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Craftypatches
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I’m thinking Pieface Pelosi and her gang of Dems are not going to give! Trump is worried and doesn’t know what else he can do! It will backfire either way! The Dems only want Trump To fail! They are succeeding!!!
Jubilee on Earth
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Apologies if this is a dupe:
Amazon temporarily closes Kentucky warehouse due to virus
FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) - Amazon has temporarily closed a Kentucky warehouse after an unspecified number of workers tested positive for the coronavirus.
The online retailer said Tuesday that the Shepherdsville warehouse was undergoing “additional sanitization.”
“We are supporting the individuals who are now in quarantine and recovering,” the company said in a statement. “We are following all guidelines from local officials and are taking extreme measures to ensure the safety of employees at our site.”
Amazon temporarily closes Kentucky warehouse due to virus
FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) - Amazon has temporarily closed a Kentucky warehouse after an unspecified number of workers tested positive for the coronavirus.
The online retailer said Tuesday that the Shepherdsville warehouse was undergoing “additional sanitization.”
“We are supporting the individuals who are now in quarantine and recovering,” the company said in a statement. “We are following all guidelines from local officials and are taking extreme measures to ensure the safety of employees at our site.”
I hate to kick the mule, darn animal looks deceased, but here it goes.
Experts know the new coronavirus is not a bioweapon. They disagree on whether it could have leaked from a research lab
Some researchers think a laboratory accident could have released the viral ancestor of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.thebulletin.org
Much remains uncertain about the new coronavirus. What treatments will prove effective against COVID-19? When will a vaccine for the disease be ready? What level of social distancing will be required to tame the outbreak, and how long will it need to last? Will outbreaks come in waves? Amid all these vital forward-looking questions remains a more retrospective but still important one: Where did SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, come from in the first place? Experts seem to agree it wasn’t the product of human engineering. Much research has been focused on the hypothesis that bats passed a virus to some intermediate host—perhaps pangolins, scaly ant-eating mammals—which subsequently passed it to humans. But the pangolin theory has not been conclusively proven. Some experts wonder whether a virus under study at a lab could have been accidentally released, something that’s happened in the past.
Among the latest entrants to the debate about the provenance of SARS-CoV-2 are the authors of a March 17 Nature Medicine piece that takes a look at the virus’s characteristics—including the sites on the virus that allow it to bind to human cells. They looked at whether the virus was engineered by humans and present what appears to be convincing evidence it was not. They also considered the possibility that the outbreak could have resulted from an inadvertent lab release of a virus under study but concluded “we do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible.”
Not all experts agree.
Professor Richard Ebright of Rutgers University’s Waksman Institute of Microbiology, a biosecurity expert who has been speaking out on lab safety since the early 2000s, does agree with the Nature Medicine authors’ argument that the new coronavirus wasn’t purposefully manipulated by humans, calling their arguments on this score strong. Ebright helped The Washington Post debunk a claim that the COVID-19 outbreak can somehow be tied to bioweapons activity, a conspiracy theory that’s been promoted or endorsed by the likes of US Sen. Tom Cotton, Iran’s supreme leader, a high-ranking Chinese government official, and others.
But Ebright thinks that it is possible the COVID-19 pandemic started as an accidental release from a laboratory such as one of the two in Wuhan that are known to have been studying bat coronaviruses.
Except for SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV, two deadly viruses that have caused outbreaks in the past, coronaviruses have been studied at laboratories that are labelled as operating at a moderate biosafety level known as BSL-2, Ebright says. And, he says, bat coronaviruses have been studied at such labs in and around Wuhan, China, where the new coronavirus first emerged. “As a result,” Ebright says, “bat coronaviruses at Wuhan [Center for Disease Control] and Wuhan Institute of Virology routinely were collected and studied at BSL-2, which provides only minimal protections against infection of lab workers.”
Higher safety-level labs would be appropriate for a virus with the characteristics of the new coronavirus causing the current pandemic. “Virus collection, culture, isolation, or animal infection at BSL-2 with a virus having the transmission characteristics of the outbreak virus would pose substantial risk of infection of a lab worker, and from the lab worker, the public,” Ebright says.
