Most likely a CV19 thing. There comes a point in any disease that no matter what you throw at it, the disease wins. Multitudes of posts dictate that this virus affects lung, heart, kidney, and testes and depending on where the virus decides to reside in abundance, that is where you will see the resulting issues (cardiac, respiratory, etc.)
If you give a drug to a person at the beginning of the disease process, the result will more likely to be positive. That's why we don't routinely treat dead people with medication. There IS a point that it does not provide the desired results.
They are just finding out now what happens when you give it to someone whose body has already been ravaged by the COVID-19 Virus.
"Before the pandemic struck New York City, 20-25 people a day were dying at home according to the city medical examiner's office. Now, that number is more than 200, raising questions about how many of those who die in their own beds actually died of coronavirus.""
Gee! A clue! What next?
Coronavirus claims an unexpected victim: Florida vegetablesI also heard gallons of milk are being dumped!
Can’t they give it to food banks? It seems such a waste!
I am truly confused why new analysis doesn’t line up with previous official Chinese reports. This just stumps me, hhmmm got nothing on why????
isolating the healthy does not work because people are not self sustaining.SERIOUS, WORLDWIDE, SOCIAL DISTANCING will NEVER work- either short term, or long term.
Why?
Humans are socialble, and they by their very nature, are "bunch quitters." Huh? Humans are like cattle- they like being around their own kind, close contact where possible. There are, and always will be, "bunch quitters." They go off on their own, sometimes getting in trouble, but often causing problems for their owners/handlers/herd...
A tip o' the hat to those who love all things Western, this term, "bunch quitter" immediately came to mind when reading the above article. It fits the human herd, and it's vital that there be more that stand-up, to protect the herd from others, as well as itself...
Great post, marsh! God Bless You and Yours!
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This was an interesting video about Food Shutdown (15:45) - FOOD SHUTDOWN: Farmers Told to “QUIT FARMING”The milk is being dumped because the processing plants are closed.
Same is happening with beef, pork, and chicken.
And I would imagine various crops as well.
So people are learning that they should have something put back for emergencies. Never knew that....Farmers Are Panic-Buying to Keep America’s 95 Million Cows Fed
Farmers Are Panic-Buying to Keep America’s 95 Million Cows Fed
Isis Almeida, Agnieszka de Sousa and Megan Durisin
8 hrs ago
© Photographer: David Paul Morris/BloombergDairy cows eat in a feeding barn at Lafranchi Ranch in Nicasio, California, U.S., on Friday, July 6, 2018. U.S. producers fear Mexico's 25 percent retaliatory tariffs on U.S. dairy and cheesein response to the Section 232 steel and aluminum tariffswould deplete their exports to Mexico, according to a letter spearheaded by the U.S. Dairy Export Council, the International Dairy Foods Association, and the National Milk Producers Federation.
(Bloomberg Businessweek) -- Days after President Trump extended America’s quarantine guidelines, Tyler Beaver, the 31-year-old founder of brokerage Beaf Cattle Co., couldn’t get hold of the rations that feed his clients’ cows. He’d already tried sellers in the traditional producing areas of the U.S. such as Kansas, Missouri, and Oklahoma, only to find they were mostly sold out. Soon, in a bid to connect his customers with a feed mill still willing to sell, he changed strategy and tried to pull feed from the Delta region, hundreds of miles away—again without luck.
Just as virus-spooked consumers have rushed to grocery stores to stockpile everything from toilet paper to pasta, farmers raising America’s cattle, hogs, and chickens have filled their bins with feed, fearing the spread of the coronavirus would disrupt their supply chains. “I’ve had some calls from customers of mine looking for feed because the mills are out,” says the Fayetteville, Ark.-based Beaver. “There’s a rush to buy just because of the uncertainty in the market. They just don’t want to be caught without.”
Keeping America’s 95 million cows, 77 million pigs, and 9 billion chickens fed isn’t as simple as it may seem. Farmers are worried their feed mills could close as employees get sick or that their slaughterhouses could slow production, forcing them to keep animals for longer. They’re also concerned that a shortage of trucks, which are being waylaid to supply supermarkets, could make it harder for farm supplies to reach them.
Even the plunge in gasoline demand affects the feed supply. As ethanol plants shut down—because the fuel additive isn’t needed when gas isn’t selling—the animal feed market is being starved of an important ingredient called dried distillers grains (DDGs) that are a byproduct of ethanol production. Distillers grain is a key ingredient in rations for beef cattle and dairy cows.
