ALERT If you don't have one already, GET A DEBIT CARD ASAP

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
This may not be the case at all. I'm just throwing it out there.....
Are banks broke? Are they going to close to convert to some new system? Something doesn't seem right here...

I can't speak for "all banks" but my credit union furloughed close to half of the tellers and several loan officers. The drive-thru is only open six hours per day, M - F. It is possible to make an appointment to meet with a loan officer if buying a house or car but a note on the website says they are booked two weeks out. I keep only the money I need to pay bills in the bank, so I won't be out that much if they close. I would be upset if I had a large savings account with them.
 

China Connection

TB Fanatic
Um if you have a credit card plus a saving card and things like a pension or wages go into your saving card but you make use of your credit card make sure you have arranged a least a minimum repayment into your credit card from your saving card on a monthly basis.
 

DragonBurrow

Contributing Member
Better yet, get a few loadable debit/credit cards.
Much as everyone hates Walmart, they sell em. Most do not require a fee to load them, and you can put money on them for separate uses. One for utilities, one for gas and groceries, one for online (only) stuff.
Only put the money on it you intend to spend.
This prevents a lot of bad stuff.
Do not link them to any account.

Please read the terms on these cards carefully. Depending on how they are set up you may not be able to pay all of your bills with prepaid debit cards. I know for credit cards there are only a handful set up as a bank account behind the card allowing payments on “other debit” such as credit cards. Most are set up as a credit card voiding some options.

Also new rules are starting to trickle down about paying mortgage or rent payments via credit card. I will do a separate post once all the details are in hand.
 

DragonBurrow

Contributing Member
Please be careful with debit cards. ( The ones with MasterCard and Visa logos) I once had 24k taken out of my checking account fraudulently by someone and it took my bank 90 days to put the money back after they did an investigation. And... I was lucky, they didn't have to return the money at all.. A reloadable is a good idea that way your losses are limited to just what you load onto it.

Credit card disputes are regulated to be resolved within 90 days. Many banking institutions will take the full time allowed.
 

ktrapper

Veteran Member
They're trying that here. Half of the lanes are self-checkout. I refuse to use them. I will stand behind someone with two full carts with me only having one or two items. I've had several interesting conversations with others in my line of the same bent: "I don't work here." If you want to give me a discount for using your self-checkout, then I might consider it. Otherwise, you can go pound sand. I WILL use a self-checkout, however, if its what I deem necessary (sick child, etc.). Otherwise, nope.
My wife and I went to Walmart for groceries late one night in Missoula after my flight was delayed getting in. It was around 1 am. We had a buggy full, got up to the check out, no one checking out, self check only. I asked the lady what the heck?
She said, oh I will help you.
Yep, darn right you will, or you can go put this stuff back. In fact I ain’t touching it, until it’s bagged and I have my receipt because I don’t work here. If I got to do then you give me a 10% discount.
She checked it, bagged it, and I left. Never been to Walmart since.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Most Irish businesses stopped accepting cash a number of weeks ago as a "safety" measure and suddenly, after banks saying for several years that bank "transfers" (which was the older way people did this sort of things when paying for a lot of stuff like the milkman) are suddenly not only "possible" but encouraged.

That and bankcards of pre-paid debit cards are pretty much the only way to pay right now - some stores still do accept cash but most have signs saying cards are preferred and others simply can't/won't take cash at all.
 

ktrapper

Veteran Member
Please read the terms on these cards carefully. Depending on how they are set up you may not be able to pay all of your bills with prepaid debit cards. I know for credit cards there are only a handful set up as a bank account behind the card allowing payments on “other debit” such as credit cards. Most are set up as a credit card voiding some options.

Also new rules are starting to trickle down about paying mortgage or rent payments via credit card. I will do a separate post once all the details are in hand.
I have my land payment coming out as a direct draft from my bank account.
I also have it set up where I can pay ahead or on the principle at any time through my online account.
I seen this coming long before the Corona Scaredemic. We have three different Credit Union Accounts all are shared branch Co-ops.
I can go into one here In Utah or in Montana or any state and move money from the one we have in AK to the one in Utah or vice versa.
That way if my debit card becomes compromised at one I have back up. And if for some reason we have a terror act, flights get grounded, and I get stuck in AK for a while no biggie, I can grab my spare pickup in AK and head to the cabin until it blows over.

