CORONA Why Americans should "be very worried" about the COVID variant tearing through Brazil

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Why Americans should "be very worried" about the COVID variant tearing through Brazil

Sao Paulo — Brazil's battle against a dangerous coronavirus variant has left its hospitals at breaking point, with new cases skyrocketing and the death toll climbing precipitously. One expert told CBS News that Americans should be "very worried about" the prospect of the mutant virus, or others yet undetected, gaining a foothold on U.S. soil.

The COVID-19 surge in Brazil is being driven both by the highly-infectious P-1 strain that was first detected in that country, and a highly-criticized government response to the pandemic. The variant has already been found in more than half of U.S. states.

As CBS News correspondent Manuel Bojorquez reports, the situation in Brazil's biggest city, Sao Paulo, and across the country, is dire. When the P-1 variant started taking hold last month, hospital intensive care units in more than half of Brazil's states were already at 90% capacity, or more.

COVID surge leaves Brazilians digging graves around the clock
CBS News witnessed firsthand how the situation appears to be getting even worse, pushing Brazil's robust health care system to the brink. Every single patient at Sao Paulo's Hospital Geral de Vila Penteado suffers from COVID-19. There's no room for any others.

De Jesus told Bojorquez that in her experience, fewer than half of the patients she's treating are likely to recover from the disease. Surprisingly, she said more and more of those patients are in their 20's, 30's and 40's.

Unlike ICUs in the U.S., the wards at her hospital are open, with no barriers between patients. It feels like a worst-case scenario for the medics trying desperately to save lives. Bojorquez watched as people were intubated to be put on ventilators, while in another room, a patient was given chest compressions. It's a daily struggle that haunts those working at the facility, and countless others across Brazil.

"The majority of the cases, the last thing they see is me, the nurses," de Jesus said.

Scientists believe the P-1 variant is fueling the surge. Dr. Miguel Nicolelis, a Distinguished Professor of Neuroscience at Duke University's School of Medicine, told CBS New that the strain is two-and-a-half times more easily transmitted from person to person, and that's a concern for everyone, even outside Brazil's borders.

"If I were talking to someone in Oklahoma, I would tell him or her to be very worried about it," Nicolelis told Bojorquez. "Because if Brazil is out of control, the world will be out of control in a few weeks. Because variants that are brewing here every day, every week… they will escape."

He said he spoke out about the worsening in threat in Brazil months ago, but few listened — most notably President Jair Bolsonaro, who has been criticized for downplaying the pandemic and fighting restrictions put in place by some governors, including Sao Paulo's.

"We are fighting against two viruses at this moment, the coronavirus and 'Bolsonorovirus,'" Sao Paulo Governor Joao Doria told Bojorquez.

Doria has drawn the ire of Bolsonaro's supporters, but he believes the limited restrictions he's been able to enforce in Brazil's most populous state — home to more than 46 million people — including closing shopping malls, have started to show results.

But he said the measures he's able to take without the national government coming on board simply aren't enough to combat the health crisis.

"We need, at this moment, to be united against the virus, not divided, and we are divided," he said. "We are advocating [for a] lockdown right now. We are in the red phase at this moment. It's a lockdown, a local lockdown, to orient people to stay home at this time. Please, stay home."

Brazil's Health Ministry says roughly 3% of the country's population has been fully vaccinated. The country is currently using two vaccines not yet approved for use in the U.S., but the drugs most widely-used in the U.S. are showing mixed results in protecting against the P-1 variant.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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They try this a couple times a month. Each time squealing about the variant. All this is is a rationalization of why the so-called vaccine here in the US is not protecting people the way they claimed. It is also leading up to needing a new shot at least once a year.

Follow the money. Follow the money. Follow the money.
 

stop tyranny

Veteran Member
Why Americans should "be very worried" about the COVID variant tearing through Brazil

Sao Paulo — Brazil's battle against a dangerous coronavirus variant has left its hospitals at breaking point, with new cases skyrocketing and the death toll climbing precipitously. One expert told CBS News that Americans should be "very worried about" the prospect of the mutant virus, or others yet undetected, gaining a foothold on U.S. soil.

The COVID-19 surge in Brazil is being driven both by the highly-infectious P-1 strain that was first detected in that country, and a highly-criticized government response to the pandemic. The variant has already been found in more than half of U.S. states.

As CBS News correspondent Manuel Bojorquez reports, the situation in Brazil's biggest city, Sao Paulo, and across the country, is dire. When the P-1 variant started taking hold last month, hospital intensive care units in more than half of Brazil's states were already at 90% capacity, or more.

COVID surge leaves Brazilians digging graves around the clock
CBS News witnessed firsthand how the situation appears to be getting even worse, pushing Brazil's robust health care system to the brink. Every single patient at Sao Paulo's Hospital Geral de Vila Penteado suffers from COVID-19. There's no room for any others.

