review."

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The Salvation Army has denied suggesting that the US is inherently racist and maintains it didn't tell people to apologize for 'being white.'

WTSR said:

Lumps of coal in the kettles this year instead of gold?

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The way things are going, we’re gonna need that coal for power generation.

Rebel_Yell said:

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Salvation Army Unrings Bell, No Longer Asking White People To Deliver 'Sincere' Apologies For Their Race

by Tyler Durden
Monday, Nov 29, 2021 - 03:30 PM
After significant donor backlash, the Salvation Army has withdrawn its "Let's Talk About Racism" guide which asked white supporters to deliver "sincere" apologies for their race and the 'sins of racism.'

The guide, released in April and created by the SA's Social Justice Commission, reads:

"While many Salvationists have acted firmly and courageously against racism, The Salvation Army acknowledges with regret, that Salvationists have sometimes shared in the sins of racism and conformed to economic, organizational and social pressures that perpetuate racism," adding that Christians need to "evaluate" racist attitudes and practices.

"And as we engage in conversations about race and racism, we must keep in mind that sincere repentance and apologies are necessary if we want to move towards racial reconciliation. We recognize that it is a profound challenge to sit on the hot seat and listen with an open heart to the hurt and anger of the wounded. Yet, we are all hardwired to desire justice and fairness, so the need to receive a sincere apology is necessary."

The guide also says "White culture" has challenges it needs to overcome - which include "denial of racism," and "defensiveness about race." It adds that white Americans need to "stop trying to be colorblind."

Now, in a statement titled "The Salvation Army's Response to False Claims on the Topic of Racism," the organization now says the guide wasn't meant to tell anyone "how to think," a
nd has withdrawn the guide for "appropriate review" according to Just the News.


The Salvation Army has denied suggesting that the US is inherently racist and maintains it didn't tell people to apologize for 'being white.'

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Way to late. My ex'es pulled that kind of ship with me.

Way to late, by, by SA. Hope the foundation now goes broke.

Commentary: The Salvation Army Hides Woke Policies During Christmas Fundraising

Rather than admit their woke policies are not supported by donors or staff, the leadership of The Salvation Army hides these policies from the public. Salvation Army captains tell me, however, that mandatory “diversity” training and calls to repent for racism are still very much integral to TSA internal policies.

I am president of Color Us United, an organization created to stand up for the individual dignity of ordinary Americans against abusive woke policies. Several months ago Color Us United learned that the Salvation Army had gone woke by imposing a curriculum that asks members to “repent for racism.“ We have called them out publicly on this and even met with their National Commander. Instead of addressing the policies that the majority of their members and donors do not support, however, the Salvation Army has hidden its woke materials.

The Salvation Army’s “Let’s Talk About Racism” curriculum endorses books such as Ibram X. Kendi’s How to Be An Antiracist and Robin DiAngelo’s White Fragility. It calls on “White culture” to quit denying racism and admit its responsibility for racism. It calls upon whites to quit trying to be colorblind on race.

It even asks its own members to “repent” for “racism.”

The organization’s members and supporters will not stand for these sorts of policies infiltrating the Salvation Army. I went up to national headquarters in Alexandria, Virginia, to negotiate with the National Commander of the Salvation Army, Kenneth Hodder. Commander Hodder was a very nice and generous person and a gracious host. He refused, however, to release a statement denouncing critical race theory and rid the Salvation Army of wokeness within its curricular materials. That was the purpose of our meeting, so we have to work harder to convince him of the widespread dissatisfaction with the Army’s woke policies.

Then, on October 29, I heard from a Salvation Army captain that the Army had quietly removed its “Let’s Talk About Racism” materials from its website. I figured this was the result of meeting with the National Commander. The Commander will not denounce critical race theory—yet he is worried enough about its impact on fundraising that he’s willing to take it down from the public website.

Don’t worry, we have all the original materials which are circulating throughout the Salvation Army’s ecosystem here.

The Salvation Army in the United States funds 60 percent of the Salvation Army worldwide. Likewise, I have discovered that 60 percent of the people the Salvation Army helps within the United States are racial minorities. The Army’s members are the least racist people in an extraordinarily generous and raceblind country. Yet, the Salvation Army throws them and ordinary Americans under the bus for the sake of wokeness.

The Salvation Army has also been conducting mandatory diversity training for its officers. In these sessions, the content of the “Let’s Talk About Racism” curriculum is still preached. The same authors cited above instruct officers about how America is racist and why we should be dividing people by race.

