CORONA Main Coronavirus thread

EMICT

Veteran Member
People used to have enough sense to come in out of the rain, or at least wear rain gear and sport an umbrella. We now, unfortunately, have to explain to people that 'if you insist on going out into the rain, you will likely get wet'... and even now, we still debate on the degree to which we will get wet or whether being told to come in out of the rain violates our constitutional rights even though by doing so, we will drip water on other's expensive carpet... or some even debate if we will even get wet at all if we go out in a rain storm.

Common sense (or obstinance) is becoming less common the more we observe human behavior.
 

poppy

Veteran Member
Just saw Cuomo on tv giving his morning briefing. He cited numbers showing new cases, hospital admissions are trending lower which could indicate the virus has reached the apex or plateau. He said 74% of those admitted to hospitals for the virus have been discharged.
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
I expect MANY more of these from people who don't want to lose everything they've worked for for years, and end up on the street starving. Figure on some of them having the same reaction in the EMP-disaster book "One Second After" where would-be uniformed confiscators go around to collect all food from preppers. :smg:


Los Angeles prosecutors charge ‘non-essential’ shops for staying open
By Olivia Bensimon
April 4, 2020

Beaches in Los Angeles county remain closed during the coronavirus pandemic.

Beaches in Los Angeles county remain closed during the coronavirus pandemic


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"Los Angeles prosecutors hit four shops with criminal charges for refusing to close during the shutdown orders imposed to slow the spread of the coronavirus, according to a report.
The move marks the first time the city has filed charges against stores for violating the “Safer at Home” order requiring “non-essential” businesses to close during the pandemic, according to the Los Angeles Times.

The stores — two smoke shops, a shoe store, and a discount electronics shop — were deemed non-essential by the order, the outlet said. The shops were charged Friday.
Mayor Eric Garcetti’s said the stores were putting people’s health at risk as they repeatedly refused to close their doors.

At one store, police officers were told, “‘Forget you’ — probably not in as nice words — ‘we’re not going to do it,'” the mayor said, according to the outlet.

“We want to let people know that we are serious about this, that businesses that flagrantly violate this will be shut down short-term and prosecuted in the medium term as well,” Garcetti warned, saying the Department of Water and Power could potentially cut off service to shops refusing to shut down.

Only essential businesses – healthcare providers, organizations serving vulnerable populations and grocery stores – can stay open during the COVID-19 emergency, LA City Attorney Mike Feuer said.
“We’re all safer at home. Nonessential businesses remaining open at this time jeopardize public health and safety, and my office is committed to vigorously enforcing the mayor’s order.”"
 

Jubilee on Earth

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[COMMENT: Could be why California's case numbers are so good and "flattening the curve."]


California’s coronavirus testing backlog is a vast 64% unprocessed

Catherine Ho April 2, 2020 Updated: April 2, 2020 9:54 p.m.


A medical professional administers a coronavirus (COVID-19) test during a drive-thru testing station on March 26, 2020 in Daly City, California. New coronavirus testing stations are opening up each day in the San Francisco Bay Area.

1of2A medical professional administers a coronavirus (COVID-19) test during a drive-thru testing station on March 26, 2020 in Daly City, California. New coronavirus testing stations are opening up each day in the San Francisco Bay Area.Photo: Justin Sullivan/Getty Images

Medical professionals administer a coronavirus (COVID-19) test during a drive-thru testing station on March 26, 2020 in Daly City, California. New coronavirus testing stations are opening up each day in the San Francisco Bay Area.

2of2Medical professionals administer a coronavirus (COVID-19) test during a drive-thru testing station on March 26, 2020 in Daly City, California. New coronavirus testing stations are opening up each day in the San Francisco Bay Area.Photo: Justin Sullivan/Getty Images

The coronavirus testing backlog in California remains at a staggering 59,500 — far more than other states publicly reporting numbers for pending test results — but Gov. Gavin Newsom on Thursday promised a “best in class” solution will be announced soon by a newly formed state testing task force.

California has struggled with test shortages that have prevented many people from getting tested at all, as well as slow processing times that have forced many doctors and patients to wait up to 10 days for results. The state ranks 39th out of 50 states and the District of Columbia in per capita testing, according to a Vox analysis of state testing data collected by the Covid Tracking Project.

About 92,500 tests had been conducted in California as of Wednesday, according to the state Department of Public Health. Roughly 33,000 results have been received and 59,500 are pending — 64%. Although only four other states report their backlogs — Florida, New Hampshire, Hawaii and Nebraska — the next worst on the list, Florida, has only 1,280 pending results, or 1.6% of tests conducted.

