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I had quite the similar experience, as I have mentioned before.
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Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
If your reading of this is correct---
I would expect not a "deal" but a BOMB dropped on China if this thing does go super-nova in the rest of the world and they don't GIVE that "cure" away free!
Tom McDowell
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Perhaps this will help (grabbed from Alt):
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Discussion of coronavirus and HIV protein segments
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Heliobas Disciple
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You're right. I'll delete the graphic. thanks. (the Daily Mail link is for Japan though so I'll leave that up)
HD
I would dare to say that most people on the right who will prep, have prepped. And those on the left will be too busy criticizing trump as a xenophopic orange racists to bother.
EMICT
Veteran Member
I wonder how many fortune cookies they had to break open to find this 'cure'? That's how they get the 'Lucky Numbers' for their nCoV reporting... read it off the back of a fortune cookie paper strip.
jward
passin' thru
I couldn't begin to speak to China's conditions, thugh I did read recently that they do not report COD (causes of death) in the same manner as do we. I know that here there are statistical models that are used to extrapolate meaningful information even though circumstances are such as you describe.
Tristan
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Texican
Live Free & Die Free.... God Freedom Country....
When the DW is on facebook and posts about something she likes, the ads start poping up especially from Amazon....
Texican....
I have a flock of chickens, but I think i will be culling when things get bad. It is going to be a running gun battle every day to prevent hungry neighbors from raiding the coup. Can't let them just take them as it makes me a target, cant just give them away as it indicates I have stockpiles of food. Quite the dilemma, the local meth billies however.. .....I will sleep the sleep of the righteous.
Profit of Doom
Dismember
Might as well be fitted for body bags when you check in.Wuhan Ordered to Put Coronavirus-Infected Residents in Mass Quarantine Camps
Wuhan Ordered to Put Coronavirus-Infected Residents in Mass Quarantine Camps
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The Chinese government announced a new policy in Wuhan Friday to isolate individuals testing positive for the novel coronavirus ravaging the city in what the New York Times is calling “quarantine camps.”
The senior Chinese official tasked with coronavirus response reportedly ordered Wuhan authorities to “set up a 24-hour duty system” to prevent further spread of the deadly coronavirus.
“During these wartime conditions, there must be no deserters,” Sun Chunlan said, “or they will be nailed to the pillar of historical shame forever.”
The city has raced to comply with the order, erecting makeshift “mass quarantine shelters,” including one in a sports stadium, an exhibition center, and a building complex.
Wuhan is a city of 11 million people. It has already been on “lockdown” – a shutdown of public transportation, flights, and most usage of roads in and out of the city – for over a week to prevent the virus from spreading in the rest of the country. Local officials in Wuhan enacted the lockdown after an estimated five million people had left the city for the Lunar New Year holiday, according to the city’s mayor, so it is not clear if the measures have successfully stopped the virus from spreading. All 31 Chinese provinces have documented coronavirus cases.
According to the New York Times, Wuhan residents on Weibo, the highly censored but legal Chinese social media platform, have denounced the camps as frigid and in “very poor condition.”
“Doctors and nurses were not seen to be taking note of symptoms and distributing medicine,” a Weibo post claimed.
Wuhan’s lockdown has already caused a shortage of testing kits, hospital beds, and vital medical supplies. Residents have been forced to walk the streets to reach hospitals, but many have been turned away without so much as a test for the virus ravaging the isolated city.
The building of camps in another region of China may prove alarming to human rights activists that have already been denouncing the Communist Party for years for its use of concentration camps to eliminate the existence of Muslims, particularly ethnic Uyghur Muslims, in far-west Xinjiang province — where coronavirus statistics are a “state secret.”
The Pentagon has estimated that as many as three million people are currently trapped in concentration camps in Xinjiang for being Muslims or otherwise threats to the Han supremacist communist state.
Survivors have described murder, rape, indoctrination, slavery, forced sterilization, organ harvesting, and other human rights atrocities as taking place in the camps.
