CHAT Is it time for Trump to throw in the towel? (hypothetical question)

vector7

Dot Collector
"...Independents felt it coming in 2016 and pivoted to the Right...."

Where were they in 2018 when the GOP got slaughtered at the State level and lost the House at the National level. That election just naturally scares the Hell out of me. I could see Trump in with a hostile Congress with nothing but impeachment because this time he would have to testify in the Senate under oath.

We're fighting a global multi-trillion dollar media setting up the optics on every front.

Leftist embeded in Academia, Tech, Social Media, Inner cities grommed over decades to fundamentally change Amerca.

Blacks made up some of the independents in 2016 and why we are seeing the revolution directed at them.

They couldn't win with the Trump economy booming with all Americans working.

Spy Gate + Russia Gate + Ukraine + Impeachment + Plandemic + Color Revolution

They've fought tooth and nail for 4 years, they have plans.
 

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen
I'm starting to wonder if we would be better off letting Trump tap out after the first 4 years.
My theory.
The "Orange mad bad" would finally stop.
When it turns to (whatever the want to call Pence) "bad" It would even show more of the world how deranged the left is.

Although I'm not well versed on Pence I do believe he would still beat Biden if thrown into the ring.
Considering 80% of Biden voters are only voting for him because (Orange mad bad).


Pence could do ahead and put him on as an adviser or WH house press secretary. (that would be gold levels of butt hurt)

Just tossing it out there.
Disclaimer: This is not an anti trump post. Just a civil question.
NO.

WTF is wrong with you?! Lordy! :gaah: :strs:
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Oh, I remember the scaremongering about John Kennedy, but I also know the difference between regular Catholic theology and what many actual Domionist's believe (as in actual doctrine and statements their leaders have made).

Including the death penalty for things like same-sex relationships, "witchcraft," and other "sins" (selective enforced as I said I'll bet some of them wear polyester-cotton underwear).

And, I'm really not in favor of "Setting up Christianity as a State Religion" (as defined by them) with laws that literally would have the death penalty for same-sex relationships (consenting adults), "witchcraft" (that would probably be me and any other non-Abrahamic religious practitioner) Censorship (ending all "unGodly" materials - as they define it). I could go on, but that's probably enough to get the point across.

I have paid attention to this for over 40 years and as I said, PENCE may not accept all of these ideas and that's great, the problem is that he's just kept quiet about it, which is exactly what people in that belief system (in a serious way) are told to do.

I mean, I don't really care if a candidate considers their Pet Rock to be a minor divinity as long as I (or my friends and family) are not expected to face execution or severe taxation if they don't go along with it.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Ok back to Trump, I think he is tired and feeling back into a corner but he has reasons to feel that way.

He may, however, still win the election and I don't really see him quitting unless he felt there was a grave threat to his family, especially his wife or his kids.

And even then, he might just hire more security and send them to live in a fortress somewhere, after all he can afford to do this.

That is also what "they" (probably the CIA etc) hated about Kennedy, he was rich enough not to care and that tidbit was told to me by my Mother in the 1960s (minus the CIA part, I think she said "his enemies.")
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
Many of you might remember the hysteria surrounding JFK’s run. “WE DON’T DARE ALLOW A PAPIST IN THE WHITE HOUSE! THE POPE WILL BE RUNNING THE COUNTRY!”

Well, at that time there were still millions of people who thought the Kennedy clan was Christians. Now, we know better, so that should never have been a concern.
 

Hawkgirl_70

Veteran Member
Is it time for Trump to throw in the towel?
No, it's time for Trump to throw out the Commies! Like right now!
Agree!!! Trump needs to go on the offensive hard! Don’t back down for nothing. And we need to do our part to get out there and away from our computers to educate one voter at a time. There’s tons of non voters out there. I have a target on one this week. Never voted and open to hearing more from me.
We’ve got to get out there to educate and fight for our country’s survival too.
 

Squid

Veteran Member
Ok back to Trump, I think he is tired and feeling back into a corner but he has reasons to feel that way.

He may, however, still win the election and I don't really see him quitting unless he felt there was a grave threat to his family, especially his wife or his kids.

And even then, he might just hire more security and send them to live in a fortress somewhere, after all he can afford to do this.

