CHAT Is it time for Trump to throw in the towel? (hypothetical question)

Macgyver

Macgyver

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I'm starting to wonder if we would be better off letting Trump tap out after the first 4 years.
My theory.
The "Orange mad bad" would finally stop.
When it turns to (whatever the want to call Pence) "bad" It would even show more of the world how deranged the left is.

Although I'm not well versed on Pence I do believe he would still beat Biden if thrown into the ring.
Considering 80% of Biden voters are only voting for him because (Orange mad bad).


Pence could do ahead and put him on as an adviser or WH house press secretary. (that would be gold levels of butt hurt)

Just tossing it out there.
Disclaimer: This is not an anti trump post. Just a civil question.
 
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Faroe

Un-spun
Tempting on the surface....
Don't give in to that!
Do you REALLY think that giving these ******* what they want will help things?
Things in the long run, will be even uglier. Concessions to thugs never, ever, ever work. Just a bad idea.

HELL NO!
 
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KFhunter

Veteran Member
All this ugly we're seeing now has always been there, building up and growing. Trump isn't the cause of this ugliness, he's the catalyst, the disrupter. The ugliness was there long before Trump, all it needed was an excuse to surface.

Deal with it now while we can still win, or deal with it later when the odds are greatly against us.
 
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Fly Girl

Veteran Member
WalknTrot said:
Haha! Don't know if you noticed (can't see how not).

The man is not a QUITTER.

Thanks for the morning laugh.
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love this X 1000! Word!
Someone posted on another thread the YouTube fall of the cabal, I’ve been watching it little by little over the past three days it is beyond eye-opening! Runs two hours and 58 minutes but holy cow, stuff I had no clue about!
 
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Doat

Veteran Member
Remember this will be Biden vs Trump but we still don't know who is going to be on the ticket with Biden. That could make a big difference.
 
Milkweed Host

Milkweed Host

Veteran Member
President Trump thrives on controversy. He's wired for conflict and very few people can
function the way he does. We need him in office another four years as this country
cannot survive without him. I hope in his second term, he takes the gloves off and
kicks some F'n ass. There is a lot of stupid that needs to leave the taxpayer tit.

Of course the real unsung hero is his wife as she keeps the home fires burning.
We'd all love to have those legs wrapped around our backs.
I would guess that she is the real VP.
 
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Melodi

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Pence is a DOMINONIST, he is very quiet about it but I really don't want anyone in the Presidency that actually believes the basic idea that it is the place of people to create God's Little Acre here on Earth using a complex set of rules and regulations some of which are based on the Old Testament (selectively, I suspect these guys sometimes wear polyester-cotton clothing) and New Testament stuff as LAWS for EVERYONE, Evangelical Christians or not.

Since I don't know Pence personally (or know anyone who does) I have no idea to what degree he really falls for this stuff; totally hook line and sinker or just a vague idea that it is a Christian's job to build the Kingdom of Christ here on Earth.

When I was 16, I heard a sermon about this, along the lines of "This is what we WILL do" and "We start first with the school boards, go onto the City Councils, State governments, Governors and finally The White House will be claimed for 'God'"

It took them a bit since 1972 but they are now one heartbeat away from the Oval Office, Pence may be a good many in many ways, but if he has the theological underpinnings that I suspect he has (based on his associations) I'd worry about him as President.

He might also have some of the same issues as Trump, though I'd say he does have a lot more political experience which would be a plus in his favor.

Personally I don't want to live in the world of the Taliban, Mulsim, Christian, or Aliens from Outer Space.
 
Melodi

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Milkweed Host said:
President Trump thrives on controversy. He's wired for conflict and very few people can
function that way he does. We need him in office another four years as this country
cannot survive without him. I hope in his second term, he takes the gloves off and
kicks some F'n ass. There is a lot of stupid that needs to leave the taxpayer tit.

Of course the real unsung hero is his wife as she keeps the home fires burning.
We'd all love to have those legs wrapped around our backs.
I would guess that she is the really VP.
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I am not sure about having Malania's legs around my back (and the idea of Trump is along the lines of "if he was the last man on Earth I'd sleep with my Cats) but I do really "Love" the First Lady and I think history is going to be very unkind to some of her critics (or at least I hope so).
 
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Catnip

Veteran Member
Macgyver said:
I'm starting to wonder if we would be better off letting Trump tap out after the first 4 years.
My theory.
The "Orange mad bad" would finally stop.
When it turns to (whatever the want to call Pence) "bad" It would even show more of the world how deranged the left is.

