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Keep them free money checks comin!

As an aside, I'd like to see the self-employed unemployment keep going, though. We already pay double taxes as it is; how are we not eligible for unemployment?

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"I'm Not Going Back To Work": Indiana Residents Sue After Governor Nixes Unemployment Benefits

by Tyler Durden
Tuesday, Jun 22, 2021 - 11:11 AM

A group of Indiana residents have filed a lawsuit against state officials, challenging the state's decision to end federal unemployment benefits by the end of the week.

The lawsuit, filed last Monday, seeks to preserve what was supposed to be temporary pandemic safety net of $300 per week on top of other state or federal benefits, after indiana Gov. Eric Holcomb announced last month that the state would pull out of the federal program before it's official September end date in order to motivate unemployed people to help fill the state's more than 116,000 open jobs.


Holcomb is joined by around two dozen mostly red states.

"It's not black and white," said Sharon Singer-Mann in a statement to IndyStar. "Everybody's story is not the same. I'm not going back to work, not at the risk of my son's life."

"We'll have to decide which utility bill to pay, which household items to let go of," she added (despite the 116,000 open jobs), "... We'll have to change what kind of shampoo we use, what kind of toilet paper we use."

Without the federal pandemic unemployment benefits, many Indiana residents, like Singer-Mann, say they would have had to choose between finding a job and taking care of their children, face evictions, forgo medical care and grapple with devastating financial setbacks that could derail their lives.
Those stories from residents are outlined in a lawsuit filed against Indiana state officials Monday in Marion County Superior Court challenging the state's decision to end federal benefits by the end of this week. -IndyStar

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"Our community is dealing with enough stress and trauma," said Rev. David Greene, president of the Concerned Clergy of Indianapolis and a plaintiff in the lawsuit against the state along with residents represented by the Indiana Legal Services nonprofit law firm which represents low-income residents.

When asked about the lawsuit, Holcomb's office responded: "DWD has timely notified impacted claimants about the state’s withdrawal from the federal programs and continues to connect impacted people with the resources they need to gain skills and be matched with employment."

Staffing shortages persist

While the enhanced unemployment benefits have clearly kept some people from the job scene, some workers have come back to work - or have continued to work through the pandemic.

It wasn't by any means easy. When customers began returning to restaurants with the warmer weather and loosening restrictions, it meant longer hours for Ryan Isenor at his job at a local pizza shop.
In addition to serving, he was pouring drinks and bussing tables to make up for the thin staff, cutting into time he typically makes for himself to decompress.
However, he doesn't resent anyone who decided to change careers or taking their time to figure out their next jobs. It's a personal choice, he thinks.
"It's pervasive: this hustle attitude. But I don't believe in that," he said.
The restaurant has since hired more people, making his life less hectic, but many service industry businesses are struggling to hire as they scale back to their pre-pandemic levels. -IndyStar

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Workers advocates, however, say there aren't enough jobs available for people relying on federal benefits - noting that while 116,000 jobs may be available, there are nearly 200,000 people who have been receiving federal unemployment benefits.

Progressive think tank Century Foundation thinks it's more - and says Indiana is set to lose out on $1.5 billion in federal funding that would have helped some 286,000 residents.

Seasonal trends will undoubtedly take up some of that slack, as summer hiring is expected to pick up amid loosening pandemic restrictions.

"June will have pickups in hiring," said Kyle Anderson, an economist at Indiana University Kelley School of Business, adding "That's true regardless of what the extended benefits are going to be."

Rev. Greene, meanwhile, is worried that the elimination of federal benefits will lead to a spike in evictions.

"There's a difference between going back to work and working 20 hours a week, with rent, car payments, food, etc.," he said. "We need to get organizations to get back up to 40 hours a week."

Greene also says crime will spike because of poverty and evictions.

"People dealing with stress and not making enough money, well they resort to crime," he said, adding "...Finances is always key in any relationship. When finances dwindle, there's an increase in domestic violence."

In the first week of June, there were 600 evictions filed in Indiana - making for more than 46,000 since the start of the pandemic, according to data from the Princeton Eviction Lab.

"Without his unemployment benefits, J.C. will be unable to pay for rent and will likely face eviction in July 2021," the lawsuit reads. "Eviction is both expensive, time consuming and creates a record that can hinder his ability to rent or buy affordable housing in the future and limit his future employment prospects."

Some of the workers were lacing together two part-time jobs, sometimes even a third where they could fit it in. That does get tiring. That was less of a problem when there were 40/hour a week jobs. Many companies went to 30 hours or less a week so they didn't have to provide the workers with insurance.