Ebright points out that scientists in Wuhan have collected and publicized a bat coronavirus called RaTG13, one that is 96 percent genetically similar to SARS-CoV-2. The Nature Medicine authors are arguing “against the hypothesis that the published, lab-collected, lab-stored bat coronavirus RaTG13 could be a proximal progenitor of the outbreak virus.” But, Ebright says, the authors relied on assumptions about when the viral ancestor of SARS-CoV-2 jumped to humans; how fast it evolved before that; how fast it evolved as it adapted to humans; and the possibility that that the virus may have mutated in cell cultures or experimental animals inside a lab.
The Nature Medicine authors “leave us where we were before: with a basis to rule out [a coronavirus that is] a lab construct, but no basis to rule out a lab accident,” Ebright says.
Yanzhong Huang, a senior fellow for Global Health at the Council on Foreign Relations, recently wrote an article for Foreign Affairs that is dismissive of conspiracy theories about the origins of the pandemic but also mentions circumstantial evidence that supports the possibility that a lab release was involved. That evidence includes a study “conducted by the South China University of Technology, [that] concluded that the coronavirus ‘probably’ originated in the Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Prevention,” located just 280 meters from the Hunan Seafood Market often cited as the source of the original outbreak.
“The paper was later removed from ResearchGate, a commercial social-networking site for scientists and researchers to share papers,” Huang wrote. “Thus far, no scientists have confirmed or refuted the paper’s findings.”
While vaccines, treatments, and social distancing strategies are critical to fighting the COVID-19 pandemic, figuring out where this new coronavirus originated is, too. “It is reasonable to wonder why the origins of the pandemic matter,” the Nature Medicine authors write. “Detailed understanding of how an animal virus jumped species boundaries to infect humans so productively will help in the prevention of future [animal to people transfer] events. For example, if SARS-CoV-2 pre-adapted in another animal species, then there is the risk of future re-emergence events. In contrast, if the adaptive process occurred in humans, then even if repeated zoonotic transfers occur, they are unlikely to take off without the same series of mutations.”
Kristian Andersen, the lead author of the Nature Medicine piece, did not respond to a request for comment on the article, and W. Ian Lipkin, another of the authors, declined to answer any questions about it. Thomas Gallagher, a virus expert and professor at Loyola University of Chicago, seconded the authors in dismissing the idea that the pandemic could have lab roots. “The authors of the new letter in Nature Medicine are arguing that the SARS-CoV-2 originated in animals, not in a research laboratory,” Gallagher says. “I agree completely with the authors’ statement.”
“Suggesting that SARS-CoV-2 is a purposely manipulated laboratory virus or a product of an accidental laboratory release would be utterly defenseless, truly unhelpful, and extremely inappropriate,” Gallagher says.
Still, lab safety has been a problem in China. “A safety breach at a Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention lab is believed to have caused four suspected SARS cases, including one death, in Beijing in 2004. A similar accident caused 65 lab workers of Lanzhou Veterinary Research Institute to be infected with brucellosis in December 2019,” Huang wrote. “In January 2020, a renowned Chinese scientist, Li Ning, was sentenced to 12 years in prison for selling experimental animals to local markets.
And China is hardly the only place to experience such accidents. A USA Todayinvestigation in 2016, for instance, revealed an incident involving cascading equipment failures in a decontamination chamber as US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention researchers tried to leave a biosafety level 4 lab that likely stored samples of the viruses causing Ebola and smallpox. In 2014, the agency revealed that staff had accidently sent live anthrax between laboratories, exposing 84 workers. In an investigation, officials found other mishaps that had occurred in the preceding decade.
Whether a lab accident could have led to the COVID-19 outbreak remains unclear, but making that determination is worthwhile, Ebright says: “Understanding the origin of the outbreak is a crucial step to reduce the risk of future outbreaks.”
The ‘experts’ very early on with most of the outbreak still in Asia determined that the virus was ‘definitely’ not man made and most also determined that this was nothing to worry about just like the flu.
Of course the official medical community of experts was basing their information off the official information reported from China and the official reports from WHO and then repeated at CDC.
The this is something big through Jan and Feb was only us fringe people following unofficial information leaking out of China through Wee Chat, Youtube, and fringe websites.
The WHO seemed to have spent the first 2 months keeping China happy mimicking official talking points from CCP.
It was easy for the experts to dismiss the ravings from us lunatics easily chuckling at the world pandemic talk from people who believe in Chemtrails, US govt bringing down Trade Center, and aliens.
We know things we have letters next to our names and have knowledgable friends at WHO and CDC. These are the experts the media references, many who were wrong early and often but the original report is just kept alive as fact.