That is also what "they" (probably the CIA etc) hated about Kennedy, he was rich enough not to care and that tidbit was told to me by my Mother in the 1960s (minus the CIA part, I think she said "his enemies.")
He will stay in and win just to do his Trump NY style F& to his enemies.

He revels in competition more so than popularity, something the media never quite realized because that is how they usually control republicans, providing Faustian bargains.
 

TorahTips

Membership Revoked
I don't want to make a statement here that is political. I take no political sides. I'm not that simple. Here's what I see. Biden is in trouble. Everyone including his handlers know that he's wearing diapers and that if he goes off script, he has a cognitive crash. I don't understand how that person can even be allowed to seek the high office.

Trump. He's a narcissist. He MUST be in control. When he's not he turns into an 8 year old schoolyard bully. The name calling is so absurd. When a narcissist loses complete control of a situation they can become delusional. He has drifted in and out of that state.

I think -- despite what every scientist has said -- that the virus would just go away. He's said that from the beginning. That is and always has been delusional. Everyone has told him that. when the stay-at-home thing really started to hurt economically, he ordered the nation back to work way ahead of science (not just Fauci). We are now reaping his whirlwind and there will be another round of stay at home orders long before I thought it would happen.

I worked at Macy's. I've been cut permanently. Speaking to my boss on the day I was terminated he said "There's another lockdown coming and Macy's will be done forever." That will be the case with massive numbers of businesses big and small. The US economy will completely collapse.

Trump knows this. As a narcissist he doesn't know what to do. Narcissists MUST control. He CANNOT control what is about to happen to his precious little prefab economy. Worse yet, he cannot control the virus. The only control he has over it is to say that it doesn't exist (delusion).

As the darkness closes in, he becomes more and more desperate. The republicans are watching. Time is running out. They see that the Fall will likely bring a virus disaster and Trump cannot deal with it. It will be the #1 issue - especially when children and teachers alike start dropping.

I believe the republicans know Trump is a bad choice. I think he will probably be forced to resign very shortly. OMG if they don't, Biden or Hillary will absolutely be elected.
 

Hawkgirl_70

Veteran Member
Torah Tips - NEVER! He must never give in and resign!
We, his supporters MUST help him and carry this battle thru to the end. We MUST pray to our Almighty Lord to intervene and stop the cheating so he can win fair and square.
 

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen
I don't want to make a statement here that is political. I take no political sides. I'm not that simple. Here's what I see. Biden is in trouble. Everyone including his handlers know that he's wearing diapers and that if he goes off script, he has a cognitive crash. I don't understand how that person can even be allowed to seek the high office.

Trump. He's a narcissist. He MUST be in control. When he's not he turns into an 8 year old schoolyard bully. The name calling is so absurd. When a narcissist loses complete control of a situation they can become delusional. He has drifted in and out of that state.

I think -- despite what every scientist has said -- that the virus would just go away. He's said that from the beginning. That is and always has been delusional. Everyone has told him that. when the stay-at-home thing really started to hurt economically, he ordered the nation back to work way ahead of science (not just Fauci). We are now reaping his whirlwind and there will be another round of stay at home orders long before I thought it would happen.

I worked at Macy's. I've been cut permanently. Speaking to my boss on the day I was terminated he said "There's another lockdown coming and Macy's will be done forever." That will be the case with massive numbers of businesses big and small. The US economy will completely collapse.

Trump knows this. As a narcissist he doesn't know what to do. Narcissists MUST control. He CANNOT control what is about to happen to his precious little prefab economy. Worse yet, he cannot control the virus. The only control he has over it is to say that it doesn't exist (delusion).

As the darkness closes in, he becomes more and more desperate. The republicans are watching. Time is running out. They see that the Fall will likely bring a virus disaster and Trump cannot deal with it. It will be the #1 issue - especially when children and teachers alike start dropping.

I believe the republicans know Trump is a bad choice. I think he will probably be forced to resign very shortly. OMG if they don't, Biden or Hillary will absolutely be elected.
Are you off your meds?
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
Major indicator that Trump not only shouldn't for one second consider quitting, but that he could well STOMP the Dims in November:


SUNDAY, JULY 12, 2020
The Trumpslide continues

"If people were surprised by Trump's victory in 2016, they're going to be flabbergasted in 2020. Never forget that the media doesn't just lie about basic facts, it outright fabricates the entire narrative:
Late last month, the Democratic data firm TargetSmart found that while new voter registrations had plummeted amid the coronavirus pandemic, those who were registering in competitive states tended to be whiter, older and less Democratic than before.

