ALERT UPDATE-post #1- Mil officer says they're being told RIGHT NOW get food, water, & supplies

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
We have some candles, but prefer oil lamps. We've got three of them, and lots of lamp oil. In the summer we have these awesome LED solar lanterns. We use them for camping and keep them fully charged. They're way more efficient than candles. If you live in a sunny location, they're a must-have. They've gone up in price. We bought ours years ago for $10 each and then they went up to $15. Now they're at $24 but you'll have them for years. Totally worth it. You might find them cheaper somewhere else. There are a lot of other kinds of solar lights, too.
Yeah, right.
I have bought all kinds of electronic and oil lamps and still say when all else fails HAVE CANDLES, lots of em, at least 300,
And you can't beat em for trade items.
And I live in the PNW WHERE you need lights during the daytime in July it is so overcast and tree shaded here.
Of course, that meant when it was 100 degrees all around me it was only 70 degrees in my house.
 
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phloydius

Veteran Member
I tried to order salt at Walmart.com. Instead of delivery, the cart said I had to drive an hour away. I went in realz and there truly was no (cheap) salt on the shelves. Would have been 40c for a carton. Safeway had it for about a dollar. So annoying.

Not for all uses, but we love this pink salt we found at Dollar Tree (very cheap compared to pink salt from other stores). I do not know if there is a location near you, but there is a way to order it online and have it shipped to you, I just don't know the price. It is free to have it shipped to a local store & picked up.

 
we always buy salt in the 4LB boxes at the SKAMS KLUB and its also not uncommon for me to just pick up a couple of the 1lb containers at Ingles or FUD LYIN every now and again. I would also suggest having a spice grinder or herb grinder to "reprocess" your salt because it WILL form into a solid block - and do that despite the fact that you've vacuum sealed it in double plastic bags
I think in a pinch one could put the salt in a large plastic bag and hit it with a hammer or brick.
 

Knight_Loring

Veteran Member
My sister and I were taking one day and it came up about CANDLES after you have used up all the AA and AAA BATTERIES, which will happen faster than you think.

We came to the conclusion that NOBODY is stocking enough candles. If you whole household has to share ONE CANDLE after dark, that means even with this level of stringent use you NEED 365 CANDLES for a years prep at one candle per day. AND 6 months prep at two candles per day. Not so important in high summer but most of the year has very short daylight days, and lockdown is maddening if you have to do it in DARKNESS.

Nothing is as reliable as candles
or as valuable as a trade item.
We gathered as many as we could from yard sales and bought out the dollar stores till we had more than a years worth.

Side note:
While you are burning your candles, it is a good idea to acquire boxes of 'strike anywhere matches' and stick the business end into the melted wax. When cooled off, store the matches in zip lock bags.
 

EMICT

Veteran Member
"I can't post video, but MIl officer says they're being told RIGHT NOW get food, water, supplies and SALT... Most definitely SALT... did I say SALT... Yes SALT!!!" :lkick:
 

Mprepared

Veteran Member
Yeah, right.
I have bought all kinds of electronic and oil lamps and still say when all else fails HAVE CANDLES, lots of em, at least 300,
And you can't beat em for trade items.
And I live in the PNW WHERE you need lights during the daytime in July it is so overcast and tree shaded here.
Of course, that meant when it was 100 degrees all around me it was only 70 degrees in my house.

I also live in PNW. I have oil lamps too and I have woodheat. I found some link once how to make fire starters using an egg carton and fill with dryer lint and melt candle wax over them. They work really good. Once I had not made them for a long time and forgot the wax. lol I thought just the lint in the egg carton would work.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
Solar lanterns great if you get sun. But have backups! Texas usually has sun but not last winter during snow and artic freeze.
Practice not turning on lights during day. It is such a habit to flip switch when you walk in a room. Live like the pioneers !
Right about practicing to go without additional light in daytime BUT
I have yet to see solar lights that get enuff sun in the PNW to work reliably or last very long. They might work for a week or two at best.
 

fish hook

Deceased
there is no number that you can say, when I reach that I have enough, I been stocking since 1975, ( a Mel Tappen prepper) I still add some, cause my kids dont, I figure as long as I eat it before it goes bad, even then the dogs will,

all were doing is giving us months after everyone else runs out.
Hopefully we are buying time to gather and get crops started for the long haul.
 

fish hook

Deceased
My sister and I were taking one day and it came up about CANDLES after you have used up all the AA and AAA BATTERIES, which will happen faster than you think.