One thing I noticed while I was restocking my pantry and in a lot of stores: the workers that I saw (and there weren't a lot) seemed very unhappy. I suspect those that do make an effort to show up are being worked hard to make up for the employee shortage.

Meemur said:

Some of the workers were lacing together two part-time jobs, sometimes even a third where they could fit it in. That does get tiring. That was less of a problem when there were 40/hour a week jobs. Many companies went to 30 hours or less a week so they didn't have to provide the workers with insurance.

One thing I noticed while I was restocking my pantry and in a lot of stores: the workers that I saw (and there weren't a lot) seemed very unhappy. I suspect those that do make an effort to show up are being worked hard to make up for the employee shortage.

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Which is a terrible plan because it's seldom been so easy to find a new job.

Those who make policy aren't especially in touch with the blue collar lifestyle and probably most don't even do their own grocery shopping.

ShadowMan said:

"If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat."

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We have people in government that say control the food and you control the people.

Blacknarwhal said:

“We'll have to change what kind of shampoo we use, what kind of toilet paper we use."

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Their so distraught about having to change what kind of toilet paper and shampoo they buy, just wait till things get much worse.

Blacknarwhal said:

Keep them free money checks comin!

As an aside, I'd like to see the self-employed unemployment keep going, though. We already pay double taxes as it is; how are we not eligible for unemployment?

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"I'm Not Going Back To Work": Indiana Residents Sue After Governor Nixes Unemployment Benefits

by Tyler Durden
Tuesday, Jun 22, 2021 - 11:11 AM

A group of Indiana residents have filed a lawsuit against state officials, challenging the state's decision to end federal unemployment benefits by the end of the week.

The lawsuit, filed last Monday, seeks to preserve what was supposed to be temporary pandemic safety net of $300 per week on top of other state or federal benefits, after indiana Gov. Eric Holcomb announced last month that the state would pull out of the federal program before it's official September end date in order to motivate unemployed people to help fill the state's more than 116,000 open jobs.


Holcomb is joined by around two dozen mostly red states.

"It's not black and white," said Sharon Singer-Mann in a statement to IndyStar. "Everybody's story is not the same. I'm not going back to work, not at the risk of my son's life."

"We'll have to decide which utility bill to pay, which household items to let go of," she added (despite the 116,000 open jobs), "... We'll have to change what kind of shampoo we use, what kind of toilet paper we use."

"Our community is dealing with enough stress and trauma," said Rev. David Greene, president of the Concerned Clergy of Indianapolis and a plaintiff in the lawsuit against the state along with residents represented by the Indiana Legal Services nonprofit law firm which represents low-income residents.

When asked about the lawsuit, Holcomb's office responded: "DWD has timely notified impacted claimants about the state’s withdrawal from the federal programs and continues to connect impacted people with the resources they need to gain skills and be matched with employment."

Staffing shortages persist

While the enhanced unemployment benefits have clearly kept some people from the job scene, some workers have come back to work - or have continued to work through the pandemic.

Workers advocates, however, say there aren't enough jobs available for people relying on federal benefits - noting that while 116,000 jobs may be available, there are nearly 200,000 people who have been receiving federal unemployment benefits.

Progressive think tank Century Foundation thinks it's more - and says Indiana is set to lose out on $1.5 billion in federal funding that would have helped some 286,000 residents.

Seasonal trends will undoubtedly take up some of that slack, as summer hiring is expected to pick up amid loosening pandemic restrictions.

"June will have pickups in hiring," said Kyle Anderson, an economist at Indiana University Kelley School of Business, adding "That's true regardless of what the extended benefits are going to be."

Rev. Greene, meanwhile, is worried that the elimination of federal benefits will lead to a spike in evictions.

"There's a difference between going back to work and working 20 hours a week, with rent, car payments, food, etc.," he said. "We need to get organizations to get back up to 40 hours a week."

Greene also says crime will spike because of poverty and evictions.

"People dealing with stress and not making enough money, well they resort to crime," he said, adding "...Finances is always key in any relationship. When finances dwindle, there's an increase in domestic violence."

In the first week of June, there were 600 evictions filed in Indiana - making for more than 46,000 since the start of the pandemic, according to data from the Princeton Eviction Lab.

"Without his unemployment benefits, J.C. will be unable to pay for rent and will likely face eviction in July 2021," the lawsuit reads. "Eviction is both expensive, time consuming and creates a record that can hinder his ability to rent or buy affordable housing in the future and limit his future employment prospects."

