PREP Regardless of What You Think About the Virus, Things Are About to Change

Hfcomms

EN66iq
Regardless of What You Think About the Virus, Things Are About to Change


10-12 minutes


by Toby Cowern

It’s important to not work on “assumptions.” It’s very easy for us to think about points but then conclude, “Everybody knows that, everybody sees that, everybody’s already understood that. Working from that position undermines that it is possible people haven’t seen or acknowledged or observed certain things.

So this is just a “basic outlook.” Let’s take stock of where are we now.

The larger focus is still on the pandemic but also making sure we look into some aspects on either side of that fact. Regardless of your personal opinion about the virus, things will change for everyone with the second wave.


First, there’s GOING to be a second wave.
Firstly, we need to accept there is going to be a second viral wave. That is inevitable. That is absolutely inevitable. Now, regardless of your feelings on how bad the pandemic is, how lethal the virus is, what you think of the statistics, or the reporting, etc. I am not going to say that’s irrelevant, but I am going to say that it doesn’t undermine is the fact there’s going to be a second wave. Secondly, for any virus that spreads in the general population spread, there is always a risk of mutations, so just because we could say it hasn’t potentially been “that bad” until now, doesn’t mean that’s the status quo, and it’s going to stay the same.

So let’s first acknowledge those two things.

Now, here’s what’s important about that. Looking at historical trend analysis, which is fairly substantive, the second wave is always going to be worse than the first, not only in infection and fatality numbers but also in overall impact. And why is that? The fact is, the number spike will largely be due to people’s actions as they come out of the lockdown of wave one.

We’re already seeing that:
  • people are (understandably) demonstrating their frustration and venting their concerns
  • gathering in large groups
  • not following certain advice to minimize the potential infection spread
That’s happening and it’s happening worldwide. It is not exclusive to any country. Many, many countries are suffering from this same problem. This isn’t speculative. You can all see this occurring with your own eyes. So these actions are going to be reflected in wave two infection numbers.

For those countries already into the second wave, you can see that wave one is being dwarfed. For those that are not into the wave two yet, don’t worry, unfortunately, you’ll catch up in time.



Government measures
Now, the control measures that the government will try to utilize for wave two will initially be the same actions as wave one, but they just won’t be as readily accepted by the vast majority of the population that came through wave one. People are tired, they are frustrated and angry, and they are scared, largely due to exceptionally irresponsible media action.

So now it gets a bit more ‘wild west’ as the policy for wave two tries to replicate the policy for wave one, but the general populace is not as inclined to comply as it previously was.

That will vary from region to region and country to country as to how vehemently these measures will be pushed back against. The other thing to consider is that people have now had far longer and got far more information to make up their mind on how they feel about certain things. People went into wave one really in the dark. They were able to look at the historical pandemic examples, but not much more. Now, people have read up and formed their own opinion, and begun to crystallize their own thought processes AND will act (or refuse to act) accordingly.


The supply chain
All the problems that occurred in wave one will reoccur in wave two, possibly with more consequences and/or potentially with a deeper meaning. Let’s start with the supply line.

The weakening of the supply lines that has occurred, the lack of certain products, the panic buying, the herd mentality – that’s all still there, and large parts still ‘unsolved’ and it’s going to happen again, it’s inevitable. Things are not “going back to normal.”

I hate to say it, but people in packs, follow very set scripts. They are very predictable in their behavior. That is why we can make statements such as these with good authority. And as much as the suppliers are trying to assure us wave one was ‘well managed’ and ‘not that bad’, reports from various places are showing the contradiction that there was, is, and WILL BE impact on the supply line.


Financial problems
Now, there’s a twofold solution to these problems we are highlighting. One is just to keep preparing to always be prepared, keep chipping away, bit by bit, keep making your purchases, keep your stocks up.

But unfortunately, a lot of people got massive economic hits in wave one. So many are likely limited in their financial ability prepare via purchase. That we fully understand and sympathize with.

Things are going to be different for most of us.


Managing expectations
That brings us to the next point, and I would apply this across the board, regardless of your current situation, is you need to start managing your own and your immediate family’s expectations. You need to start thinking in terms of this:
“As supplies dwindle and prices increase, we need to eat more simply, to accept things as they are. We might have to eat less meat, or in fact, we might just have to eat less food.”
Period.

Now this is very challenging because you will still naturally want to push back to get that “normalcy.” You’ll think, “Why should I have to *insert selected discomfort here*?”

Unfortunately, far too many people in the preppersphere were preparing on the basis of:
“My lifestyle is never going to be interrupted no matter what.”
When we’re into a long-term scenario, such as this pandemic, there are going to be uncomfortable impacts for everybody.
There will be a point when you will start to feel the impact after you’ve gone as far as you can in your familiar lifestyle and kept to your original standards for as long as possible. If we are being honest, many of you are already at this point.