De Jesus told Bojorquez that in her experience, fewer than half of the patients she's treating are likely to recover from the disease. Surprisingly, she said more and more of those patients are in their 20's, 30's and 40's.

Unlike ICUs in the U.S., the wards at her hospital are open, with no barriers between patients. It feels like a worst-case scenario for the medics trying desperately to save lives. Bojorquez watched as people were intubated to be put on ventilators, while in another room, a patient was given chest compressions. It's a daily struggle that haunts those working at the facility, and countless others across Brazil.

"The majority of the cases, the last thing they see is me, the nurses," de Jesus said.

Scientists believe the P-1 variant is fueling the surge. Dr. Miguel Nicolelis, a Distinguished Professor of Neuroscience at Duke University's School of Medicine, told CBS New that the strain is two-and-a-half times more easily transmitted from person to person, and that's a concern for everyone, even outside Brazil's borders.

"If I were talking to someone in Oklahoma, I would tell him or her to be very worried about it," Nicolelis told Bojorquez. "Because if Brazil is out of control, the world will be out of control in a few weeks. Because variants that are brewing here every day, every week… they will escape."

He said he spoke out about the worsening in threat in Brazil months ago, but few listened — most notably President Jair Bolsonaro, who has been criticized for downplaying the pandemic and fighting restrictions put in place by some governors, including Sao Paulo's.

"We are fighting against two viruses at this moment, the coronavirus and 'Bolsonorovirus,'" Sao Paulo Governor Joao Doria told Bojorquez.

Doria has drawn the ire of Bolsonaro's supporters, but he believes the limited restrictions he's been able to enforce in Brazil's most populous state — home to more than 46 million people — including closing shopping malls, have started to show results.

But he said the measures he's able to take without the national government coming on board simply aren't enough to combat the health crisis.

"We need, at this moment, to be united against the virus, not divided, and we are divided," he said. "We are advocating [for a] lockdown right now. We are in the red phase at this moment. It's a lockdown, a local lockdown, to orient people to stay home at this time. Please, stay home."

Brazil's Health Ministry says roughly 3% of the country's population has been fully vaccinated. The country is currently using two vaccines not yet approved for use in the U.S., but the drugs most widely-used in the U.S. are showing mixed results in protecting against the P-1 variant.
Is that the same expert idiots as our federal government listens to? The one world government crowd that is financing the collapse of America are the same ones who are pushing vaccinations and vaccination passports. They are also the same people who believe the earth is over populated and openly admit depopulation must happen to create a sustainable planet. Think about that when you are getting injected with a vaccine that is unproven and may cause future side effects that may be fatal or weaken your bodies ability to fight future variants of this man made bioweapon.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
More fear mongering to keep these idiotic restrictions in place.


This is from Brazil;

RIO DE JANEIRO, BRAZIL - Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro warned Wednesday that the country "is a powder keg" because of the restrictive measures adopted by governors and mayors to try to curb the out-of-control Covid-19 pandemic.

"Brazil is on edge. I am waiting for the people to give a signal," said the president, who said that because of the policy of "closing everything" very soon, the country would have severe social problems.

Bolsonaro made these statements in a brief meeting with a group of supporters, a day after the Senate, by decision of the Supreme Court, agreed to . . .





Covid infection is real and can be very serious. But what we need to do is develop the mindset that few things are either black/white in the world today. People tend to the extremes, with Covid either the sky is falling and we need to shut everything down and wear masks/gloves for the rest of our lives or it's all made up malarky, few people have died and those that did probably died of something else anyway.

The truth like most things is somewhere in-between. As unwise as it is to gravitate to the lock everything down forever extreme it's also unwise to dismiss it all as made up nonsense. I do believe that it's bad in Brazil and a lot of people are dying.

What I would like to know is, is this spread of new Covid cases actually being enhanced by the various vaccines? What treatments are they being given? And have they tried what we have learned to be effective such as Ivermectin, high levels of vitamin C and vitamin D3, zinc and a zinc ionophore such as HCQ or Quercetin?

A serious Covid outbreak and trying to deal with it like they did a year ago with ventilators and steroids and little else is bound to have a lot of deaths especially if there are new strains of the disease. OTOH we know that western media is going to hype as that feeds into the social constraints they want to put on people unnecessarily for their own foul reasons.
 

ArisenCarcass

Veteran Member
As with everything with this "pandemic*," we'll just have to wait and see.
Coronaviruses do tend to mutate quickly (which is why a vaccine can't be effective on them).

If this strain or the South Africa strain (which appears to attack vaccinated individuals worse) become endemic here.......

I am still of the mind that the Chinks need to pay for what they've done, crippling the world with biological warfare.




