bev
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Awesome! Yesterday I heard Facebook was donating a bunch as well.
Now, why would Apple and Facebook have N95 masks at all, and why so many?
Do all big companies have stockpiles of masks?
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Awesome! Yesterday I heard Facebook was donating a bunch as well.
Now, why would Apple and Facebook have N95 masks at all, and why so many?
Do all big companies have stockpiles of masks?
mzkitty
I give up.
I think he's very much a Type "A" personality and he loves to work. He's wishing.
I've never said I believe China. We all know they lied early on. But I do trust facts more than opinion. We now have death rates for several countries with lots of infections. Why would you think the virus would kill people in China at a rate 40X the rest of the world? Flimsy reasoning like 21 million missing cell phones missing proves nothing. Millions of foreign workers left China because they were laid off and to flee the flu. How many Chinese workers were laid off during their shutdown? Just like here, no income makes it hard to pay the bills and food is more important than cell phones. I'll wager we have or will have a big drop in cell phone numbers too as the phone bills come due and people have no money to pay them.
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Carnival Corporation CEO tells employees in a leaked video that there are no mass cuts coming as industry reels from coronavirus pandemic: 'We'll be in a position to survive this' even as operations stop
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and why didn't they donate them last month or last week? i thought they were the social media kings who knew everything that was going on in 'Merica.
Probably has nothing to do with the executive order which bans the hoarding of vital medical equipment and supplies including hand sanitizer, face masks and personal protection equipment and makes it a crime to stockpile those items in excessive quantities. Especially since they volunteered this outstanding public service the day after the order.
Nah, nothing to see here
marsh
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Read in one of the tweets in the past few pages that India has prohibited exports of Chloroquine Phosphate. Just ANOTHER example of how our great "trading" partners are not there for us after we have allowed ourselves to become dependent upon them. I don't blame them, it is our own fault.
If a stimulus is not passed, he will be unable to keep people from work. As soon as one businessman realizes there is going to be no parachute, he is going to call his best people up and tell them he is opening in the morning. And he will make money. And one after another, business will open back up and people will joyfully go back to work - corona or no. And the politicians can go **** themselves
Oh I could have some fun with those calls, if they were actual people and spoke English.
TheSearcher
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Pretty much. That's not me judging whether that's a good thing or not, but it's pretty likely.
marsh
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I just got a new toy - a scanner. I have been letting the packaging air after spraying with Lysol, but get to open it tomorrow!
mzkitty
I give up.
March 24, 2020 | 5:04pm
Seriously sick coronavirus patients in New York state’s largest hospital system are being given massive doses of vitamin C — based on promising reports that it’s helped people in hard-hit China, The Post has learned.
Dr. Andrew G. Weber, a pulmonologist and critical-care specialist affiliated with two Northwell Health facilities on Long Island, said his intensive-care patients with the coronavirus immediately receive 1,500 milligrams of intravenous vitamin C.
Identical amounts of the powerful antioxidant are then re-administered three or four times a day, he said.
Each dose is more than 16 times the National Institutes of Health’s daily recommended dietary allowance of vitamin C, which is just 90 milligrams for adult men and 75 milligrams for adult women.
The regimen is based on experimental treatments administered to people with the coronavirus in Shanghai, China, Weber said.
“The patients who received vitamin C did significantly better than those who did not get vitamin C,” he said.
“It helps a tremendous amount, but it is not highlighted because it’s not a sexy drug.”
A spokesman for Northwell — which operates 23 hospitals, including Lenox Hill Hospital on Manhattan’s Upper East Side — said that vitamin C was being “widely used” as a coronavirus treatment throughout the system, but noted that medication protocols varied from patient to patient.
“As the clinician decides,” spokesman Jason Molinet said.
About 700 patients are being treated for coronavirus across the hospital network, Molinet said, but it’s unclear how many are getting the vitamin C treatment.
The vitamin C is administered in addition to such medicines as the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine, the antibiotic azithromycin, various biologics and blood thinners, Weber said.
As of Tuesday, New York hospitals have federal permission to give patients a cocktail of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin to desperately ill patients on a “compassionate care” basis.
President Trump has tweeted that the unproven, combination therapy has “a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine.”
Weber, 34, said vitamin C levels in coronavirus patients drop dramatically when they suffer sepsis, an inflammatory response that occurs when their bodies overreact to the infection.
