CORONA Main Coronavirus thread

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
20Gauge===> VME/EUCs???

I got really ticked a couple decades ago when they took away the BIG EUC that used to sit on the property (which is now a Welding Shop....if you can call Lincoln just a welding shop)
okay.... I am a bit dense today......VME/EUC ???
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
Let's just hope the Chinese don't connect probable CIA involment with the Hong Kong uprising and this current possible bioweapon release.

Dots are just lying around waiting to be connected whether truthful or not.
and China has plenty of markers to connect those dots......(nukes)
 

vector7

Dot Collector
"We must have an investigation of the outbreak in Wuhan. The Chinese must grant the world total transparency. The truth must come out. If Chinese officials are innocent, they have nothing to hide. If they are guilty, they will refuse to cooperate."

Yes, they WILL refuse to cooperate.

The world knows. They are trying to make it so "The Chinese People" don't figure it out.

Or........

Southside

This ^^^

The Coronavirus Blame Game, Explained by Chris Chappell | The China Report (48:41)
View: https://youtu.be/vSfMfPxzRiY?t=473
 

Burrito

Veteran Member
You realize that a beating doesn't have to be "to death", right? Applying some Hickory Shampoo is a time-honored method of getting a point across.

I hold no love for the CCP, but look at what they are dealing with. Demanding and enforcing, upon pain, a mandatory mask order makes perfect sense.

Here in the U.S. it would go down like this:

[LocalPoliceOfficer] "Citizen. In an effort to reduce transmission of the contagion, you are required by CDC and Presidential Order, to wear a protective mask when out in public. Comply immediately." [/LocalPoliceOfficer]

[NonCompliantCitizen]
"UP YOURS JOHNNY LAW! I'm an American! You can't make me!" [/NonCompliantCitizen]

[LocalPoliceOfficer]
Deploys Tazer. Tazes idiot. [/LocalPoliceOfficer]

[Local Health Department staff]
Three guys in full PPE, exit van following the officer's patrol. Handcuffs and shackles are applied. Mask is applied to idiot. Idiot is stuffed into back of van and taken to a quarantine facility.[/Local Health Department staff]

Don't think it can't happen.
The problem is, YOU CAN'T BUY ANY MASKS RIGHT NOW! They are all sold out. We were super lucky to already have some in the apartment when everything started getting shut down in China. You can't even find hand sanitizer or much sanitizer at all.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
For a month or more I have watched this thread bitch and moan that the government is not telling the truth.

So what could the gov do that would satisfy your yearning for the truth?
For me...... a few government officials run out of town on a rail?
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
The problem is, YOU CAN'T BUY ANY MASKS RIGHT NOW! They are all sold out. We were super lucky to already have some in the apartment when everything started getting shut down in China. You can't even find hand sanitizer or much sanitizer at all.

So?

Do you think that will stop people from acting stupid. No mask will often result in a beating under such circumstances. Not saying it is the correct thing to do, but it will happen.
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
It's rare to find a government pronouncement on almost any subject that doesn't seem to be part of some alternate reality. With respect to this new virus, there are no numbers that seem to correlate to other numbers. For example, quarantining 90M people over a disease that has killed under a thousand seems to make no sense. Now I can't prove that either the 90M or the <thousand is in error, it simply jangles my brain when I try to put both of those in at the same time.

I would call it 'truth' from the government if it resisted having giant holes poked through it by an eclectic collection of experts, students, dilettantes and amateurs.
 

KFhunter

Veteran Member
TB2K is one of if not the best source of overall information on the web. Thanks to the many for the diligent work.

If (IF) this really takes off here, in an effort to control the narrative, the government may shut down sites it can not censor and control and will have the emergency powers to do just that. I am saving some posts to the hard drive so I will have info on preparedness and treatment to refer to, but there is far too much to save but a little. I wish that I could download whole threads but Dennis explained why that is not feasible. I am not overly concerned right now but do see a possible although unlikely path to information quarantine. I suspect that if this is to occur we will have strong indications first but the actual event will not be pre-announced.


by then I won't care
 

vector7

Dot Collector
IF it were ever proven that the Chinese were going to try this for real, or they did try it and botched it and that's what we're seeing now, I would support a 100% embargo on all goods from there. As a start. We can indeed make our own stuff.

Drive them into the economic dirt, foment the ouster of their communistic demons, then maybe we let them participate in the world again. Not before.

Makes you wonder...the 'Useful Idiots' are working hard in Virginia once they get in power.

