20Gauge
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The No SHxT Sherlock award of the day goes to "NEIL FERGUSON" of the Imperial College of London..... applause.....
CORONA Main Coronavirus thread
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northern watch
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Eric Feigl-Ding @DrEricDing 1m1 minute ago
Eric Feigl-Ding Retweeted richard horton
RESPECT
- Horton, the editor of major medical journal LANCET awesomely Twitter-checks and dresses down the Director of WHO Europe for shamelessly fluffing the leader of bad regime.
We need more of these call outs by people on first-name-basis with them.
Eric Feigl-Ding Retweeted richard horton
RESPECT
20Gauge
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So things are not stabilized..... if they were they would only go one way.....either way indicates CHOAS....
Trivium Pursuit
Has No Life - Lives on TB
This indeed bears watching. After all, if true, That's only 300 miles away from the Republic of Street Poop.
Trivium Pursuit
Has No Life - Lives on TB
There are also, for the record, a number of Indian nationals working as doctors and nurses in our health care system. They do great work, but here is yet another potential vector…
Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
Okay, guys, this is really big. I've been following this conference for years. Mobile World Congress has NEVER shut down. But here it is; too many of their key exhibitors pulled out.
Fair use cited so on and so forth.
www.zerohedge.com
World's Largest Wireless Industry Conference Canceled Due To Covid-19 Concerns
On Wednesday morning, Nokia, Vodafone, BT, Deutsche Telekom, HMD, AT&T, Sprint, Cisco, Facebook, Intel, Royole, Sony, Amazon, LG, Vivo, Ericsson, and Nvidia all withdrew from participating at the world's largest wireless industry conference in Barcelona on COVID-19 fears.
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By late afternoon, Mobile World Congress (MWC) canceled the event slated for Feb. 24 to Feb. 27 in Barcelona on virus concerns.
This is the first time MWC has canceled the conference in its 33-year history, which usually sees upwards of 100,000 participants from across the world.
MWC's theme on the now-canceled event was primarily based on the global rollout of 5G equipment and services. This could be a major setback for the industry as it appears the deadly virus spreading across the world could delay rollouts and planned investments in advanced telecommunication networks.
So it appears the world's largest wireless industry conference was just canceled because of "just the flu." Yeah right.... Maybe it's time governments starting to tell us the truth about COVID-19 outbreak - it seems that mega-corporations have already gotten the memo...
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Zerohedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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World's Largest Wireless Industry Conference Canceled Due To Covid-19 Concerns
On Wednesday morning, Nokia, Vodafone, BT, Deutsche Telekom, HMD, AT&T, Sprint, Cisco, Facebook, Intel, Royole, Sony, Amazon, LG, Vivo, Ericsson, and Nvidia all withdrew from participating at the world's largest wireless industry conference in Barcelona on COVID-19 fears.
GSMA
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https://twitter.com/GSMA/status/1227671600759287813
GSMA Statement on MWC Barcelona 2020 from John Hoffman, CEO GSMA Limited https://gsma.at/2ULcgsd
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By late afternoon, Mobile World Congress (MWC) canceled the event slated for Feb. 24 to Feb. 27 in Barcelona on virus concerns.
This is the first time MWC has canceled the conference in its 33-year history, which usually sees upwards of 100,000 participants from across the world.
MWC's theme on the now-canceled event was primarily based on the global rollout of 5G equipment and services. This could be a major setback for the industry as it appears the deadly virus spreading across the world could delay rollouts and planned investments in advanced telecommunication networks.
So it appears the world's largest wireless industry conference was just canceled because of "just the flu." Yeah right.... Maybe it's time governments starting to tell us the truth about COVID-19 outbreak - it seems that mega-corporations have already gotten the memo...
Samuel Adams
Has No Life - Lives on TB
This.
The world has never been so hamstrung by its own lofty notion of “civilization”.
Nor has it been so readily programmed through electronic “social media” to be at each others’ throats at the drop of a hat.
Not yet personally convinced that the Wu Flu is our greatest immediate enemy, but it wouldn’t take much to complete the perfect storm already on the horizon.
