RACE WAR White People Own 98 Percent of Rural Land. Young Black Farmers Want to Reclaim Their Share.

Faroe

Un-spun
Yeah...

That hoe is brand new.

All that jury (jewelry)

Shirt/dress is straight from the cleaners.

Cornrows in her hair is the closest shes ever been to farming. No hat, wait 'til that scalp gets a striped sunburn. :lol:
When I milked, I frequently got cow shit in my hair. There is also the occasional slap across the face with the manure covered, mud soaked tail. No dangley ear rings, no long necklaces. Thorn scratches that sting when you sweat, chigger bites, mosquito bites...don't forget to check for ticks, try not to let any blisters pop open. Once I banged my head against a wasp's nest, while clipping some heavy overgrowth.

It's not a damn fashion shoot!
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
How many of these WANNABE black farmers have actually worked on a REAL farm? I have and it's a LOT OF HARD WORK for not very much return. How many of these supposed farmers have shoveled shit? Seriously. When my high school students asked what was the hardest and worst job I've ever had, my answer was Herdsman" and I shoveled shit!! Worked on a Farrowing Outfit in Colorado everyday, in every type of weather, no time off, every day in and day out. For those non-country folks a farrowing outfit is a farm that breeds and raises "feeder piglets" for finishing farms. We had over 5000 sows and each sow averaged 12 to 20+ piglets per sow twice a year.....that's 120,000 to 200,000 PLUS feeder pigs per year. Oh and by the way. Pigs poop their weight in poop a month. Don't even add that up....it's beyond belief. Gilts and sows weight anywhere from 250 to 800+ pounds each.

I actually loved my work until a breeder boar attacked and tried to kill me. I still have the scars to prove it. Took one of three of the tusk slashes to the back of my thigh nearly to the bone. One fricken crazy boar. I've had pig poop kicked into my face, eyes, nose, mouth and anywhere else poop can land when 30 to 40 pigs decide to run around the pens. Oh and that awesome bouquet you wear home.....gorgeous! Ode de poo!!

Farming is hard, dirty, shitty and dangerous. How many of these inner city GHETTO TURDS are willing to work that hard? My guess....zero to NONE! Too many generations of handouts, welfare and stupidity. Too much competition from CORPORATE FARMS, too many restrictions, too much bad luck, too much bad weather and too much disease as well as whatever other crap comes along. Yeah....farming is easy.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
White People Own 98 Percent of Rural Land. Young Black Farmers Want to Reclaim Their Share.

First of all, lets DITCH THE IDEA THAT THERE IS ANY "YOUR SHARE OF....(Whatever) Because of your skin color.
Nothing and nobody including God grants you "your share" of whatever. There IS NO SUCH THING FOR ANYONE OF ANY COLOR! That is a COMMUNIST mindset that demands that kind of world without REAL individual rights and freedoms.
That kind of Communist thinking completely OUTLAWS and FORBIDS INDIVIDUAL SUCCESS AND PROSPERITY that passes those who do not work as hard or risk as much or don't have the self-discipline to suffer the difficulties and self-denial that true, EARNED SUCCESS requires AND REWARDS. The rewards of their hard work would be stripped from them under a Communist system that dismisses "merit" from rewards.

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GO READ THE WHOLE article that accompanies the photo in"Mother Earth magazine.
SHE IS NOT REALLY FARMING.
She is still on a government "teat" or "welfare for a black farmer" a government program to pay her to give free or "whatever you wanna pay" food to "immigrants" and other protected classes.
(snip)
But her attitude shifted in her teen years, when she passed by a flyer advertising summer jobs for the Food Project, a program in eastern Massachusetts that trains young people to grow food and distribute it to hunger relief organizations and farmer’s markets. After a summer in the soil, she was hooked.


