TERRORISM Riots in Minneapolis (now the main riot thread)

Doomer Doug

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Kelley"s Heroes was a sign of the times. In 1968 you had Kelley's and in 1964 you had the longest day, and four year's later you had Kelly's. I saw John Waynes Green Berets in a movie theater, Uptown Theater in Richland, WA but the wouldn't let me see Kelly"s since I was only 14. :angl:
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Strike Team is a NIMS term indicating action teams.

Nice to see St P actually has FULL jock straps.

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Fusion Centers:

Minneapolis should have their own.
Minnesota has another (these SHOULD be separate)
I BELIEVE that Target has one as well (which has fairly broad reach, covering all their stores and store Exec Team Leaders (ETL's and their homes... I KNOW Walmart covers all Store managers, regional mgrs homes as well as the stores) I'd be amazed if Target hadn't signed on to that info stream from one of our posters here)
St Paul MIGHT have one running along with a county one.

I SUSPECT that more than a few folks are running their own local ops following Sam Culper's handbook (cf "Forward Observer")
 

Doomer Doug

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One thing the Brits (or at least the cops in London) learned a few years ago is that in the age of most people having a smartphone (or access to one) "planning something" is relatively simple, as long as you are not too picky about what you are planning.

Those London "riots" have kind of faded quickly from memory (the authorities really don't want people to remember how easy it was if you ask me) but the idea doesn't take much of an IQ to figure out.

You just pick a "Target" (bad pun sorry) and text all your "friends" and put it up on social media, twenty minutes to an hour later - boom!

I'm not saying I approve of the idea, just that it makes things a lot easier to suddenly mob, attack and regroup than it was in 1992.
The term is flash mob.
 

tiredude

Veteran Member
Chuck you are fixated on jockstraps lately...….

this will escalate and some young 20 year old National Guardsman will kill someone he don't need to.........
 

Doomer Doug

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I will not do thread drift, I will not do thread drift, I will not do thread drift...except anyone who thinks that "all" of the "native peoples of the Americas had "no unity among them" or didn't live "anything but a stone-age cultural existence" has failed to utterly to study their history.

Now I repeat to myself again, I will not do thread drift, I will not do thread drift....
Forgot about the Iroquis? did they. Or Seneca uniting the tribes in 1812, or the seven, well just damn. It was the disease really.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Burning the flag yelling F America by a fat brown lady..................then why stay here?

Ohh she says...............Make America Native again......claiming her family ancestry has been here for 1,000s of years.

Well what kind of land was this before it was White America?

In the continental US there were over 600 tribes of "native Americans" and they were often in conflict over their nomadic existence of land and resources with each other.........there was no unity among them during this time.......nor of course was there anything but a stone age cultural existence.

Is that the greatness she seeks? .......or does she think "native people's" can maintain and continue to replicate what they never could in the first place?

Or is she just a product of today's ignorance/indoctrination by the media, entertainment, education and the political left?
You might seriously benefit from some study of the Iroquois Nation - 7 Tribes and looking into Ohio, Penna, NY history.
 

David Nettleton

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For information purposes: Getting a hand held ham radio (which are not expensive) will have freq's that the police use. If not to up on ham's etc. it may take a while to understand all the jargon. At least I do.

2 things to remember if you go that route 1) you don't need a license to listen 2) in an emergency you can broadcast in the open and it's ok there's a procedure for that 3) some freq's you don't need a license to broadcast.

While not so good in GA hearing what is going on in Minn. it will work great locally.
Good point, CaryC. Read somewhere this week there is an effort, was it in Ca., to have ham radio tower dismantled.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
I just checked three TV stations with choppers down there...instead of covering this riot live, all three are covering a Covid briefing, fer gosh sakes. I'd say a uniform strategy to ignore/downplay.

I'm hoping and halfway expecting St. Paul to take a harder line - not sure who is in charge, but they can't be as big a pussy as that Mayor Frey of Minneapolis.

Just happy to live three hours from it. Fiddle-dee-dee. Back to mowing the lawn.
 

jward

passin' thru
Floyd protests: Frey vows 'all-out' push for peace, safety in Minneapolis
Daylight reveals south Minneapolis destruction; unrest spilling into St. Paul

MPR News Staff
Minneapolis
May 28, 2020
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A damaged building.