Delayed test results hamper doctors’ ability to make quick decisions about whether to isolate sick patients, and hinder public health officials’ ability to fully understand the extent of spread in real time.

The introduction this week of rapid-response coronavirus tests, including as a 45-minute test made by the Sunnyvale company Cepheid and a five-minute test by Abbott, may help ease the testing backlog. But Newsom said these tests won’t be widely available enough to make an immediate dent in the state’s testing backlog. California received only about 100 of the five-minute Abbott tests — a quantity the governor described as “insignificant.”

Part of the backlog appears to be tied to one major commercial lab, Quest Diagnostics, which is struggling to process an influx of tests quickly. The company said Wednesday it has 12 labs with 115,000 tests pending — including tests from around the country. Quest declined to say how many of those are California tests. And the state Department of Public Health declined to say how many of California’s 59,500 pending tests are held up at Quest.

The inability to do widespread testing is partly because of a worldwide shortage in supplies needed to collect samples and process the tests, including chemical reagents, swabs, extraction kits and protective gear for doctors who are collecting samples from sick patients.

But it remains unclear why California is near the bottom in overall testing, when compared with other states.

Without quick, widespread testing — and a far smaller backlog — health officials are unlikely to lift the state’s shelter-in-place restrictions.

Reopening workplaces and other institutions means cases are likely to tick up again, and health officials will need rapid testing to identify infected individuals and trace their contacts to avoid a second spread of the virus.

“We need to monitor trends so we know the next time (cases are) going up (and if) we need to shut things down again,” said Dr. Cyrus Shahpar, an epidemiologist who previously oversaw the global rapid response team at the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “The strategy will be containment. That requires massive testing, like South Korea. So we can’t release things until we have those things in place.”

Newsom said his upcoming announcement will address both diagnostic and serology tests. The latter detects the presence of antibodies in blood, which indicate whether a person has ever been infected with the virus.

“We have a new task force on tests and will provide some good news about our capacity to substantially increase our tests in the state of California,” Newsom said. “We have a remarkable collection of individuals now advising us to get to the next level, which could be best in class from an international perspective, not just a national perspective in terms of improving the time to diagnostics and ability to get more samples.”

This post is both disturbing and appalling.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
20 gauge it is called the Darwin Award. There are now 2 particularly STUPID classes of people here in CONUS now: one is/was anybody who took a cruise ship after the one in Japan, and second anybody who hasn't made at least a minimal effort to stock up. The third would be anybody who won't buy a gun and ammo. :siren:
I do agree. It does amaze me the number of people who just don't pay attention to anything at all.

As far as the gun and ammo, that should apply to 1st world nations also. It sure does feel that way. A few years ago it was the Hillary is going to take them mantra, but now it is we may need to use them mantra....
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
People used to have enough sense to come in out of the rain, or at least wear rain gear and sport an umbrella. We now, unfortunately, have to explain to people that 'if you insist on going out into the rain, you will likely get wet'... and even now, we still debate on the degree to which we will get wet or whether being told to come in out of the rain violates our constitutional rights even though by doing so, we will drip water on other's expensive carpet... or some even debate if we will even get wet at all if we go out in a rain storm.

Common sense (or obstinance) is becoming less common the more we observe human behavior.

I've been saying for a few years now: Common Sense ain't.
 
Posted Apr 3, 2020 at 7:43 PM

Steuben County hits 60 confirmed cases, says one individual broke mandatory quarantine

BATH – Steuben County set a new single-day high once again on Friday, with 11 more residents testing positive for COVID-19.
This brings the total to 60 confirmed cases, the Steuben County Public Health Department said Friday night.

Additionally, a previously reported case broke mandatory quarantine after receiving positive test results, the Health Department said. The individual visited Giovanni’s Pizzeria Restaurant in Hornell on April 3 while symptomatic.

“Cases will continue to rise exponentially if people do not follow public health guidelines and stay home,” said Public Health Director Darlene Smith. “When we say ‘stay home to save lives’ we mean exactly that. Lives are absolutely at stake right now. Help us. Stay home.”
The 11 new cases are residents of:
· City of Hornell (2)
· Town of Corning
· Town of Hornellsville (3)
· Town of Howard
· Village of Canisteo
· Village of North Hornell (3)
One or more of the cases reported Friday is linked with previously reported individual, said the Health Department.

Cases have been reported from Elderwood Nursing Home in Hornell. The facility is aware and taking precautions to limit spread and exposure risks.