*by traditional definition a pandemic requires a 7% mortality rate among those infected.....COVID doesn't even come close
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
How are they doing with HCQ/IVM? Using it at all?
The Main Man pushed HCQ from Day One. And he savagely fought lock downs, mask, social distancing etc.

And one city (Itajai) handed out IVM pills by the millions only to have people die in droves.

The results do not agree with reported results from other places. It may be the variant overwhelms them.

Right now, the main growth industry in Brazil is the digging of graves.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
As with everything with this "pandemic*," we'll just have to wait and see.
Coronaviruses do tend to mutate quickly (which is why a vaccine can't be effective on them).

If this strain or the South Africa strain (which appears to attack vaccinated individuals worse) become endemic here.......

I am still of the mind that the Chinks need to pay for what they've done, crippling the world with biological warfare.




*by traditional definition a pandemic requires a 7% mortality rate among those infected.....COVID doesn't even come close

what I find interesting is all of the fear mongering versus the world is over populated and we need to reduce the population to 500,000,000. What's up with that?
 
The Main Man pushed HCQ from Day One. And he savagely fought lock downs, mask, social distancing etc.

And one city (Itajai) handed out IVM pills by the millions only to have people die in droves.

The results do not agree with reported results from other places. It may be the variant overwhelms them.

Right now, the main growth industry in Brazil is the digging of graves.
and funeral flowers
 

DHR43

Since 2001
Do we know for sure that the Brazilian people that have "caught" covid are in areas with excellent sanitation, nutrition and vitamin/mineral supplementation?
If we don't know this, then ignore the scare reporting.
If we do know these people have excellent sanitation, eat very healthy food and practice good nutritional supplementation, then we can ignore the "case" count. PCR tests, as determined by a whole host of experts (including the inventor of this manufacturing technique) are entirely useless.
So either way....ignore.
 

Bps1691

Veteran Member
If this bio-weapon caused this panic and craziness, what's it going to be like when a really historic disease is released. You know that several countries have souped up versions in their germ warfare programs.

Count Down-

3. Spanish Flu: Unknown (1918-1920)
Death Toll: 40-50 million

It is estimated that 500 million people, or one-third of the global population at the time, were infected with the virus.

2. New World Smallpox: Americas (1520 – 1600s)
Death Toll: 56 million


1. The Black Death: Europe and Asia (1347-1351)
Death Toll: 200 million

By far the deadliest pandemic of all time, the Black Death radically shaped the course of human history, plunging Europe into the Dark Ages.

In addition to its high death toll, what made the Black Death so remarkable was the speed with which it occurred. For example, at the start of the pandemic, 60 percent of Florence’s population died within a few months.
 
The Main Man pushed HCQ from Day One. And he savagely fought lock downs, mask, social distancing etc.

And one city (Itajai) handed out IVM pills by the millions only to have people die in droves.

The results do not agree with reported results from other places. It may be the variant overwhelms them.

Right now, the main growth industry in Brazil is the digging of graves.
Could there be a natural deficit of zinc around there?
 
If this bio-weapon caused this panic and craziness, what's it going to be like when a really historic disease is released. You know that several countries have souped up versions in their germ warfare programs.

Count Down-

3. Spanish Flu: Unknown (1918-1920)
Death Toll: 40-50 million

It is estimated that 500 million people, or one-third of the global population at the time, were infected with the virus.

2. New World Smallpox: Americas (1520 – 1600s)
Death Toll: 56 million


1. The Black Death: Europe and Asia (1347-1351)
Death Toll: 200 million

By far the deadliest pandemic of all time, the Black Death radically shaped the course of human history, plunging Europe into the Dark Ages.

In addition to its high death toll, what made the Black Death so remarkable was the speed with which it occurred. For example, at the start of the pandemic, 60 percent of Florence’s population died within a few months.
lots of vacancies
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
I report what is. I try to avoid the Dreaming Sheep Syndrome.

IGNORE is your friend. Join the others.
Keep doing what you do Troke.
It's fun watching those who don't want to acknowledge what's happening close their eyes and plug their ears while going na-na-na-na
Confirmation bias is a powerful filter for most folks to overcome. :lol:
 

lonestar09

Veteran Member
Here is what I find interesting, look at the Southern border where all the illegals are coming in. Look at the number of cases there, are they increasing or decreasing?
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
There isn't anything happening, just more bullshit to keep fools scared.
Reminds me of the guy dying of Covid whose last words were that Covid was a hoax shortly before he died.
Sorry but it is real. Life expectancy in the US and much of the EU has decreased by over a year in just part of the last year.
The thousands of graves dug round the clock and filled with corpses 3 deep in some places is also real.
Hell the graves there and even Iran are visible from satellite.,

I guess you think it's all a cover up by the media and all those people in all the other countries are lying.
I guess you can ignore it if you want. We 're all free to do that.
 
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