The rush to fill bins hasn’t happened only in the U.S. French feedmakers stepped up ingredient purchases at the start of the lockdown, and demand jumped as plants that produce biofuels started to slow down. A similar trend occurred in Germany last month. “This is a new phenomenon,” says David Webster, head of animal nutrition and health at Cargill Inc., adding that the agribusiness giant has seen its global feed sales volume climb 10% or more in the past month. “We saw a bit of this in China in February, but now we are seeing globally, in every geography that we operate in, so it’s testing the system, so to speak.”
France’s Avril Group also experienced strong demand in the past few weeks as customers rushed to finalize purchases over concerns that production could be suspended as biodiesel demand plummeted. And German farm cooperative Agravis Raiffeisen AG said there was some panic meal buying from feedmakers, while Munich-based grain trader BayWa AG saw hoarding in northwest Europe. “If you have a huge cattle herd, you want to make sure you have enough feedstuffs available on your farm,” says Thorsten Tiedemann, chief operating officer at Getreide AG, a Hamburg-based trader that sells rapeseed meal, a feed ingredient.
That’s why James Holz, a farmer in Jefferson, Iowa, recently bought three weeks’ worth of ration for his 3,000 cattle, triple the norm. Because he’s in the U.S.’s top ethanol-producing state, he typically doesn’t need to stockpile. Some cattle producers there get multiple deliveries of distillers grains a day. “A lot of guys use their last scoop at 9 a.m., and then the truck comes at 10 a.m.,” says the 34-year-old farmer. But even he was taking no chances.
Still, because farmers’ bin space is limited, they can’t really hoard the same way that consumers are doing, says David Hoogmoed, president of the Purina Animal Nutrition unit of Land O’ Lakes Inc. (The Purina that makes the dog and cat food is owned by Nestlé SA.) “What we are seeing isn’t a run on feed, but a keep-everything-full scenario,” he says. “While the producer [in the past] may have run things down to the last minute and ordered feed for tomorrow, they are building in, in their inventory management, more of a safety stock.”
While sales at Purina’s livestock business increased only by single digits, there probably was a boost of more than 20% in the companion animal segment, which includes horses and rabbits. Even with social distancing in place, Hoogmoed says the company has kept its more than 60 mills operating, adding overtime and some weekend shifts and running “a very strong throughput.” “When you have a pet, even if it’s a horse—not a dog and a cat—they have a name and you want to take care of them,” he says. “We had a very large runup in retail feeds in all of our outlets and most of our customers.”
It’s still unclear if all the talk of hoarding will eventually result in more demand for feed. The number of animals isn’t necessarily growing at a pace that’s faster than usual, and farmers can only fill up their bins once before they go back to the normal rate of consumption, says Tiedemann of Getreide. “We will see how it plays out over the next 90 days, but our view today would be that this is demand being pulled forward,” says Cargill’s Webster.
Back in Arkansas, Beaver, who also raises cattle, is worried about the present. “If all the farmers go out and fill up all the storage bins they did have just because they are unsure what the future is going to hold, that does absorb a lot,” he says. “And if all the feedlots throughout the U.S. do the same thing and keep everything maxed out as far as their storage bins, storage capacity, and hedge for the future as well, you will start seeing shortages.”
China is laughing at the stupid westerners who are buying this crap...Two million protective masks purchased by Finland from China have turned out to be unsuitable for use in hospitals, AFP reports.
Finland’s Health minister Aino-Kaisa Pekonen had on Tuesday tweeted a picture of the first shipment of two million surgical masks and 230,000 respirator masks being unloaded at Helsinki airport on a Finnair flight from Guangzhou in China, saying they would be “checked and tested” before use.
But by Wednesday, officials discovered that the face masks did not meet the required standards of protection against the coronavirus for use in medical environments.
“Of course this was a bit of a disappointment for us,” health ministry permanent secretary Kirsi Varhila told a news conference.
Finland currently needs about half a million surgical masks, and 50,000 respirator masks per day, officials said on Wednesday, with some regions warning of shortages.
Prime Minister Sanna Marin hit out at some local authorities on Twitter earlier in the day, accusing them of not having stockpiled three to six months’ worth of protective equipment as mandated by Finland’s pandemic preparedness plan.