All of the individuals are currently being isolated and monitored by the County Health Department. Public Health staff investigated and identified close contacts of the confirmed cases and any exposure risks. All those known to have direct contact with the individuals have been notified.

The investigations indicate that most of the individuals followed Public Health protocols, resulting in limited known public exposure risks.

However, one or more of the individuals reported visiting the following locations while symptomatic.
· March 30–April 2 - Arc of Steuben Van Scoter IRA in Hornell (Transport)
· March 31 late Afternoon/Evening – Wegmans in Hornell (Grocery)
· March 31 Late Afternoon/Evening – Walmart in Hornell (Grocery)
· March 31 Late Afternoon/Evening – Aldi in Hornell (Grocery)
Further investigation of a previously reported case indicates that an individual visited the following location while symptomatic before receiving test results.

· March 22-25 – Southern Tier Express in Greenwood (Transport)
Residents, including those who visited the above locations on the days noted, should continue to monitor themselves for COVID-19 symptoms of fever, cough and shortness of breath and contact their healthcare provider for instructions if feeling ill.
For the latest Steuben County updates, visit Steuben County’s website at www.steubencony.org

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Dr. Deborah Birx: 'This is the moment to not be going to the grocery store, not going to the pharmacy'
From CNN’s Nicky Robertson

Dr. Deborah Birx emphasized Saturday that the next two weeks will be crucial for the effort to flatten the curve of coronavirus cases.
"This is a very important -- the next two weeks are extraordinarily important, and that's why I think you've heard from Dr. (Anthony) Fauci, from myself, from the President and the Vice President that this is the moment to do everything that you can on the presidential guidelines," Birx said. "This is the moment to not be going to the grocery store, not going to the pharmacy, but doing everything you can to keep your family and your friends safe, and that means everybody doing the 6 feet distancing, washing your hands."
Birx made her comments at the daily coronavirus task briefing at the White House.

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EMICT

Veteran Member
Personally, I feel that this is a bridge too far.

Ankle-Monitors Ordered For Kentucky Residents As Crackdown On 'Covidiots' Begins
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by Tyler Durden
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As we've noted in recent months, COVID-19 is the perfect cover for the government to usher in a massive surveillance state.

Residents in Kentucky are figuring this out firsthand, have already seen an increase in digital surveillance of smartphone tracking by the government to make sure everyone is practicing social distancing. And now, there's a new report that shows anyone refusing to quarantine after virus exposure could be subjected to wearing a GPS/cellular ankle bracelet issued by the courts.



As a response to the virus outbreak in the state, Jefferson Circuit Court judge Angela Bisig ordered anyone who has been infected by COVID-19 and fails to isolate will wear an ankle monitoring device.

CNN affiliate WDRB reported last week that Bisig ordered an individual identified as "D.L." to wear a GPS monitoring device for 14 days after refusing to self-quarantine.

In the court order, D.L. is living with "someone who has tested positive for the illness and another person who is a presumptive case," according to an affidavit from Dr. Sarah Moyer, director of the health department.

D.L. was ordered to self-isolate at home after being exposed to the highly contagious disease, but according to court documents, family members said the person "leaves the house often."

After D.L. failed to respond to Bisig's request, she ordered the Department of Corrections to fit D.L. with a monitoring device. Bisig told the person if they leave the house again, criminal charges would be next.

WDRB said D.L. is not the only Kentuckian wearing an ankle monitor device to mitigate the spread of the virus from non-compliant and suspected carriers. There are three other cases.

This report comes after a group of millennials threw a "coronavirus party" that resulted in one person contracting the deadly virus. So far, 917 people in the state have tested positive, and 40 have died (as of Sunday morning, April 5).



And before you know it, "pandemic drones" could be circling above, identifying if a person is a suspected COVID-19 carrier. In essence, America's dystopian future is arriving a lot faster than anyone has anticipated.
 
US Northern Command deploys 1,000 medical personnel to New York City
From CNN's Jamie Crawford

US Northern Command, which oversees US military operations in North America, said it was “deploying a combined total of 1,000 Air Force and Navy medical providers to the New York City area in next 3 days,” according to a press release sent Sunday.
“Approximately 300 of these uniformed medical providers will work from the Javits Center and the rest will deploy to other area locations to expand local medical capabilities in the war against Covid-19,” the release said.
During an interview with CNN, Defense Secretary Mark Esper spoke of the effort.