Now I ask with the technological ability to mix and match DNA, how can experts without access yet to the actual DNA determine if a DNA is change is a natural occurring mutation or a man made mutation? It would probably help if these expert scientists were there on the ground early in Wuhan. I do not believe any western researchers were allowed until WHO was led around on official tour by CCP. The same WHO suckling at the CCP information department for 2 months.
I assert unless we have secret intelligence confirming this came from the lab from Chinese sources, that some academic sitting as Chair of bio department of the University of Who cares has any proof either way.
The easiest explanation is a release from bio weapons lab and my accepting a natural occurrence would require more research and analysis than I have seen to date, from an independent source without ties or funding from any Chinese source.
pinkelsteinsmom
Veteran Member
If this thing is doubling every day, doesn't that indicate the actual RO of 7? I saw yesterday the kill rate is pegged at 14%, that was what we assumed in Wuhan.
homepark
Resist
Cuomo looks Presidential in his tv appearances. Trump does not. Unless Trump can pull off a miracle between now and the election, he will lose unless the Dems persist in running their idiots. Trump is building his own meme of fiddling to Wall Street while the country withers. Dead men do not push up the economy.
New Yorkers can be a little myopic, thinking NY is the center and be all of the known universe.
Another New Yorker Andrew Ross Sorkin in his panic early last week walked right up to the edge in an interview that shouldn’t we be shipping all the ventilators to the area’s most impacted. Between the lines shouldn’t the US feds ship all the ventilators from fly over country to LA and NY cause after all that is where all the really important people are???
Of course all the important people are in media and entertainment, that until we and they with the lockdown learned how unimportant they are when TSHTF.
Macgyver
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I have a friend who works for amazon. It sounds like they are at least trying.
Employees can't go dear each other. He watched one of their roaming safety people writing up 2 workers.
There cleaning everything in the buildings constantly. Workstations are getting scrubbed after each shift etc.
FXHedge @Fxhedgers 4m4 minutes ago
ITALY DEATH TOLL FROM CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK RISES BY 743 TO 6,820 -OFFICIAL
ITALY DEATH TOLL FROM CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK RISES BY 743 TO 6,820 -OFFICIAL
FXHedge @Fxhedgers 4m4 minutes ago
TOTAL NUMBER OF CONFIRMED CASES OF CORONAVIRUS IN ITALY RISES TO 69,176 FROM 63,927 ON MONDAY - OFFICIAL
TOTAL NUMBER OF CONFIRMED CASES OF CORONAVIRUS IN ITALY RISES TO 69,176 FROM 63,927 ON MONDAY - OFFICIAL
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
Cuomo wants 30000 vents, but they don't even have that many cases yet, let alone all of them needing vents. Yes, damn self-centered of him.
mzkitty
I give up.
Oh, you're misinterpreting all that. They were just bored and wanted to get out of the house and take a little trip.
Tom McDowell
BAMN
New Yorkers Flood Florida – Governor DeSantis Writes Executive Order Requiring 14 Day Self-Quarantine…
Posted on March 23, 2020by sundance
Approximately 20,000 to 40,000 New Yorkers are currently arriving in Florida daily as they flee from the epicenter of the most explosive coronavirus outbreak. However, if the elderly are the most vulnerable; and if isolating the most vulnerable population is the best course of action; and with the largest population of older residents living in Florida; then why are New Yorkers allowed to travel to Florida?
According to data released by Governor DeSantis: Monday saw 190 direct flights from the New York City area into various Florida airports. If 150-200 people average per flight, that’s 28,500 to 38,000 New York metropolitan area residents arriving in Florida today.
In an attempt to mitigate the inbound infection spread, today Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signed an executive order requiring all arriving New York and New Jersey residents to be screened upon arrival and self-quarantine immediately after arriving in the state. Not sure how policing compliance is possible.
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Posted on March 23, 2020by sundance
Approximately 20,000 to 40,000 New Yorkers are currently arriving in Florida daily as they flee from the epicenter of the most explosive coronavirus outbreak. However, if the elderly are the most vulnerable; and if isolating the most vulnerable population is the best course of action; and with the largest population of older residents living in Florida; then why are New Yorkers allowed to travel to Florida?
According to data released by Governor DeSantis: Monday saw 190 direct flights from the New York City area into various Florida airports. If 150-200 people average per flight, that’s 28,500 to 38,000 New York metropolitan area residents arriving in Florida today.