And after more than 20 years of growing food all over the world, she realized that it wasn’t a lack of interest keeping African Americans out of agriculture—but instead historical exclusion, discrimination, and intimidation. “A lot of farmers and networks have talked about how their white neighbors don’t want them around and so their animals disappear,(Maybe, like other farm animals, they escaped their pen?) they get cops called on them( for what? WHY? she doesn't say why.) ( or unexplained damages,” (happens on all farms) she said. “Because of fear of aggression, a lot of elders are giving away their lands.” On top of that, she felt like an outsider (Lady, your FEELINGS don't matter!) at farm conferences with mostly white participants, and training programs that left out (obsolete, inefficient, primitive, less productive, uneconomical, unsanitary, hobby farming level?) black and indigenous techniques and traditions.

(snip)
We’re growing food in a regenerative Afro-indigenous manner and providing it to 100+ families who need it the most. We center on refugees, immigrants, and people impacted by mass incarceration, and people can pay whatever they can afford. Literally providing sustenance in the community is the most important thing. For many years, we had a program that was a diversion from juvenile detention. (you mean FREE LABOR? White farmers don't enjoy that bennie) fortunately, the county shut down that program, but we still work with those who could be at risk for the school to prison pipeline to provide a space that is affirmative of their worth and shows them the possibility of being able to attain their dreams. (right, free BLACK labor under another "program") When they see mentors who look like them, who aren’t necessarily working for corporations or aren’t locked up, that hopefully opens up possibilities of agency.

Can you IMAGINE any real farmer expecting to get enough money to support his family and run a farm, providing SOME food (only at harvest time, what they happen to grow, when it is ripe) to only 100 families at what ever they can or want to pay him for it?? These people are NOT dealing with truth or reality. Taxpayers are paying for that food. She has little or no accountability or real responsibility. She probably only has food to distribute during harvest time, not year round, not when the crop is wormy or damaged etc. I don't count her effort AT ALL as a successful, valid, black "farm". They simply CANNOT COMPETE WHEN THE SAME RULES ARE APPLIED AS WHITE FARMERS MUST MEET. She is 'shucking and jiving" in her story, as both blacks and whites in Detroit, where I grew up, used to call her "story" and actually so bereft of real morals and principles as to even be shamelessly proud of it.

The "black farming success" story she is telling is NOT REAL. IT "WILL NOT WORK FOR OTHER BLACK FARMERS. They won't get a "special pass" on competition, expenses, crop failure, farm labor laws, and real farming because there are not that many government teats or taxpayers to support a wave of blacks expecting to live on a farm run like hers.
 
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pauldingbabe

The Great Cat
How many of these WANNABE black farmers have actually worked on a REAL farm? I have and it's a LOT OF HARD WORK for not very much return. How many of these supposed farmers have shoveled shit? Seriously. When my high school students asked what was the hardest and worst job I've ever had, my answer was Herdsman" and I shoveled shit!! Worked on a Farrowing Outfit in Colorado everyday, in every type of weather, no time off, every day in and day out. For those non-country folks a farrowing outfit is a farm that breeds and raises "feeder piglets" for finishing farms. We had over 5000 sows and each sow averaged 12 to 20+ piglets per sow twice a year.....that's 120,000 to 200,000 PLUS feeder pigs per year. Oh and by the way. Pigs poop their weight in poop a month. Don't even add that up....it's beyond belief. Gilts and sows weight anywhere from 250 to 800+ pounds each.

I actually loved my work until a breeder boar attacked and tried to kill me. I still have the scars to prove it. Took one of three of the tusk slashes to the back of my thigh nearly to the bone. One fricken crazy boar. I've had pig poop kicked into my face, eyes, nose, mouth and anywhere else poop can land when 30 to 40 pigs decide to run around the pens. Oh and that awesome bouquet you wear home.....gorgeous! Ode de poo!!

Farming is hard, dirty, shitty and dangerous. How many of these inner city GHETTO TURDS are willing to work that hard? My guess....zero to NONE! Too many generations of handouts, welfare and stupidity. Too much competition from CORPORATE FARMS, too many restrictions, too much bad luck, too much bad weather and too much disease as well as whatever other crap comes along. Yeah....farming is easy.