To force woke ideology down employees’ throats, the Salvation Army has just recently hired two new “Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion” (DEI) directors. These directors have the power to veto any curriculum or guidance the Salvation Army issues for not being DEI compliant, according to a Salvation Army officer. This woke “guidance” will be mandated to the Salvation Army’s 60,000+ officers around the world, according to one Salvation Army officer.

As a result of learning about this descent into wokeness through Color Us United’s nationwide petition, which has gotten 11,000+ signatures, hundreds of donors have decided not to give to the Salvation Army this fundraising season. Many have outlined their reasons for us, including:

“Race has no place in charity work.” – Penny

“I donated a car to them in 2019 and I will not do so again unless they stop CRT in their organization. – Esther

The Salvation Army’s traditional fundraising season is in November and December before Christmas, and it is apparent the Army is alarmed that their descent into wokeness will affect their fundraising. Yet, it hides its woke policies instead of addressing the fact that its members and supporters do not want them.

Color Us United is an organization that wages institutional guerilla warfare against organizations that have gone woke.

Sicario said:

Commentary: The Salvation Army Hides Woke Policies During Christmas Fundraising

Commentary: The Salvation Army Hides Woke Policies During Christmas Fundraising | The Ohio Star

November 29, 2021 | Rather than admit their woke policies are not supported by donors or staff, the leadership of The Salvation Army hides these policies from the public. Salvation Army captains tell me, however, that mandatory “diversity” training and calls to repent for racism are still very...

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Rather than admit their woke policies are not supported by donors or staff, the leadership of The Salvation Army hides these policies from the public. Salvation Army captains tell me, however, that mandatory “diversity” training and calls to repent for racism are still very much integral to TSA internal policies.

I am president of Color Us United, an organization created to stand up for the individual dignity of ordinary Americans against abusive woke policies. Several months ago Color Us United learned that the Salvation Army had gone woke by imposing a curriculum that asks members to “repent for racism.“ We have called them out publicly on this and even met with their National Commander. Instead of addressing the policies that the majority of their members and donors do not support, however, the Salvation Army has hidden its woke materials.

The Salvation Army’s “Let’s Talk About Racism” curriculum endorses books such as Ibram X. Kendi’s How to Be An Antiracist and Robin DiAngelo’s White Fragility. It calls on “White culture” to quit denying racism and admit its responsibility for racism. It calls upon whites to quit trying to be colorblind on race.

It even asks its own members to “repent” for “racism.”

The organization’s members and supporters will not stand for these sorts of policies infiltrating the Salvation Army. I went up to national headquarters in Alexandria, Virginia, to negotiate with the National Commander of the Salvation Army, Kenneth Hodder. Commander Hodder was a very nice and generous person and a gracious host. He refused, however, to release a statement denouncing critical race theory and rid the Salvation Army of wokeness within its curricular materials. That was the purpose of our meeting, so we have to work harder to convince him of the widespread dissatisfaction with the Army’s woke policies.

Then, on October 29, I heard from a Salvation Army captain that the Army had quietly removed its “Let’s Talk About Racism” materials from its website. I figured this was the result of meeting with the National Commander. The Commander will not denounce critical race theory—yet he is worried enough about its impact on fundraising that he’s willing to take it down from the public website.

Don’t worry, we have all the original materials which are circulating throughout the Salvation Army’s ecosystem here.

The Salvation Army in the United States funds 60 percent of the Salvation Army worldwide. Likewise, I have discovered that 60 percent of the people the Salvation Army helps within the United States are racial minorities. The Army’s members are the least racist people in an extraordinarily generous and raceblind country. Yet, the Salvation Army throws them and ordinary Americans under the bus for the sake of wokeness.

The Salvation Army has also been conducting mandatory diversity training for its officers. In these sessions, the content of the “Let’s Talk About Racism” curriculum is still preached. The same authors cited above instruct officers about how America is racist and why we should be dividing people by race.

To force woke ideology down employees’ throats, the Salvation Army has just recently hired two new “Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion” (DEI) directors. These directors have the power to veto any curriculum or guidance the Salvation Army issues for not being DEI compliant, according to a Salvation Army officer. This woke “guidance” will be mandated to the Salvation Army’s 60,000+ officers around the world, according to one Salvation Army officer.

As a result of learning about this descent into wokeness through Color Us United’s nationwide petition, which has gotten 11,000+ signatures, hundreds of donors have decided not to give to the Salvation Army this fundraising season. Many have outlined their reasons for us, including:

“Race has no place in charity work.” – Penny

“I donated a car to them in 2019 and I will not do so again unless they stop CRT in their organization. – Esther

The Salvation Army’s traditional fundraising season is in November and December before Christmas, and it is apparent the Army is alarmed that their descent into wokeness will affect their fundraising. Yet, it hides its woke policies instead of addressing the fact that its members and supporters do not want them.