We came to the conclusion that NOBODY is stocking enough candles. If you whole household has to share ONE CANDLE after dark, that means even with this level of stringent use you NEED 365 CANDLES for a years prep at one candle per day. AND 6 months prep at two candles per day. Not so important in high summer but most of the year has very short daylight days, and lockdown is maddening if you have to do it in DARKNESS.

Nothing is as reliable as candles
or as valuable as a trade item.
We gathered as many as we could from yard sales and bought out the dollar stores till we had more than a years worth.
Buy rechargable batteries and a solar recharger.
 

anna43

Veteran Member
I've had a well stocked pantry for many years. For me the key is to immediately put any item I use on the my shopping list so that I keep my pantry at the same comfortable level. I'm sure if the SHTF and I can't shop there will be something I missed. However, nothing came up during the shut down nor the many times during various winters when i didn't shop for a couple months so I'm not terribly concerned. The key is to have a good pantry and then be willing to be flexible with meal planning.

If you're not currently cooking/eating from your pantry, then I'd suggest you start doing so. I've spent years collecting recipes that can be made with what's in my pantry. That's also that's the primary way I cook so as to rotate the food in my pantry. I could not even attempt to estimate how many different meals could be made from my pantry and freezer and this time of year from my garden.
 

Coulter

Veteran Member
Do you even begin to know how lucky you are?
No kidding - my wife has - ridiculed - me from the beginning.

But she will be the first to complain when we run out of things - and claim she was always supportive.

I would have - a lot - more if she wasn't always against me.

I can't even imagine what it would be like to have somebody on your side - even if it turns out I'm wrong.
 

vestige

Deceased
No kidding - my wife has - ridiculed - me from the beginning.

But she will be the first to complain when we run out of things - and claim she was always supportive.

I would have - a lot - more if she wasn't always against me.

I can't even imagine what it would be like to have somebody on your side - even if it turns out I'm wrong.
Dammit ....


I always thought you were female.

Such is the internet.

Stand firm
 

fish hook

Deceased
Solar lanterns great if you get sun. But have backups! Texas usually has sun but not last winter during snow and artic freeze.
Practice not turning on lights during day. It is such a habit to flip switch when you walk in a room. Live like the pioneers !
Most have a twelve volt charging option.
 

AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
My sister and I were taking one day and it came up about CANDLES after you have used up all the AA and AAA BATTERIES, which will happen faster than you think.

We came to the conclusion that NOBODY is stocking enough candles. If you whole household has to share ONE CANDLE after dark, that means even with this level of stringent use you NEED 365 CANDLES for a years prep at one candle per day. AND 6 months prep at two candles per day. Not so important in high summer but most of the year has very short daylight days, and lockdown is maddening if you have to do it in DARKNESS.

Nothing is as reliable as candles
or as valuable as a trade item.
We gathered as many as we could from yard sales and bought out the dollar stores till we had more than a years worth.

That is a great point! The wife (I thought) always overbought on candles-but as a prep item we're pretty well stocked now. And in a prep situation, having scented candles in a shtf bunker might be welcome.
 

Bob the Builder

Contributing Member
Walmart.com will not let me order any kind of spices, including sugar and salt. I know other folks on here have no problem getting them , but it's not available in this area. Mid South.
I can order dh's salt substitute from them, I don't know what the difference is.
I would think you could get the local liquor store to order you some small bottles of vodka, but I doubt it would be cheap. My dad bought a lot of those airplane bottles at the liquor super store in an adjoining state.
Just spent some quality time at Costco and Winco. South Idaho. No shortages of any kind noted in any area.
Absolutely the least crowded we have ever seen. Everybody very friendly. Evidently the word is not yet out.
Very expensive morning.....:bwl:
Edited to add gas and diesel are both near $4.00
 

Jeff B.

