Pinecone,
I saw the Iranian strain of coronavirus is a "Morphed" version of the one in Wuhan.
Per a CNBC newsperson. The Iran's strain is a little different.
Can you imagine under a rationed socialist medicare for all what the numbers could look like?
A Chinese national with coronavirus is facing up to six months in jail in Singapore after being charged with allegedly giving false information about his whereabouts in the city, according to a Reuters report.
Singapore’s health ministry said it had charged the 38-year-old man from Wuhan, the Chinese city where the virus first surfaced late last year, and his wife who resides in Singapore for allegedly providing false information to authorities about their movements.
The husband had been confirmed to be infected with the virus in late January, and has since recovered, while his wife had been quarantined due to her close contact with him.
The health ministry said “detailed investigations” had established their true movements and they were charged “in view of the potentially serious repercussions of the false information...and the risk they could have posed to public health”.
Charges under the Infectious Diseases Act are rare and this is the first case during the coronavirus outbreak in Singapore. First time offenders under the Act can be fined up to S$10,000 ($7,147) or imprisoned for six months, or both.
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Smoke has been used for thousands of years to inhibit germ growth on animal flesh and preserve it. RIGHT?? If smoke inhibits germ growth there what makes anyone think it would not inhibit virus/bacterial growth in smokers lungs?Prevalence of tobacco use - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
This is a list of countries by annual per capita consumption of tobacco cigarettes. Cigarettes are smoked by over 1 billion people, which is nearly 20% of the world's population in 2014. About 800 million of these smokers are men.
While smoking rates have leveled off or declined in developed nations, especially among men, in developing nations tobacco consumption continues to rise. More than 80% of all smokers now live in countries with low or middle incomes, and 60% in just 10 countries, a list headed by China.[1] China is the world's most populated country, and is also the leading country in the cigarette industry. In 2014, China produced and consumed more than 30% of the cigarettes in the world. There is a strong relationship between socioeconomic status (SES) and smoking behaviors. According to research, developing countries have the highest rate of tobacco use. “China was found to be one of the countries with the highest male-to-female ratio of smoking prevalence”: 74% of males and 8% of females were smokers.[2] Over half of adult males in Indonesia are smokers (57%, but mostly kretek, a local form of cigarette) and China (53% estimated), and nearly half in Bangladesh, though for women the figure is much lower.[3]
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It appears that smoking adds to the instance of where the infected are more likely to become more ill especially in China.... Living conditions also impact infections....
This will extrapolate across the world in countries with high rates of smoking such as Italy, N & S Korea, Japan and Iran.... American consumption of cigarettes is fairly low compared to other countries....
Deaths appear to be related to the elderly and those that have compromised health....
If you are not elderly or have compromised health or smoke cigs, you chances of surviving the virus is high especially if you isolate from the general public and do not go out....
Just my thoughts....
Texican....
ANYONE KNOW WHERE I can get LARGE boxes of powdered milk anymore?
Has anyone suggested that this test may be functioning like a TB TEST. Once you test positive you THEREAFTER ALWAYS TEST POSITIVE FOR TB, even if you no longer have active TB.14% of Recovered Covid-19 Patients in Guangdong Tested Positive Again
By Li Liuqian, Huang Shulun and Han Wei
Guangdong health authority found 14% of recovered coronavirus patients tested positive again in later check-ups. Photo: Bloomberg
About 14% of patients who recovered from the novel coronavirus and were discharged from hospitals in southern China’s Guangdong province were tested positive again in later check-ups, according to the local health authority. A positive test suggests the recovered patients may still carry the virus, adding complexity to efforts to control the outbreak.
There is no clear conclusion on why it happens and whether such patients could still be infectious, said Song Tie, deputy director of the Guangdong Center of Disease Control And Prevention (Guangdong CDC), at a Tuesday briefing.
According to the preliminary assessment, experts believed the patients are still recovering from lung infections and have yet to be fully healthy, according to Song.