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and how many of them folks have not paid their rent while receiving this money dump?

i could live like a king with 1200 extra a month

A number of the people I know who can't go back to work are not deadbeats but they have this thing called children. When schools are not open and/or the child is small, well women are no longer allowed to just strap the baby on their back and go into the shop (unless they own it, I know one family here that did that).

Many child care centers both in the US and in Ireland have shut down forever and those that are left (especially in Ireland) can cost a low-wage worker's entire salary, so that doesn't fly very well especially if there is a single-parent household.

I am sure there are people "out there" who are just lazy and want a government check but I think there are a lot more who either don't want to try to juggle three part-time jobs (especially in foodservice where one boss may demand an employee come in when they are working their other job - so you can end up fired from both) or they simply can't find any childcare.

Without childcare, a single parent doesn't work and a couple can only have one person working (unless the kids are in school and one spouse works part-time.

You will know things are really desperate for employers when fast-food franchises or family restaurants start setting up on-site child care for their employees (maybe with five outlets going in together to make it affordable in larger cities). Also, look for big corporations to start doing this and not in a fake way.

Our government building used to have a child care center, but the prices were so high that most of the employees couldn't afford to use it so they "allowed" wealthier people to dump their kids there - this was built with taxpayer money so I found it doubly upsetting that government workers (especially lower paid ones) didn't just have their payments matched to a percentage of their salaries.

People can scream all they like about how "single parents families are a bad idea" and most single Moms (by choice, divorce or widowhood) that I know would agree with this (so do most single fathers). But that doesn't help people already in this situation and even back in the 1970s single mothers were a back bone of the food service industry. It was the one job they could almost always get, even if they didn't finish high school and except for dealing with a crises in child care or a child being ill, they tended to be very motivated and hard workers too.

Lotsa income tax incentives (and flat-out give-a-ways) have been raining down on people with kids in the past few months to get their kids in child care, the heck OFF unemployment, and their butts back to work. I have noticed no decrease in the availability of child care. The local family operations are doing fine (and have all the way through). The bigger operations - closest one this side of town run by the YMCA (brand new, beautiful facility) in partnership with a regional health care system also has been and is now in full operation. They stayed in business except for a few weeks of uncertainty, with staff because college students stepped up to work with the kids when older adults were deemed at risk during Covid.

I read this one yesterday. Got plenty of belly laughs by reading the ZeroHedge comments...as always, the premium product of the site.

Blacknarwhal said:

We'll have to change what kind of shampoo we use

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I recommend Mane & Tail.

Dobbin

Let's face it, this is a genuine problem. But, imho, we have created the problem because Americans have good hearts. It all started many years ago by giving people things rather than allowing people to earn things. One simple example is the constant give-aways of back packs and school supplies. Yes, I understand some people have more than others and it doesn't always mean that those who receive are too lazy to work. But, instead of giving things, why not allow people to have the privilege of earning something? At Christmas, for example, instead of giving hundreds of bicycles, why not allow the parent(s) and the child to do some community work or something in order to earn that bicycle? Provide an incentive before school starts to allow kids to earn a new backpack, etc. We have taught people that without even working everyone deserves to have what everyone else has worked to obtain. "Things" mean a lot more when you have worked to earn them. It also creates a desire to take care of things! You won't often see a trashed bicycle or a torn back pack if the kid has put the effort in to earn it. Yes, I admit...this is my opinion. But the satisfaction of working hard to get what you want is wonderful. We have robbed our youth by not allowing them to experience this.

The childcare problem may be regional, I'm hearing it is a big problem in the Bay Area and something of an issue in Denver; also it is a HUGE problem in Dublin (Ireland, not California) but that's outside of the US area. Though Ireland had a top-up income too which it is now reducing in hopes of getting people back to work it has been noted that child care is a huge issue here.

"It's not black and white," said Sharon Singer-Mann in a statement to IndyStar. "Everybody's story is not the same. I'm not going back to work, not at the risk of my son's life."

This is just silly. She is acting like there is a war zone outside her home and that if she went to work, somehow her child would die. Yeah this is an illness, but come on. I can give her 30 other things that are more risky to her child than her going to work.

Alaskan_Leatherhead said:

Their so distraught about having to change what kind of toilet paper and shampoo they buy, just wait till things get much worse.

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This is only the beginning. She may even have to use store brand instead of the popular items. OH MY GOD!!!!!