“It makes all the sense in the world to try and maintain this level of vitamin C,” he said.
A clinical trial into the effectiveness of intravenous vitamin C on coronavirus patients began Feb. 14 at Zhongnan Hospital in Wuhan, China, the epicenter of the pandemic.
New York hospitals treating coronavirus patients with vitamin C
Seriously sick coronavirus patients in New York state’s largest hospital system are being given massive doses of vitamin C — based on promising reports that it’s helped people in hard-h…
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Maybe they're doing the India first thing. I can't blame any country for putting their country first right now.
marsh
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I believe it was one of Chris Martenson's videos that the cruise lines oprate offshore so they don't pay taxes to the US. Their employees get paid about $2 an hour and are hired offshore. Why the hell are we so concerned about bailing them out with taxpayer money?
marsh
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What about the Mormon Church? Didn't one of their high ranking leaders donate a ton of masks to a children's hospital in China from his warehouse? I haven't heard that he has done anything similar here.
TheSearcher
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Yep. It's a lesson we need to learn, most rikki tikki. And never, EVER, forget it.
marsh
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Trump says he wants country 'opened up' by Easter, despite caution from health experts
Public health experts have said easing restrictions too early could put an enormous strain on hospitals and lead to even more deaths and economic damage.
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Trump says he wants country 'opened up' by Easter, despite caution from health experts
Public health experts have said easing restrictions too early could put an enormous strain on hospitals and lead to even more deaths and economic damage.
"This cure is worse than the problem," President Donald Trump said Tuesday, March 24, 2020, about efforts to combat the coronavirus.Alex Brandon / AP
WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump said Tuesday he wants the country back to business by April 12, Easter Sunday, when he would like to see churches full of people, even as the coronavirus pandemic worsens.
"I would love to have the country opened up and raring to go by Easter," Trump said during a Fox News interview.
Trump said he'd like to see "churches packed full of people for Easter," but that the timeline wasn't based on data indicating the public health risk could be gone by then. Rather, the president said at a White House briefing, he “just thought it was a beautiful time.” Trump said he would listen to the advice of his top health officials.
Trump is “continuing to evaluate the data, working with the task force, and making decisions based on the interests of our fantastic country," he said.
Tony Fauci, the top infectious disease researcher at the National Institutes of Health who has at times countered Trump's messaging, indicated he had discussed a possible timeline with the president before the briefing.
"You can look at the date, but you've got to be very flexible on it literally on a day by day, week by week basis," Fauci said. "You need to evaluate the feasibility of what you're trying to do, "
Public health experts and local and state leaders have cautioned against easing restrictions too early, saying it could put an enormous strain on hospitals and lead to even more deaths and economic damage. But Trump said Tuesday that he believed the human toll would be greater should Americans continue to stay at home.
"This cure is worse than the problem," Trump said during a Fox News interview earlier in the day, adding that "in my opinion, more people are going to die if we allow this to continue."
At the same time, the White House issued strict new guidelines for people who have traveled to New York City, recommending they self-quarantine for 14 days if they recently left the region.
A White House official said the president does not view Easter as a date that he can begin to open things up, but a date by which the economy is speeding again. That means the loosening of restrictions would, under this scenario, start much sooner. The official says the focus now remains on how to get there, in phases, to address the challenges demographically and geographically.
Trump said people can continue to practice good hygiene and social distancing even while going back to work to try to control the virus' spread.
Trump on Tuesday expressed frustration with the economic consequences of having millions of Americans staying home and compared the coronavirus to the flu, despite public experts cautioning against the comparison.
"We lose thousands and thousands of people a year to the flu, we don't turn the country off every year," he said.
Administration officials, eager to get the country back to business, have grown increasingly concerned in recent days about the economic impact the tight restrictions on movement and social interactions are having. These officials said they worry that the White House went too far in allowing public health experts to set policy and that their actions did not need to be so draconian.
The push for Americans to stay home, championed by public health experts, is aimed at curbing the spread of the virus and "flattening the curve" of new cases. Officials in Italy were slow to isolate affected regions and limit movement, leading to one of the world's worst outbreaks so far.