I say this in the most respectful, polite, and thankful heart....

HOLY SHIT.....

:xpnd:

I'm dying over here over this MAN'S truth!!!!
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
I heard it on urban talk radio, 20 years ago.

"We want houses, and we want land".

One big part of slavery reparations, will be the taking of houses and land,
from White peoples.

Just like in Zimbabwe and South Africa.

Please be safe everyone.

Regards to all.

Nowski


Um---the RECONSTRUCTION?

They were ALREADY promised--and ALREADY GIVEN--their "40 acres and a mule" when the Yankee occupiers divvied up former plantation land (mostly of those the carpetbaggers targeted as their enemies) to the blacks.

Then those SAME occupiers---Yankee carpetbaggers and Southern turncoats (we called them "Scalawags" at the time) very soon turned those many "independent" farms back into large land parcels, under THEIR control, with their former "useful idiot" allies as sharecroppers.

Not MY fault, today, that they couldn't KEEP what they were given. GIVEN (because STOLEN from its Southern owners).

As many have stated---they want rural land? Buy it.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
I am pretty sure you can go to the Republic of the Congo or any other of the lands of the history you are using for the claim and tell the locals in this very stable and picturesque location your here to claim your ‘free land’.

Just a warning sometimes things like wifi and air conditioning and Starbucks are in short supply, but you go make it happen.

Go start your new life in the lands of the ancestors I am sure the people already there will process your claims with great haste.

The problem with the redemption and cleansing of history you have to be selective of the period and conditions. Since there were black slave owners who also owned slaves in America and black tribes in Africa who procured slaves from other tribes to sell to white slave traders in the coastal market does that historic fact mean that blacks must also be shunned and must publicly show contrition for their dark past?

Also since Egyptians enslaved the Israelites guess anyone from an area of the Egyption empire needs to find some jewish feet to wash (not holding my breath on this one).

Those Italians and the slaves from throughout the Roman empire guess that would be about everyone. I should head out to the nearest Italian restaurant and get my free pizza.

The noble native Americans who sometimes took slaves from other native Americans and white settlers creates a confusing mix of
woke cultural debt to repay.

I am always fascinated that the arguments from the historians in our institutions of higher learning require a complete ignorance of history to be accepted.

I sometimes can’t decide if these professors are just morons themselves or know they are lying and do it anyway. The useful idiots who choose ignorance and demand free stuff are just morally bankrupt morons.

These idiots actually think life owes any of us anything but what we can build or earn. I am starting to realize the term useful idiots may not be an accurate term.


HEY.

IF ANYONE gets ANY "land back"---as a grand-daughter of a full-blood Cherokee Grandfather on my mother's side, and a Granddaughter of a Sioux grandmother on my Father's side (so they both told me when I was grown--I was adopted but found them again later in my adulthood, and met my Cherokee grandfather)--


I WANT FIRST DIBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You blacks who got here a LOT later than MY ancestors did, will just have to WAIT IN LINE..............
 

Murt

Veteran Member
They just tried that in Zimbabwe and South Africa and IT DOESN'T WORK

IIRC I read that zimbabwe was trying to coax the white farmers to come back and work the farms
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
This is the same thing they did in Zimbabwe and S Africa. The do-gooders wreak havoc, destroy everything and act like they are morally superior. Rhodesia used to be called the 'breadbasket of Africa' now it is a complete sh**hole. The same type of people who helped change Rhodesia to Zimbabwe are now at work in this nation.


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Leah Penniman, left, tends the crops at Soul Fire Farm.Courtesy of Soul Fire Farm

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Black people have largely been expelled from the US agricultural landscape. In 1920, nearly a million Black farmers worked on 41.4 million acres of land, making up a seventh of farm owners. Today, only about 49,000 of them remain, making up just 1.4 percent of the nation’s farm owners, and tending a scant 4.7 million acres—a nearly 90 percent loss.