I think you need to define 'TSHTF' in order to get an accurate estimate.
Kind of like economics....when my neighbor losses his job it's a recession; when I lose mine it's a depression! True SHTF starts at my locked gate.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Well, shoot.
Dobbins is about 45 minutes from my house (in non - rush-hours in Atlanta; at rush hours all bets are off, especially weather like we had today.
Plus note the DATE through which they said they'd need them.
Thankfully, most of our neighbors also have chickens, milk cows, hogs and gardens. Unfortunately, they're mostly pacifists. I'm honestly not sure how long that would hold up if their wives or kids were threatened, butI definitely could see them standing by and letting a strong group (or armed individual) take whatever they wanted without reacting.
I've always figured the English in the township would probably end up protecting their Amish neighbors... at least, if they're interested in being able to buy food from them. I'm sure there are a few English toughs and troublemakers who will need to be dealt with early on.
Summerthyme
I've always figured the English in the township would probably end up protecting their Amish neighbors... at least, if they're interested in being able to buy food from them. I'm sure there are a few English toughs and troublemakers who will need to be dealt with early on.
Summerthyme
jward
passin' thru
The daily kleenex warning
Ankit Panda
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“...a growing sense of abandonment and fear has taken hold in Wuhan, fueling the sense that the city and surrounding province of Hubei are being sacrificed for the greater good of China”
View: https://twitter.com/nktpnd/status/1225639828407996419?s=20
Ankit Panda
@nktpnd
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“...a growing sense of abandonment and fear has taken hold in Wuhan, fueling the sense that the city and surrounding province of Hubei are being sacrificed for the greater good of China”
View: https://twitter.com/nktpnd/status/1225639828407996419?s=20
meandk0610
Veteran Member
So all the other people on the cruises between then and now ...
northern watch
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BNO NewsroomVerified account @BNODesk 5m5 minutes ago
BNO Newsroom Retweeted BNO Newsroom
BREAKING: China's anti-graft commission sending investigators to Wuhan to probe issues relating to Dr. Li Wenliang - CCTV
BNO Newsroom Retweeted BNO Newsroom
BREAKING: China's anti-graft commission sending investigators to Wuhan to probe issues relating to Dr. Li Wenliang - CCTV
meandk0610
Veteran Member
Where did this come from?
Tom McDowell
BAMN
Short term - < Feb., 14.
Long term - > Jan., 2021.
Sorry to submit more than one date. Wave theory and all that.
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I think you need to define 'TSHTF' in order to get an accurate estimate.
TSHTF already and is flying in all directions, only a few small splats have landed, the bulk is still airborne yet to splat down.
TrueNorthNomads
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Why?
If we had any sense at all we would remove ourselves completely from the path of the oncoming train.
Surely the people who frequent this forum can, after 23 years, isolate themselves well enough so as to not be touched by this virus and/or whatever else wicked this way comes.....
Sláinte!
Kathy.
EMICT
Veteran Member
It's an oscillating fan which hasn't quite rotated fully in our direction here at home.
DazedandConfused
Veteran Member
I second that
Ractivist
Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
I live in a university county. The tentacles are abundant. Seriously abundant. One child is not yet determined, going on 72 hours....but showed symptoms. This child had parents, could of been baby sat, maybe in a school....no clues. Just a child. No word on parents, parents contacts, nothing? How many folks might be contagious but not showing symptoms? I know someone involved with foreign students, with an emphasis on Chinese students. Crossed paths twice since Sunday, tonight in fact. I kept my distance. But just the same could of been exposed with a hundred others. We do not know, and in that is a panic that could very well materialize down the road with the folks who say gibmedatnow. Our society is lost.....add a serious virus, watch the panic go ballistic. Shore up best you can now.