I can understand her concern as to changing, eventually, to the "John Wayne' brands of TP. RELIC and I don't even use THAT...
(Def'n==> "John Wayne TP" ==> "It's rough and tough and won't take shit off'n, ANYBODY". Def'n comes from a national level Office Supplies Sales Executive. (Pronoun='Her')

Cry me a river.
Most are in a pickle financial. Because of their want. Want. Want.
I have seen this numerous times
New house
New cars
New furniture
New ski doos
New boat
New motor cycle
Omg
I don’t make enough to pay for all my stuff pay my utilities and buy food

It’s not my fault

Geese. Maria

Gotta keep them blue votes coming.

WalknTrot said:

I read this one yesterday. Got plenty of belly laughs by reading the ZeroHedge comments...as always, the premium product of the site.

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There seems to be a split as to whether or not this is all Their fault or just a lack of work ethic.

ok, these people had kids prior to the pandemic, so what did they do with them then? is it their expectation that since they have kids they never have to work again??!!

night driver said:

I can understand her concern as to changing, eventually, to the "John Wayne' brands of TP. RELIC and I don't even use THAT...
(Def'n==> "John Wayne TP" ==> "It's rough and tough and won't take shit off'n, ANYBODY". Def'n comes from a national level Office Supplies Sales Executive. (Pronoun='Her')

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At least she hasn't gotten to the corn cob level of TP

undead said:

ok, these people had kids prior to the pandemic, so what did they do with them then? is it their expectation that since they have kids they never have to work again??!!

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Pretty much.

Entitlement mentality, wanting leisure and to be lazy. I can see this lawsuit being thrown out.

Meemur said:

the workers that I saw (and there weren't a lot) seemed very unhappy. I suspect those that do make an effort to show up are being worked hard to make up for the employee shortage.

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Your hunch is right on the money.

I've been fortunate, I work part-time because of child-care needs, but most of the folks I work with are full-time and have maintained working through the past 15 months...through the occupancy restrictions, through the mask man-date, through the skyrocketing demand for certain products, the shortage of others, the abuse of Karen's, the ridiculous hoops of sanitizing, spit barriers, 6ft signage, spaced-out and limited breakroom seating, the riots, an insane holiday season, and

"Oh, we had a COVID positive case and we know you interacted with them so don't come in for two weeks, but you can't claim unemployment, nor can receive our company COVID paid unless you test positive".

'We know full well we've run you ragged and you've been operating outside of norm for well over a year, but we just feel your not doing quite enough out on floor and we understand you've behind a counter or in the stockroom doing STS or dealing with the insane amount of apparel/kayaks/bikes the home office had sent, but according to the manager we fired because she lied, never did her job and would hide out in the office; your customer interaction rates have been low and we'd like to see you improve those stats before we give you a $0.30 pay increase.

We know it's been tough, we know the extra $2 "hero pay, "hazard pay", "COVID pay" that we'd tacked on your hourly pay for a few weeks was really helping you, we know we had you barricading the emergency exit doors with stacks of pallets every night and now have specialized reinforcement bars for the exits you have to install each night to deter forced entry during riots, we know you're worn thin by doing the job of three people, so as a thank you for all the abuse, all the work, all the crap you've dealt with...we've determined you've earn....A PIZZA PARTY!! Oh, and we did not order anything for those that may be on a diet, suffer from a gluten intolerance, or just straight plain don't like pizza.

Keep up the great work!

Publius said:

We have people in government that say control the food and you control the people.

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"Control oil and you control countries.............control food and you control the people" - Harry Kissinger

Weps said:

Your hunch is right on the money.

I've been fortunate, I work part-time because of child-care needs, but most of the folks I work with are full-time and have maintained working through the past 15 months...through the occupancy restrictions, through the mask man-date, through the skyrocketing demand for certain products, the shortage of others, the abuse of Karen's, the ridiculous hoops of sanitizing, spit barriers, 6ft signage, spaced-out and limited breakroom seating, the riots, an insane holiday season, and

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The problem there becomes how much of this is corporate greed talking and how much of it is employee greed talking?

We'd all like to slap the CEO of Lowe's for bringing in record profits and giving the employees that made it happen a pittance, but then we remember the Dollar General that closed because all its employees walked out.

GameStop just brought in $1 billion in extra stock sales, but they also told their employees to argue with police when they were getting stores shut down during the early days of the pandemic.

While this BS is ongoing, businesses, you know, the places that GIVE people jobs, have to pay DOUBLE unemployment taxes as a penalty for both employing people and the .gov paying people not to work.