When he saw the numbers, Ben Wessel, executive director of NextGen America, said he "got nervous," and other Democratic-leaning groups felt the same.

The report seemed to confirm what state elections officials and voter registration groups had been seeing in the field for weeks: Neither Democrats nor Republicans had been registering many voters during the pandemic. But Democrats were suffering disproportionately from the slowdown.

Last month in Iowa, where the race between Trump and Joe Biden is surprisingly close, Republicans nosed back ahead of Democrats in active registrations after ceding the lead to Democrats for the first time in years.
There are lots of frightened white Democrats who are going to vote Republican for the first time in 2020 thanks to Black Looming Menace."
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
"..There are lots of frightened white Democrats who are going to vote Republican for the first time in 2020 thanks to Black Looming Menace."

Now that is something I never thought of. That just might swing it if the PTB persist in letting BLM loot and pillage at their leisure. The legal harassment that the St Louis couple got into just defending their property may have harvested gobs of votes for Trump.
 

TorahTips

Membership Revoked
Torah Tips - NEVER! He must never give in and resign!
We, his supporters MUST help him and carry this battle thru to the end. We MUST pray to our Almighty Lord to intervene and stop the cheating so he can win fair and square.
Trump is not going to lose because he is being cheated. He's going to lose because the country is being raped by a savage pandemic and he pretends that it doesn't exist. He calls it the "sniffles." Shit. There are refrigerated semis in hospital parking lots in Houston and Phoenix to house morgue overflow. And Trump calls it the sniffles that goes away in 15 minutes. That's a leadership blackhole.

Can I support Biden then? That is the obvious accusation of blind thinkers. He's shitting himself. He's wearing diapers. He jabbers. He talks to dead people and to people that don't exist.

Lesser of two evils.... No. Either choice ends civilization in the US. Do you want to be destroyed or do you want to be destroyed? I would hold my nose and vote for Pence. But not the other two. One has a delusional disorder and the other one has a shitting disorder.
 

Squid

Veteran Member
I don't want to make a statement here that is political. I take no political sides. I'm not that simple. Here's what I see. Biden is in trouble. Everyone including his handlers know that he's wearing diapers and that if he goes off script, he has a cognitive crash. I don't understand how that person can even be allowed to seek the high office.

Trump. He's a narcissist. He MUST be in control. When he's not he turns into an 8 year old schoolyard bully. The name calling is so absurd. When a narcissist loses complete control of a situation they can become delusional. He has drifted in and out of that state.

I think -- despite what every scientist has said -- that the virus would just go away. He's said that from the beginning. That is and always has been delusional. Everyone has told him that. when the stay-at-home thing really started to hurt economically, he ordered the nation back to work way ahead of science (not just Fauci). We are now reaping his whirlwind and there will be another round of stay at home orders long before I thought it would happen.

I worked at Macy's. I've been cut permanently. Speaking to my boss on the day I was terminated he said "There's another lockdown coming and Macy's will be done forever." That will be the case with massive numbers of businesses big and small. The US economy will completely collapse.

Trump knows this. As a narcissist he doesn't know what to do. Narcissists MUST control. He CANNOT control what is about to happen to his precious little prefab economy. Worse yet, he cannot control the virus. The only control he has over it is to say that it doesn't exist (delusion).

As the darkness closes in, he becomes more and more desperate. The republicans are watching. Time is running out. They see that the Fall will likely bring a virus disaster and Trump cannot deal with it. It will be the #1 issue - especially when children and teachers alike start dropping.

I believe the republicans know Trump is a bad choice. I think he will probably be forced to resign very shortly. OMG if they don't, Biden or Hillary will absolutely be elected.
I have to say the first sentence is amusing considering everything that followed...

I have always said Trump is a package. You don’t get the polished media schmoozer more back alley street thug. He was not my first choice but I have to admit he has done more actual real world stuff I agree with that the whole Twitter wars becomes background noise.