Don’t let the Piss Ants get you down…
Costco has what I think are 10 lb bags of salt and also 5 lb tubs of pink Himalayan salt in store.

I just looked at the site, two kinds of sea salt in 5
Lb tubs but none of the sacks like they have in the warehouse.

Jeff B.
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
we always buy salt in the 4LB boxes at the SKAMS KLUB and its also not uncommon for me to just pick up a couple of the 1lb containers at Ingles or FUD LYIN every now and again. I would also suggest having a spice grinder or herb grinder to "reprocess" your salt because it WILL form into a solid block - and do that despite the fact that you've vacuum sealed it in double plastic bags

Whack it with a mallet to break up, and then run it in your food processor for a bit. Salt never goes bad. Once you break it up and grind it, heat it in the oven in a baking pan for an hour at 300 or so. Let it cool and put it in quarts with the lid hand-tight. It won't clump up again. Salt clumps only when it can get moisture from the air.
 

dvo

Veteran Member
No kidding - my wife has - ridiculed - me from the beginning.

But she will be the first to complain when we run out of things - and claim she was always supportive.

I would have - a lot - more if she wasn't always against me.

I can't even imagine what it would be like to have somebody on your side - even if it turns out I'm wrong.

You are not alone. Could be more of us here than you think. To be unequally yoked in any aspect is a burden. But...I feelz ya. Hard to be successful, and blamed if you aren’t.
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
No kidding - my wife has - ridiculed - me from the beginning.

But she will be the first to complain when we run out of things - and claim she was always supportive.

I would have - a lot - more if she wasn't always against me.
DH gave me grief early in our marriage. Then this major blizzard headed our way. He excitedly asked if I'd been to the store? I said we don't have to go. He blinked and I escorted him to the pantry and asked; "What do we need that's not here?". It finally clicked.

Years later he was laid off for a few months due to an employer backing out of a job offer after he'd put in his notice. That reinforced the need for a pantry. Not having to worry about food? That's a big thing when the paychecks stop.
 

Jubilee on Earth

Veteran Member
Right about practicing to go without additional light in daytime BUT
I have yet to see solar lights that get enuff sun in the PNW to work reliably or last very long. They might work for a week or two at best.
Maybe older ones, but newer LED ones rock. We lived off the grid for a summer in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. No electricity, and relied solely on oil lamps and solar lights. Even on a cloudy day you could charge the solar lights to full capacity in about 7 hours. Half that on a bright sunny day. We had several of them that we would rotate, and they would last for about 3-4 days (running 4-5 hours at a time) before needing recharging. I was super impressed. We still use them to this day and they’re going strong. Solar charging has come a long way. We also have a few 100W solar panels that would charge batteries that we’d run lamps and laptops off of. Worked like a charm, even in a not so favorable climate like the Yoop.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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DH gave me grief early in our marriage. Then this major blizzard headed our way. He excitedly asked if I'd been to the store? I said we don't have to go. He blinked and I escorted him to the pantry and asked; "What do we need that's not here?". It finally clicked.

Years later he was laid off for a few months due to an employer backing out of a job offer after he'd put in his notice. That reinforced the need for a pantry. Not having to worry about food? That's a big thing when the paychecks stop.
AMEN! When I spent a year in and out of the hospital fighting MRSA, my Mom helped a lot, but hubby was still stuck with a dairy farm and 4 kids. Because I was so well stocked, he never did have to shop (we had milk cows and laying hens, so milk and eggs were covered)

My 13 year old daughter learned how to bake bread, and the youngest son, at 9 and being home schooled, kept the family in cookies and sweet rolls.

I had a heck of a restocking job when I could walk again!

Summerthyme
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
AMEN! When I spent a year in and out of the hospital fighting MRSA, my Mom helped a lot, but hubby was still stuck with a dairy farm and 4 kids. Because I was so well stocked, he never did have to shop (we had milk cows and laying hens, so milk and eggs were covered)

My 13 year old daughter learned how to bake bread, and the youngest son, at 9 and being home schooled, kept the family in cookies and sweet rolls.

I had a heck of a restocking job when I could walk again!

Summerthyme
We had milk goats and laying hens, so milk and eggs were covered.
 
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