It always PSSeD me off having to pay more unemployment taxes for each time I hired someone and took them off of unemployment. I had to pay an Obama unemployment premium on top of the taxes for years after he extended unemployment out for two years during his reign.

The .gov is not just printing this money from thin air, they are clawing it back from businesses via higher unemployment taxes, driving up the cost of everything while paying people who are not making anything to stay home and continue to consume stuff, driving up prices even more.

Simple math
People getting paid not to work + them still buying consumables with the free money = shortages of everything and higher prices.

0-1=-1

Thinwater said:

While this BS is ongoing, businesses, you know, the places that GIVE people jobs, have to pay DOUBLE unemployment taxes as a penalty for both employing people and the .gov paying people not to work.

It always PSSeD me off having to pay more unemployment taxes for each time I hired someone and took them off of unemployment. I had to pay an Obama unemployment premium on top of the taxes for years after he extended unemployment out for two years during his reign.

The .gov is not just printing this money from thin air, they are clawing it back from businesses via higher unemployment taxes, driving up the cost of everything while paying people who are not making anything to stay home and continue to consume stuff, driving up prices even more.

Simple math
People getting paid not to work + them still buying consumables with the free money = shortages of everything and higher prices.

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What annoys me is paying both employee and employer taxes, being self-employed and all, but not getting access to unemployment insurance myself. My money's good enough to pay other people's employees to get unemployment, but not my OWN employee, I guess.

Blacknarwhal said:

The problem there becomes how much of this is corporate greed talking and how much of it is employee greed talking?

We'd all like to slap the CEO of Lowe's for bringing in record profits and giving the employees that made it happen a pittance, but then we remember the Dollar General that closed because all its employees walked out.

GameStop just brought in $1 billion in extra stock sales, but they also told their employees to argue with police when they were getting stores shut down during the early days of the pandemic.

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Our company made record profits;

Academy Sports + Outdoors Announces Record Sales and Earnings for the Fourth Quarter & Fiscal 2020

Fourth Quarter and Full Year Comparable Sales Increased 16.1%

Fourth Quarter Gross Margin Rate Expanded 420 basis points over Q4 2019

Full Year Net Income Increased 157.2% over 2019 to $308.8 million

Academy Sports + Outdoors Announces Record Sales and Earnings for the Fourth Quarter & Fiscal 2020 | Academy Sports and Outdoors, Inc.

Fourth Quarter and Full Year Comparable Sales Increased 16.1% Fourth Quarter Gross Margin Rate Expanded 420 basis points over Q4 2019 Full Year Net Income Increased 157.2% over 2019 to $308.8 million KATY, Texas, March 30, 2021 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Academy Sports and Outdoors, Inc.

investors.academy.com

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Weps said:

Our company made record profits;

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Record profits...but you get a pizza party!

...yaaaaaay....

Maybe companies ought to be giving everyone stock options.

Millwright said:

Gotta keep them blue votes coming.

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And Governor Holcomb is doing the “come hither” for the red votes. As is Governor Abbott here in Texas. I suspect a presidential run from Abbott coming up.

Weps said:

Your hunch is right on the money.

I've been fortunate, I work part-time because of child-care needs, but most of the folks I work with are full-time and have maintained working through the past 15 months...through the occupancy restrictions, through the mask man-date, through the skyrocketing demand for certain products, the shortage of others, the abuse of Karen's, the ridiculous hoops of sanitizing, spit barriers, 6ft signage, spaced-out and limited breakroom seating, the riots, an insane holiday season, and

"Oh, we had a COVID positive case and we know you interacted with them so don't come in for two weeks, but you can't claim unemployment, nor can receive our company COVID paid unless you test positive".

'We know full well we've run you ragged and you've been operating outside of norm for well over a year, but we just feel your not doing quite enough out on floor and we understand you've behind a counter or in the stockroom doing STS or dealing with the insane amount of apparel/kayaks/bikes the home office had sent, but according to the manager we fired because she lied, never did her job and would hide out in the office; your customer interaction rates have been low and we'd like to see you improve those stats before we give you a $0.30 pay increase.

We know it's been tough, we know the extra $2 "hero pay, "hazard pay", "COVID pay" that we'd tacked on your hourly pay for a few weeks was really helping you, we know we had you barricading the emergency exit doors with stacks of pallets every night and now have specialized reinforcement bars for the exits you have to install each night to deter forced entry during riots, we know you're worn thin by doing the job of three people, so as a thank you for all the abuse, all the work, all the crap you've dealt with...we've determined you've earn....A PIZZA PARTY!! Oh, and we did not order anything for those that may be on a diet, suffer from a gluten intolerance, or just straight plain don't like pizza.