Global trade forecast to fall by up to a third amid Covid-19 pandemic – as it happened
Scientists predict UK will be worst-hit country in Europe; Trump threatens to stop WHO funding; global cases pass 1.4 million. This blog is now closedwww.theguardian.com
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It was very interesting. My question is this, if the premise is that the farmers are being told to quit (various reasons) due to oversupply, like the onions, is accurate. What caused it? It appears to be a flat demand issue based upon what the onion farmer said. So if a large amount of his production was due to eating out needs dropping to zero (more or less), then why did we not pick up the slack on the eating in side of the equation?This was an interesting video about Food Shutdown (15:45) - FOOD SHUTDOWN: Farmers Told to “QUIT FARMING”
That would be the question?Then why test?
Negative | Positive | Deaths |
82,299 | 16,239 | 310 |
Age Range | Percent of Cases |
0-4 | < 1% |
5-12 | < 1% |
13-18 | 1% |
19-24 | 7% |
25-49 | 41% |
50-64 | 29% |
65+ | 20% |
Age Range | Percent of Cases |
0-4 | < 1% |
5-12 | < 1% |
13-18 | < 1% |
19-24 | 1% |
25-49 | 19% |
50-64 | 29% |
65+ | 51% |
County | Number of Cases | Deaths |
Adams | 33 | |
Allegheny | 720 | 10 |
Armstrong | 19 | |
Beaver | 128 | 13 |
Bedford | 4 | |
Berks | 416 | 7 |
Blair | 6 | |
Bradford | 15 | |
Bucks | 756 | 22 |
Butler | 113 | 2 |
Cambria | 9 | 1 |
Cameron | 1 | |
Carbon | 76 | 1 |
Centre | 57 | |
Chester | 373 | 6 |
Clarion | 8 | |
Clearfield | 7 | |
Clinton | 3 | |
Columbia | 54 | 1 |
Crawford | 8 | |
Cumberland | 84 | 2 |
Dauphin | 168 | 2 |
Delaware | 1034 | 23 |
Elk | 2 | |
Erie | 29 | |
Fayette | 35 | 1 |
Forest | 5 | |
Franklin | 43 | |
Fulton | 1 | |
Greene | 17 | |
Huntingdon | 6 | |
Indiana | 21 | |
Jefferson | 1 | |
Juniata | 18 | |
Lackawanna | 266 | 10 |
Lancaster | 561 | 16 |
Lawrence | 32 | 2 |
Lebanon | 169 | |
Lehigh | 1319 | 11 |
Luzerne | 1134 | 11 |
Lycoming | 15 | |
McKean | 1 | |
Mercer | 27 | |
Mifflin | 10 | |
Monroe | 671 | 17 |
Montgomery | 1521 | 37 |
Montour | 26 | |
Northampton | 857 | 17 |
Northumberland | 22 | |
Perry | 13 | 1 |
Philadelphia | 4456 | 87 |
Pike | 148 | 6 |
Potter | 3 | |
Schuylkill | 136 | |
Snyder | 9 | 1 |
Somerset | 7 | |
Sullivan | 1 | |
Susquehanna | 14 | |
Tioga | 10 | |
Union | 8 | |
Venango | 5 | |
Warren | 1 | |
Washington | 59 | |
Wayne | 47 | |
Westmoreland | 183 | 1 |
Wyoming | 5 | |
York | 233 | 2 |
It will be near 70, sunny and clear today here in Portland. I've had enough death for today. Hundreds of people, maybe over 1,000 are going to die today in New York City. The total cases in New York Syate are closing in on 150,000 and nationwide deaths are nearing 15,000. Di blasio is blathering away like the fool he is. Time for some down time. WE ARE LED BY FOOLS.
I may have overlooked it, but is there a scheduled press conference today?
Supposedly at 5 PM
Live | The White House
LIVE White House events and press briefings with President Joe Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris and other administration officials.www.whitehouse.gov
He's gonna take $#!+ for that.Fair use.
And Now, A Very Special COVID-19 Message From Walter | JEFF DUNHAM
•Apr 8, 2020
Jeff Dunham
Walter has some personal observations regarding COVID-19 plus some very important advice after being home for a few weeks.
Link to source:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK5oAmESJlA
run time 1:32
As a young woman, I worked in food service both sitdown places and really fast food (never any place fancy but all but two were chain operations).It was very interesting. My question is this, if the premise is that the farmers are being told to quit (various reasons) due to oversupply, like the onions, is accurate. What caused it? It appears to be a flat demand issue based upon what the onion farmer said. So if a large amount of his production was due to eating out needs dropping to zero (more or less), then why did we not pick up the slack on the eating in side of the equation?
Was it due to large amounts of waste associated with eating out?
Are we actually eating less when we eat at home?
We used to ship it overseas, but are not now?