“The mayor and I talked as recently as Thursday. I spoke to the governor on Friday. What we plan on doing now is deploying over 1,100 additional doctors, nurses, and other medical personnel to New York. The bulk of them will go to the Javits center and then as of late yesterday, we agreed to deploy a few hundred of them to 11 New York City hospitals that are also seeing a deficiency when it comes to medical staff,” Esper said on CNN Sunday morning.
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Hfcomms

EN66iq
US records 1,497 virus deaths in 24 hours - the highest single-day toll of any country so far - with almost half in NYC, as cases rise to 310,000 and total deaths hit 8,500 leaving hospitals overwhelmed
  • US death toll from coronavirus skyrocketed by 1,497 in one day, taking the death toll to 8,503 and counting
  • Confirmed coronavirus cases reached 311,632, triple that of Spain and Italy
  • New York City alone accounts for more than a quarter of the US deaths
  • Virus took its grimmest daily death toll yet in New York state, with 788 dying in a day
  • Michigan now has the third highest case count after New York and New Jersey
  • Detroit has 223 deaths, the most in a US metro area other than New York City
The US set a grim global record on Saturday with the number of deaths from coronavirus leaping by 1,497 in just one day taking the death toll past 8,500.

Almost half of the day's fatalities were in New York City, where the death toll reached 2,624 and hospital corridors were littered with body bags containing the latest victims.

The US death toll skyrocketed to 8,503 by the end of Saturday, and the number of cases surged by 33,324 leaving 311,632 Americans infected by the killer virus.

This marks the highest number of infections anywhere in the world.

While the death toll in Italy (15,362) and Spain (11,947) is still higher, the US now dwarfs the hard-hit European nations' infections, with both Italy (124,632) and Spain (126,168) reporting only around a third of the number of infections across the US.

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo warned that the pandemic is 'like a fire spreading', as his state continues to be ravaged and ruined by the crisis.

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The gut-wrenching death toll comes as:

  • US infections reached almost three times that of the next hardest-hit countries Spain and Italy
  • 788 New Yorkers died from the virus in 24 hours as the city's fatalities make up a quarter of the US death toll
  • New York City prepares to wake up to 'D-Day' Sunday, when the Big Apple will find out if its medical supplies are going to hold up as the outbreak reaches its peak
  • Shocking images show body bags containing the latest victims of the killer virus spilling out into the corridors of the city's hospitals
  • The NYPD is on its knees with 18,000 members testing positive and 10 dead
  • NY Gov Cuomo said the pandemic was like a 'fire spreading' as more states emerge as new epicenters
  • Louisiana has become a key concern with New Orleans patients dying at twice the rate per capita as in New York
  • Michigan now has more cases that California with 12,744
  • President Trump told Americans to prepare for the 'toughest week' next week
  • The president also said the NFL would kick off soon and that he didn't want the country shut down for 'months and months'
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The US' epicenter for the outbreak is yet to reach its 'apex' but its hospitals and morgues are near breaking point already.

New York state's death toll surged to 3,565 Saturday as another 788 New Yorkers died from the virus, marking the biggest one-day toll there yet.

The number of new cases in the state reached 10,675 and the total number of infections topped 113,833, higher than the number of infections in the whole of hard-hit Spain.

New York City alone made up 757 of the state's 788 new deaths, and more than half of the US's daily deaths from coronavirus.

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Bodies are seen lying in corridors inside the Wyckoff Hospital as the healthcare system is overwhelmed with fatalities
New York City hospitals continue to be overwhelmed with the mounting bodies, with shocking images emerging of body bags containing the latest victims of the killer virus spilling out into the corridors at Wyckoff Hospital in Brooklyn


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New York City hospitals continue to be overwhelmed with the mounting bodies, with shocking images emerging of body bags containing the latest victims of the killer virus spilling out into the corridors at Wyckoff Hospital in Brooklyn
New York City alone made up 757 of the state's 788 new deaths, and more than half of the US's daily deaths from coronavirus. The makeshift morgue outside Wyckoff hospital in Brooklyn contains the latest victims of the killer illness


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New York City alone made up 757 of the state's 788 new deaths, and more than half of the US's daily deaths from coronavirus. The makeshift morgue outside Wyckoff hospital in Brooklyn contains the latest victims of the killer illness
The body of a dead coronavirus patient is seen being moved in an orange body bag from Wyckoff Heights Medical Center in Brooklyn to a refrigerator truck being used as temporary morgue


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The body of a dead coronavirus patient is seen being moved in an orange body bag from Wyckoff Heights Medical Center in Brooklyn to a refrigerator truck being used as temporary morgue
In total, the city's 2,624 fatalities account for more than a quarter of all coronavirus deaths across the 50 states.