As much as you can adjust your mental attitude early and acknowledge and start to accept that the impact is happening, or coming, and will worsen, it positions you to be far more resilient further into this pandemic. Because that, folks, is where we are.

We are a LONG way from the end of this.


We can’t relax our preparations.
I’ve been having a number of very interesting online conversations lately, and the phrase that keeps re-occurring is that we’ve been given a “slow-burning virus.” In this modern, insanely paced world, it seems that everybody wanted to have a simple, quick ‘zombie apocalypse’, and in two weeks, it’s all over. Then we kind that we go from there, rebuild, and move on…

Sorry, but there is nothing fast about true pandemics in overall terms. This is going to be around for some time, and everybody is going to have to adapt, overcome, improvise, and all that good stuff. And the sooner we start wrapping our heads around that, the better.

To add to this, while focusing on the pandemic, we can’t forget the relevant regional and or seasonal issues we would normally prepare for. For example, we’re now entering into a very high risk for wildfires here, where I live in Sweden. Other folks will be bracing for tornado seasons, hurricane or flooding seasons, or different natural occurrences. So we can’t just get fixated on just one thing. That’s never what preparedness has been about.

We have to deal with a pandemic, yes, but we must be looking at these other issues as well being aware and maintaining our preparations accordingly, rounding off, topping up, adjusting like we normally try to do for every season of every year, and ideally, a little bit beyond…


What to do right now
Now is not the time to get caught up in the immediacy of whatever the media wants you to focus on first. It’s time to stop and take a concerted long view of where you perceive you will be in six to twelve months from now.

As an actionable activity, I would advise everybody to take a pause and definitely turn off the television. I would advise you to give yourself 24 hours totally off social media and media of any sort at some point this week. Give yourself the time, space, and place to think, sit down, and acknowledge the situation you’re at personally. Think about your long term plans in earnest.

Selco and I have been doing this for the last few weeks. We’ve had very intense discussions with our spouses, near relatives, friends and extended family. We’ve been coming up with contingencies A, B, and C, thinking about what our long-term plans are, and where we are at in all of this. If you haven’t already done so, now is the time to be doing this.

You need to be having these conversations with loved ones as well. Please don’t make those conversations too oppressive. Remember, everybody’s having a hard time right now. Have big conversations, but please, just go easy as you approach these subjects. Don’t ignore them, don’t put them off, but don’t rip into them with such tenacity that it’ll shut down the other party’s interest in the discussion.

TL;DR:
  • Accept the longevity of our current situation.
  • Keep preparing.
  • Adopt a new level of a resilient mindset that will embrace discomfort
  • Take a concerted pause to assess your long term goals.
  • Ensure you communicate with those around you in a clear, concise, but empathetic manner.
About Toby
Toby Cowern has an extensive background in the military, emergency services, risk management, and business continuity, combined with applied wilderness and urban survival skills. He discusses personal safety, security, and the crossover of military skills to the average civilian.

 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
_______________
I think calling it a "wave" is a misnomer. This isn't the influenza virus. Most of the recent infections can be linked, even if it is just theoretically, to the destructive suppression method that is being used.

This virus is here to stay. Deal with it. If you fall into the category of medical fragility then you need to be prepared to drop out of society unless you are willing to take a chance and catch it or not. However, you cannot expect to have constructive protection by waiting around for other people to build your bunker for you. If you are waiting around for other people to take care of your safety measures for you just go ahead and paint a target on your forehead.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
Look at the past five months or so as a dry run. What did you run out of? What holes did you find when certain things on the shelves dried up, etc. Even if the Covid was over today as we all know there is no returning to 'normal' anymore for a myriad of reasons not the least of which is the financial system being tattered, huge job losses not coming back and the social unrest being funded by those that wish to do us harm.

Have to think long term here as much as possible.
 

nchomemaker

Veteran Member
I don't know what else to do. I started a rabbitry, will have young ones to butcher this fall and winter. I have young chickens half of them will be butchered and put in the freezer. Speaking of which I need to buy one but I really don't have the room in this small house so what to do? Grains, beans and rice, and vegetables we are good on. I'll be canning more from the garden, I have worked very hard to expand the garden this year and will be adding fruit trees and raspberry bushes. I'll add to the medical preps soon. I have the supplies and making bread is a weekly thing I already do. So I just really need help knowing what else it is I need to do. I gave up on the normalcy a long time ago because I believe we are in the last days and experiencing the birth pangs Jesus talked about would happen before He returns. They have gotten worse and I am expecting them to get a whole lot worse soon.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
_______________
Look at the past five months or so as a dry run. What did you run out of? What holes did you find when certain things on the shelves dried up, etc. Even if the Covid was over today as we all know there is no returning to 'normal' anymore for a myriad of reasons not the least of which is the financial system being tattered, huge job losses not coming back and the social unrest being funded by those that wish to do us harm.