I am not sure we would have gotten so much policy stuff accomplished with a normal politician. Democrats play dirty and they would sell their own mothers to win an election. With such an entirely corrupt despotic party on one side, Trumps silly twitter wars puts him a thousand miles ahead on the morality meter.

Not to be political or anything...
;)
 

Faroe

Un-spun
Trump is not going to lose because he is being cheated. He's going to lose because the country is being raped by a savage pandemic and he pretends that it doesn't exist. He calls it the "sniffles." Shit. There are refrigerated semis in hospital parking lots in Houston and Phoenix to house morgue overflow. And Trump calls it the sniffles that goes away in 15 minutes. That's a leadership blackhole.

Can I support Biden then? That is the obvious accusation of blind thinkers. He's shitting himself. He's wearing diapers. He jabbers. He talks to dead people and to people that don't exist.

Lesser of two evils.... No. Either choice ends civilization in the US. Do you want to be destroyed or do you want to be destroyed? I would hold my nose and vote for Pence. But not the other two. One has a delusional disorder and the other one has a shitting disorder.
The Phoenix trucks turned out to be a lie. I expect the TX situation was the same. The morgue trucks make for scary press. The only place I think they were actually used was NYC, and the temp. nurses shipped in to work there were apalled (sp ?)by how the patients in the NYC hospitals were handled. Everyone was put on vents, and vents kill - almost w/o fail. The hydroxychlo (however it is spelled) is cheap,safe, and effective, and nurses who had treated Covid cases elsewhere stated emphatically that the difference in outcomes was night and day. Covid is not the problem. Covid is a hoax.

What Trump actually can't control is the Globalist Cabal that runs everything. Huge, many headed monster - maybe with four more years, he can finally get close enough to the damn thing to drive a stake into it...long shot, but I want him to have another term to get that done.
 
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Squid

Veteran Member
Trump is not going to lose because he is being cheated. He's going to lose because the country is being raped by a savage pandemic and he pretends that it doesn't exist. He calls it the "sniffles." Shit. There are refrigerated semis in hospital parking lots in Houston and Phoenix to house morgue overflow. And Trump calls it the sniffles that goes away in 15 minutes. That's a leadership blackhole.

Can I support Biden then? That is the obvious accusation of blind thinkers. He's shitting himself. He's wearing diapers. He jabbers. He talks to dead people and to people that don't exist.

Lesser of two evils.... No. Either choice ends civilization in the US. Do you want to be destroyed or do you want to be destroyed? I would hold my nose and vote for Pence. But not the other two. One has a delusional disorder and the other one has a shitting disorder.
To carry your non politics forward.

You point out the obvious that Biden has apparent cognitive issues, really not sure about the whole diapers thing. But you never seem to approach the rest of the democratic establishment who are pulling the strings and in states and city’s they control torching the Constitution.

Either you ignore the obvious or maybe agree that the rest of country needs to become Seattle or New York. There is not single JFK in the democratic party only Ted K’s and crazy-eyed radicals wanting guillotines and gulags.

The whole focus on Biden is a canard. Everyone look over there why we sneak in your house rob you of your country and your history.

I am watching the people pulling the strings not the clown meant to distract.

Again not to be political.
 

wait-n-see

Veteran Member
I'm starting to wonder if we would be better off letting Trump tap out after the first 4 years.

Strange, did anyone else miss the memo or email from Trump asking for our "permission" to tap out?

TRUMP does what TRUMP wants to do and does not ask for permission from others.

Based on the ton of falsehoods and crap this man and his family has endured since 2015 when he first announced he was running, this MAN is not a quitter and does not tuck his tail between his legs and runs off when there is work still to be done and/or when the going keeps getting rougher.

He is FIGHTING for us.

Thank God he and his family have the strength to carry such a load as they have these past 5 years. He ain't perfect, and I never heard him claim otherwise.

TRUMP 2020 :wvflg:
 

To-late

Membership Revoked
If Trump were to just up and quit right now, this very day. If he gathered up his belongings and walked out the front door wiping his feet as he crossed the threshold. Tossing the keys to the White House over his shoulder as he left.
Nothing would change as far as the lefties pushing against the righties goes. Nothing.