The rate of new cases also showed no sign of slowing, with 6,147 recorded Saturday taking the number of infections to a staggering 63,306.

Long Island is seeing a spike in cases, with Cuomo warning that it 'is the area that is growing'.

More than 13,000 cases have been confirmed in Nassau County, as questions are being asked whether wealthy New Yorkers fleeing the city to retreat to holiday homes there could have triggered the spread.
New York City hospitals continue to be overwhelmed with the mounting bodies, with shocking images emerging of body bags containing the latest victims of the killer virus spilling out into the corridors at Wyckoff Hospital in Brooklyn.

As the number of dead rises, funeral homes have reported becoming 'overwhelmed' with the grim death tally and bodies are now lying for days in refrigerated trucks outside hospitals.

Crematories have extended their hours and burned bodies into the night, as city officials were looking elsewhere in the state for temporary interment sites.

Because of the risk of infection, many people with critically ill relatives in New York City are unable to see their loved ones in their final hours.

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A resident at New York-Presbyterian hospital said he and his colleagues have made several death notification phone calls every shift this week.

'There's something sort of unquantifiably painful about telling a family their loved one died without letting them see them,' he said.

Funerals cannot be held due to social distancing guidelines meaning loved ones are left mourning them from afar.

Doctors at the Brooklyn Hospital Center told how they are buckling under the strain of the pandemic, with its ICU overflowing desperately trying to save people of all ages.

Dr. Joshua Rosenberg, a critical care doctor, told the New York Times its ICU had more than doubled in size in the last week, turning the chemotherapy infusion unit into a spillover unit in order to take on the growing number of people in a critical condition.

Concerns are mounting that there will soon be a shortage of life-saving ventilators.

The hospital temporarily ran out of protective plastic gowns, the main sedative for patients on ventilators and key blood pressure medication, reported the New York Times.

Shortages of gowns and PPE are such a concern, there is no chance of changing in between patients.

Around a third of medical staff were also out of work sick as Cuomo again begged for more medical professionals to come to New York and support it in its hours of need.

He announced that he will sign an executive order to allow medical students who were slated to graduate this spring to begin practicing now.

Trump announced Saturday that he will be sending 1,000 extra medical personnel from the armed forces to New York.

On Friday, all cell phones in the city were issued an emergency alert calling on all healthcare workers to aid in medical facilities if they can.

About 85,000 medical workers have answered the cry for help, with 22,000 traveling from out of state to work in the epicenter.

Ernest N. Morial Convention Center in New Orleans, Louisiana, has been set up as a field hospital for coronavirus patients


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Ernest N. Morial Convention Center in New Orleans, Louisiana, has been set up as a field hospital for coronavirus patients
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A bed in the field hospital. New Orleans is recording a higher death rate per capita than New York
The city teeters on the brink of collapse with this Sunday, April 5, deemed 'D-Day' for the city when it will reveal whether supplies are going to hold up as the outbreak in the Big Apple reaches its peak.

Cuomo has already stressed that hospitals in the city have just a few days left before they will run out of ventilators.

Oregon loaned the state 140 ventilators, the governor said Saturday.

The situation will only get more dire with New York's apex, or the peak in the number of new daily cases, likely about a week away.

'By the numbers, we're not yet at the apex. We're getting closer depending whose model you're looking at,' said Cuomo. 'We're somewhere in the seven day range.'

The city's essential workforce is falling victim to the pandemic, with more than 1,800 NYPD members testing positive for the virus.

On Friday, almost 7,000 uniformed officers called in sick.

By Saturday, ten NYPD members had died from coronavirus, with Police Commissioner Dermot Shea announcing the tragic deaths of veteran schools safety agent Luis Albino and Auxiliary Police Lt. Pierre Moise on Friday.
Both had served more than 20 years in the force.

As the nation looks on in despair, other states are fast on track to become the new deadly hotspots.

'It is like a fire spreading,' Cuomo warned Saturday, of the alarming spread of the virus from the New York City epicenter. 'The fire, it doesn't max out in one place, but it consumes where it is and it's moving out.'

Michigan now has more cases than California, with 12,744 in Michigan and 12,603 in California. Outside of New York City, Detroit is the metro area with the highest death toll, with 223 dead in Wayne County.

Louisiana has become a key concern as it reported a jump in deaths to 409 on Saturday.

The Gulf state's largest city, New Orleans, where Mardi Gras celebrations in late February are believed to have helped spread the virus before social distancing orders were imposed, has become a focal point of the health crisis.

Patients in New Orleans are dying at twice the rate per capita as in New York.

