ECON Report food and grocery price increases/shortages here: 2021 Edition

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Marseydoats

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Sicario said:
Sure they do. :D

Amazon.com : Dinty Moore Beef Stew, 20 oz Can (Pack of 8) : Grocery & Gourmet Food

Amazon.com : Dinty Moore Beef Stew, 20 oz Can (Pack of 8) : Grocery & Gourmet Food
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No, that's not what I meant. This was more like brunswick stew/beef soup. It had an odd name that I can't remember. Had all kinds of veggies in it and was really good.
 
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anna43

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My grocery list is on the kitchen table. My computer is in the opposite corner of the house. Whenever I read this thread I get my exercise by walking to the kitchen to add to my list ;) ;) ;). Seriously I appreciate reminders. My pantry and freezer are in good condition, but there are always things that I can add. This time it was reminder to buy for Thanksgiving and Christmas. Yesterday a reminder to buy flour when it goes (hopefully) on sale for holidays.

I've been shopping locally lately, however, for big stock ups I cannot afford to do that. I have only next Tuesday free to go to town so hopefully I'll be able to do that. I really have to force myself to go which right now is not good with how fast prices are rising. I tend to wait until my list is way too long and then exhaust myself by running from place to place to do my shopping. I'm old I need to conserve energy as well as $'s.
 
SouthernBreeze

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von Koehler said:
And my father always had my mom boil or bake extra potatoes. He loved having them cubed up for breakfast.
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That's exactly what Cary's mom would do. She would boil enough potatoes for the night's supper, and there were always enough left to chop up to fry for the next morning's breakfast. Sometimes, she would mash them up, and make potato pancakes. German pan fries were almost always made from left over cold potatoes, or boiled early, and kept in the fridge, until time to use them, drained, of course.
 
Roadgeek

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meezy said:
(Krogering)

Doesn't everyone? LOL!!!
And if you're from around where I live, you don't go to Kroger -- it's Kroger's. Same with lots of other stores. No idea why. Same reason we say "please?" instead of "what did you say?" I guess...

For what it's worth, my son works at a Kroger in SE Ohio and I asked him a couple days ago if he'd seen any shortages, either in his department (produce) or elsewhere. He said no.

Where I live, if there are empty shelves at the grocery it's probably because they're having trouble hiring people to unload the trucks and stock. Likely the same everywhere. Gosh, I wonder why? :rolleyes:
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We had a Henke's in my hometown that became a Kroger's. My dad always called it "Fred Kroger's"; he also called the drugstore "Jack Eckerds".
 
ohiohippie

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This isn’t food related.
My son is a heavy equipment diesel mechanic at a landfill.
He’s been driving 100 miles twice a week alternating days with another mechanic and working Sats for 3 months at another landfill.
The company can’t find another diesel mechanic.
There’s a shortage of skilled laborers.
Also, they haven’t been able to get parts at times.
The transmission needed for a bulldozer has been sitting on a dock in NY waiting for delivery. Not enough truck drivers.
I never thought about the shortages covering us up in trash due to lack of employees, parts and equipment.
The things I take for granted.
*sigh
 
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Sleeping Cobra

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From another forum:

The food industry typically operates on very small margins – often below 2%. Traditionally, wholesalers and retailers have relied on a two-week turnaround of supply and anywhere up to a 30-day payment plan. But an increasing tightening of the economic system for the last eight years has resulted in a turnaround time of just three days for both supply and payment for many in the industry. This a system that’s still fully operative, but with no further wiggle room, should it take a significant further hit.

If there were a month where significant inflation took place (say, 3%), all profits would be lost for the month for both suppliers and retailers, but goods could still be replaced and sold for a higher price next month. But, if there were three or more consecutive months of inflation, the industry would be unable to bridge the gap, even if better conditions were expected to develop in future months. A failure to pay in full for several months would mean smaller orders by those who could not pay. That would mean fewer goods on the shelves. The longer the inflationary trend continued, the more quickly prices would rise to hopefully offset the inflation. And ever-fewer items on the shelves.
Quoting: Jeff Thomas

internationalman.com

Nine Meals from Anarchy

If there were an interruption in the supply of food, fear would set in immediately. After only nine missed meals, it’s not unlikely...
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psychgirl

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SouthernBreeze said:
That's exactly what Cary's mom would do. She would boil enough potatoes for the night's supper, and there were always enough left to chop up to fry for the next morning's breakfast. Sometimes, she would mash them up, and make potato pancakes. German pan fries were almost always made from left over cold potatoes, or boiled early, and kept in the fridge, until time to use them, drained, of course.
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I use extras for crispy oven fries! I could eat fries until I burst haha!!!
Mmmm salty crunchy fries!!!
 