According to the latest treatment guidelines for the Covid-19 issued by the National Health Commission, patients can be considered recovered and released from hospital when their throat or nose swabs show up negative in two consecutive tests, with a CT scan indicating no lung lesions, and when they have no obvious symptoms such as fever.
The guidelines suggest recovered patients should monitor their health and limit outdoor activities for two weeks after leaving the hospital, and check in for retesting in following weeks.
Some patients’ test results returned to positive in the follow-up checks, said Li Yueping, director of the intensive care unit at Guangzhou No.8 People's Hospital at the briefing.
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Caixin’s coverage of the new coronavirus
The No.8 People's Hospital has found 13 discharged patients that tested positive again, although none showed renewed symptoms, according to Li. Nucleic acid tests for 104 close contacts of the patients all found negative results, said Li.
Cai Weiping, director of the Infectious Diseases Division of the No.8 People's Hospital, told Caixin that the positive results in the recovered patients were all found from anal swabs, a method rarely used in other parts of the country. Their results were in the “weak positive” range, said Cai.
The national treatment guideline only requires tests from throat or nose swabs for suspected patients as the virus is believed to spread mainly via respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes. But research by Guangzhou Medical University found the virus in fecal samples, suggesting a new path of transmission. Some hospitals in Guangdong have since adopted the anal swab in virus tests.
Cai said it is still unclear whether the virus detected in the recovered patients is still active. There is also the possibility of a discrepancy in samples, he said.
Song at Guangdong CDC said the province is preparing to put those recovered patients who re-tested positive under concentrated observation. Health authorities will also step up monitoring of discharged patients and their condition as they recover, said Song.
By the end of Monday, Guangdong reported 1,347 infections and 805 recoveries. The death toll reached seven, official data showed.
Similar cases of recovered patients testing positive have been reported elsewhere in China.
Last week, a patient initially discharged after recovering in southwestern Sichuan province’s Chengdu city was readmitted after testing positive again in later check-ups.
Health authorities in the southern island province of Hainan also confirmed that some recovered patients had tested positive again. The authorities required discharged patients to stay home under quarantine for 14 days, and allowed them to be released after both throat and anal swab tests showed negative.
Contact reporter Han Wei (weihan@caixin.com)
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14% of Recovered Covid-19 Patients in Guangdong Tested Positive Again - Unclear whether recovered patients who test positive remain infectious; none showed renewed symptoms, and none of their contacts tested positive for the viruswww.caixinglobal.com
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Iran...
Eat with right hand, wipe with left hand.
No soap.
ma
Why? Please justify your response with facts.
Knowing what many, if not most people here know about CS, asking us to put LIFE OR DEATH FAITH in "some guy on a forum who said don't use it orally or vaporized" is just not going to cut it HERE. Back up your opinion with legitimate
documentation from scientific sources.
OTHERWISE your opinion is worthless and could influence someone to the detriment of their chance of surviving this CORONA VIRUS!
Or... you always carry the Virus, and can activate again, and again. And could be more deadly with the next re-activation. Many Viruses can, and do, re-activate. Could be a killer, that attacks anytime. And, when re-activates, makes you a spreader again. Or you could always will be a spreader!Has anyone suggested that this test may be functioning like a TB TEST. Once you test positive you THEREAFTER ALWAYS TEST POSITIVE FOR TB, even if you no longer have active TB.
“I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue”GoshDarnIt!!!
I wish I still had some connections to get a quarter of weed!
This is getting real!
So we can expect a bunch of people who flew from Israel, into LA, with this attendant, to start showing symptom's any day now? In the meantime, they are actively spreading around LA, and parts of the SW, being asymptomatic.More
Korean flight attendant who was in Israel, LA tests positive for coronavirus
Diagnosis adds weight to possibility that group of South Korean tourists may already have been infected when they were in Israelwww.timesofisrael.com
Korean flight attendant who was in Israel, LA tests positive for coronavirus
Diagnosis adds weight to possibility that group of South Korean tourists may already have been infected when they were in Israel
By TOI staff
25 February 2020, 4:45 pm
A Korean Air flight attendant who recently visited Israel and the United States has tested positive for COVID-19, South Korean media reported Tuesday.