The left would just choose another target. It's not really Trump that they are after.

Trump is just a convenient target. Something to scream at. A statue to pull over and stomp on and spray paint.

The lefts movement toward communism is right now this very day in full swing lock step marching mode. Right out in the open.

If anyone truely believes that President Trump has caused this upheaval they don't have a firm grasp on what is really going on.
 

Eagle 326

Contributing Member
When I was young people used to say I wish we would get somebody other than a politician . Well you got him . He 's a street fighter and speaks clearly . Is it harsh ? Yes but then the truth is always hard to digest .

I'd rather have a president who takes it to the opposition unfiltered than a panty waist politician who speaks P.C. Does it look bad right now ? Maybe it does but it's the end game that counts and those who fear truth speak are those with no spine .

I'll just sit here with my tools and wait patiently for the go signal . just my 2 cents.

Run Low Drive On
 
Look, Trump has got to be tired. If you haven't already done so send him a letter or an email of support and a campaign donation if you can. As flawed as he is, as imperfect as things are, he's about the only hope we've got.
Team Trump "is just in the way." (as noted in an above response or two).

The HOPE has ALWAYS existed within "We, The People®."

May it (always) be.


intothegoodnight
 
"...Independents felt it coming in 2016 and pivoted to the Right...."

Where were they in 2018 when the GOP got slaughtered at the State level and lost the House at the National level. That election just naturally scares the Hell out of me. I could see Trump in with a hostile Congress with nothing but impeachment because this time he would have to testify in the Senate under oath.
He who counts the votes, rules.

The 2018 elections were rife with allegations of Democrat voter fraud in both national and state elections.


intothegoodnight
 

KFhunter

Veteran Member


Or vote against Biden / ??

I wasn't so much a Trump fan in 2015, but I voted for the promise of someone like Gorsuch and Kavanaugh when I voted for Trump, the rest has been a pleasant surprise!

Ok back to Trump, I think he is tired and feeling back into a corner but he has reasons to feel that way.

He may, however, still win the election and I don't really see him quitting unless he felt there was a grave threat to his family, especially his wife or his kids.

And even then, he might just hire more security and send them to live in a fortress somewhere, after all he can afford to do this.

That is also what "they" (probably the CIA etc) hated about Kennedy, he was rich enough not to care and that tidbit was told to me by my Mother in the 1960s (minus the CIA part, I think she said "his enemies.")


Trump does his own polling, and his sitting back being fairly quiet.... tells me his poll numbers are growing exponentially.
 
Progressive ‘fringe and isolate standard OP’ is to portray any Christian politician as an extremist whack job. Basically what the media believes is any Christian is to be destroyed or isolated.

Ever notice how they never use the same tactics on Jewish or Muslims - only Christians? The media and the democratic party is at war with Christianity.
Funny, that . . .

Goes hand-in-glove with this dictum:

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."

— Kevin Alfred Strom


intothegoodnight
 

Mixin

Veteran Member
About that Tulsa thing... Fox, alone, had 8 million viewers according to Forbes. Some millions more watched online through other sources. Families attend Trump rallies and people were hesitant to bring them; easier and safer to watch online and on tv.
 

Chance

Veteran Member
People think Trump is doing 'the name calling' and 'bullying' without just case...we have no idea what he sees and deals with on a daily basis! I'd bet the other side is a hundred times worse, just looking at their Instagram, Twitter, and facebook accounts!

If he didn't call them out, nobody would. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt because he had to step into 'their world' and his family said they were shocked by what they saw.

I can't imagine going from a fairly normal life into one of endless lies, hate, nonstop attacks from most of the media, etc....the crap spewing from the Left would destroy most men.

Everyone has a right to defend themselves, even our president. We don't know the half of it!

The Left is unable to rise above the mire and filth...sometimes you have to go there to take them on! They have treated this president horribly...they aren't hiding behind the curtains any more. Fight them on every level...to clean the toilet you have to get the brush. Take them on wherever you find them.

If Trump didn't throw it back, they'd have him neck deep in dung and we'd think everything was fine for him or worse, what they flung was deserved!!. He's letting us know its really bad out there....much worse than any of us thought.
 
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TorahTips

Membership Revoked
I have to say the first sentence is amusing considering everything that followed...