The damage at East 29th Street and South 26th Avenue in Minneapolis Thursday morning.
Christine T. Nguyen | MPR News

Updated 1:57 p.m.
Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey promised “an all-out effort” for peace and security in the wake of violence and looting overnight Wednesday into Thursday as people protested the death of George Floyd, a black man who died in Minneapolis police custody.
“I believe in this city, and I know that you do, too,” he told reporters Thursday after daylight revealed the extent of the damage in south Minneapolis — some buildings were still smoldering — and news that one person was shot and killed.
A man stands in front of a microphone.

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey speaks during a news conference Thursday, in Minneapolis, Minn.
Elizabeth Flores | Star Tribune via AP
Frey and Andrea Jenkins, vice president of the Minneapolis City Council, said protesters’ anger over Floyd’s death was understandable given the long history of racism in Minnesota and the country and the need to push back against it.
“We feel there was a knee on all of our collective necks … a knee that says black life does not matter,” said Jenkins, who is black.
However, Jenkins, Frey and Minneapolis Police Chief Medaria Arradondo all said that as much as they grasped the anger, the violence would not be tolerated. The mayor said he had called Gov. Tim Walz to request National Guard help in coming days.
“You have no right to perpetrate violence and harm on the very communities that you say you are standing up for,” said Jenkins. “We need peace and calm in our streets, and I am begging you for that calm.”
Arradondo said the “vast majority” of people have been protesting peacefully the past few days but that the situation changed dramatically overnight as a small number took to destruction and looting.
Police chief says dept is looking into reports that some of the people involved in "criminal behavior" not known as Minneapolis residents.
— Brandt Williams (@BrandtMPR) May 28, 2020
People took to the streets Tuesday after a video of the incident surfaced showing a white Minneapolis officer pressing his knee into Floyd’s neck for minutes as the man lay handcuffed and face down, pleading that he couldn’t breathe.
Peaceful protests morphed into confrontations with police Tuesday night followed by violence, arson and looting overnight Wednesday into Thursday.
By midmorning Thursday, tensions were rising again.
Hazy on Lake Street from all the fires. Conflicts between police and protesters beginning again. pic.twitter.com/qJuQfjubZr
— Evan Frost (@efrostee) May 28, 2020
By early Thursday morning, Minneapolis police confirmed they were also investigating the shooting death of a man, with one person taken into custody.

Minneapolis fire officials Thursday morning said crews responded to at least 16 structure fires during the protests. While trucks were hit by rocks, no firefighter injuries were reported.
Crews continue to respond and extinguish fires.
Protests spill into St. Paul
Early Thursday afternoon, Metro Transit said it would shut down light rail for the rest of the day out of concern for the safety of riders and workers given the expected coming demonstrations.
St. Paul police were also dealing with confrontations Thursday in the city’s Midway neighborhood, including looting at the neighborhood Target store.

Just before 2 p.m., MPR News producer Megan Burks reported looters had moved to a liquor store on the south side of University Avenue and that there were hot spots of trouble throughout the Midway neighborhood.
Things have picked up since this. People stopping to join looters, cheer them on or watch in disbelief. What started as maybe a dozen people is now several dozen. No police presence that I can see for these small businesses. @MPRnews christine nguyen on Twitter
— MEBurks (@MEBurks) May 28, 2020
On the Capitol grounds in St. Paul, buildings and offices of lawmakers, state court staff and judges have been evacuated out of precaution. Staff were urged to leave quickly and work from home for the time being.
‘It’s like a war came through here’
Reporting from Lake Street in Minneapolis Thursday morning, MPR News’ Jon Collins described the damage as “unbelievable devastation.”
Building destroyed

The AutoZone near the 3rd Precinct in Minneapolis, which was on fire Wednesday night, has been destroyed.
Christine T. Nguyen | MPR News
“There's an industrial building across the street from me that's smoking. There's affordable housing that was being built that is still on fire ... there is a Wendy's that is completely demolished in the parking lot. Target has been looted. Cub has been looted ... and blockades everywhere,” he said.
People in the neighborhood expressed disbelief over the devastation as business owners began surveying and cleaning up the damage, which extends along Lake Street into the Uptown neighborhood.
Ingebretsen's Scandinavian Gifts & Foods damage