Although I'm not well versed on Pence I do believe he would still beat Biden if thrown into the ring.
Considering 80% of Biden voters are only voting for him because (Orange mad bad).


Pence could do ahead and put him on as an adviser or WH house press secretary. (that would be gold levels of butt hurt)

Just tossing it out there.
Disclaimer: This is not an anti trump post. Just a civil question.
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Absolutely not! Trump has not finished his plan yet and when that's done, we will have the real America back again.
 
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Troke

On TB every waking moment
The campaign has been to get him to quit. And I think he would rather be a quitter than a loser because loser is the ultimate insult. Quitting however, can be fudged (My doc says I am coming down with the Jittering Fantods) so for health reasons I am reluctantly bowing out.

The campaign is to show that he is a sure loser. And you will note the polls.

One thing; A supposed lack of enthusiasm for Joe B. I got news, they are looking in the wrong place. The enthusiasm is in the Never Trumpers. They are absolutely fanatic and I run into them everywhere which makes me a tad uneasy. Allied with them are people 'sick & tired' of Trump and the constant turmoil surrounding the WH. I ran into them last summer, not so much now so maybe they have gone away.

Whatever happens, I hope it is a landslide. Anything less and it will be years before we find out who the POTUS is.
 
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Squid

Veteran Member
Doesn’t really matter, anyone who is in the way is lied about and vilified. Name me one republican President since Eisenhower that the establishment media hasn’t trashed without mercy. All the wimp neocons who continually suck up (and we know who you are ) are praised only when they attack other republicans and conservatives.

To cash it in is to hand these vermin a victory in their slash and burn take no prisoners strategy. These are punk-@$$ bully’s with spell check and there is only one way to deal with bully’s!
 
naegling62

naegling62

Veteran Member
Melodi said:
Pence is a DOMINONIST, he is very quiet about it but I really don't want anyone in the Presidency that actually believes the basic idea that it is the place of people to create God's Little Acre here on Earth using a complex set of rules and regulations some of which are based on the Old Testament (selectively, I suspect these guys sometimes wear polyester-cotton clothing) and New Testament stuff as LAWS for EVERYONE, Evangelical Christians or not.

Since I don't know Pence personally (or know anyone who does) I have no idea to what degree he really falls for this stuff; totally hook line and sinker or just a vague idea that it is a Christian's job to build the Kingdom of Christ here on Earth.

When I was 16, I heard a sermon about this, along the lines of "This is what we WILL do" and "We start first with the school boards, go onto the City Councils, State governments, Governors and finally The White House will be claimed for 'God'"

It took them a bit since 1972 but they are now one heartbeat away from the Oval Office, Pence may be a good many in many ways, but if he has the theological underpinnings that I suspect he has (based on his associations) I'd worry about him as President.

He might also have some of the same issues as Trump, though I'd say he does have a lot more political experience which would be a plus in his favor.

Personally I don't want to live in the world of the Taliban, Mulsim, Christian, or Aliens from Outer Space.
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Dominionist? That actually would be a selling point for his backers instead of a negative, especially Dominion Now Theology.
 
vector7

vector7

Dot Collector
KFhunter said:
All this ugly we're seeing now has always been there, building up and growing. Trump isn't the cause of this ugliness, he's the catalyst, the disrupter. The ugliness was there long before Trump, all it needed was an excuse to surface.

Deal with it now while we can still win, or deal with it later when the odds are greatly against us.
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Milkweed Host said:
President Trump thrives on controversy. He's wired for conflict and very few people can
function that way he does. We need him in office another four years as this country
cannot survive without him. I hope in his second term, he takes the gloves off and
kicks some F'n ass. There is a lot of stupid that needs to leave the taxpayer tit.

Of course the real unsung hero is his wife as she keeps the home fires burning.
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Independents felt it coming in 2016 and pivoted to the Right.

Eight years of Obama fudamentally transformed and loaded the bases. Everything was set in motion, Hillary was supposed to clean up and liquidate the opposition.

Thankfully Trump won and is not a tender politician, he's a brawler.

The masks have now come off and the DNC are Marxist Bolsheviks fomenting this Color Revolution to reclaim power.

Make no mistake the Republic is in a fight for its life this electon.

vector7 said:
Things to ponder...
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vector7 said:
Stand Up: The Level Playing Field (32min) FF to Deepstate/China Connection
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Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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vector7 said:
Independents felt it coming in 2016 and pivoted to the Right.