In an attempt to mitigate the inbound infection spread, today Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signed an executive order requiring all arriving New York and New Jersey residents to be screened upon arrival and self-quarantine immediately after arriving in the state. Not sure how policing compliance is possible.
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Statistical projections indicate that in the next few weeks they will have 140000 cases. 25% will need to be vented. That 35000 people. He's trying to protect his people rather than telling them to get back to work. WHO just said the US is the next hot spot. Our deaths will far out run China's.
Faulty figuring. You're ignoring the fact that nearly all cases of the virus occurred in Hubei Province (Wuhan). China pretty well contained it there. It is incorrect to compare that number to the whole country's flu season. This new study shows the virus killed about 1.4% of those infected in Wuhan.
Death rate in China’s coronavirus epicenter is lower than previously thought, study says
It's one heartening data point for a world on edge.
DazedandConfused
Veteran Member
With a black eye ! hummmm Q
The Hammer
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He sounds like a Mafia dude to me. I can imagine him saying "I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy..."
He also reminds me too much of his brother Fredo, so that doesn't help.
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
Unless the analysis is wrong. And it might be.
Regardless, Cuomo asking for 30000 vents when there are two other big hot spots, it's hysterical at the moment. He's being provided what can be provided, given that the state of New York is not the only place needing them. Implying the shipment is somehow being starved is paranoid on his part at best, intentionally dishonest at worst.
Altura Ct.
Veteran Member
Man in China Tests Positive After Dying of Hantavirus That Is Spread by Rodents And Has Fatality Rate Of 36%
The emergence of a severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) illustrates that coronaviruses (CoVs) may quiescently emerge from possible animal reservoirs and can cause potentially fatal disease in humans, as previously recognized for animals.
In China a virus transmitted from rats re-emerged, it’s not confirmed if this is a new strain of the virus.
A man from China’s Yunnan province tested positive for Hantavirus on Monday. He died while on his way back to Shandong Province for work on a chartered bus, China’s state-run Global Times reported. 32 other people have been tested, the report added.
Social media is in panic following his unexplainable death. People fear it is another COVID-19 ready to cause new global chaos.
Of course, there is no reason to panic is what we gonna hear from the mainstream media but when it comes to China and the WHO who handled Wuhan Coronavirus, everything is possible.
But below we have a little reminder of what China and WHO said when the COVID 19 pandemic was at the beginning.
United States’ National Center for Biotechnology Information (NCBI) in a journal writes that currently, the hantavirus genus includes more than 21 species.
HPS can’t be passed on from person to person, it can be contracted if someone touches their eyes, nose or mouth after touching rodent droppings, urine, or nesting materials, states Centers for Disease Control and Prevention fact sheet.
But these reports are not true.
Person to person transmission of the virus might be unlikely but a strain of the virus has passed from person to person.
From CDC:
The exception to this is an outbreak of HPS in Argentina in 1996. Evidence from this outbreak suggests that strains of hantaviruses in South America may be transmissable from person to person.
In Chile and Argentina, rare cases of person-to-person transmission have occurred among close contacts of a person who is ill with a type of hantavirus called Andes virus.
Each strain of hantavirus is linked with a host species of rodent, the agency explained. Hantaviruses are passed on in what is known as airborne transmission, when virus particles from the animal’s urine, feces, and saliva travel in the air and infect an individual. In rare cases, a person may catch hantavirus if they are bitten by an infected animal. It is possible to catch the virus if a person touches their mouth or nose after handling a surface contaminated with the urine, droppings or saliva of a host, as well as eating contaminated food, experts believe.
The clinical syndrome of HPS or hantavirus cardiopulmonary syndrome was first recognized in 1993 and has since been identified throughout the United States. Although rare, Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome (HPS) is frequently fatal, with a case fatality rate of 36%.
“Hantaviruses in the Americas are known as “New World” hantaviruses and may cause hantavirus pulmonary syndrome (HPS). Other hantaviruses, known as “Old World” hantaviruses, are found mostly in Europe and Asia and may cause hemorrhagic fever with renal syndrome (HFRS),” the CDC website said.