Garand

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Oh and by the way, I see what China is doing stockpiling oil and coal and gasoline for this winter ( economic ninja video on YouTube explains). I believe that is not it, I think they are stockpiling rice and other food stuffs. Their economy is hurting and starving people will overthrow the government.
 
Bones

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Sleeping Cobra said:
Expect "Food Inflation:

www.click2houston.com

Food stamp benefits to increase by more than 25% in October

The Biden administration has approved a significant and permanent increase in the levels of food stamp assistance available to needy families.
www.click2houston.com www.click2houston.com
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From real life experience, this reported increase is true.

I read through the comments following the article and, while I agree with the sentiment of the taxpayer/working people's rage, the bump will ease the strain in my own home.

***still a terrible stigma for me to receive instead of contribute, but that's a discussion between a noggin Dr and myself***

What we now receive in food assistance is $7.56 each per day to eat.

We continue to be thankful, but ask each other all the time " where is this money coming from?? "
 
Roadgeek

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Sleeping Cobra said:
From another forum:

The food industry typically operates on very small margins – often below 2%. Traditionally, wholesalers and retailers have relied on a two-week turnaround of supply and anywhere up to a 30-day payment plan. But an increasing tightening of the economic system for the last eight years has resulted in a turnaround time of just three days for both supply and payment for many in the industry. This a system that’s still fully operative, but with no further wiggle room, should it take a significant further hit.

If there were a month where significant inflation took place (say, 3%), all profits would be lost for the month for both suppliers and retailers, but goods could still be replaced and sold for a higher price next month. But, if there were three or more consecutive months of inflation, the industry would be unable to bridge the gap, even if better conditions were expected to develop in future months. A failure to pay in full for several months would mean smaller orders by those who could not pay. That would mean fewer goods on the shelves. The longer the inflationary trend continued, the more quickly prices would rise to hopefully offset the inflation. And ever-fewer items on the shelves.
Quoting: Jeff Thomas

internationalman.com

Nine Meals from Anarchy

If there were an interruption in the supply of food, fear would set in immediately. After only nine missed meals, it’s not unlikely...
internationalman.com internationalman.com
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Could you please identify that other forum? Oh, never mind. Just click the linky-poo and voila! Thanks anyhow.
 
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rafter

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I work with my SS so no way do I qualify for food stamps. So I just have to tough it as far as cost. With the food stamps going up....the prices will just go up accordingly and those of us not on it will just have to suffer more. Just like the so called cost of living increase that SS gets and they just up the medicare cost to take it. No win situation.
 
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anna43

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I go to a mobile food pantry every other month. No food choices, they load the food in a drive thru process. I take two other ladies and I qualify so I get the food too. Each month they "encourage" (read pressure) you to apply for food stamps. Okay two years ago I did and it was a nightmare process and guess what I got $15 per month after all the hassle. That was in November so I got for November and December. Then in December I got a letter saying my benefits were being cancelled due to increase in SS. I HAD NOT YET RECEIVED NOTICE OF SS RAISE FROM SS. So I notice on this months food stamp handout that I again qualify but BIG NO I'm not applying again.

Trying to remember what we got last time. Quart of frozen eggs, 2 small bags of dried milk, box of cereal, #5 potatoes, 2 cans of pears, 1 can of fruit cocktail, 2 cans of tomato sauce, small jar of peanut butter, 2 small boxes of whole wheat spaghetti, bag of potato flakes, bag of split peas, bag of walnuts, box of raisins and box of dried plums. So lots of good stuff and a few not so worthwhile. I love raisins but was the 9th box given this year!
 
thompson

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SouthernBreeze said:
That's exactly what Cary's mom would do. She would boil enough potatoes for the night's supper, and there were always enough left to chop up to fry for the next morning's breakfast. Sometimes, she would mash them up, and make potato pancakes. German pan fries were almost always made from left over cold potatoes, or boiled early, and kept in the fridge, until time to use them, drained, of course.
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One of my grandmothers always had a pan full of boiled potatoes w/ the skin on that she kept in the fridge for potatoes fried in bacon grease (is there really any other way? ;) ). My dad loved to take a cold potato and cut it in quarters and sprinkle w/ salt for a snack. I like them that way, too.
 