Have to think long term here as much as possible.

Excellent advice. I found that some of the stuff that I've had prepped just isn't sufficient to keep people in this house that have gone all healthy and crap the last couple of years satisfied. It doesn't even tempt them. Not even when they were hard up and hungry. Sigh. At least we stocked up on fuel when it was still under 2 bucks a gallon. And a lot of the preps aren't even food related. I ran out of lithium wd40. It is what I keep our gate chain sprayed with. ARGH! It is the little stuff like that just up and disappearing that drives me crazy.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Make sure you all look here:CORONA - COVID-19 Close To Losing Its Epidemic Status In The US, According To The CDC

Though there ain't any Patience there.

BUT I have a very friendly liquor store and find that a good dark Red or Port, or a glass of Makers or Wild Turkey Rare Breed, will add a LOT to my patience level.

That and ripping through a couple of hundred rounds at the Range help a LOT.

As will some Burbon Iced Tea. But only with the GOO-OO-OOD STUF for it to work
 

hiwall

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Firstly, we need to accept there is going to be a second viral wave. That is inevitable. That is absolutely inevitable.
This statement is pure speculation.
While I think there will be continued and maybe even more people who get the virus, that is only a guess on my part.
Hfcomms is correct that it doesn't matter. We (as a country) have already done things that set in motion other bad things to follow. Prep up now.
 

TxGal

Day by day
Just a heads up regarding preps and unexpected issues. I'd posted about this on the food shortages thread, and the issue has since worsened. FYI, all the below is due to the virus according to all I've spoken with (people put off repairs because they didn't want repair folks in their home, and it's all stacked up).

We purchased a new fridge gosh, I think back in Feb. It was finally delivered at the end of March/early April. It wasn't the brand we wanted (Frigidaire), but by the time we ordered the frenzy had begun so we got stuck with a GE. It's been in service three months, and it will not cool. Still under the 1 yr warranty, and heck, we bought the extended warranty. So, we called Lowes where we purchased it, GE the manufacturer, and now GE Cares because we're rural and they have to outsource it. Oh...my...gosh. We are 3 weeks out for a repair call.

We have a little dorm fridge which is keeping us sane at the moment, but we lost most of the food in the fridge. We've been discussing just buying a new one - again - to get past this, and they're near impossible to get. Discussing getting another dorm fridge, and they're almost impossible to get.

Honestly, sometimes I feel like I went to sleep in the USA and woke up in Russia. Be ready for anything.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
a glass of Makers or Wild Turkey Rare Breed

I will admit to my first visits to the local alphabet store (aka ABC Store in NC) since we moved up here. Just cheap Everclear, vodka and rum, for medicinal purposes only of course.
 

fish hook

Deceased
I don't know what else to do. I started a rabbitry, will have young ones to butcher this fall and winter. I have young chickens half of them will be butchered and put in the freezer. Speaking of which I need to buy one but I really don't have the room in this small house so what to do? Grains, beans and rice, and vegetables we are good on. I'll be canning more from the garden, I have worked very hard to expand the garden this year and will be adding fruit trees and raspberry bushes. I'll add to the medical preps soon. I have the supplies and making bread is a weekly thing I already do. So I just really need help knowing what else it is I need to do. I gave up on the normalcy a long time ago because I believe we are in the last days and experiencing the birth pangs Jesus talked about would happen before He returns. They have gotten worse and I am expecting them to get a whole lot worse soon.
Very easy to can those chickens,no need for a freezer.If you do that you don't have to worry about power interruptions.Win win,i love winning.
 

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
I managed to score a 5 cuft freezer at walmart for $169. I would have put it in the living room but I found space in the mud room/DH's office. It does not take up all that much space and its so handy, my other freezers are not in the house. This freezer holds a lot and it has allowed me to get things out of my two house refrigerator freezer so things don't fall out when I open the doors. I may even have space in the fridg freezers for ice trays, we usually have no ice on hand.

All of a sudden it just started raining cats and dogs and I didn't have to go outside to get something for supper.

God is good all the time.