It's also much more efficient to spray for bugs possibly carrying a "rifle behind every blade of grass" before landscaping the yard.



Interesting how China's leadership is partnering with Democrats banning firearms in America and how the Left Coast has become the most progressive in restricting firearm ownership directly in the path of China's beachhead.

Companion Thread:
America Should Ban Civilian Guns to Protect Human Rights, Chinese Communist Dictatorship Says
 

mzkitty

I give up.
Translation:

A long line of people waits outside the #Xiehe hospital in #Wuhan during the #Coronavirus outbreak in #China . Video obtained by Reuters



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Video:

 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
TB2K is one of if not the best source of overall information on the web. Thanks to the many for the diligent work.

If (IF) this really takes off here, in an effort to control the narrative, the government may shut down sites it can not censor and control


And if the plug gets pulled on TB2K, that will likely be the last DOT from here you will ever need.
 

pops88

Girls with Guns Member
Some encouraging words:

A WORD FOR THE NATION OF CHINA

REPLENISHED HOPE MINISTRIES·TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 4, 2020·1 MINUTE
A WORD FOR THE NATION OF CHINA
The Lord says, “China you are a nation of deep traditions that no longer serve you. Although you embrace this identity, I AM birthing out a New Identity in this moment. One of Trust and One of Integrity. You are being Reborn from the moments of intense fire. You are being purified and being brought forth in New Garments. What was old is fading away, and what will come forth will be pure Gold. You have not wasted your best years, for even now I am redeeming your time. A Great Change is Coming Forth and a New Era of Deep Blessing and Great Joy. The people among you are not of the mindset that aligns with evil. Your hearts have been weighed and seen before My Throne. Your mourning, for generations upon generations, will make way for Joy and Prosperity once more. I can change the course of history in an hour. I AM in your midst even in this crisis, and I will see you through the tangled webs and burn up the enemy’s plans over your nation. What looked like a collapse will turn into a RISING UP and SOARING BEYOND what came to destroy.”
~Blessings MaryEllen McCloud Replenished Hope
‪#‎replenishedhope‬ ‪#‎dailypropheticword‬ ‪#‎dailyprophetic ‬
Replenished Hope Ministries
Replenishedhope.com

 
Thought this interesting and applicable. I think someone has already mentioned how JIT storage was an egg ready to crack:

Hyundai%2C%20Kia%20Factories%20Crippled%20In%20South%20Korea%20As%20Part%20Suppliers%20In%20China%20Remain%20Close%C2%A0.jpg


Hyundai, Kia Factories Crippled In South Korea As Part Suppliers In China Remain Closed

www.zerohedge.com
1 min read
A globalized world is full of complex supply chains that wind in and out of countries. When one country goes offline, the chain breaks, and that's exactly what's happening in Asia.
Yonhap News reports that Hyundai Motor Co. and its sister Kia Motors Corp. suspended production lines in South Korea after it was hit with a parts shortage from China as the coronavirus outbreak continues to leave entire manufacturing hubs shut down.

Hyundai is expected to close four South Korean plants by Friday.
The plants are expected to reopen on Feb. 10 or 11, but that entirely depends if manufacturing plants, cities, and transportation networks open in China.
"If auto parts factories in China resume operations on Feb. 10 or 11, production losses from lack of parts will be limited," the spokesman said. However, if the factories in China where Hyundai sources parts from remain closed through early next week, then severe supply chain disruptions will be seen, causing production output to crater in South Korea.
Vice President Ha Eon-tae, head of Hyundai's main plant, emailed workers at Ulsan plants on Monday, specifying how production suspensions are imminent because part suppliers in China remain closed due to the virus.
According to the local union, Kia, which is 34% owned by Hyundai, has had output reduced in Hwaseong and Gwangju, outside of Seoul, for similar issues.
Hyundai and Kia, together, are the world's fifth-largest carmaker by sales. If production lines in South Korea are halted and extend past next week, then a slump in economic output could weigh down South Korean 1Q GDP figures.
The fallout from the virus could force investors to reprice growth across the world. This would undoubtedly weigh on risk asset prices that remain near all-time highs.

read:Hyundai, Kia Factories Crippled In South Korea As Part Suppliers In China Remain Closed

For want of a nail...
 

Seeker22

Has No Life - Lives on TB
For a month or more I have watched this thread bitch and moan that the government is not telling the truth.