Eight years of Obama fudamentally transformed and loaded the bases. Everything was set in motion, Hillary was supposed to clean up and liquidate the opposition.

Thankfully Trump won and is not a tender politician, he's a brawler.

The masks have now come off and the DNC are Marxist Bolsheviks fomenting this Color Revolution to reclaim power.

Make no mistake the Republic is in a fight for its life this electon.
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The Hammer

The Hammer

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If Trump is such a pushover that he might as well bow out now while he can, then how come Biden hasn't picked his running mate and started blanketing the airwaves with his presence, declaring himself the de facto president? How come I have yet to hear or see even ONE "Biden for president" ad on TV or radio except maybe one YouTube ad where Stuttering Joe is asking for money like a stumbling old drunk panhandler who doesn't even know where he is?

Methinks the media is turning up the noise to the "Overwhelming" setting with the hope that you'll assume the sky is falling with regard to Trump. They can't afford to reveal that their side has literally nothing except insane mobs and a bumbling idiot "leading" them.
 
Melodi

Melodi

Disaster Cat
naegling62 said:
Dominionist? That actually would be a selling point for his backers instead of a negative, especially Dominion Now Theology.
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Yes, it would be for some, but those of us who really don't want to see our friends and loved ones executed in the public square for their choice of partner (a real view and I've heard it from the pulpit and at least once during a news interview in the 1980s - they went directly to a commercial and the guy was gone) might have different views.

In fact, I would probably personally qualify for execution under a number of the proposed regulations I recall being talked about before I left that church thinking (at age 16): "The Founding Fathers are Rolling Over in Their Graves!"

I totally understand that things have gone too far with (for example) bars being considered essential and churches/houses of worship closed; I get that but I also know what SOME of these peoples actually believe (though they have learned not to talk about it) and it terrifies me.

Pence himself, it all depends on how much of that particular Christian Taliban Koolaid he's internalized (and I don't use that term lightly and I certainly don't paint most Christians with that dominionist brush either).

Ted Cruise being "annotated King of North America" is just the start, except I think someone was a bit premature with their bottle of oil in that case.

Again your mileage may vary and I am not talking about most Christians, even Evangelicals many of whom are real salt of the Earth good people, I am referring to theology which brought into reality would destroy the United States as we know it - it might or might not actually turn into the Fictional Country of Gilead (Handmaid's Tail) but it did partly inspire the original book (and some of the TV series).
 
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Walrus

Veteran Member
WalknTrot said:
The man is not a QUITTER.
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Very true. He's a fighter and despite the weakness of his humanity, he loves this country and wants to fight for it.

I can't imagine voting for anyone else while he's eligible to be el Presidente. Truth be told, I'm at the point where I'd ALMOST consider Putin-style constitutional reforms so he could keep being elected as long as he wanted. If good people like Tom Cotton and Josh Hawley weren't rising through the ranks, I'd almost be past the almost.

One of my sons said a couple years ago that we really owed Donald Trump a lot of gratitude. He didn't need this job and the incessant attacks of people trying to tear him and his whole family apart but he took it on anyways. Time has shown the wisdom of that observation.
 
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MetalMan

Veteran Member
Troke said:
The campaign has been to get him to quit. And I think he would rather be a quitter than a loser because loser is the ultimate insult. Quitting however, can be fudged (My doc says I am coming down with the Jittering Fantods) so for health reasons I am reluctantly bowing out.

The campaign is to show that he is a sure loser. And you will note the polls.

One thing; A supposed lack of enthusiasm for Joe B. I got news, they are looking in the wrong place. The enthusiasm is in the Never Trumpers. They are absolutely fanatic and I run into them everywhere which makes me a tad uneasy. Allied with them are people 'sick & tired' of Trump and the constant turmoil surrounding the WH. I ran into them last summer, not so much now so maybe they have gone away.

Whatever happens, I hope it is a landslide. Anything less and it will be years before we find out who the POTUS is.
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Quitters never win, winners never quit.
 
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Troke

On TB every waking moment
vector7 said:
Independents felt it coming in 2016 and pivoted to the Right.

Eight years of Obama fudamentally transformed and loaded the bases. Everything was set in motion, Hillary was supposed to clean up and liquidate the opposition.

Thankfully Trump won and is not a tender politician, he's a brawler.

The masks have now come off and the DNC are Marxist Bolsheviks fomenting this Color Revolution to reclaim power.

Make no mistake the Republic is in a fight for its life this electon.
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"...Independents felt it coming in 2016 and pivoted to the Right...."