John Deere Girl
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Isn't it always October?
northern watch
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Margaretha @M_curiosum 20m20 minutes ago
Austria has 3 suspected cases of coronavirus (Niederösterreich)#nCoV2019 #2019nCoV #coronavirus https://www.sozialministerium.at/Services/News-und-Events/Neuartiges-Coronavirus-(2019-nCov).html …
Austria has 3 suspected cases of coronavirus (Niederösterreich)
northern watch
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BNO NewsroomVerified account @BNODesk 21m21 minutes ago
BNO Newsroom Retweeted BNO Newsroom
The MS Westerdam was previously denied entry to the Philippines and Japan, and is now being turned away from Guam. It stopped in Hong Kong last week.
BNO NewsroomVerified account @BNODesk 23m23 minutes ago
BREAKING: Guam denies entry to Holland America's Westerdam cruise ship, citing fears of coronavirus
BNO Newsroom Retweeted BNO Newsroom
The MS Westerdam was previously denied entry to the Philippines and Japan, and is now being turned away from Guam. It stopped in Hong Kong last week.
BNO NewsroomVerified account @BNODesk 23m23 minutes ago
BREAKING: Guam denies entry to Holland America's Westerdam cruise ship, citing fears of coronavirus
Krayola
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^^^ This is what I was talking about earlier regarding the cruise ship staff delivering meals to the passengers and possibly spreading the virus. I went to the linked article above and the female passenger stated the following:not sure if im doing this right. this is a local story about a couple from southern utah on board the quarantined cruise ship. it was written when there were 10 confirmed cases. now its up to 61 confirmed.
St. George couple quarantined on cruise ship in Japan after coronavirus confirmed in 10 passengers
ST. GEORGE — A 14-day cruise for a St. George couple traveling on the Diamond Princess cruise line has become a 30-day nightmare after they were quarantined in Japan when 10 passengers and one crew member were diagnosed with the coronavirus. According to a letter given to passengers of the ship...www.stgeorgeutah.com
This is the Diamond Princess cruise line. The crew should be isolated, too, and not interacting with passengers.
marsh
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TrueNorthNomads
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Sanitary pads work nicely, as does activated charcoal as a protective layer. It’s easy to make a couple of small incisions in a sanitary napkin and then seal them with adhesive tape when the charcoal and salt are in place.
The napkin can easily be attached to a folded over winter scarf, which can be washed and dried overnight. So, a couple of winter scarfs, as many packages of (large) self-adhesive sanitary pads as you think you’ll need, and you’ll have adequate protection.
To prevent pneumonia, make up a saline solution (1 teaspoon of salt per bottle) and use a Rhinaris (50 ml) bottle (or equivalent). Tip head well backward and spray five generous sprays of the saline solution in to each nostril at least three times per day.
This inhibits pathogens from colonizing the lungs, and it serves as one of the best pneumococcal deterrents known to man.
Keep track of your Ph level too. Most diseases cannot exist in an alkaline environment, so it’s a good idea to adjust one’s diet accordingly.
Drinking a quart of lemon water (use a whole lemon, cut into quarters, with its juice squeezed in to your one-liter water bottle), soaked overnight with a teaspoonful of powdered Vitamin C. Drink first thing in the morning.
Afterward, prior to ingesting food, drink a baking soda cocktail (8 oz). I level tspn baking soda disolved in 8 oz of purified water will help to keep your body alkaline.
Do NOT drink tap water!
Sláinte!
Kathy.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Which leads to a question I've had---SHOUT OUT to Summerthyme---
you turned me on years ago to All Day Chemist for meds.
They're in India.
But I know that probably most of what they sell COMES from China.
Given that--should I still attempt to order from them and would it be safe to do so if they DO have items I want in stock?
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Great suggestions, Kathy, but as regards the tap water---we have a well. Our water is VERY good (ought to be; 160 feet straight through Georgia granite)---BUT...it's very acidic, not alkaline (all that granite, you know).
Will that preveetn health problems or encourage them? seems like we're always healthy (or at least my husband & sons are)
Probably no way to be 100% certain, but I just put an order in...I'd away the sooner, the better, though.