Louisiana Governor John Edwards said he spoke with Vice President Mike Pence on Saturday - and that he had been promised an additional 200 ventilators from the national stockpile.

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President Donald Trump warned Americans Saturday that there will be many more deaths in the coming week.

Trump predicted that the coming week would be one of the 'toughest' weeks the country could face during the pandemic.

'This will probably be the toughest week - between this week and next week,' Trump said during his daily White House briefing.

'There will be a lot of death, unfortunately. But a lot less death than if this wasn't done,' he added of the measures taken to prevent the spread of the virus.

Fears that the worst is yet to come over the Easter holidays fly in the face of Trump's past claims that he wanted the nation to be back to business by the date.

But the president continued to moan about the effects on the economy as the fatalities rage on around him: 'We don't want to be doing this for months and months and months. This country wasn't meant for this.'

Earlier Saturday, Trump had said that Dana Perino, a Fox News Channel host and former White House press secretary under President George W. Bush, had a 'good idea!' when she floated the idea that the president should form a second coronavirus taskforce to plan how, exactly, to open back up the economy.

'Thinking about it,' the president confirmed at the briefing. 'Getting a group of people.'

At noon on Saturday Trump met with all the major league sports commissioners.

ESPN reported that he said on the call that he predicted the NFL season would kick off in time.

At the briefing he refused to give a when, disputing he had said August.

'I want fans back in the arenas,' he said. 'Whenever we're ready, as soon as we can.'

The president then predicted it would be sooner than later.

He also said the Republicans had no 'contingency plan' to reschedule the August Republican National Convention in Charlotte, North Carolina. The Democrats, whose convention in Milwaukee was supposed to be held in July, already announced a new August date.

'We're not going to have to have separation for the rest of our time on the planet,' the president said.

White House medical experts have forecast that between 100,000 to 240,000 Americans could be killed in the pandemic, even if sweeping orders to stay home are followed.

Almost all Americans are under orders from state and local officials to stay home except for essential outings such as grocery shopping or seeing a doctor.

Arkansas, Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota and South Dakota are now the only states that do not have either major city or statewide stay-at-home orders in place.

Areas of the country such as Florida and Texas that had been slow to lock down have started practicing social distancing and sheltering at home.

'We see what's going on in New York now, we see that people are dying,' Rick Scott, a U.S. senator from Florida, told Fox News Channel.

'People are beginning to understand that the best way that we can slow the spread and actually avoid death is by this stay-at-home standard, going out only for essential services,' Texas governor Greg Abbott told the channel. He was among the last governors to issue a statewide order telling residents to avoid leaving their home.

There were still some hold-outs elsewhere, though.

Louisiana pastor Tony Spell said he plans to hold three services at his 1,000-member Life Tabernacle megachurch in a suburb of Baton Rouge, Louisiana on Palm Sunday this weekend, defying state orders against assembling in large groups.

'We're defying the rules because the commandment of God is to spread the Gospel,' he told Reuters.

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bw

Fringe Ranger
Looks like some field-engineered shelves with those bodies on it, in a truck rather than in a hallway. Interesting. Built by someone who had never built shelves before, from the look of it.

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Troke

On TB every waking moment
Looks like the Big D is a sure thing. The Left must be wetting its panties in ecstasy. After nearly a 100 years, they are finally going to create the Elysian Fields.............. for them.
 

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Troke

On TB every waking moment
My understanding is that, while the virus particle is in fact that small in size, when encountered in public it typically is attached to a globule of saliva or something that is much larger and that the mask blocks the total aggregate of which the virus is a part.
Careful. You are interfering with the Quest for Purity, a characteristic of this forum. If they can't get 100% purity, they don't want it. Better zero than 50%.
 

Pinecone

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Question for those who would know. Are the body bags orange because the person died of an infectious agent, or is it just an orange body bag as opposed to the black ones?
 
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[CCP Virus] Gordon Chang: Did China’s Regime Downplay Covid 19 to Allow For Its Global Spread?
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KEY POINTS OF INTEREST
4:32 Did the Chinese regime intentionally downplay the CCP virus so it could spread worldwide?
13:02 A second wave of infections in China?
16:50 The Chinese regime’s big propaganda push
21:20 Why it’s critical to bring supply chains out of China
27:04 Big Pharma’s pushback against a potential “Buy American” executive order
32:11 The People’s Liberation Army is becoming increasingly belligerent while the rest of the world is distracted?
34:47 Is the Chinese Communist Party nearing collapse?
48:41 Is saying “Chinese virus” racist?

How did the actions of the Chinese Communist Party directly lead to the global CCP virus, or COVID 19, pandemic?