The damage at Ingebretsen's Scandinavian Gifts & Foods Thursday.
Christine T. Nguyen | MPR News

That includes Ingebretsen's, a gift store and meat market that’s been a fixture on Lake Street since the 1920s. Julie Ingebretsen, the granddaughter of the store’s founders, described the damage to the store as “unreal.”
Julie Ingebretsen on the damage at her store.
by Cathy Wurzer
“It’s like a war came through here last night,” she said. “Our windows were broken. I don’t think so much taking stuff, but just knocking shelves over, throwing stuff around, rummaging through drawers. It’s just destruction. And it makes me so sad, I can hardly stand it.”
Metro Transit said Blue Line light rail trains, which run along Hiawatha Avenue with a station at Lake Street, would not run until further notice, and that there would not be replacement bus service.
Minneapolis Council member Alondra Cano said city officials haven’t done enough to ensure that policing culture changes “so these wrongful killings stop.”
“It’s about the systems in place that are continuing to fail people, and we throw everything and the kitchen sink at them, and they’re still not producing the outcomes that we need,” she said.
Cano: More needs to be done to change police culture
by Cathy Wurzer
Cano said she believes the city should increase its support for the businesses affected by the devastation. She said many are locally owned and already facing challenges from the COVID-19 pandemic.
“These are Minneapolis residents, Minneapolis voters,” she said. “Some of them obviously are immigrant entrepreneurs, and they face already so many other challenges with immigrant status, language barriers, general instability in such a difficult moment.”
‘Extremely dangerous situation’
The chaos Wednesday erupted a day after after four Minneapolis police officers were fired in the wake of the video showing a white Minneapolis police officer with his knee on Floyd's neck Monday night. Handcuffed and face down, Floyd told the officer he couldn't breathe. He later died.
The video sparked waves of outrage here and across the county.
The anger is the result of long-simmering frustration over how people of color are treated by the criminal justice system, Nekima Levy Armstrong, a civil rights lawyer and activist, told MPR News Thursday morning.
“For black Americans, it’s very easy to look at the video and to know that something horrible and egregious and unlawful happened. It is not rocket science,” she said.
"White people who are conscious can look at that video and they can see the same things that we saw, which is a man murdered in broad daylight in front of our eyes, on video, and the officers — all four of them — their callous disregard for a black life and human life."
Earlier in the day Wednesday, Frey had called for the officer to be prosecuted as he and Police Chief Medaria Arradondo urged peaceful protests.
By 9:30 p.m., Arradondo told Fox 9 News that while the vast majority of protesters were peaceful, there was looting happening as well as “significant property damage” and the “creation of Molotov cocktails.”
People carry items out of a store.

Looters carry items out of Target on Lake Street Wednesday.
Christine T. Nguyen | MPR News
Protests, he said, “cannot be at the cost of others’ personal safety. We cannot have that.”
Later Wednesday night, the chief told MPR News that the demonstrations in Floyd’s name had been "hijacked" by some protesters and looters engaged in "criminal conduct."
Late Wednesday, Gov. Tim Walz took to Twitter to urge people to leave the area around Lake Street and Hiawatha Avenue because it had “evolved into an extremely dangerous situation.”
Another protest is set for 5 p.m. Thursday in downtown Minneapolis.

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TidesofTruth

Veteran Member
Whoever here says the rioters are justified or they side with them are traitors to this country. These rioters could care less about the life of Mr Floyd. They are only about getting theirs. Whether it be power by the antagonists or free gimmethats from local business they are as wicked as any race baiter/trader,

That being said the ex-officer will probably be charged with Murder 3 and it will be up to the prosecutors to aggravate the charge with a hate crime. That may be a bridge too far just because the 2 are of different races.

To be sure the judge will sentence the full 25 years and that probably won't be enough for the people. But nothing would be other than death.


609.195 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE.
(a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.

(b) Whoever, without intent to cause death, proximately causes the death of a human being by, directly or indirectly, unlawfully selling, giving away, bartering, delivering, exchanging, distributing, or administering a controlled substance classified in Schedule I or II, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years or to payment of a fine of not more than $40,000, or both.
 
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