SouthernBreeze

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thompson said:
One of my grandmothers always had a pan full of boiled potatoes w/ the skin on that she kept in the fridge for potatoes fried in bacon grease (is there really any other way? ;) ). My dad loved to take a cold potato and cut it in quarters and sprinkle w/ salt for a snack. I like them that way, too.
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When I make warm German potato salad, I boil up a pan of chunked up potatoes in the morning. Drain, and put in the fridge for use later that night. I also boil extra potatoes at suppertime if we're having them, so I already have chunked up potatoes for pan fried potatoes the next morning ( I add chopped onions while frying them), or for use the next night. Cary's German mom taught me. Cary even likes raw potatoes as a snack. Just peel, wash, and eat.
 
von Koehler

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SouthernBreeze said:
When I make warm German potato salad, I boil up a pan of chunked up potatoes in the morning. Drain, and put in the fridge for use later that night. I also boil extra potatoes at suppertime if we're having them, so I already have chunked up potatoes for pan fried potatoes the next morning ( I add chopped onions while frying them), or for use the next night. Cary's German mom taught me. Cary even likes raw potatoes as a snack. Just peel, wash, and eat.
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I think potatoes are the ideal homestead crop, if you have the right soil and climate for them.

You can get a huge yield. They provide tons of calories to keep your belly filled.

They require minimal processing to prepare to eat.

And they are so tasty.
 
blackguard

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Went to Sam's club on the west side of OKC this morning. Overall the store was decently stocked but some areas such as meat had choices but not a great deal of product. Canned veggies you were limited to either corn or peas. Paper goods were limited to one per customer and bottled water was three per customer. I was in that store three weeks ago and the limitations were not in place at that time.
 
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Terrwyn

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Martinhouse said:
I qualify for the minimum in food stamps so my assistance comes to 63 and one-third cents per day.

An increase of over 25% would give me around $25 per month. I wonder if food prices will go up equal to my $6 per month increase? (:
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That 60 is what my neighbor gets. She said hers is going to 90.
 
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Terrwyn

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Bones said:
From real life experience, this reported increase is true.

I read through the comments following the article and, while I agree with the sentiment of the taxpayer/working people's rage, the bump will ease the strain in my own home.

***still a terrible stigma for me to receive instead of contribute, but that's a discussion between a noggin Dr and myself***

What we now receive in food assistance is $7.56 each per day to eat.

We continue to be thankful, but ask each other all the time " where is this money coming from?? "
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There is no shame. I've accepted help and I've given help. You never know what end you are going to be on. Lately I've had to learn to ask for help in other ways. One of my neighbors accompanies DH to Drs appt. I've found out that people are eager to help but I've had to ask which is hard to do.
 
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Martinhouse

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Terrwyn, thanks for that! Gee, I can live on 90 cents a day! At least until the beans and rice give out...especially now that our recent small rain had made the dandelions pop back out for one final growth spurt of the year. Plus I have lots of dehydrated kale and broccoli leaves, both of which store so well that they look and smell as fresh after three or four years as they did when they first came out of the dehydrator. Add in my tons of canned tomato juice and I'll be reasonably well fed. (As well as completely bored by this fare!)
 
DragonSlayer00

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Did some shopping at Sam’s and Kroger today and noticed they are limiting items again. Sam’s is limiting water to 3 cases and Kroger was limiting the amount of cases of canned soda you can purchase due to what they posted about there being an aluminum shortage. Also, my quick lunch of a ramen cup went from $.33 a cup to $.50 a cup.
 
annieosage

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DragonSlayer00 said:
Did some shopping at Sam’s and Kroger today and noticed they are limiting items again. Sam’s is limiting water to 3 cases and Kroger was limiting the amount of cases of canned soda you can purchase due to what they posted about there being an aluminum shortage. Also, my quick lunch of a ramen cup went from $.33 a cup to $.50 a cup.
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My Smith's (Kroger) has had the 3 case limit on waters for a few weeks now. I posted it somewhere in this thread. I haven't noticed a shortage on sodas yet but didn't need any this week.
 
von Koehler

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thompson said:
One of my grandmothers always had a pan full of boiled potatoes w/ the skin on that she kept in the fridge for potatoes fried in bacon grease (is there really any other way? ;) ). My dad loved to take a cold potato and cut it in quarters and sprinkle w/ salt for a snack. I like them that way, too.
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Bacon grease is the only way to fry potatoes and onions. I just had some for supper and the onion rings were transformed into sweet treats.

