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jward

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Today I Gave My Dad A Choice: Trump or His Grandkids and His Son
I felt the need to let him know what the stakes really were.

Leo Guinan
Leo Guinan

Sep 18 · 2 min read

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I wrote earlier about trying to express my reasons to my dad in a calm and intellectual manner. I actually thought I had been calm and well-reasoned. I thought I might even be making progress.
Today I found out he put a Trump sign in his yard.
I got pissed. Really pissed. And I sent him and my mom a text message. Hands shaking, tears in eyes. This is what it said:
Due to the signs in the yard, the kids and I will not be down. The current occupant of the White House is preaching hate and violence, endangering the lives and safety of many of my friends. This is not acceptable to me at all. There is a complete disregard for women, minorities, science, ethics, and morality. Please consider if you support Trump that much. Because I hate him that much. I wanted to be upfront and honest about my feelings.
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And then I went for a walk to calm down. And the more I thought about it, the more I agreed with the message. At this point, it is not acceptable to me. You can vote for whom you wish. But I can choose who I surround myself with. I love my dad, but I can’t be around him until he understands how vital I believe this election to be and what is truly at stake. It is not easy. But it was necessary. Now to see what fallout occurs.




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Today I Gave My Dad A Choice: Trump or His Grandkids and His Son

I felt the need to let him know what the stakes really were.
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AlfaMan

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jward said:
Today I Gave My Dad A Choice: Trump or His Grandkids and His Son
I felt the need to let him know what the stakes really were.
Leo Guinan
Leo Guinan

Sep 18 · 2 min read

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Photo by Jon Tyson on Unsplash
I wrote earlier about trying to express my reasons to my dad in a calm and intellectual manner. I actually thought I had been calm and well-reasoned. I thought I might even be making progress.
Today I found out he put a Trump sign in his yard.
I got pissed. Really pissed. And I sent him and my mom a text message. Hands shaking, tears in eyes. This is what it said:

And then I went for a walk to calm down. And the more I thought about it, the more I agreed with the message. At this point, it is not acceptable to me. You can vote for whom you wish. But I can choose who I surround myself with. I love my dad, but I can’t be around him until he understands how vital I believe this election to be and what is truly at stake. It is not easy. But it was necessary. Now to see what fallout occurs.


Leo Guinan
Written by
Leo Guinan

Trying to share my experiences in a way that might help others. I can change the world. I will change the world. Even if for a single person. He/Him.

posted for fair use
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Today I Gave My Dad A Choice: Trump or His Grandkids and His Son

I felt the need to let him know what the stakes really were.
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Liberal whiny pussy. (Sorry ladies).
 
Squib

Squib

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Well, Shrek, if I were your father, I’d cut you loose along time ago. Maybe your parents didn’t raise you right, or you just have a mental handicap...either way, you’ll likely ruin you children too...if You haven’t already.
 
Krayola

Krayola

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I feel sorry for his Dad. Basically he hates Trump more than he loves his Dad. Actually, he doesn't really love his Dad because he would never do this if he loved him.

It could be a parenting fail, or not. It's easy to always blame the parents for raising him badly. But then I remember there has only been One Perfect Father and His children still rebelled.
 
jward

jward

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Well he certainly is all that- my concern though is for the minors in the home. As a grandparent do you abandon them to the sole influence of that kind of "logic"? Or swallow your ire/principles/pride and reach accommodations- and at what price and what lessons? Then of course there is the fact that you, presumably, raised these liberal wastelands, so.. . .. :shr:
 
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SAPPHIRE

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These "people" have the voodoo virus big time......it accerlerted their unlimited insanity and show the utter gutter heart/soul of such individuals.........yep, agenda over anyone anytime anywhere...........
 
Freeholder

Freeholder

This too shall pass.
My granddaughter has cut herself off from almost all of her family, right up to her great-grandmother, because she perceives us as being 'racist' (I suspect, in my case, because I share things like PragerU videos on FB). This is a CULT. They are being encouraged to see their cult beliefs as more important than their families.

Kathleen
 
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Dozdoats

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You CAN fire family. I have done it, most recently with DW's youngest brother's entire clan. Sad but ... can you trust kids raised by sociopaths? So far the experience has loudly said NO.

Parenting fail is likely the biggest problem, but individuals bear their own responsibilities.
 
Melodi

Melodi

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What a terrible message to send the grandchildren - "Listen, kids, if you don't like the political view even of someone you love and is family, you just dump them."

To do that to grandparents is horrifying, I mean sometimes grandparents do things that make it difficult or impossible to bring the kids over, but this is NOT one of them.

Heck, my extended family had really elderly members who really were flat out racist, but my parents didn't stop taking me to visit great auntie or Uncle so and so who had their political views shaped as young adults between 1900 and 1910!

They might have asked them sometimes to "tone it down" in front of a kid, but they would also just tell me "Auntie or Uncle So and So is very old, and old people sometimes say things we don't agree with, but we can love them anyway" or words to that effect.
 
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Melodi said:
What a terrible message to send the grandchildren - "Listen, kids, if you don't like the political view even of someone you love and is family, you just dump them."

To do that to grandparents is horrifying, I mean sometimes grandparents do things that make it difficult or impossible to bring the kids over, but this is NOT one of them.

Heck, my extended family had really elderly members who really were flat out racist, but my parents didn't stop taking me to visit great auntie or Uncle so and so who had their political views shaped as young adults between 1900 and 1910!

They might have asked them sometimes to "tone it down" in front of a kid, but they would also just tell me "Auntie or Uncle So and So is very old, and old people sometimes say things we don't agree with, but we can love them anyway" or words to that effect.
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That was before the commies had 70 years to work their magic unfettered by anyone.

It's for all the marbles.
 
DazedandConfused

DazedandConfused

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I'd write him off, don't ever come back around. If a only child I'd leave my estate my church or another family member if I had one worthy.

I have a younger sister I've not seen or talked to since settling my mothers estate. If she died today I would not visit her grave to piss on it.
 
jward

jward

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SmithJ said:
Could someone expand on this?
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I believe we're talking about the option in the top far left of the posting window. You might click it prior to pasting your info, and see what, if any difference it makes. It may also depend on what type and size of screen you're on; I have differing outputs depending on whether i am using desktop or the tablet. Hope that helps.
 
marsh

marsh

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Grandparents have a right to see their grandchildren. The grandfather could go to court for visitation rights. It may calm down after all the election madness is settled.

Two of my grandchildren have said negative things about Trump in my presence. They were said matter of factly. I told them that I did not agree and that I would be voting for Trump. I also told them that I would not discuss politics with them in their Mom's house, because we disagree. (If they come to my house, it would be different.)

At least I planted a seed of doubt. They are too young for debate anyway. 12 and 7. Now the oldest one I could engage in debate. She is in 8th grade.
 
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Dozdoats

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Telling dad that you are going to live with Grandpa to take care of him would also be sweet.

I have an idea something like this was responsible for my 7YO grand-niece being banned from any contact with DW and me by her grandmother. The child is headstrong and has been well taught by DW's brother's family to push buttons, I believe this one blew up on her.
 
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