While Trump may want to see American life return to normal, many governors and mayors are the ones putting orders in place telling residents to stay at home and closing schools, restaurants and bars. On Monday, Michigan's governor issued a three-week order telling people not to gather in public or private with people who are not part of their household, with some exceptions, and Virginia closed its schools for the rest of the year.
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Tuesday strongly pushed back on calls to ease health guidelines in hopes of boosting the economy, saying that "we will not put a dollar figure on human life."
"We can have a public health strategy that is consistent with an economic one," he tweeted. "No one should be talking about social darwinism for the sake of the stock market."
Intestinal Fortitude
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WTF!!
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What is hantavirus? Man in China tests positive after dying of infection spread by rodents
What is hantavirus? Man in China tests positive after dying of infection spread by rodents
The virus is rarely passed between humans and usually originates from rodent waste.
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What is hantavirus? Man in China tests positive after dying of infection spread by rodents
What is hantavirus? Man in China tests positive after dying of infection spread by rodents
The virus is rarely passed between humans and usually originates from rodent waste.
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Intestinal Fortitude
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City of Miami orders residents to shelter in place
City of Miami orders residents to shelter in place
City of Miami orders residents to shelter in place
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7 new cases of Coronavirus in Venezuela, bringing the total to 91 according to Maduro #Venezuela #Coronavirus
Bps1691
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I can only hope that after we've gotten through this the people don't forget what the elites and politico's did to us by shipping our production capabilities for strategic products out of this country just to make more money by using cheap labor and increasing their profit margins.
The people should hold the politician's feet to the fire and FORCE them to use the government purchasing power to re-establish production within this country of all critical products even beyond health related.
Old Greek
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funny, and yes I agree.
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India to go on lockdown for 21 days to help prevent the spread of the Coronavirus, it applies to all 1,3 billion citizens #India #Coronavirus
mzkitty
I give up.
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and for a bit of history:
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On this day in 1944, 76 Allied prisoners tunnel out of the Stalag Luft III POW camp in Sagan, Germany. All but three are recaptured; 50 will be executed by the Nazis. The story is later immortalized in the film 'The Great Escape.'
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On this day in 1944, 76 Allied prisoners tunnel out of the Stalag Luft III POW camp in Sagan, Germany. All but three are recaptured; 50 will be executed by the Nazis. The story is later immortalized in the film 'The Great Escape.'
TheSearcher
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WTF!!
Newsweek
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What is hantavirus? Man in China tests positive after dying of infection spread by rodents
What is hantavirus? Man in China tests positive after dying of infection spread by rodents
The virus is rarely passed between humans and usually originates from rodent waste.
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I'm not sure of the reason for your surprise?
PanBear
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remember those hungry monkeys from India
now it's the hungry birds from Spain
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#Spain: Birds have run out of food due to the lockdown so they are following people leaving the supermarkets #COVID19 #Covid_19 #coronapocolypse
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now it's the hungry birds from Spain
nonouzi @Gerrrty
#Spain: Birds have run out of food due to the lockdown so they are following people leaving the supermarkets #COVID19 #Covid_19 #coronapocolypse
video 49 sec
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Intestinal Fortitude
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HA!
It sure is an interesting year!
naegling62
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Just got off the phone with my Dr. friend. He said it was going to be apocalyptic in scale in around 7 days. Now this guy is a world renowned Dr. who also worked in his younger years at CDC in Atlanta.
He said it doesn't matter what Trump thinks or is trying to convince the public, at this point he is irrelevant. Statistics are in control not positive attitude, wishing or any other propaganda. He said the window for gathering supplies without getting infected is closing in many states and is past in the obvious ones. He said you absolutely don't want to get sick unless you're on the backside of this event.
He has taken care of his financial matters and is making sure I will help his kids if need be. He is concerned he might not be coming out of this alive.
This man is one of the most serious men alive. You have been warned. It is not the flu. Once your state nears the saturation point you do not want to be in the public. I will not respond to this post. Get ready folks.
He said it doesn't matter what Trump thinks or is trying to convince the public, at this point he is irrelevant. Statistics are in control not positive attitude, wishing or any other propaganda. He said the window for gathering supplies without getting infected is closing in many states and is past in the obvious ones. He said you absolutely don't want to get sick unless you're on the backside of this event.
He has taken care of his financial matters and is making sure I will help his kids if need be. He is concerned he might not be coming out of this alive.