So what could the gov do that would satisfy your yearning for the truth?

Force China to use REAL MATH and not that chinese monkey math crap they are using.

If this is out of a lab- force China to tell the truth about exactly what it is, what it is built upon, why it was designed that way, and specifically who it was aimed at. So that we don't have to spend precious time reverse engineering it.

The spies should face war crimes charges that actually stick.

Get every lying damocrat out of the emergency response so that this doesn't just become a political weapon instead of an attempted quarantine.

Stop selling any food or meds to any other country and shore up our national preps for the incoming GSM as well as the Pandemic.

Under no circumstances let the UN into this country. And stop paying their bills.

That will get you started, YMMV.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
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4 Feb, 2020 19:34 / Updated 31 minutes ago

Events in Russia's Far East rarely register on the global radar, but right now the remote region may serve as canary in the coalmine for dangers to food security if the new Chinese coronavirus goes global.

Prices of some products have doubled since Moscow ordered the closure of a series of border checkpoints last week. At the same time, supplies of vegetables have already started to dwindle, even though there is no official blanket ban on importing Chinese produce.

Speaking to Interfax, a spokesperson for Khabarovsk's largest retail chain Samberi confirmed that prices have risen throughout the Far East. The local Minister of Agriculture, Alexander Shkurin, told a government meeting that stores in the region have begun their search for alternative suppliers, including in distant Turkey.

In neighboring Primorye, the regional government blamed its residents for the shortage of produce, highlighting that half of the regional market is accounted for by local vegetables, and most of the rest is imported from other regions of Russia with only a small percentage from China.

In even more isolated regions, such as Yakutia, the effect of low supply is felt extra harshly. The price of certain items has doubled. The head of the republic, Aisen Nikolaev, instructed the local government the prepare a cost-containment plan and Regional Deputy Prime Minister Denis Belozerov demanded that local suppliers stop speculating.

Prices for some vegetables, such as cucumbers, have doubled, as wholesalers begin to source their produce from Central Asia.

There is currently no official government ban on the supply of vegetables from China, but this has not prevented retail chains from taking emergency measures. Krasnodar's Magnit, a retail chain with over 15000 stores throughout the nation, announced that it had suspended the supply of fruits and vegetables from China amid the threat of coronavirus and increased logistic complexity.

Despite the emergency measures, prices elsewhere in Russia haven't been affected, for now.

 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
I was just reading on the #Coronavirus twitter that snitches are being paid up to $3,000 to turn in supposedly sick people.

Then I saw this.

Translation:

Those who do not wear masks in China are either arrested or beaten.


View attachment 181626

Video here, scroll down a bit. He has other nasty videos too:

I am wondering if they are taking the "suspected" infected and the won't wear a mask to the new "hospital" for quarantine.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
View attachment 181654

4 Feb, 2020 19:34 / Updated 31 minutes ago

Events in Russia's Far East rarely register on the global radar, but right now the remote region may serve as canary in the coalmine for dangers to food security if the new Chinese coronavirus goes global.

Prices of some products have doubled since Moscow ordered the closure of a series of border checkpoints last week. At the same time, supplies of vegetables have already started to dwindle, even though there is no official blanket ban on importing Chinese produce.

Speaking to Interfax, a spokesperson for Khabarovsk's largest retail chain Samberi confirmed that prices have risen throughout the Far East. The local Minister of Agriculture, Alexander Shkurin, told a government meeting that stores in the region have begun their search for alternative suppliers, including in distant Turkey.

In neighboring Primorye, the regional government blamed its residents for the shortage of produce, highlighting that half of the regional market is accounted for by local vegetables, and most of the rest is imported from other regions of Russia with only a small percentage from China.

In even more isolated regions, such as Yakutia, the effect of low supply is felt extra harshly. The price of certain items has doubled. The head of the republic, Aisen Nikolaev, instructed the local government the prepare a cost-containment plan and Regional Deputy Prime Minister Denis Belozerov demanded that local suppliers stop speculating.

Prices for some vegetables, such as cucumbers, have doubled, as wholesalers begin to source their produce from Central Asia.

There is currently no official government ban on the supply of vegetables from China, but this has not prevented retail chains from taking emergency measures. Krasnodar's Magnit, a retail chain with over 15000 stores throughout the nation, announced that it had suspended the supply of fruits and vegetables from China amid the threat of coronavirus and increased logistic complexity.

Despite the emergency measures, prices elsewhere in Russia haven't been affected, for now.