I have always said Trump is a package. You don’t get the polished media schmoozer more back alley street thug. He was not my first choice but I have to admit he has done more actual real world stuff I agree with that the whole Twitter wars becomes background noise.

I am not sure we would have gotten so much policy stuff accomplished with a normal politician. Democrats play dirty and they would sell their own mothers to win an election. With such an entirely corrupt despotic party on one side, Trumps silly twitter wars puts him a thousand miles ahead on the morality meter.

Not to be political or anything...
;)
Thanks for the response. All I'm trying to say is that we are done as a nation. The president won't even admit there's a virus and the opponent is shitting his pants. The United States has fallen under the damnation of God Almighty. Face the music. It's over.
 

Mikiekimi

I’m just here for the gasoline...
I don't want to make a statement here that is political. I take no political sides. I'm not that simple. Here's what I see. Biden is in trouble. Everyone including his handlers know that he's wearing diapers and that if he goes off script, he has a cognitive crash. I don't understand how that person can even be allowed to seek the high office.

Trump. He's a narcissist. He MUST be in control. When he's not he turns into an 8 year old schoolyard bully. The name calling is so absurd. When a narcissist loses complete control of a situation they can become delusional. He has drifted in and out of that state.

I think -- despite what every scientist has said -- that the virus would just go away. He's said that from the beginning. That is and always has been delusional. Everyone has told him that. when the stay-at-home thing really started to hurt economically, he ordered the nation back to work way ahead of science (not just Fauci). We are now reaping his whirlwind and there will be another round of stay at home orders long before I thought it would happen.

I worked at Macy's. I've been cut permanently. Speaking to my boss on the day I was terminated he said "There's another lockdown coming and Macy's will be done forever." That will be the case with massive numbers of businesses big and small. The US economy will completely collapse.

Trump knows this. As a narcissist he doesn't know what to do. Narcissists MUST control. He CANNOT control what is about to happen to his precious little prefab economy. Worse yet, he cannot control the virus. The only control he has over it is to say that it doesn't exist (delusion).

As the darkness closes in, he becomes more and more desperate. The republicans are watching. Time is running out. They see that the Fall will likely bring a virus disaster and Trump cannot deal with it. It will be the #1 issue - especially when children and teachers alike start dropping.

I believe the republicans know Trump is a bad choice. I think he will probably be forced to resign very shortly. OMG if they don't, Biden or Hillary will absolutely be elected.
Yes, yes, and more yes...cannot be more correct...
 

TorahTips

Membership Revoked
The Phoenix trucks turned out to be a lie. I expect the TX situation was the same. The morgue trucks make for scary press. The only place I think they were actually used was NYC, and the temp. nurses shipped in to work there were apalled (sp ?)by how the patients in the NYC hospitals were handled. Everyone was put on vents, and vents kill - almost w/o fail. The hydroxychlo (however it is spelled) is cheap,safe, and effective, and nurses who had treated Covid cases elsewhere stated emphatically that the difference in outcomes was night and day. Covid is not the problem. Covid is a hoax.

What Trump actually can't control is the Globalist Cabal that runs everything. Huge, many headed monster - maybe with four more years, he can finally get close enough to the damn thing to drive a stake into it...long shot, but I want him to have another term to get that done.
Thanks for your reply. I am respectfully ignoring further statements from you due to your political bias. That is my right on this forum. If you wish to discuss I will entertain as a private msg. The road is about to get real people. Search for truth only without political bias.
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
About that Tulsa thing... Fox, alone, had 8 million viewers according to Forbes. Some millions more watched online through other sources. Families attend Trump rallies and people were hesitant to bring them; easier and safer to watch online and on tv.
That is well and good but Trump gets his jollies out of a full stadium of people inside screaming and yelling and bunch more outside doing the same. He had neither in Tulsa.
 

TorahTips

Membership Revoked
That is well and good but Trump gets his jollies out of a full stadium of people inside screaming and yelling and bunch more outside doing the same. He had neither in Tulsa.
6500 versus 20k inside and another projected 40k outside is a real blow to his historical numbers. Strangest -- absolutely strangest election cycle that I've ever seen. No debates, no daily campaign news.... Strange.
 
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