Just don't stand on th' third rail... In other words, things is about ta get "sporty..."
OA
Border Collie Dad
Flat Earther
I apologize if this has been mentioned above.
I can't keep up with this thread.
But, outside of China, how many deaths so far?
I can't keep up with this thread.
But, outside of China, how many deaths so far?
bcingu
Senior Member
61 Cases in South Africa tested and found to be free of infection. It is not known which test kit were used or the length of time individuals were under observation. In light of the new 24 day window and the CDC kits being faulty one wonders about the veracity of their diagnosis.
The NICD said on Tuesday 11 February that a total of 61 individuals were tested for the coronavirus (2019-nCoV) in South Africa and all of them have tested negative.
The NICD took to Twitter on Tuesday to put South Africa at ease: “There is no confirmed case of the 2019-nCoV in South Africa.”
NICD continues with coronavirus surveillance
In light of the ongoing novel coronavirus outbreak which originated in Wuhan City, Hubei Province of China and has now spread to other major Chinese cities and other countries, the NICD — a division of the National Health Laboratory Service — continues with its surveillance activities and testing of individuals with symptoms of the coronavirus.
Coronavirus update: 61 people test negative in South Africa
The NICD said on Tuesday 11 February that a total of 61 individuals were tested for the coronavirus (2019-nCoV) in South Africa and all of them have tested negative.
The NICD took to Twitter on Tuesday to put South Africa at ease: “There is no confirmed case of the 2019-nCoV in South Africa.”
NICD continues with coronavirus surveillance
In light of the ongoing novel coronavirus outbreak which originated in Wuhan City, Hubei Province of China and has now spread to other major Chinese cities and other countries, the NICD — a division of the National Health Laboratory Service — continues with its surveillance activities and testing of individuals with symptoms of the coronavirus.
Coronavirus update: 61 people test negative in South Africa
You should put a trademark on that one! LOL
Andy Biotech@AndyBiotech
Largest study to date from China CDC of first 4021 laboratory confirmed cases w/ #2019nCoV #COVID19 from 30 provinces R0 ~3.77 (95% CI 3.51-4.05) Case fatality rates (CFR) ~3.06% with significant gender difference - Male 4.45% - Female 1.25% https://medrxiv.org/content/10.110
This is America. Crematoriums are for profit businesses. They are not part of the socialist health insurance plans.
therefore, there are just enough crematoriums to fill current demand "Just In Time".
Any additional demand driven by pandemic will fall to local governments to resolve - invest in mobile cremation before the rush.
Question: If'n th' test kits ain't reliable, how could any figures/numbers be? Have ta get "good" test kits, an' retest EVERYONE!!! Not ta mention, last night's latest, this pestilence may lie dormant fer 42 DAYS??? Fuggedaboutit... We're doomed, if'n those 42 days is spent sharin' the virus- an folks not knowin'...
OA
OA
All the ink for the internet comes from China as well.
Martinhouse
Deceased
Could someone please tell me where it was first posted about the 42 day incubation period?
DazedandConfused
Veteran Member
What makes this Virus so bad that burial of the dead is not a option ?
desert knight
Contributing Member
good question
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
Too many too quick? Need to destroy the evidence?
Those would be my first two choices if I were to guess.
naturallysweet
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Bodies stay infectious after they die.
bw
Fringe Ranger
Chinese don't bury their dead much. Just cultural. Nothing to do with the virus.
naturallysweet
Has No Life - Lives on TB
The total woo part of my brain says china might have planned this to cut us all off from meds. Then release something that antibiotics can cure. But we don't have antibiotics. They do.
bw
Fringe Ranger
You should rein in that part of your brain, because it's not doing you any good at all right now.
Craftypatches
Veteran Member
So if it takes hold here, our money system would change! No one would want to handle cash!
DazedandConfused
Veteran Member
Tom McDowell
BAMN
First - No harm to the messenger. Thanks for the post.
The WHO (World Health Organization), and their acolytes - deserve scorn, shunning, and, a short drop from a long rope.