Color Us United is an organization that wages institutional guerilla warfare against organizations that have gone woke.

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F'em

Gateway pundit Just published an article about them removing the racism guide. But is seems that it is being done in a still very defiant tone. The Salvation army is not sorry about it in the least. I would post a link but it seems dangerous here to post links if I am not willing to post the entire article. Too bad for everyone.

Last year, my wife found a real good works charity that she can actively support. She crochets scarves for men or women who seek help at the local Street Help operation. She buys new woolen mittens and matches them colour-wise to her knitted scarves. Every few weeks, she drops off several matches sets. This makes both of us very happy.
It's all local, too, which I see is important to many here.

Rebel_Yell said:

Salvation Army Unrings Bell, No Longer Asking White People To Deliver 'Sincere' Apologies For Their Race

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I was going to say, "Money talks, bullshit walks", but it seems after reading the post from Sicario that instead of learning from their mistake and repenting of it, they're choosing to hide what they're doing. Really poor optics for a purportedly Christian organization to do so. Makes them much worse in my eyes, and it genuinely pains me to say so.

Briebart has a story about The Salvation Army and its attempt to walk back its new policy. too little and too late. I think they got outted, burned and tried to do some serious spin control as they became aware of the devastating negative impact this racist drivel had on their fund raising. Well, fool me once, shame on you, but fool me twice, shame on me. I will take my money elsewhere. Go woke, and go broke!


Salvation Army Withdraws Controversial Guide, Which Urged Donors to ‘Repent’ for Racism

The Salvation Army’s International Social Justice Commission has withdrawn a controversial guidance on race, which urged donors to offer a “sincere apology” and ask for forgiveness for white supremacy and white-dominated culture after its contents went viral. However, despite originally issuing the guidance, which urged donors to “lament, repent and apologize for biases or racist ideologies held and actions committed,” the charitable organization denies the word-for-word reports on the contents of the guide, describing them as “simply false.”

In a November 25 update titled, “The Salvation Army’s Response to False Claims on the Topic of Racism,” The Salvation Army reiterated that its primary goal is to “preach the gospel of Jesus Christ and meet human needs in His name without discrimination.”

“The beliefs that motivate our service are based solely on the Bible, and that will never change,” the organization said, accusing “some individuals and groups” of attempting to “mislabel our organization to serve their own agendas.”
“They have claimed that we believe our donors should apologize for their skin color, that The Salvation Army believes America is an inherently racist society, and that we have abandoned our Christian faith for one ideology or another,” it wrote.
“Those claims are simply false, and they distort the very goal of our work,” it claimed, emphasizing its belief that racism is “fundamentally incompatible with Christianity, and that we are called by God to work toward a world where all people are loved, accepted, and valued”: Our positional statement on racism makes this clear. These beliefs and goals are critically important because we know that racism exists, and we are determined to do everything the Bible asks of us to overcome it.”

The organization explained that it publishes internal study guides on “various complex topics to help foster positive conversations and grace-filled reflection among Salvationists,” which is where the controversial guide “Let’s Talk About Racism” comes into the picture.

The organization said the guidance was “issued as a voluntary resource” and continued to defend it, casting blame on “some” for ignoring “accurate information” it has provided.

“At the same time, International Headquarters realized that certain aspects of the guide may need to be clarified. Consequently, for both reasons, the International Social Justice Commission has now withdrawn the guide for appropriate review,” The Salvation Army announced, claiming that it is not telling people how to think and reemphasizing that it is simply committed to the model set by Jesus.

However, the most controversial aspects of the guidance, which cited an “urgent need for Christians to evaluate racist attitudes and practices in light of our faith,” were not addressed in The Salvation Army’s pointed statement.

The guidance, developed by the organization’s International Social Justice Commission, listed goals in the guidance, urging donors to “understand and acknowledge the definitions of race and racism and how the social construct of race has affected society” and, ultimately, “lament, repent and apologize for biases or racist ideologies held and actions committed.”

The guide also instructed readers to “stop denying the existence of individual and systemic/institutional racism,” “stop denying that White privilege exists,” and “stop trying to be ‘colorblind'”:

While this might sound helpful, it actually ignores the God-given differences we all possess, as well as the beautiful cultures of our Black and Brown brothers and sisters. Instead of trying to be colorblind, try seeing the beauty in our differences, and welcome them into your homes churches and workplaces. Being colorblind also ignores the discrimination our Black and Brown brothers and sisters face and does not allow us to address racism properly.