The cabin crew member flew to Ben Gurion Airport aboard the flight that brought some 200 South Korean pilgrims to Israel, many of whom were later confirmed to have the virus.
The flight attendant’s diagnosis adds weight to the possibility the group may already have been infected when they were in Israel, although the incidents could be separate.
After leaving Israel on February 16, the flight attendant then flew to Los Angeles and back to Seoul’s Incheon Airport on February 21, before being diagnosed with the coronavirus and entering quarantine, according to the wow.co.kr news website.
Korean Air announced that a member of its flight crew had tested positive for the virus, but did not give any further details on the employee’s travel itinerary, Reuters reported.
South Korea announced Tuesday it had 977 cases of coronavirus and 11 deaths — the largest official national total outside China.
The Foreign Ministry on Sunday urged Israelis not to visit Japan and South Korea over fears of exposure to the COVID-19 virus, also recommending that Israelis currently in South Korea consider leaving the country.
South Korean visitors left Israel en masse on Sunday amid coronavirus concerns after the number of cases mounted in their home country and a day after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered that all South Koreans in Israel be quickly flown out of the country.
On Saturday the Health Ministry said the group of South Korean pilgrims recently in Israel had tested positive for the coronavirus, sending hundreds of Israelis who were in proximity to the travelers into home quarantine. Some 200 Israeli students and teachers were instructed to enter isolation due to being in several tourist sites at the same time as the group.
The South Korean tourists were diagnosed upon returning home. According to Seoul, 29 of the tourists tested positive for the virus.
The Israel Airport Authority (IAA) said in a statement Monday morning that 622 Korean nationals had left the country since Sunday night, and that between 800 and 900 still remained in the country.
Many have arrived at Ben Gurion Airport, where they were forced to spend the night after they were rejected by hotels and by residents of a settlement near Jerusalem where they were supposed to be quarantined on an adjacent army base.
Israel has banned all foreign nationals who have been to South Korea and Japan in the past 14 days from entering the country. Israel is also denying entry to visitors from China, Hong Kong, Macau, Thailand and Singapore, and is apparently the only country to have taken such drastic steps so far to contain the virus.
Israeli citizens returning from South Korea and Japan or who were there in the last 14 days must quarantine themselves at home for two weeks upon their return, the ministry said.
Israel on Monday issued a travel advisory for Italy, due to a surge of coronavirus cases there.
HaHaHa medical people are so fed up with the testing boodoggle that they are cheering for a commercially developed test that works and that is not limited to use on China travel.
ma
Why? Please justify your response with facts.
Knowing what many, if not most people here know about CS, asking us to put LIFE OR DEATH FAITH in "some guy on a forum who said don't use it orally or vaporized" is just not going to cut it HERE. Back up your opinion with legitimate
documentation from scientific sources.
OTHERWISE your opinion is worthless and could influence someone to the detriment of their chance of surviving this CORONA VIRUS!
Those plans for post-nuclear tax collection were in a pamphlet that was included in the piles of paperwork going back to the 1930s that the HHS section of the Old Federal Building had and that I was one of the people charged with going through it before it was either shredded or sent to some archive somewhere.Consider that there are folks here who work in situations that they have not shared widely which give them access to a LOT of "offishul" information. Some of which MIGHT include forward looking planning for __________________________(go ahead. fill in the blank. I'll wait)_________________________________.
And 99 and 44 one hundredths percent of this info is NOT sharable under any number of penalties which couls permanently shut down ones freedom of movement etc (as Troke says metaphor there).
Now I have seen several people here sharing on Corona Chan who I'm pretty sure fir into the set above. And SOME who I KNOW fit.
One might consider what helen says to be of the kind of non-sharing that would be expected in this historical instance.
I can't (CLEARLY) say that she has knowledge of plans, but remember the Melodi indicated that SHE had read the Nuke War Preparation plans in ref the Post Office...