It sounds like it's because of all of the restaurants closing down. I think I heard that 37% of the US population eat out, rather than cook for dinner. So, 37% of over 300 million people - I guess that's a lot of onions, milk, etc...It was very interesting. My question is this, if the premise is that the farmers are being told to quit (various reasons) due to oversupply, like the onions, is accurate. What caused it? It appears to be a flat demand issue based upon what the onion farmer said. So if a large amount of his production was due to eating out needs dropping to zero (more or less), then why did we not pick up the slack on the eating in side of the equation?
Was it due to large amounts of waste associated with eating out?
Are we actually eating less when we eat at home?
We used to ship it overseas, but are not now?
I got that, but each person eats x per day and that hasn't changed due to famine. So in theory what was eaten in the restaurants is now being eaten at home. Again in theory, the same amount of food being eaten per day. So why the surplus?It sounds like it's because of all of the restaurants closing down. I think I heard that 37% of the US population eat out, rather than cook for dinner. So, 37% of over 300 million people - I guess that's a lot of onions, milk, etc...
That would make sense. Thank you for the explanation.As a young woman, I worked in food service both sitdown places and really fast food (never any place fancy but all but two were chain operations).
You would be amazed at the sheer waste that takes place there, I gather it is not as bad as it used to be but when I worked at Burger King, for example, we had to make up a bunch of stuff ahead each lunchtime and then toss it after a certain amount of time - that was mandatory and no we were not allowed to take it home or give it away.
Pizza Hut was better on the Pizzas (I ate a lot of Pizza mistakes) but the salad bar was a content source of compost - every day we had to put the stuff out and at the end of a certain number of hours (or some cases at the end of the day depending on the vegetable) it went into the trash.
This is in addition to the huge piles of food served on American fast-food and restaurant plates, most people don't realize the cost of the food in a sit-down place is not the main expense (it is overhead) so if you can pack more bodies into the place by putting out platters of stuff (especially cheap to make things like pancakes or french fries) that the Jolly Green Giant might have trouble finishing you are way ahead in terms of profits for the week.
A lot of what is being tossed now is vegetables, especially things like onion, lettuce, I'm guessing soon tomatoes as well as the squash, etc. Those are all things with a very short shelf-life, that are used by the bushels in fast food places and other outlets.
In the past, there were lots of factories that canned or froze the surplus but a lot of those are no longer around and/or they are not able to take a surplus if the farmer could get it harvested and get it there.
That is the same problem with milk, it is illegal in most places to just walk raw milk right from the cow and take it to a cheesemaker, and the cheesemakers, unless it is an in house operation, can't use it that way either.
What is collapsing (and not just in the US, but here on this side of the water) are the distribution systems that get the food harvested, taken to the market (or factory for processing) and sold or used.
In a perfect world, the food could just be redirected to food banks or canning factories and that would be that; but it doesn't work that way unfortunately, the infrastructure to make it happen is simply no longer there either.
I am hoping I don't see my neighbor a strong, good and very religious man in tears; but I expect I might if he has to start pouring milk on the ground and slaughtering his dairy herd (or just shooting them).
I think it has more to do with production lines than amounts - if certain trucks are supposed to pick up from certain farms (i.e. onion farm for restaurants) and then bring that product to places that process the produce - chopped onions, onion rings, etc... And the processing plants are either shut down or their freezers are full - the production line stops. So, we can go to the store and see that there's not enough milk - but that production line is retail, so milk is being dumped because the other production line (restaurant) has been stopped. And, I agree - at some point, we are not going to have enough food.I got that, but each person eats x per day and that hasn't changed due to famine. So in theory what was eaten in the restaurants is now being eaten at home. Again in theory, the same amount of food being eaten per day. So why the surplus?
It was very interesting. My question is this, if the premise is that the farmers are being told to quit (various reasons) due to oversupply, like the onions, is accurate. What caused it? It appears to be a flat demand issue based upon what the onion farmer said. So if a large amount of his production was due to eating out needs dropping to zero (more or less), then why did we not pick up the slack on the eating in side of the equation?
Was it due to large amounts of waste associated with eating out?
Are we actually eating less when we eat at home?
We used to ship it overseas, but are not now?
It was very interesting. My question is this, if the premise is that the farmers are being told to quit (various reasons) due to oversupply, like the onions, is accurate. What caused it? It appears to be a flat demand issue based upon what the onion farmer said. So if a large amount of his production was due to eating out needs dropping to zero (more or less), then why did we not pick up the slack on the eating in side of the equation?
Was it due to large amounts of waste associated with eating out?
Are we actually eating less when we eat at home?
We used to ship it overseas, but are not now?