I keep watching Mexico. They have one suspected case. I can imagine the issues with our porous border, but if they shut it/slow it down to transport, we will lose much of our out of season veggies as well as our migrant workers.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
View attachment 181654

4 Feb, 2020 19:34 / Updated 31 minutes ago

Events in Russia's Far East rarely register on the global radar, but right now the remote region may serve as canary in the coalmine for dangers to food security if the new Chinese coronavirus goes global.

Prices of some products have doubled since Moscow ordered the closure of a series of border checkpoints last week. At the same time, supplies of vegetables have already started to dwindle, even though there is no official blanket ban on importing Chinese produce.

Speaking to Interfax, a spokesperson for Khabarovsk's largest retail chain Samberi confirmed that prices have risen throughout the Far East. The local Minister of Agriculture, Alexander Shkurin, told a government meeting that stores in the region have begun their search for alternative suppliers, including in distant Turkey.

In neighboring Primorye, the regional government blamed its residents for the shortage of produce, highlighting that half of the regional market is accounted for by local vegetables, and most of the rest is imported from other regions of Russia with only a small percentage from China.

In even more isolated regions, such as Yakutia, the effect of low supply is felt extra harshly. The price of certain items has doubled. The head of the republic, Aisen Nikolaev, instructed the local government the prepare a cost-containment plan and Regional Deputy Prime Minister Denis Belozerov demanded that local suppliers stop speculating.

Prices for some vegetables, such as cucumbers, have doubled, as wholesalers begin to source their produce from Central Asia.

There is currently no official government ban on the supply of vegetables from China, but this has not prevented retail chains from taking emergency measures. Krasnodar's Magnit, a retail chain with over 15000 stores throughout the nation, announced that it had suspended the supply of fruits and vegetables from China amid the threat of coronavirus and increased logistic complexity.

Despite the emergency measures, prices elsewhere in Russia haven't been affected, for now.

Yep.... as expected. People begin to prep and the government gets upset as prices will rise. More worried about their jobs than the people. All they had to do was bring food from a surplus region and the problem would have been solved, (if only short term).
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
I don’t think these are being designed to help people recover. They are just quarantine areas to separate them from the public. I doubt the nurses in these facilities are getting out healthy.

Sonderkommando...

In the death camps, healthy and fit Jews were used to cremate the bodies of the dead. They enjoyed better care, better food, better clothing, and better treatment but every 4 months they were rotated to the gas chambers and killed ( no witnesses ). The new kommando's first task was to cremate those they replaced...
 

mecoastie

Veteran Member
Thought this interesting and applicable. I think someone has already mentioned how JIT storage was an egg ready to crack:

Hyundai%2C%20Kia%20Factories%20Crippled%20In%20South%20Korea%20As%20Part%20Suppliers%20In%20China%20Remain%20Close%C2%A0.jpg


Hyundai, Kia Factories Crippled In South Korea As Part Suppliers In China Remain Closed

www.zerohedge.com
1 min read
A globalized world is full of complex supply chains that wind in and out of countries. When one country goes offline, the chain breaks, and that's exactly what's happening in Asia.
Yonhap News reports that Hyundai Motor Co. and its sister Kia Motors Corp. suspended production lines in South Korea after it was hit with a parts shortage from China as the coronavirus outbreak continues to leave entire manufacturing hubs shut down.

Hyundai is expected to close four South Korean plants by Friday.
The plants are expected to reopen on Feb. 10 or 11, but that entirely depends if manufacturing plants, cities, and transportation networks open in China.
"If auto parts factories in China resume operations on Feb. 10 or 11, production losses from lack of parts will be limited," the spokesman said. However, if the factories in China where Hyundai sources parts from remain closed through early next week, then severe supply chain disruptions will be seen, causing production output to crater in South Korea.
Vice President Ha Eon-tae, head of Hyundai's main plant, emailed workers at Ulsan plants on Monday, specifying how production suspensions are imminent because part suppliers in China remain closed due to the virus.
According to the local union, Kia, which is 34% owned by Hyundai, has had output reduced in Hwaseong and Gwangju, outside of Seoul, for similar issues.
Hyundai and Kia, together, are the world's fifth-largest carmaker by sales. If production lines in South Korea are halted and extend past next week, then a slump in economic output could weigh down South Korean 1Q GDP figures.
The fallout from the virus could force investors to reprice growth across the world. This would undoubtedly weigh on risk asset prices that remain near all-time highs.

read:Hyundai, Kia Factories Crippled In South Korea As Part Suppliers In China Remain Closed
After 9/11 when we closed our border with Canada the US auto factories almost ran out of Canadian parts before they were reopened.
 