Has the US reached a “Pearl Harbor” or “Sputnik” moment with respect to the Chinese regime?

Could it be possible that the severity of the COVID 19 reality in China was intentionally downplayed to allow for the global spread of the virus?

And, with the world focused on the pandemic, how is the People’s Liberation Army becoming increasingly belligerent?

In this episode, we sit down with Gordon Chang, a political commentator, China analyst, and author of “The Coming Collapse of China.”

This is American Thought Leaders , and I’m Jan Jekielek.

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Pinecone

Has No Life - Lives on TB

Here’s the Damage Coronavirus (COVID-19) Can Do to Your Lungs
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coronavirus and the lungs

As the coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak continues, we’re learning more about the disease, what it does to the body and the damage it can cause. But not sure you understand yet exactly what the virus can do to you?

Although many people with COVID-19 have no symptoms or only mild symptoms, a subset of patients develop severe respiratory illness and may need to be admitted for intensive care.

In a new video, lung pathologist Sanjay Mukhopadhyay, MD, lays out in detail how the lungs are affected in these severe cases. The 15-minute video walks through how COVID-19 causes a “dangerous and potentially fatal” condition known as acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) while providing stark images that underscore the severity of the damage that condition can cause to your lungs.

What’s the connection between coronavirus and ARDS?

As Dr. Mukhopadhyay explains, Chinese researchers have linked COVID-19 to ARDS. Their study examined risk factors for 191 confirmed coronavirus patients who died while being treated in two hospitals in Wuhan, China.

The researchers found 50 of the 54 patients who died had developed ARDS while only nine of the 137 survivors had ARDS.
“It’s a really, really significant contribution to death in these patients,” says Dr. Mukhopadhyay.

How can doctors tell if you have ARDS?

If you have ARDS, you’ll have symptoms like sudden breathlessness, rapid breathing, dizziness, rapid heart rate and excessive sweating.

But the four main things doctors will look for are:
  • If you have an acute condition, symptoms that started within one week of what they call a “known clinical insult,” or new or worsening symptoms.
  • If your shortness of breath isn’t explained by heart failure or fluid overload.
  • Having low oxygen levels in your blood (severe hypoxia).
  • Both lungs appearing white and opaque (versus black) on chest X-rays (called bilateral lung opacities on chest imaging).
So how does ARDS actually damage your lungs?

Most importantly, patients who are suffering from ARDS end up having damage to the walls of the air sacs in their lungs — the ones that help oxygen pass through into our red blood cells. That’s what doctors term diffuse alvelolar damage.

In a healthy lung, oxygen within these air sacs (alveolus) travels through to small blood vessels (capillaries). These tiny vessels, in turn, deliver the oxygen to your red blood cells.

“Nature has evolved in a way that the wall of alveolus is very, very thin in a normal person so oxygen can easily get from the air space in between to the red blood cell,” Dr. Mukhopadhyay explains.

The coronavirus damages both the wall and lining cells of the alveolus as well as the capillaries. The debris that accumulates because of all of that damage lines the wall of the alveolus the same way paint would cover a wall, Dr. Mukhopadhyay points out. The damage to capillaries also causes them to leak plasma proteins that add to the wall’s thickness.

“Eventually, the wall of the alveolus gets thicker than it should be,” he notes. “The thicker this wall gets, the harder it is to transfer oxygen, the more you feel short of breath, and the more and more you start moving towards severe illness and possibly death.”

Why is understanding how COVID-19 affects your lungs important?

The whole point, Dr. Mukhopadhyay stresses, is to emphasize what the coronavirus is capable of doing to a body, particularly high-risk patients who may be more vulnerable to infection. He hopes this will get people to take the current outbreak seriously.

“Please don’t dismiss this as ‘just another viral infection that will pass,'” he says. “Please take all the precautions that the CDC is outlining. Please protect yourself, your family, and others.”
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Personally, I feel that this is a bridge too far.

Ankle-Monitors Ordered For Kentucky Residents As Crackdown On 'Covidiots' Begins
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by Tyler Durden
Sun, 04/05/2020 - 10:55
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As we've noted in recent months, COVID-19 is the perfect cover for the government to usher in a massive surveillance state.

Residents in Kentucky are figuring this out firsthand, have already seen an increase in digital surveillance of smartphone tracking by the government to make sure everyone is practicing social distancing. And now, there's a new report that shows anyone refusing to quarantine after virus exposure could be subjected to wearing a GPS/cellular ankle bracelet issued by the courts.