Judy
 

hiwall

Has No Life - Lives on TB
We don't need another "wave". The virus is here and it is not going anywhere. Sooner or later it is likely that most people will get it. And they might get it again and again. Who knows?
 

seraphima

Veteran Member
The regional stay-home mandates held off the first wave in a lot of places. Now, with the reopenings, and with people just doing whatever they want, the virus is spreading rapidly again; just the first wave still.
We know what works- stay home, or away from people, use masks if inside stores, etc. , wash hands if you have been near people, live outdoors and in the sun as much as possible, away from people.
That means prepping to do what works, in particular to stay home.
I doubt we are anywhere near a second wave yet. Please God, I hope we don't get one. Like tsunamis, second waves are usually bigger and more destructive. Lord, have mercy!
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Something tells me we will have a new/different/more deadly virus, not just a second wave. If not this fall then later. The globalist control freaks WILL achieve capitulation from the masses at whatever cost - to us. Masks are only the tip of the global control iceberg. You ain't seen nothing yet. This is not just prepping for the next viral outbreak, this is prepping for the rest of your life.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
the government has discovered many new things they can do and people are not just ok, they demand it.
they demand you wear a mask, business has hired people as "social monitors". it is so High School.

But that is minor. Masks are minor. The government has discovered they can simply tell vast sectors of the economy to just go home from work and not come back - and they do it.
How about work from home? Employers are going to figure out in short order that they do not need brick and mortar buildings - ever think about the impact to construction. Not only buildings but roads. And cars, and gas stations.
And all those pigeons that live in metro areas . . . and the homeless banking on the handouts . . . and the poor inner cities. The poor are going to have to move to the suburbs because there is not going to be inner cities.
And every retailer and their brother is figuring out how to deliver product from their brick and mortar store to your door - until they figure out there is no use for their brick and mortar so they convert acres of empty parking lot to drive in theaters.
And they can't get coins and cash so everything is going to plastic and normal people will no longer have any understanding of basic math because not one can count change.
And parents who can't send their kids to school are going to protest paying property taxes to build schools that their kids can;t attend.
And property taxes for police and fire that don't exist - because no one is going to respond to a fire without the cops being there.

change? change is already here and is moving at light speed.
catch up
BTW, there will likely be no cars by 2030. the person that figures out how that will look will be very wealthy indeed
And who ever figures out what they are going to do about money - cause that shit will not be the same by this time next year.
 

dvo

Veteran Member
Make sure you all look here:CORONA - COVID-19 Close To Losing Its Epidemic Status In The US, According To The CDC

Though there ain't any Patience there.

BUT I have a very friendly liquor store and find that a good dark Red or Port, or a glass of Makers or Wild Turkey Rare Breed, will add a LOT to my patience level.

That and ripping through a couple of hundred rounds at the Range help a LOT.

As will some Burbon Iced Tea. But only with the GOO-OO-OOD STUF for it to work

Vodka iced tea isn’t bad either. I have to try the bourbon variety, but not use top shelf brands.
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Wonder how Sweden is doing with it's second wave.



Sweden's population is over 8.8 million.

For comparision, the Tampa Bay Metro Area, including Tampa, St. Petersburg and Clearwater, is about 3.1 million est.

Sweden has reported 73263 total cases, according to the above website.
They have reported 5465 deaths. Deaths as a percentage of reported cases, about 7.5%

Hillsborough County, including Tampa:
Total Cases: 14,677
Deaths: 158

Deaths as a percentage of reported cases in Tampa, just over 1%


Pinellas County, including St. Petersburg & Clearwater:
Total Cases: 8,759
Deaths: 199

Deaths as a percentage of reported cases in Pinellas County, about 2.2%


It appears we may be doing much better than Sweden, either in managing the care of the infected, or doing a much better job of testing and tallying cases.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
Officials are playing games with the numbers. Here in Iowa, if you test positive, you are assumed to be "recovered" after 28 days, unless the health department is informed otherwise. That change kicked our number of recovered Iowa residents to 62%

I have decided to do a daily walk or bike ride early, keep up with the Elderberry, etc., avoid crowds, and continue to limit shopping to one morning per week, less if local cases continue to increase. That's my routine for now.
 

EYW

Veteran Member
I like Bill Still. In 2016, I followed him and the presidential poll he was following. Nailed it! Before the election, I told my husband what was going to happen and he looked a little disbelieving. On election night, he was up at his liberal brother's visiting with his sister that came over from Denmark for a month or so. Bro was incredulous. but when my husband said, "This is exactly what my wife said would happen," he lost it. Went off on my husband for voting for Trump because of husband's "hobby" -- guns. lol My husband was not really sure about voting for Trump, but he did not see an alternative and did not want to throw away his vote. Now he is so glad he voted for Trump.

Anyway, slight thread drift for Bill Still. I would urge everyone to listen to him if they can on his YouTube channel. He does quote a scripture on each video.
 
Top