Summerthyme
Marthanoir
TB Fanatic
Yeah I was pondering last night as I fell asleep, I wonder how much of the Chinese military have been isolated away somewhere so as not to catch it.
Then I pondered what if this did go Global Killer, would the Chinese take the golden opportunity, even if this wasn't a planned bio release , If its offered on a silver plater why would they not take it
bw
Fringe Ranger
Let the passengers starve? That's a little harsh.
DrunkenMonk
Contributing Member
Crazy night for me personally regarding possible P.U.I. /suspected W.A.R.S. Coronavirus case!
I currently live in a "extended stay" hotel less than 5 miles from the Seattle airport (SeaTac), right on the Pacific Coast Highway (long story). Not really the most wholesome of areas, but it is cheap and has a stove.
Tonight, when my girlfriend arrived "home" from work, she was stopped while trying to board the elevator by an EMT wearing personal protection gear who was accompning an older man wearing what she described as a "complicated respirator mask".
She was told that she would have to use the stairs, as the old guy was under QUARANTINE and couldn't be on the elevator with anyone else. That was all she was told so no specific illness was mentioned, however since she is a elementary school teacher she has been getting alerts regarding the Coronavirus from the state at work, as well as news I tell her about it, so that is what she immediately suspected.
After she told me about it I went outside to investigate and sure enough there was an ambulance with 2 EMTs in personal protection gear (pics below) getting in and out of the back of the ambulance BEHIND the building! I couldn't tell what they were doing.
After they spotted me, I took the only possible course of action, which was to return to my room in order to open an IPA (VooDoo Ranger, by New Belgium Breweries) and confirm/discuss the event with my girlfriend.
After about 30 minutes of that, I went back outside and the ambulance was gone so I started walking to the store. Suddenly, a SECOND AMBULANCE pulls into the hotel parking lot (behind building again) with only one EMT, no mask. The driver parks, walks around the ambulance the gets back in and sits there. I continued on to the store and upon returning after about 30 minutes, all ambulances were gone
I can't get more information until the front desk clerk gets in tomorrow, but we are rattled and somewhat angry!
Therefore my question to you, is "am I freaking out or jumping to too many conclusions?" Maybe he just has T.B. or something.
What do you think, internet?
-DMT
I currently live in a "extended stay" hotel less than 5 miles from the Seattle airport (SeaTac), right on the Pacific Coast Highway (long story). Not really the most wholesome of areas, but it is cheap and has a stove.
Tonight, when my girlfriend arrived "home" from work, she was stopped while trying to board the elevator by an EMT wearing personal protection gear who was accompning an older man wearing what she described as a "complicated respirator mask".
She was told that she would have to use the stairs, as the old guy was under QUARANTINE and couldn't be on the elevator with anyone else. That was all she was told so no specific illness was mentioned, however since she is a elementary school teacher she has been getting alerts regarding the Coronavirus from the state at work, as well as news I tell her about it, so that is what she immediately suspected.
After she told me about it I went outside to investigate and sure enough there was an ambulance with 2 EMTs in personal protection gear (pics below) getting in and out of the back of the ambulance BEHIND the building! I couldn't tell what they were doing.
After they spotted me, I took the only possible course of action, which was to return to my room in order to open an IPA (VooDoo Ranger, by New Belgium Breweries) and confirm/discuss the event with my girlfriend.
After about 30 minutes of that, I went back outside and the ambulance was gone so I started walking to the store. Suddenly, a SECOND AMBULANCE pulls into the hotel parking lot (behind building again) with only one EMT, no mask. The driver parks, walks around the ambulance the gets back in and sits there. I continued on to the store and upon returning after about 30 minutes, all ambulances were gone
I can't get more information until the front desk clerk gets in tomorrow, but we are rattled and somewhat angry!
Therefore my question to you, is "am I freaking out or jumping to too many conclusions?" Maybe he just has T.B. or something.
What do you think, internet?
-DMT
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I think you should have offered your girlfriend an IPA too.