Above all things folks you got to think ahead of these idiots running the country. Don’t ever get to comfortable. Diversify with money, living situations, skills, food, etc etc. Always have a back up plan to your back up plan.
 

stormie

Veteran Member
parsonswife I get charged the % no matter what I take, credit or debit.

I guess I'm the only one still writing checks. I've had no issues but I'm sure they are on the endangered list too. I've never owned a debit card and around here, they are still taking everything as far as I know.

I've never used self check out and will not until it's forced on me.
I still carry a couple of checks with me. A few years ago I was in the check out at the grocery store when suddenly all the registers stopped working. We all stood in line waiting a while for them to come back up. When it appeared that wasn't happening any time soon the managers told us the only people they could check out were those with cash or check. I happened to have a check with me so I was able to pay and get out with my groceries. That may not be how it works now, but I'll keep being the dinosaur carrying checks.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
I've had my Debit card number compromised at least three times, and every time the bank has restored what was stolen. It may take a day or two. As much as I don't like my bank, they have always come through on this.

FWIW, I use Chase. I figured that with their relationship with the Federal Reserve they'd be one of the last banks standing when things go kablooey.
I understand, but they are not required to do so buy law unlike a credit card. This to me is a big difference.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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they will simply tell you "sorry, no cash, only digital money - and then they will give you a debit card"
the fed can create as much digital money as needed
What’s your point? If you have xxxx in your account, and you have access to xxxx dollars to buy things, your “money” (however you choose to define it) wasn’t “lost.” And if you’re one of those for whom only gold and silver is “money”, and if you have xxxx in a bank account, isn’t that blatant hypocrisy? Because you can’t “spend” gold and silver. You have to convert it first. That’s the exact equivalent of being “given a debit card.”
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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BTW Dennis, thx for the tip about the cash app. Very convenient!
Can load the 'card' from home.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Hell, you can load the app sitting at the traffic light.

In order to make proper use of it though, you have to get the "physical card". Yes, there is a "Cash App Debit Mastercard" (I think it's MC; might be Visa.) In order to get the card you have to connect a bank account to Cash App, then request a physical card from the app. Once it arrives (about a week), you can then load that card through the app. It's just another debit card at that point.
 

Warthog

Black Out
To hell with Mickey D's. How about the grocery store, the hardware store, etc, etc, etc?

These days, most all debit cards can be used as credit cards. Just answer the question on the card reader "NO" when asked "Is this a debit card?"
Sure can, it will allow you to bypass your PIN.
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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Hell, you can load the app sitting at the traffic light.

In order to make proper use of it though, you have to get the "physical card". Yes, there is a "Cash App Debit Mastercard" (I think it's MC; might be Visa.) In order to get the card you have to connect a bank account to Cash App, then request a physical card from the app. Once it arrives (about a week), you can then load that card through the app. It's just another debit card at that point.
Yup, saw that and ordered the card.
 

1911user

Veteran Member
For these "cash app" debit cards, is there a backup if you lose your cell phone or the card? It seems to make everything so inter-dependent.
 

naturallysweet

Has No Life - Lives on TB
for those of you who won't do credit cards and are afraid of using your debit card. Your bank will open for you a second bank account just to use for debit card purchases.I would advise you to find a bank with low to no service fees if you're going to do this.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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for those of you who won't do credit cards and are afraid of using your debit card. Your bank will open for you a second bank account just to use for debit card purchases.I would advise you to find a bank with low to no service fees if you're going to do this.
"Cash App" is that exact thing, but app-based.
 

rob0126

Veteran Member
for those of you who won't do credit cards and are afraid of using your debit card. Your bank will open for you a second bank account just to use for debit card purchases.I would advise you to find a bank with low to no service fees if you're going to do this.

Credit Unions usually are free. I would use 2 accts. One for fund storage and the other for regular debit card. Most have apps now so you can bounce funds back and forth between accts.
 

SageRock

Veteran Member
I just wanted to post this up as a public service announcement. It looks like cash buys are going away for an indeterminate period. I know that many of you eschew the use of plastic. I felt motivated to "nudge" you to get one as quickly as you can. When all this is over, you can burn it. Until then, you may not be able to buy food or other supplies without one.