Take the naming of this novel coronavirus. Covid-19.
Good Lord! Sound like the name out of a video game, sci-fi movie (helps if you say the name out loud with a low gravelly voice).
Seriously though - it was renamed to reclassify. Namely to dump pneumonia out of the classification. At least that's my limited understanding. Kinda like what the did with the flu. Now your case numbers drop. Kinda, because if I understand the flu def - it includes pneumonia. That's why the flu kills so many tens of thousands a year. Helps push vaccines to have that high number.
Whereas with Covid-19, if untested and you die of ARDS, your body will not be added to the CFR.
Numbers lie and LIARS figure.
Covid-19, also a household disinfectant. Covid-19, solving all of your pesky humanity problems.
BTW while venting - that cruise ship in Japan, Princess whatever? Y'all do realize there a good chance that'll turn into 1,000 people dying. Pretty serious stuff. Just what in blue blazes are these people running things thinking! Maybe they're running some lab test with 4,000 souls. That's giving them credit for playing with a very inscrutable full deck. Somebody at US State should have the Marines show up and escort our citizens off and into our quarantine at some nearby base. And - then they might have a better chance of surviving. If not, these people will be force fed Covid-19 (it's got RNA!), with meals, walks, air, and touchy goo.
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SouthernBreeze
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I don't know. The thread has become too difficult to keep up with. I've quit trying. Just don't have the time to go back and read 10 pages that were posted, since the last time I was here.
Tristan
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Depends on how many "processing units" they have.
China is a huge place, with an enormous population. There are folks requiring the services of the crematoria every normal day, but I doubt they have the excess capacity to handle this situation.
John Deere Girl
Veteran Member
Antibiotics doesn't treat or cure it.
The number of dead bodies possibly.
TrueNorthNomads
Contributing Member
Nonsense!
Melodi
Disaster Cat
They may be useful and save lives, however, once it hits the lungs because pneumonia often leads to secondary bacterial infections but they won't do anything at all for the initial virus.
Often times patients that are high risk, will be given antibiotics to try and prevent a secondary bacterial infection but in healthy people,it is recommended to wait unless or until a bacterial infection occurs.
Chance
Veteran Member
The answer is its still 14 days!!
Melodi
Disaster Cat
Not in this case, my understanding is (and I will ask Nightwolf again) but my understanding is that with an AIRBOURNE Virus they can still be infectious.
It isn't that dead bodies are by their very nature likely to infect others, but with airborne viruses they can, Nightwolf said the HHS protocols for dealing with potential dead victims in the UK was one of the first hints (a couple of weeks ago) that this actually was an airborne virus (or highly suspected of being one).
naegling62
Veteran Member
I can't remember how many pages back but I believe the info came out of China and not Hong Kong, Taiwan or Japan so such info would need more verification. I thought when I saw it the story seemed to anecdotal and not verifiably. It was 42 days, in which I believe there are way too variables in that. I would consider it as an outlier at best, but a probability.
yes, 'cause 1000 have died from the virus. 1000 in a country of 1.5 billion is not a crisis, it is a boom, an expanded market, it is a "Hey baby, business is great, we going on a cruise to Thailand, gonna buy you a lobster dinner for a $1"
bw
Fringe Ranger
1000 doesn't even rise to the level of background noise.
littlechasingbear
2nd gen. prepper
I know what you mean. I go away for five minutes, come back, and bam there is a whole different page.
Chance
Veteran Member
Watch what China does, don't listen to what they say. To quarantine dozens of cities with strict rules, shoot people who don't want to go to quarantine, etc. Hello! Shows us China knows this is really BAD. Stupid is doing what China did in December. Stupid is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. Stupid is treating this like SARS.
northern watch
TB Fanatic
Russian MarketVerified account @russian_market 26m26 minutes ago
A 59-year-old Hong Kong preacher diagnosed with coronavirus held a Sunday service for over 100 individuals before realizing he’d contracted the virus.
A 59-year-old Hong Kong preacher diagnosed with coronavirus held a Sunday service for over 100 individuals before realizing he’d contracted the virus.