The symptoms of potentially deadly HPS include fatigue, fever and muscle aches—particularly in the thighs, back, hips, and less often the shoulders. A person may also feel dizzy, have a headache, chills, as well as vomit, and experience diarrhea and stomach pain. Between four to 10 days after the first phase, a person can develop shortness of breath, a cough, and their lungs may fill with fluid. One patient told the CDC having HPS felt like a “tight band around my chest and a pillow over my face.”
Is this a new pandemic experts say no but China’s secret could hurt us again.
President Donald Trump emphatically blamed China for the coronavirus pandemic Thursday, and again made a point of using the term “Chinese virus.”
“The world is paying a very big price for that they did,” Trump said, referring to his claim that Chinese officials did not fully share information sooner about the coronavirus outbreak after it began in China.
“It could have been stopped right where it came from, China,” Trump said at a White House news conference.
He argued that American officials would have been able to act faster if China’s government had fully shared information about the outbreak, which began around the city of Wuhan.
“It would have been much better if we had known about this a number of months earlier,” the president said.
Please share this article wherever you can. It is the only way we can work around their censorship and ensure people receive news about issues that the mainstream media suppress.
https://www.rightjournalism.com/man-in-china-tests-positive-after-dying-of-hantavirus-that-is-spread-by-rodents-and-has-fatality-rate-of-36/
The emergence of a severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) illustrates that coronaviruses (CoVs) may quiescently emerge from possible animal reservoirs and can cause potentially fatal disease in humans, as previously recognized for animals.
In China a virus transmitted from rats re-emerged, it’s not confirmed if this is a new strain of the virus.
A man from China’s Yunnan province tested positive for Hantavirus on Monday. He died while on his way back to Shandong Province for work on a chartered bus, China’s state-run Global Times reported. 32 other people have been tested, the report added.
Social media is in panic following his unexplainable death. People fear it is another COVID-19 ready to cause new global chaos.
Of course, there is no reason to panic is what we gonna hear from the mainstream media but when it comes to China and the WHO who handled Wuhan Coronavirus, everything is possible.
But below we have a little reminder of what China and WHO said when the COVID 19 pandemic was at the beginning.
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United States’ National Center for Biotechnology Information (NCBI) in a journal writes that currently, the hantavirus genus includes more than 21 species.
HPS can’t be passed on from person to person, it can be contracted if someone touches their eyes, nose or mouth after touching rodent droppings, urine, or nesting materials, states Centers for Disease Control and Prevention fact sheet.
But these reports are not true.
Person to person transmission of the virus might be unlikely but a strain of the virus has passed from person to person.
From CDC:
The exception to this is an outbreak of HPS in Argentina in 1996. Evidence from this outbreak suggests that strains of hantaviruses in South America may be transmissable from person to person.
In Chile and Argentina, rare cases of person-to-person transmission have occurred among close contacts of a person who is ill with a type of hantavirus called Andes virus.
Each strain of hantavirus is linked with a host species of rodent, the agency explained. Hantaviruses are passed on in what is known as airborne transmission, when virus particles from the animal’s urine, feces, and saliva travel in the air and infect an individual. In rare cases, a person may catch hantavirus if they are bitten by an infected animal. It is possible to catch the virus if a person touches their mouth or nose after handling a surface contaminated with the urine, droppings or saliva of a host, as well as eating contaminated food, experts believe.
The clinical syndrome of HPS or hantavirus cardiopulmonary syndrome was first recognized in 1993 and has since been identified throughout the United States. Although rare, Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome (HPS) is frequently fatal, with a case fatality rate of 36%.
“Hantaviruses in the Americas are known as “New World” hantaviruses and may cause hantavirus pulmonary syndrome (HPS). Other hantaviruses, known as “Old World” hantaviruses, are found mostly in Europe and Asia and may cause hemorrhagic fever with renal syndrome (HFRS),” the CDC website said.
The symptoms of potentially deadly HPS include fatigue, fever and muscle aches—particularly in the thighs, back, hips, and less often the shoulders. A person may also feel dizzy, have a headache, chills, as well as vomit, and experience diarrhea and stomach pain. Between four to 10 days after the first phase, a person can develop shortness of breath, a cough, and their lungs may fill with fluid. One patient told the CDC having HPS felt like a “tight band around my chest and a pillow over my face.”
Is this a new pandemic experts say no but China’s secret could hurt us again.
President Donald Trump emphatically blamed China for the coronavirus pandemic Thursday, and again made a point of using the term “Chinese virus.”