Starting in the 17th century, European slave traders who forcibly moved Africans to this continent stole not just their lives and labor but also considerable agricultural knowledge, she said. The rice empire that developed in the early-US Carolinas, for instance, flourished on the farming traditions of the Senegambia region of West Africa.

After the post-Emancipation promise of “40 acres and a mule” crumbled under the weight of President Andrew Johnson’s racism, Penniman noted, Black agriculturalists were relegated to sharecropping, an arrangement that generated considerable wealth for the white planter class but saddled farmers with poverty-inducing debt.

“It wasn’t until the early 1900s that Black farmers began to save just enough money here and there to start to purchase meager parcels—usually 2.5 acres, five acres,” she said. Over that time, Black farmers innovated methods that remain at the core of sustainable agriculture today. George Washington Carver, a pioneering professor at Tuskegee University in Alabama, has long been trotted out during Black History Month for his achievements in finding new uses for the peanut. He’s actually a towering figure who should be known for much more than peanut mastery.

The whole reason Carver wanted farmers to grow peanuts was because he was trying to convince them to plant nitrogen-fixing legumes into diverse crop rotations, which would improve the soil in a region that had been burned by decades of mono-crop cotton farming. Carver also developed a system for disseminating his university’s research to surrounding farmers through workshops and demonstrations, as well as helping them troubleshoot problems they were encountering. Carver’s system would later take form nationwide as the US Department of Agriculture’s extension program, Penniman said.

Black farm ownership peaked in 1920. Around that time, the Ku Klux Klan and other groups led a “swift and severe backlash” to terrorize independent Black farmers, she added. These vigilante efforts went along with a set of US government policies—detailed in this great 2019 Atlantic article by Vann R. Newkirk II—that effectively expropriated Black-owned farmland, pushing it into the hands of white people. During the 20th century, the price of farmland rose by a factor of 52—making it yet another vehicle for wealth-building that African-Americans were systemically denied access to. The steady rise in land values, which has continued into the 21st century, makes it prohibitively expense for new farmers to break into agriculture, meaning that white dominance of farmland maintains plenty of momentum.

Farmers work the land at Bayou Bourbeaux Farmstead Association, a cooperative in Louisiana, August 1940.
Penniman is part of a growing movement to reclaim Black farmers’ hard-won place in our country’s agriculture. Soul Fire Farm, the project she co-directs in Petersburg, N.Y., “focuses on training the next generation of Black and brown farmers, as well as providing food and medicine for our community,” she said. The farm is part of a coalition of groups “claiming sovereignty and calling for reparations of land and resources so that we can grow nourishing food and distribute it in our communities.”

Soul Fire Farm also leads the Northeast Farmers of Color Land Trust, which calls on “good-hearted, good-minded people” to donate land, which will then be farmed by people of color. She said the trust has “several hundred acres” in the New York/New England queued up for transfer over the next decade; and that several other similar trusts are setting up nationwide.

Penniman said she realizes that such grassroots efforts, relying on the goodwill of white landowners, are just a beginning—not nearly enough to undo the racist legacy of land theft and agricultural-labor exploitation that dates to the origin of white settlement on the continent. Making a significant amount of farmland available to people of color and Native Americans whose ancestors were dispossessed will require a serious reparations program that includes land reform—that is, transferring some territory from wealthy, white landholders and huge investment funds to young farmers of color.

“I doubt the existing power structure and the existing status quo will go so far,” Penniman said. “It would require a fundamental shift in our relationship to the earth.”


The article speaks out of both sides of its mouth.

How can a million farmers own 41 million acres (about 40 acres each) and they say in the next paragraph that blacks were only able to get 2.5 to 5 acres. Math does not add up.
 

TKO

Veteran Member
I think woke companies, like Cargill or Simplot, should start donating 40 acres to blacks right now. Since woke companies do not mind going broke, it would fit perfectly.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
There are two issues here:

Black people and farming

Free land distribution

Can people with dark skin farm? Of course, they can, most (like their white counterparts) do better if they come at least from countryside or farming families but like young homesteaders from other communities they can learn, if they are willing to work very very hard at it (like everyone else).