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It also asserted that individuals can perpetuate racism in “conscious and unconscious ways” and called for “repentance” and a “heartfelt apology,” as such is necessary, the guide suggested, to “move towards racial reconciliation”:

We recognize that it is a profound challenge to sit on the hot seat and listen with an open heart to the hurt and anger of the wounded. Yet, we are all hardwired to desire justice and fairness, so the need to receive a sincere apology is necessary. We are also imperfect human beings and prone to error and defensiveness, so the challenge of offering a heartfelt apology permeates almost every relationship.

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Even if the individual feels as though they never acted in a racist manner, the guide suggested they “spend time repenting on behalf of the Church and asking for God to open hearts and minds to the issue of racism.”
“Perhaps God spoke to you during your time of lament, and you have an idea of what you need to repent and apologize for,” the now-pulled guide stated. “Please take time to write out or think about how you can repent and apologize.”

Jeep said:

Yesterday I got mail from the SA wanting a donation. LOL It will be going back tomorrow in the mail with no money and no apology. And with some of my comments and to me, that will be worth the cost of a stamp.

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I got it today.
i just threw it away.

Regarding whether or not to take a tax benefit on donations...

If you don't donate (for whatever reason, including barely having enough $ for yourself), then that is the optimal choice for you in terms of net worth. If you want to donate, but you don't want to deduct what the law allows, that is the least optimal choice. Donating but deducting the donation for tax purposes may seem like a moral compromise to some, but it is entirely legal, your financial benefit isn't all that much, and maybe the government sees it as a different sort of compromise, as in "we need people to donate to xyz so we don't have to fund that, and a tax deduction will help encourage them to do so".

Since I'm going to donate anyway, if the .gov wants to give me a small break on taxes, I'm willing to take the pittance in net profit that the deduction allows ($3 in the example below), and I am happy that that pittance can't be used by .gov for things that I don't approve of. (If you feel guilty about that, you can always take that pittance and pass it on/pay it forward in ways that don't go on the tax sheet, such as buying food/items for a local shelter or food bank, or helping out individuals on the street.)

Example: You earn $100 and your tax rate is 30% (just an example).

Tithe nothing, pay 30% on $100 ($30), your net is $70 ($100-$30)
Tithe $10, do not deduct, pay 30% on $100, your net is $60 ($100-$10-$30)
Tithe $10, deduct, pay 30% on $90 (or $27), your net is $63 ($100-$10-$27)

Feeling guilty about the tax rebate? Take that $3 pittance and donate it in a fashion that doesn't go on the next tax sheet. Net result.... You still end up with $60 (as though you tithed 10% but did not deduct it on your taxes), your total tithe effectively increases, and .gov still gets less of your money to misuse. Win-win.

Tithe $10, deduct, pay 30% on $90, get a net of $63, take the $3 and give it to a local shelter.
Total donations =$10 + $3 = $13 (13% in this example)
Your net = $63 - $3 = $60 (as though you had never deducted anything on the taxes)
.gov gets $27, or $3 less than, or 90% of, what they otherwise would have extracted from you

offer "a sincere apology" to blacks for being "antagonistic.. to black people or the culture, values and interests of the black community."

There is so much wrong with this statement I don't know where to begin.......

Black culture, values and interests of their community???

All I see is violence (or rapping about wanting to), lootings, crime, rape and a people who can't shut the hell up after 9pm so working people can get some sleep.........

.......just what the hell is there to embrace about the majority of Black behavior in this society today?........

Offer a sincere apology??

for what??.......

A race that can't feed themselves?.......can't organize anything peaceful?.............hates law and order (OJ verdict anyone?)...........can't have any kind of social event without ending up in "shots rang out"? or a "robbery gone wrong"?

I have news for your mushy feel good apologetic salvation army types............

1) Apologies to Blacks doesn't work as they know you are just window dressing. Now you are just a phony after attempting to wet nurse them with that.

2) They see it as a weakness.......in the jungle it will get you killed and they still have that residual DNA jungle inside.

Go ahead White liberals flush your whole civilization down the crapper by handing it over to those who never could build one and see how that works out for you.

I'm sick of all this crap.....................for me I avoid the groid and wish to be free and separated from them.

I don't hate them........I just have no interest in their way of life.

Love how they infer that the kerfuffle is all our fault because we are too dumb to properly interpret what they meant with their policy statements.

They just keep digging.