As a response to the virus outbreak in the state, Jefferson Circuit Court judge Angela Bisig ordered anyone who has been infected by COVID-19 and fails to isolate will wear an ankle monitoring device.

CNN affiliate WDRB reported last week that Bisig ordered an individual identified as "D.L." to wear a GPS monitoring device for 14 days after refusing to self-quarantine.

In the court order, D.L. is living with "someone who has tested positive for the illness and another person who is a presumptive case," according to an affidavit from Dr. Sarah Moyer, director of the health department.

D.L. was ordered to self-isolate at home after being exposed to the highly contagious disease, but according to court documents, family members said the person "leaves the house often."

After D.L. failed to respond to Bisig's request, she ordered the Department of Corrections to fit D.L. with a monitoring device. Bisig told the person if they leave the house again, criminal charges would be next.

WDRB said D.L. is not the only Kentuckian wearing an ankle monitor device to mitigate the spread of the virus from non-compliant and suspected carriers. There are three other cases.

This report comes after a group of millennials threw a "coronavirus party" that resulted in one person contracting the deadly virus. So far, 917 people in the state have tested positive, and 40 have died (as of Sunday morning, April 5).



And before you know it, "pandemic drones" could be circling above, identifying if a person is a suspected COVID-19 carrier. In essence, America's dystopian future is arriving a lot faster than anyone has anticipated.

Go long ankle monitors!
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Question for those who would know. Are the body bags orange because the person died of an infectious agent, or is it just an orange body bag as opposed to the black ones?

Let me guess that they may be soon at the "whatever is at hand" stage...
 

TorahTips

Membership Revoked
A mighty troubling statistic: There are 1240000 people who have had COVID-19 (total)

Out of those 1.2 million people 74% (over 940k) are still sick.

Interpretation: This is a slight bit more than the common cold that is done and gone in 3 to 5 days.
 

Trivium Pursuit

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Careful. You are interfering with the Quest for Purity, a characteristic of this forum. If they can't get 100% purity, they don't want it. Better zero than 50%.
Troke, you're right. That said, I am choosing to reinforce one of the most important metanarratives of this thread, in terms of what we've learned and what we should be doing:

For a number of reasons listed below, the majority of us will come in contact with this virus at 1 point or another. After 17 years here, it's clear to me that: The meta theme of this entire board is detecting external threats in advance and using preparation and what we've learned to protect ourselves and our loved ones.

So, What have we learned about this situation? We have learned that our chances are survival are better if we get a low initial viral load of this thing, rather than having coughed into our face. We have learned that the longer we do not get the virus, the more likely it is that cures, especially safer and safer cures will have time to be developed. And our interest in preventing the spread to others is also tied the fact that for services like power, food distribution sanitation and health care, we DEPEND ON on other people.

Therefore, The highest theme of this board, the protection of the interests and safety of us and those we love, is best served by wearing hopefully the best mask, but at the very least, some kind of mask with the best protection power possible. And encouraging others to do so.

If you don't understand that, I'm fresh out of crayons and cannot help you.

Reasons as promised above: Between the power of this virus to spread rapidly whether asymptomatically or presymptomatically, the immunological naivety of the population and the incompetence of officialdom, and the challenge of overcoming normalcy bias, we're likely to encounter this ccpvirus.
 
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Melodi

Disaster Cat
Leading from the front lines - he's our Prime Minister (Taoiseach) at least for a few more days or weeks yet (his party lost the election but there hasn't been a new government formed yet - so he is still the legal Head of Government).
Taoiseach will work as a doctor one day a week
Updated / Sunday, 5 Apr 2020 19:48

Taoiseach Leo Varadkar will work one shift a week as a doctor
Taoiseach Leo Varadkar will work one shift a week as a doctor

Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has re-registered as a medical practitioner and will work one shift a week to help out during the coronavirus crisis.

Mr Varadkar worked as a doctor for seven years before leaving the profession to become a politician and was removed from the medical register in 2013.

He rejoined the medical register in March, and offered his services to the HSE for one session a week, in areas that are within his scope of practice, a spokesperson for his office confirmed.

"Many of his family and friends are working in the health service. He wanted to help out even in a small way," the spokesperson added.



The Taoiseach comes from a medical family. He is the son of a doctor and a nurse, while his partner also works as a doctor.

Last month, Health Minister Simon Harris launched a recruitment drive for the HSE as it prepared to tackle the coronavirus outbreak with a stark message: "Your country needs you."

The HSE said it had spoken to thousands of healthcare professionals after it received more than 70,000 responses for its "Be on call for Ireland" initiative.
 

jward

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