Free land - I have no problem with a return to a new version of the Homesteading Act as long as it does not take property from individual landholders of all colors (Big Agra Business/Monsanto might be able to pay part of their fines with donations of land, ditto the Chinese).

But the land isn't FREE, you either PROVE you are WORKING it (even if your crops fail and as new farmers or old ones, that happens) or you LOSE IT. There could be jobs created for existing farmers and agricultural school graduates training the truly interested and getting them going.

Most people won't make it but some will, and yeah it might not be "cost-effective" directly in the face of modern agribusiness but it might worth it as an experiment to see how many people really could and would make the transition.

Prediction: a lot of people taking advantage of such a program would NOT be inner-city urban black people, many formerly rural (especially first-generation immigrants from countries where everyone has a garden, probably would take it up in droves - thus breaking up the potential ghettos).
 

PghPanther

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I suggest they check world history first......................Blacks don't have a good track record when it comes to feeding themselves.

BTW all this farming talk reminds me of a joke.

In a grade school classroom one day the teacher decides to explain some farming equipment to the children and how those tools work with the soil.

So she shows a picture of a rake and asks the children does anyone know what that is?

A child raises their hand and replies "that's a rake!"

"Very good, Johnny" the teacher says...........then she shows a picture of a plow...........

and another child responds "that's a plow!!"

"Correct that's right, Nancy" the teacher says......................then she shows a picture of a hoe...........

and a child raises his hand and replies "that's a hoe!!"

"Very good, Jimmy" the teacher says.....

..but a Black child keeps his hand up in the air wanting to answer so the teacher says........"what is it Devron?"

He says..............."My sistra be a hoe n she not look like dat!!"
 

GammaRat

Veteran Member
Yeah...

That hoe is brand new.

All that jury (jewelry)

Shirt/dress is straight from the cleaners.

Cornrows in her hair is the closest shes ever been to farming. No hat, wait 'til that scalp gets a striped sunburn. :lol:

That Hoe just LOOKS brand new.

I bet its well used.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
I stumbled across the Homestead papers of my great and great-great grandfathers in Nebraska the other day online. If I recall off-hand, they each signed on for 160 acres in the Sand-Hills. The documentation and expectations to "prove up" for ownership was extensive. The investment of work - building, clearing, cultivating, fencing, and the crop-yield and building of herds over the course of the 7 years was damned impressive. All had to be signed off and witnessed by neighbors and local officials before full ownership was granted. Paperwork bureaucracy nightmare even back in the 1800's.

My mind wandered to how this place of ours got started. Raw land with a contract. Work three jobs and go to school. Scrape enough together to build a barn and run electricuty. Then save to put in the well. Drag an old trailer onto the property and live full-time with an outhouse and no inside water - while we saved to get a septic system. Next step...pay off the land (10 years) save some more, and put up the house. Finally living like civilized folk...but it took almost 20 years. Not all paid off until the day I retired. That took 40 years. Young and dumb and not afraid of work, risk and sacrifice is how it's done. Yeah...it actually looks like something now, and maybe folks drive by and think it was easy, or given to us. That's a BIG freeking NOT.
 
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twobarkingdogs

Veteran Member
I know several blacks who own farms outside the city of Hogansville in the western Ga area. Went hog hunting several times with one of the programmers, black, I worked with who had family in the area and owned a BOL there. Most of the farms were approx 40 acres and grew row crops to sell at the farmers market as well as big gardens to feed the family.

Farming families either black or white have a hard time keeping their kids on the farm due to economics. Thus most college educated farming kids end up going off to the cities to earn a living. Some of them, like my coworker, use the money that they make so that they can move back home when they retire or if the need were to ever arise.

tbd
 

Faroe

Un-spun
I know of no farmer in our area that doesn't have at least one outside job besides the farm.
This. The norm in IA, and the norm for ranchers here in NM (many of whom with large holdings are Hispanic). "Retirement" in their sixties means finally giving up the outside job - they are still farming.