“The world is paying a very big price for that they did,” Trump said, referring to his claim that Chinese officials did not fully share information sooner about the coronavirus outbreak after it began in China.
“It could have been stopped right where it came from, China,” Trump said at a White House news conference.
He argued that American officials would have been able to act faster if China’s government had fully shared information about the outbreak, which began around the city of Wuhan.
“It would have been much better if we had known about this a number of months earlier,” the president said.
Please share this article wherever you can. It is the only way we can work around their censorship and ensure people receive news about issues that the mainstream media suppress.
https://www.rightjournalism.com/man-in-china-tests-positive-after-dying-of-hantavirus-that-is-spread-by-rodents-and-has-fatality-rate-of-36/
Bubble Head
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Still is. We had a death a couple of years back.
Yeah, he said they needed them now and when they are done with them they will ship them to the next hot spot. If they are needed for 20 days or so for each patient, by the time NY is done with them, they are sterilized and shipped, the next hot spot has burned to the ground with NY having all the resources. Coumo is primping to be president and he's very, very annoying.
Heard on the news yesterday that we are nearing 50,000 deaths from the flu this season and it is still active in some areas. Compare that to the number of deaths from this virus so far. And yet there were no shutdowns for the flu except for a few short closings for some schools.
mzkitty
I give up.
He sounds like a Mafia dude to me. I can imagine him saying "I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy..."
He also reminds me too much of his brother Fredo, so that doesn't help.
And relatives in Jersey.
For those who need another doom fix, go to the USA flu map and check your state. Weekly US Map: Influenza Summary Update
Look for the ILI (Influenza like Illnesses) not just influenza numbers. It looks like each state has different graphs and ways of reporting, so look around the site until you find the ILI.
Look for the ILI (Influenza like Illnesses) not just influenza numbers. It looks like each state has different graphs and ways of reporting, so look around the site until you find the ILI.
Love the bunny picture! I luvs bunnies.
Trivium Pursuit
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On March 7th, the American Hospital Association gave a presentation in which they estimated that during the 2 highest months of this Corona virus, there would be 480,000 deaths in the United States. We've had an awful lot of posts here so maybe you missed it I'm going to attach the slide. 480,000 over 2 months,
versus 50,000 flu deaths over a year. We will probably see this by the end of July if not earlier.
This is not good news. This is a significant jump again.
He's either fearmongering or just not good at math. Look at the stats yourself. Yes, they are testing more and will therefore find a lot more cases but the vast majority of those will be mild. Nowhere near 25% of new cases will need vents. Vents are needed for the critically ill only. This chart is updated throughout the day and shows only 4% of cases are serious or critical. There is no reason to assume those stats will change much unless he either lying or ill informed or grandstanding.
Coronavirus Update (Live): 118,378,005 Cases and 2,625,879 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer
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TP -- Looking over these stats they appear to be conservative. The R0 appears to be way higher than 2.5 since doubling is happening in less than 3 days. In some cases venting is needed in 25% of hospitalizations. This could be quite the ride when it gets here.
adgal
Veteran Member
Okay - let's only use Hubei province. Between 2010 and 2015, Hubei province averaged 15,000 deaths per year due to influenza. Same argument I made before - why such drastic measures for only 3,000?Faulty figuring. You're ignoring the fact that nearly all cases of the virus occurred in Hubei Province (Wuhan). China pretty well contained it there. It is incorrect to compare that number to the whole country's flu season. This new study shows the virus killed about 1.4% of those infected in Wuhan.
Death rate in China’s coronavirus epicenter is lower than previously thought, study says
It's one heartening data point for a world on edge.fortune.com
"Age-specific influenza-associated excess respiratory mortality rates per 100 000 person-seasons for all influenza in mainland China between the 2010–11 through 2014–15 seasons "
Not really. 500 or so over yesterday but still lower than the 3 previous days. We see this at peaks of this virus. I think it has topped out and will resume its decline there.
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
What about the 21 million people who no longer have a cell phone? That would indicate a larger number than China is willing to admit.Faulty figuring. You're ignoring the fact that nearly all cases of the virus occurred in Hubei Province (Wuhan). China pretty well contained it there. It is incorrect to compare that number to the whole country's flu season. This new study shows the virus killed about 1.4% of those infected in Wuhan.
Death rate in China’s coronavirus epicenter is lower than previously thought, study says
It's one heartening data point for a world on edge.