An egg fried in bacon drippings is food for the gods. I am appalled to see how eggs are made by most; they should have a delicate, slightly pink color on the yolks but runny golden color inside. Perfect for dipping your breakfast toast into.
You need a cast iron pan and a cover for it. I inherited my mother's set and wouldn't sell them for a million bucks.

Whenever I cook up bacon, I consider the bacon fat just as valuable as the bacon. Store it in a big soup can in the refrigerator so as to prevent it going bad. But that has never happened as it goes so fast.
 
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ainitfunny

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i cannot emphasize too strongly that MOST PEOPLE do not stock up on enough FATS AND OILS in long term prepping.

You can have hundreds of pounds of beans, rice, flour, macaroni, sugar and veggies but without FAT you can still suffer mal-nourishment.
CHECK HOW MANY GALLONS OF OIL AND POUNDS OF SHORTENING YOU HAVE!
Probably not enuff.
FAT is the first thing to become unavailable and EXTREMELY expensive during food shortages.
olive oil
coconut oil
LARD
soybean oil
corn oil
canola oil
cottonseed oil
peanut oil
VEGETABLE shortening (Crisco type)
vegetable oil
avocado oil
sunflowed seed oil
butter
oleomargarine
It is wisest to get it from a restaurant supply for the best price. You dont have to be a restaurant to buy at most of these places.
 
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thompson

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ainitfunny said:
i cannot emphasize too strongly that MOST PEOPLE do not stock up on enough FATS AND OILS in long term prepping.

You can have hundreds of pounds of beans, rice, flour, macaroni, sugar and veggies but without FAT you can still suffer mal-nourishment.
CHECK HOW MANY GALLONS OF OIL AND POUNDS OF SHORTENING YOU HAVE!
Probably not enuff.
FAT is the first thing to become unavailable and EXTREMELY expensive during food shortages.
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Fat is what satiates me (and many others). I never felt satisfied trying (briefly, long ago) to eat a mostly vegetarian diet.

ETA: I'm not talking about a whole stick of butter, etc. A moderate amount, even a little will go a long way in satisfying hunger.
 
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ainitfunny said:
i cannot emphasize too strongly that MOST PEOPLE do not stock up on enough FATS AND OILS in long term prepping.

You can have hundreds of pounds of beans, rice, flour, macaroni, sugar and veggies but without FAT you can still suffer mal-nourishment.
CHECK HOW MANY GALLONS OF OIL AND POUNDS OF SHORTENING YOU HAVE!
Probably not enuff.
FAT is the first thing to become unavailable and EXTREMELY expensive during food shortages.
olive oil
coconut oil
LARD
soybean oil
corn oil
canola oil
cottonseed oil
peanut oil
VEGETABLE shortening (Crisco type)
vegetable oil
avocado oil
sunflowed seed oil
butter
oleomargarine
It is wisest to get it from a restaurant supply for the best price. You dont have to be a restaurant to buy at most of these places.
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Don't forget ghee. I found 2 jars of beef tallow in the mark-down section of my Kroger store, and scarfed it up! Got a whole file cabinet drawer dedicated to fats and oils.
 
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Terrwyn

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ainitfunny said:
i cannot emphasize too strongly that MOST PEOPLE do not stock up on enough FATS AND OILS in long term prepping.

You can have hundreds of pounds of beans, rice, flour, macaroni, sugar and veggies but without FAT you can still suffer mal-nourishment.
CHECK HOW MANY GALLONS OF OIL AND POUNDS OF SHORTENING YOU HAVE!
Probably not enuff.
FAT is the first thing to become unavailable and EXTREMELY expensive during food shortages.
olive oil
coconut oil
LARD
soybean oil
corn oil
canola oil
cottonseed oil
peanut oil
VEGETABLE shortening (Crisco type)
vegetable oil
avocado oil
sunflowed seed oil
butter
oleomargarine
It is wisest to get it from a restaurant supply for the best price. You dont have to be a restaurant to buy at most of these places.
Click to expand...
Don't forget Ghee and the canned butter from Safecastle and other storage food places.
 
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