Where were they in 2018 when the GOP got slaughtered at the State level and lost the House at the National level. That election just naturally scares the Hell out of me. I could see Trump in with a hostile Congress with nothing but impeachment because this time he would have to testify in the Senate under oath.
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Troke said:
Where were they in 2018 when the GOP got slaughtered at the State level and lost the House at the National level.
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I’ll tell you where they were. The Marxists lied and said “elect us and we’ll govern like adults. We’ll get things done.”

People decided to give them a chance. We all have seen how that went. People won’t be fooled again.
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Melodi said:
Pence is a DOMINONIST, he is very quiet about it but I really don't want anyone in the Presidency that actually believes the basic idea that it is the place of people to create God's Little Acre here on Earth using a complex set of rules and regulations some of which are based on the Old Testament (selectively, I suspect these guys sometimes wear polyester-cotton clothing) and New Testament stuff as LAWS for EVERYONE, Evangelical Christians or not.
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I wouldn't worry about it much, Pence is where he's at ONLY because he's Trumps veep, period. He'd never win against Biden, he doesn't have the charisma or the tenacity that Trump has to beat that old fart.
 
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Oreally

Right from the start
Macgyver said:
I'm starting to wonder if we would be better off letting Trump tap out after the first 4 years.
My theory.
The "Orange mad bad" would finally stop.
When it turns to (whatever the want to call Pence) "bad" It would even show more of the world how deranged the left is.

Although I'm not well versed on Pence I do believe he would still beat Biden if thrown into the ring.
Considering 80% of Biden voters are only voting for him because (Orange mad bad).


Pence could do ahead and put him on as an adviser or WH house press secretary. (that would be gold levels of butt hurt)

Just tossing it out there.
Disclaimer: This is not an anti trump post. Just a civil question.
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no no no and no again.

incorrect base supposition. pence would not run stronger. people support and will go all the way for Trump because he is, for all his flaws and faults, a street fighter who has been setup , attacked, lied about, betrayed, by the crooked left from day 1(...and we all know why...) and people know and respect that. and he is still there fighting backwith tenacity, in the trenches all the way. he is, in all respects ,a real leader, which is what we need now.
 
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mikeabn

Finally not a lurker!
Troke said:
Trump draws his psychic strength from massive rallies xx over that of his opponent. I think Tulsa was a punch in the gut. Some more of those and we may get a different Trump.
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From what I heard on another site, from War Elephant, the rally was actually well attended. Photos etc were edited to show otherwise. He felt it was a Trump victory. You have a good point about drawing energy from a crowd; maybe a flood of supportive letters will somewhat make up the gap.
 
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Squid

Veteran Member
Melodi said:
Pence is a DOMINONIST, he is very quiet about it but I really don't want anyone in the Presidency that actually believes the basic idea that it is the place of people to create God's Little Acre here on Earth using a complex set of rules and regulations some of which are based on the Old Testament (selectively, I suspect these guys sometimes wear polyester-cotton clothing) and New Testament stuff as LAWS for EVERYONE, Evangelical Christians or not.

Since I don't know Pence personally (or know anyone who does) I have no idea to what degree he really falls for this stuff; totally hook line and sinker or just a vague idea that it is a Christian's job to build the Kingdom of Christ here on Earth.

When I was 16, I heard a sermon about this, along the lines of "This is what we WILL do" and "We start first with the school boards, go onto the City Councils, State governments, Governors and finally The White House will be claimed for 'God'"

It took them a bit since 1972 but they are now one heartbeat away from the Oval Office, Pence may be a good many in many ways, but if he has the theological underpinnings that I suspect he has (based on his associations) I'd worry about him as President.

He might also have some of the same issues as Trump, though I'd say he does have a lot more political experience which would be a plus in his favor.

Personally I don't want to live in the world of the Taliban, Mulsim, Christian, or Aliens from Outer Space.
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Geez

This sounds like it came directly out of CNN so-called political analyst.

Progressive ‘fringe and isolate standard OP’ is to portray any Christian politician as an extremist whack job. Basically what the media believes is any Christian is to be destroyed or isolated.

Ever notice how they Never use the same tactics on Jewish or Muslims Only Christians. The media and the democratic party is at war with Christianity. The parallels between the democratic party and the German National Socialists are too strong to be coincidence. Nazi loving Soro’s has implemented the playbook to have a radical fringe part of society to take power.

If there is an insinuation the media or trolls on social media make on any Christian politician my first reaction is BS, also my second.
 
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