I am sick of listening to these CHILDISH, stupid, self-serving demands!
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
plenty of land for sale, but I dont see them leaving the city for hard farm work
They don't have to leave the city. Detroit has farms opening up in the suburbs that have been bulldozed. It takes a heck of a lot of hard work and long hours. BTDT. Somehow I doubt the bulk of those snowflakes have what it takes to run a successful farm.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
This. The norm in IA, and the norm for ranchers here in NM (many of whom with large holdings are Hispanic). "Retirement" in their sixties means finally giving up the outside job - they are still farming.

I am sick of listening to these CHILDISH, stupid, self-serving demands!
Sorry to say, we haven't see anything yet when it comes to being childish.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
Farming is business. Used to be the number one small business. There is more to it that digging a hole and planting a seed.
If you are unable to save for the future and develop a business plan to obtain a farm loan, you do not deserve nor should you be cursed with a farm.
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
I've had pig poop kicked into my face, eyes, nose, mouth and anywhere else poop can land when 30 to 40 pigs decide to run around the pens. Oh and that awesome bouquet you wear home.....gorgeous! Ode de poo!!

I like what you've done here.
 

rbt

Veteran Member
I’ve been up most of the night irrigating all they want is free sh** they don’t have a clue they’ll have to work, stupid people say stupid things!!
 

KFhunter

Veteran Member
When I milked, I frequently got cow shit in my hair. There is also the occasional slap across the face with the manure covered, mud soaked tail. No dangley ear rings, no long necklaces. Thorn scratches that sting when you sweat, chigger bites, mosquito bites...don't forget to check for ticks, try not to let any blisters pop open. Once I banged my head against a wasp's nest, while clipping some heavy overgrowth.

It's not a damn fashion shoot!

You didn't tie the tail to the stall?

Lol, we always tied the tail back and they never waded through belly deep chit, kept them very clean
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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plenty of land for sale, but I dont see them leaving the city for hard farm work

A lot of black farmers lost their shirts in the 1970s right along with a lot of white farmers. Then the corporate farms really went in for the kill. Most blacks I know will go to a farmer's market but they don't want to pick in the field because of the connotations it still has. That's why instead of blacks doing "migrant work" you have Mexicans et al.

Once you start thinking you are too good for something, you'll never be good enough.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
I stumbled across the Homestead papers of my great and great-great grandfathers in Nebraska the other day online. If I recall off-hand, they each signed on for 160 acres in the Sand-Hills. The documentation and expectations to "prove up" for ownership was extensive. The investment of work - building, clearing, cultivating, fencing, and the crop-yield and building of herds over the course of the 7 years was damned impressive. All had to be signed off and witnessed by neighbors and local officials before full ownership was granted. Paperwork bureaucracy nightmare even back in the 1800's.

My mind wandered to how this place of ours got started. Raw land with a contract. Work three jobs and go to school. Scrape enough together to build a barn and run electricuty. Then save to put in the well. Drag an old trailer onto the property and live full-time with an outhouse and no inside water - while we saved to get a septic system. Next step...pay off the land (10 years) save some more, and put up the house. Finally living like civilized folk...but it took almost 20 years. Not all paid off until the day I retired. That took 40 years. Young and dumb and not afraid of work, risk and sacrifice is how it's done. Yeah...it actually looks like something now, and maybe folks drive by and think it was easy, or given to us. That's a BIG freeking NOT.
Wait where are the interviews with Cribs and the eating out and taking $20,000 vacations?

That just won't fly these days...... sad but true.....
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Um---the RECONSTRUCTION?

They were ALREADY promised--and ALREADY GIVEN--their "40 acres and a mule" when the Yankee occupiers divvied up former plantation land (mostly of those the carpetbaggers targeted as their enemies) to the blacks.

Then those SAME occupiers---Yankee carpetbaggers and Southern turncoats (we called them "Scalawags" at the time) very soon turned those many "independent" farms back into large land parcels, under THEIR control, with their former "useful idiot" allies as sharecroppers.