The restrictions have worked to some degree, scientists say. “If we had not put a travel restriction on, we would have had many, many, many more travel-related cases than we have,” says Anthony Fauci, who heads the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
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Gwyneth Paltrow has shared a photograph of herself with a mask covering her mouth as she travelled to Paris.
The actress - who starred in the 2011 thriller Contagion, about a deadly virus that swept the world - wrote on Instagram: “En route to Paris. Paranoid? Prudent? Panicked? Placid? Pandemic? Propaganda? Paltrow’s just going to go ahead and sleep with this thing on the plane.
“I’ve already been in this movie. Stay safe. Don’t shake hands. Wash hands frequently.”
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En route to Paris. Paranoid? Prudent? Panicked? Placid? Pandemic? Propaganda? Paltrow’s just going to go ahead and sleep with this thing on the plane. I’ve already been in this movie. Stay safe. Don’t shake hands. Wash hands frequently.
A post shared by Gwyneth Paltrow (@gwynethpaltrow) on Feb 26, 2020 at 2:59am PST
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This has to end now. This should be the first thing Pres Trump and his team take care of. If people are charged these insane amounts to get a COVID test, no one will go in to get tested.
Man receives $3,500 medical bill for coronavirus test after returning to US from China
Osmel Martinez Azcue only has the flu, but he now owes his insurance $1,400www.independent.co.uk
Coronavirus: Man receives $3,500 medical bill for test after returning to US from China
Osmel Martinez Azcue only has the flu, but he now owes his insurance $1,400
Danielle Zoellner
New York 11 hours ago
A Miami man has received a nearly $3,500 medical bill after getting coronavirus tests following his trip to China.
Osmel Martinez Azcue returned from a work trip last month to China and discovered he was feeling flu-like symptoms. Worried about the coronavirus, the man decided to go to a Florida hospital to get tested, according to the Miami Herald.
Testing revealed Mr Azcue had the flu, not the coronavirus. But his limited health insurance left him with a bill of $3,270 two weeks after his test. He will be responsible for $1,400 of that bill.
"How can they expect normal citizens to contribute to eliminating the potential risk of person-to-person spread if hospitals are waiting to charge us $3,270 for a simple blood test and a nasal swab?" Mr Azcue told the newspaper.
Mr Azcue previously had insurance through the Affordable Care Act. He picked that insurance as he makes $55,000 through his job at a medical-device company, and it does not provide a health insurance plan.
Once he first purchased the plan, he was paying $278 per month. These premiums then shot up to $400 once his full salary kicked in, forcing the man to cancel the coverage and pay $180 per month for a limited plan through National General Insurance.
This decision comes as the Trump administration rolled back the Affordable Care Act regulations in 2018 and allowed "junk plans" on the market.
These junk plans offer short-term, low-benefit coverage for people, but they also are not required to meet the law's standards for health coverage, meaning the plans could avoid covering pre-existing conditions or offering protections from large out-of-pocket expenses.
One problem people run into when shopping for insurance plans is the way these junk plans are advertised. Someone might think they have coverage for certain expenses only to discover later they don't.
Mr Azcue discovered that not only does he owe $1,400 out of pocket, but he also needs to provide his insurer with three years of medical records to prove that the flu he got didn't relate to a pre-existing condition. If for some reason the flu related to a pre-existing condition, then the insurer would no longer pay a portion of the man's bill.
Jackson Memorial Hospital, where Mr Azcue received his tests, told the Miami Herald more bills are on its way to the man. It is not clear what else he will have to pay for after getting tested for the coronavirus.
ma
Why? Please justify your response with facts.
Knowing what many, if not most people here know about CS, asking us to put LIFE OR DEATH FAITH in "some guy on a forum who said don't use it orally or vaporized" is just not going to cut it HERE. Back up your opinion with legitimate
documentation from scientific sources.
OTHERWISE your opinion is worthless and could influence someone to the detriment of their chance of surviving this CORONA VIRUS!