Keep up the great work!

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I think I have seen that memo once or twice regarding the pizza party..... lol

undead said:

ok, these people had kids prior to the pandemic, so what did they do with them then? is it their expectation that since they have kids they never have to work again??!!

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I've purposely stayed at home for the last 13 years. Where my check at?

Weps said:

Your hunch is right on the money.

I've been fortunate, I work part-time because of child-care needs, but most of the folks I work with are full-time and have maintained working through the past 15 months...through the occupancy restrictions, through the mask man-date, through the skyrocketing demand for certain products, the shortage of others, the abuse of Karen's, the ridiculous hoops of sanitizing, spit barriers, 6ft signage, spaced-out and limited breakroom seating, the riots, an insane holiday season, and

"Oh, we had a COVID positive case and we know you interacted with them so don't come in for two weeks, but you can't claim unemployment, nor can receive our company COVID paid unless you test positive".

'We know full well we've run you ragged and you've been operating outside of norm for well over a year, but we just feel your not doing quite enough out on floor and we understand you've behind a counter or in the stockroom doing STS or dealing with the insane amount of apparel/kayaks/bikes the home office had sent, but according to the manager we fired because she lied, never did her job and would hide out in the office; your customer interaction rates have been low and we'd like to see you improve those stats before we give you a $0.30 pay increase.

We know it's been tough, we know the extra $2 "hero pay, "hazard pay", "COVID pay" that we'd tacked on your hourly pay for a few weeks was really helping you, we know we had you barricading the emergency exit doors with stacks of pallets every night and now have specialized reinforcement bars for the exits you have to install each night to deter forced entry during riots, we know you're worn thin by doing the job of three people, so as a thank you for all the abuse, all the work, all the crap you've dealt with...we've determined you've earn....A PIZZA PARTY!! Oh, and we did not order anything for those that may be on a diet, suffer from a gluten intolerance, or just straight plain don't like pizza.

Keep up the great work!

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This is literally true for every grocery store that has maintained through this entire fiasco.

Its awful. Mind body and soul wrecking ball. My DH and DS are tired.

Most of the jobs are low paying manual labor jobs. I am 58 years old with a herniated lumbar disk and heart issues. Like I am going to be on my feet all day waiting tables with disgruntled customers. I am a well trained professional for peets sake with a Masters degree. I am rooting for the lawsuit. My profession in oil patch is just starting to recover.

The LEGAL issue here is that to be ELIGIBLE for UI, you have to be SEEKING WORK and ACCEPTING of an offer.
Bitch in the OP doesn't qualify.

The legal challenge is based on Indiana law 22-4-37-1 that requires the state to procure all available federal insurance benefits to citizens.”

Ending the benefits would result in a forfeiture of $1.5 billion by the state that otherwise would’ve been spent locally on rent, utilities, groceries, transportation and more to boost our economy.

They may have a strong legal case to cause an injunction against ending the benefits which are set to expire after September 4th anyways.

Huh, my DH is a professional with college degrees too. As far as I know there has never been work he was too good for. Matter of fact he left the corporate world because he missed being in the stores and working with, and helping advance, employees. I know this because I worked for him at one point.

It's one of the things I absolutely love about him. He never asks an employee to do something he himself hasn't done or wouldn't do himself.

pauldingbabe said:

Huh, my DH is a professional with college degrees too. As far as I know there has never been work he was too good for. Matter of fact he left the corporate world because he missed being in the stores and working with, and helping advance, employees. I know this because I worked for him at one point.

It's one of the things I absolutely love about him. He never asks an employee to do something he himself hasn't done or wouldn't do himself.

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Does he have a herniated lumbar disc and heart issues?

Meemur said:

Some of the workers were lacing together two part-time jobs, sometimes even a third where they could fit it in. That does get tiring. That was less of a problem when there were 40/hour a week jobs. Many companies went to 30 hours or less a week so they didn't have to provide the workers with insurance.

One thing I noticed while I was restocking my pantry and in a lot of stores: the workers that I saw (and there weren't a lot) seemed very unhappy. I suspect those that do make an effort to show up are being worked hard to make up for the employee shortage.

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It's the same employees at my local Fareway, that's been there for years now. There were a couple of new faces, and they look to be recent high school graduates, otherwise I haven't noticed any significant changes at that particular store.