Someone put the bug in your ear on this? Special info from a special friend?
 

TorahTips

Membership Revoked
Just now had to provide exact change or plastic for Whataburger, San Antonio, Tx.
That's the trick. They know that the average person on the street -- even if they do have some cash on them -- will not have exact change. For example, I have $20 on me right now. If I went for coffee and it was $3.18 I would be forced to use a card.
 

West

Senior
That's the trick. They know that the average person on the street -- even if they do have some cash on them -- will not have exact change. For example, I have $20 on me right now. If I went for coffee and it was $3.18 I would be forced to use a card.

Ha! I usually have at least a buck fifty in change.

But granted, never have been average, :D.
 

SAPPHIRE

Veteran Member
Today, first time, King Soopers (aka Kroger), asked for card payment or they'd round it up to next dollar for cash......huh.......raised a little stink and paid with cash and coin ......I know about the cashless thing to come asap......but until they won't back down I'll use cash as I choose and card when they don't demand it........the times comes when no man can buy or sell w/o the damnable mark
 

kittyluvr

Veteran Member
I was in the CVS in Jackson, CA on Wednesday and their was no problem paying with cash and receiving all my change ($ and cents).
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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What is the nature of prepping? Two is one and one is none. If you have no “backup” for cash, and cash stops being accepted for some period of time, yer fooked laddie. It’s really just that simple.

You choose.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
I will never have a debit card.

Many years ago I had one. I used it at a retailer I had used it at before. I was about to enter my PIN when the clerk said no need it was already in their system. I used a credit card for that transaction instead. Then I immediately went to the bank and cancelled the debit card.

Another reason I won't have a debit card is because some years ago, I was robbed in Paris France (subway escalator double team front and back shove and hand into the front pocket; I shoved back and found my wallet missing a half hour later) and was able to cancel my credit card and reverse the charges. If I'd had a debit card the robbers would have gotten a lot of money and merchandise.

Gas pumps sometimes have skimmers. If a debit card is used, the skimmers will clean out your account.

NEVER OWN OR USE A DEBIT CARD. IF YOU HAVE ONE CUT IT UP AND CANCEL IT.
There is a simple app for your cell phone that will detect bluetooth gas pump skimmers. I use it every time I get gas.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
I don't use cash at all except to buy occasional lottery tickets. I don't carry cash in my wallet. I keep my lotto money at home until I need it. I use lots of hand sanitizer if I handle cash. Cash is filthy.
True, and that is the reason a lot of places are now requesting contactless payment via card or phone.
Disney opened today in Florida and signs are posted saying a lot of places there will not accept cash.
Cash will be another casualty of Covid. The gateway disease that will change societal norms in the US.

By the way in today's world cards are also going away and phones are becoming more and more popular. As big brother goes further and further, you may one day be required to have a phone with all your personal info on it and like in China have to use it to buy almost everything. You lose your phone you are screwed. You can't buy transportation or anything. Also you have to carry your phone around so it can spy on you.
Coming to FUSA after the election if Trump doesn't win. :shk:
 
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TerryK

TB Fanatic
True, and that is the reason a lot of places are now requesting contactless payment via card or phone.
Disney opened today in Florida and signs are posted saying a lot of places there will not accept cash because of Covid.

Covid will eventually be called the gateway disease because it will usher in major societal changes. :(


By the way in today's world cards are also going away and phones are becoming more and more popular. As big brother goes further and further, you may one day be required to have a phone with all your personal info on it and like in China have to use it to buy almost everything. You lose your phone you are screwed. You can't buy transportation or anything. Also you have to carry your phone around so it can spy on you.
Coming to FUSA after the election if Trump doesn't win. :shk:
 

biere

Veteran Member
You can get plastic cards at walmart and elsewhere that you load with cash. I dislike using the debit card attached to my bank account cause it can get hacked. Heck, it has been hacked and never ever used before.

Bluebird or something like that for walmart card and there are others.

Paypal offers a credit card of some sort, never looked into it but I get emails now and then cause I use paypal sometimes.

If you get a 2nd bank account set up you could use its debit card perhaps. Even discover will do online banking and everything for you and you can transfer money into its account for use and keep your main account safe.

Personally if this really gets some traction I would abuse em with exact change for a while cause I got coffee cans of coins I keep meaning to take in.
 
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