This man is one of the most serious men alive. You have been warned. It is not the flu. Once your state nears the saturation point you do not want to be in the public. I will not respond to this post. Get ready folks.
marsh
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Damn posted on wrong thread, but will let it stand
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Bankrolls Coronavirus Attack Ads Against Trump
Liberal groups spend millions on anti-Trump ads in Midwest
The Democratic Party's leading super PAC will begin hitting President Donald Trump over coronavirus in four battleground states, using millions from liberal billionaire George Soros.
Priorities USA Action—the Democratic Party's largest super PAC—will spend $6 million this week on advertisements criticizing Trump for his response to the coronavirus pandemic. The ads will run in Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. The PAC received $3 million in contributions from Soros's Democracy PAC on Feb. 21, new filings show. Soros's seven-figure donation accounts for 77 percent of the $3.9 million the PAC reported hauling in last month.
Major Democratic donors have flooded battleground states, especially in the Midwest, with cash for anti-Trump campaigns in hopes of appealing to the president's voter base. CNN first reported Monday on Priorities USA's new ads, which are part of a larger plan by deep-pocketed liberal financiers and activist groups to divert large sums of cash into the region. Trump defeated Hillary Clinton in several Midwestern states that she was expected to carry in the 2016 election.
As part of this plan, Priorities USA has said it intends to spend upward of $150 million against Trump in states like Michigan and Wisconsin. The PAC has hauled in $27 million since January 2019. Its largest donor has been billionaire hedge fund manager Donald Sussman, who has given the group $8 million this cycle. Soros is now the group's second-largest donor at $5 million.
The group did not respond to a request for comment.
Priorities is not the only group using the coronavirus pandemic to attack Trump. PACRONYM, a super PAC tied to the nonprofit ACRONYM, which was in charge of the botched Iowa app that caused chaos during the Iowa caucuses, is launching a similar campaign.
PACRONYM announced last Tuesday it will spend $5 million on digital advertising against Trump's response to the pandemic. Tara McGowan, the founder of ACRONYM, said it's imperative that Democratic groups push anti-Trump messaging while Democratic presidential contenders remain positive during the pandemic. Biden, however, slammed Trump on Monday over what he called a "failure of planning and preparation" for the coronavirus.
"This is a public health issue and a national security issue, but it's also a public policy issue and thus a political one," McGowan told the Washington Post.
McGowan's dark money nonprofit, which does not disclose its donors, has received hundreds of thousands of dollars from Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi's PAC. It also received funding from failed presidential contender and billionaire donor Tom Steyer's PAC.
PACRONYM received $250,000 from Soros's Democracy PAC and $1 million from Sussman late last year. Hollywood director Steven Spielberg and wife Kate Capshaw added $1 million.
In addition to Priorities and PACRONYM, liberal operative David Brock's American Bridge PAC has assailed Trump's coronavirus response. American Bridge has also been active in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.
"Our job is to hold Donald Trump accountable, and we have no plans to let up, particularly with a focus on economic issues as we've done to date," Bradley Beychok, the president of American Bridge, said. "But as this crisis unfolds and the country experiences the consequences of his incompetence, we're not going to give him a pass for bungling the government's response to this pandemic."
American Bridge plans to spend $50 million to "weaken" Trump in the Midwest. "We're now set to leverage our expertise to launch the largest persuasion media effort we've ever undertaken with the goal of making Trump a one-term president," Beychok said last year. "Donald Trump turned his back on the voters who gave him a lifeline in 2016. We plan to cut it."
Brock has close ties to the Democracy Alliance, a secretive club of millionaire and billionaire donors that Soros cofounded. The group's internal documents laid out a $275 million spending plan for the 2020 cycle. Brock and his top employees—including Beychok—have appeared at alliance gatherings in recent years.
Soros has also funded another project, called the Heartland Fund, housed at dark money behemoth Arabella Advisors. The fund targets Midwestern voters. Soros was joined by Scott Wallace, who unsuccessfully ran for Congress in Pennsylvania's First Congressional District in 2018, in helping bankroll the effort.
Other efforts by liberal donors to campaign against Trump in the Midwest include at least $60 million from dark money group Future Majority. The group is led by D.C. strategists Matt Tompkins and Mark Riddle, who launched the super PAC backing Biden's candidacy.