Not MY fault, today, that they couldn't KEEP what they were given. GIVEN (because STOLEN from its Southern owners).

As many have stated---they want rural land? Buy it.
What should also be noted, and I've got several books and articles on the subject, is that freed slaves, were forced, by the Union Army, to work on parceled plantations. Isn't forced similar to "slavery"? But they didn't. They laid around wanting the Union Army to give them food.

I mean after all that is what happened to Sherman. Ton's of freed slaves followed his Army and were fed. It got so bad, people wanting freebies, that Sherman had to have something done.

If you want some go buy it!

Having stuff given to you, usually translates into lack of appreciation. So you don't take care of it, or work it.

A lot like the academic's who are pushing for Marxism. They didn't work for anything, mommy and daddy did it all, they don't appreciate anything, including their history, and think everything should be free. Just saying it ain't just the blacks who want a western Zimbabwe.

BTW I think I read ...yesterday, Zimbabwe closed their stock market, and their money just tanked, again. Got any 3 trillion bank notes? Might be worth something soon. LOL
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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You didn't tie the tail to the stall?

Lol, we always tied the tail back and they never waded through belly deep chit, kept them very clean
We never tied tails, but milking in a tie stall barn, there was always one or two who just had to dump a nice, juicy pile, then step back into it and start kicking! Our cows were kept clipped and clean, but, well... they ARE cows!

Summerthyme
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
When I milked, I frequently got cow shit in my hair. There is also the occasional slap across the face with the manure covered, mud soaked tail. No dangley ear rings, no long necklaces. Thorn scratches that sting when you sweat, chigger bites, mosquito bites...don't forget to check for ticks, try not to let any blisters pop open. Once I banged my head against a wasp's nest, while clipping some heavy overgrowth.

It's not a damn fashion shoot!

Except for the manure, you've described long-distance hiking. OTOH, on a farm, you'll likely get to shower and change clothes a lot more frequently than the ~every 6 days or so I got in my 19 months hiking in 2006 and 2008-9.
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
We never tied tails, but milking in a tie stall barn, there was always one or two who just had to dump a nice, juicy pile, then step back into it and start kicking! Our cows were kept clipped and clean, but, well... they ARE cows!

Summerthyme
Never was that type of farmer. Probably never could be. (I make a pet out of everything and name them) However, SB's grandmother decided to go visit one of her daughter's in AL, and of all people she asked me to milk her Jersey while she was gone. She drank "raw" milk, churned butter, made butter milk the whole 9 yards.

I said sure, and everybody just laughed and laughed. So come the day and I head down there. Get the stool and bucket, and the old Jersey turned that eye on me. I told her that Granny wanted me to come down here and do this so it was ok. Patted her on the butte, and sat down. Had a great time, no trouble what so ever. I did keep an eye on that tail though. Got about 3/4 of a bucket, sprayed the cat in the face.

Took the bucket back and set it down, and everybody stopped laughing. "There now y'all do what you want to with it." and walked off.
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
Never was that type of farmer. Probably never could be. (I make a pet out of everything and name them) However, SB's grandmother decided to go visit one of her daughter's in AL, and of all people she asked me to milk her Jersey while she was gone. She drank "raw" milk, churned butter, made butter milk the whole 9 yards.

I said sure, and everybody just laughed and laughed. So come the day and I head down there. Get the stool and bucket, and the old Jersey turned that eye on me. I told her that Granny wanted me to come down here and do this so it was ok. Patted her on the butte, and sat down. Had a great time, no trouble what so ever. I did keep an eye on that tail though. Got about 3/4 of a bucket, sprayed the cat in the face.

Took the bucket back and set it down, and everybody stopped laughing. "There now y'all do what you want to with it." and walked off.

Famous movie scene depicting this. Harrison Ford gets conscripted to try cow milking on an Amish farm:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GxFab5uMPc


2 minutes long, borderline SFW.
 
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