Soros Bankrolls Coronavirus Attack Ads Against Trump
The Democratic Party's leading super PAC will begin hitting President Donald Trump over coronavirus in four battleground states using millions from liberal billionaire George Soros.
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Liberal groups spend millions on anti-Trump ads in Midwest
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The Democratic Party's leading super PAC will begin hitting President Donald Trump over coronavirus in four battleground states, using millions from liberal billionaire George Soros.
Priorities USA Action—the Democratic Party's largest super PAC—will spend $6 million this week on advertisements criticizing Trump for his response to the coronavirus pandemic. The ads will run in Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. The PAC received $3 million in contributions from Soros's Democracy PAC on Feb. 21, new filings show. Soros's seven-figure donation accounts for 77 percent of the $3.9 million the PAC reported hauling in last month.
Major Democratic donors have flooded battleground states, especially in the Midwest, with cash for anti-Trump campaigns in hopes of appealing to the president's voter base. CNN first reported Monday on Priorities USA's new ads, which are part of a larger plan by deep-pocketed liberal financiers and activist groups to divert large sums of cash into the region. Trump defeated Hillary Clinton in several Midwestern states that she was expected to carry in the 2016 election.
As part of this plan, Priorities USA has said it intends to spend upward of $150 million against Trump in states like Michigan and Wisconsin. The PAC has hauled in $27 million since January 2019. Its largest donor has been billionaire hedge fund manager Donald Sussman, who has given the group $8 million this cycle. Soros is now the group's second-largest donor at $5 million.
The group did not respond to a request for comment.
Priorities is not the only group using the coronavirus pandemic to attack Trump. PACRONYM, a super PAC tied to the nonprofit ACRONYM, which was in charge of the botched Iowa app that caused chaos during the Iowa caucuses, is launching a similar campaign.
PACRONYM announced last Tuesday it will spend $5 million on digital advertising against Trump's response to the pandemic. Tara McGowan, the founder of ACRONYM, said it's imperative that Democratic groups push anti-Trump messaging while Democratic presidential contenders remain positive during the pandemic. Biden, however, slammed Trump on Monday over what he called a "failure of planning and preparation" for the coronavirus.
"This is a public health issue and a national security issue, but it's also a public policy issue and thus a political one," McGowan told the Washington Post.
McGowan's dark money nonprofit, which does not disclose its donors, has received hundreds of thousands of dollars from Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi's PAC. It also received funding from failed presidential contender and billionaire donor Tom Steyer's PAC.
PACRONYM received $250,000 from Soros's Democracy PAC and $1 million from Sussman late last year. Hollywood director Steven Spielberg and wife Kate Capshaw added $1 million.
In addition to Priorities and PACRONYM, liberal operative David Brock's American Bridge PAC has assailed Trump's coronavirus response. American Bridge has also been active in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.
"Our job is to hold Donald Trump accountable, and we have no plans to let up, particularly with a focus on economic issues as we've done to date," Bradley Beychok, the president of American Bridge, said. "But as this crisis unfolds and the country experiences the consequences of his incompetence, we're not going to give him a pass for bungling the government's response to this pandemic."
American Bridge plans to spend $50 million to "weaken" Trump in the Midwest. "We're now set to leverage our expertise to launch the largest persuasion media effort we've ever undertaken with the goal of making Trump a one-term president," Beychok said last year. "Donald Trump turned his back on the voters who gave him a lifeline in 2016. We plan to cut it."
Brock has close ties to the Democracy Alliance, a secretive club of millionaire and billionaire donors that Soros cofounded. The group's internal documents laid out a $275 million spending plan for the 2020 cycle. Brock and his top employees—including Beychok—have appeared at alliance gatherings in recent years.
Soros has also funded another project, called the Heartland Fund, housed at dark money behemoth Arabella Advisors. The fund targets Midwestern voters. Soros was joined by Scott Wallace, who unsuccessfully ran for Congress in Pennsylvania's First Congressional District in 2018, in helping bankroll the effort.
Other efforts by liberal donors to campaign against Trump in the Midwest include at least $60 million from dark money group Future Majority. The group is led by D.C. strategists Matt Tompkins and Mark Riddle, who launched the super PAC backing Biden's candidacy.
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Magnitude 7.8 quake strikes off Russia's Kuril Islands - USGS
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