Reader

Veteran Member
The problem is, YOU CAN'T BUY ANY MASKS RIGHT NOW! They are all sold out. We were super lucky to already have some in the apartment when everything started getting shut down in China. You can't even find hand sanitizer or much sanitizer at all.
Harbor Freight online has the masks now
 

mzkitty

I give up.
I keep watching Mexico. They have one suspected case. I can imagine the issues with our porous border, but if they shut it/slow it down to transport, we will lose much of our out of season veggies as well as our migrant workers.

And now a case in Columbia. I'm not too worried about fruits and vegetables here. It would be inconvenient to not have fresh, but we have tons of canned and frozen stuff to tide us over.

We're not like Siberia.
 

Heliobas Disciple

TB Fanatic
View: https://mobile.twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1224718119853273088



曾錚 Jennifer Zeng
@jenniferatntd


NO JOKE! Your social media accounts in China will be permanently blocked if you post ANY links about the #Coronavirus. In one person posts any link in a group, the accounts of ALL the people in that group will be permanently blocked! #Coronavirus #CoronavirusOutbreak #武汉肺炎
Image
10:35 AM · Feb 4, 2020·Twitter Web App

Thank you for posting the actual tweet. Ironically (or not so ironic) that twitter page no longer exists.

HD
 

AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Thought this interesting and applicable. I think someone has already mentioned how JIT storage was an egg ready to crack:

Hyundai%2C%20Kia%20Factories%20Crippled%20In%20South%20Korea%20As%20Part%20Suppliers%20In%20China%20Remain%20Close%C2%A0.jpg


Hyundai, Kia Factories Crippled In South Korea As Part Suppliers In China Remain Closed

www.zerohedge.com
1 min read
A globalized world is full of complex supply chains that wind in and out of countries. When one country goes offline, the chain breaks, and that's exactly what's happening in Asia.
Yonhap News reports that Hyundai Motor Co. and its sister Kia Motors Corp. suspended production lines in South Korea after it was hit with a parts shortage from China as the coronavirus outbreak continues to leave entire manufacturing hubs shut down.

Hyundai is expected to close four South Korean plants by Friday.
The plants are expected to reopen on Feb. 10 or 11, but that entirely depends if manufacturing plants, cities, and transportation networks open in China.
"If auto parts factories in China resume operations on Feb. 10 or 11, production losses from lack of parts will be limited," the spokesman said. However, if the factories in China where Hyundai sources parts from remain closed through early next week, then severe supply chain disruptions will be seen, causing production output to crater in South Korea.
Vice President Ha Eon-tae, head of Hyundai's main plant, emailed workers at Ulsan plants on Monday, specifying how production suspensions are imminent because part suppliers in China remain closed due to the virus.
According to the local union, Kia, which is 34% owned by Hyundai, has had output reduced in Hwaseong and Gwangju, outside of Seoul, for similar issues.
Hyundai and Kia, together, are the world's fifth-largest carmaker by sales. If production lines in South Korea are halted and extend past next week, then a slump in economic output could weigh down South Korean 1Q GDP figures.
The fallout from the virus could force investors to reprice growth across the world. This would undoubtedly weigh on risk asset prices that remain near all-time highs.

read:Hyundai, Kia Factories Crippled In South Korea As Part Suppliers In China Remain Closed

At least Kia and Hyundai are talking publicly about their supply issues. Two other manufacturers are getting hit with lack of Chinese supplied parts-Volkswagen and GM. VW has gone whole hog using Chinese parts makers and their parts supplies are drying up. Expect VW's Chinese plants to shut down very shortly, if they haven't shut down already. Also expect US supplies of the Passat, Jetta (Mexican made, lots of Chinese sub assemblies) and the Atlas suv (built here but again, lots of Chinese parts) to start drying up. GM will start having supply issues with transmissions and electronics for the same reason; and those parts issues will hit across all their vehicle lines.
 

DennisRGH

Reset
I don't know if this has already been posted yet. I don't read/follow every page. Not even close. But FWIW. It looks like there are ways to stop this thing in it's tracks. At least for some.

Thai Doctors Say They Cured Patient of Coronavirus ‘in 48 Hours’

Thai Doctors Say They Cured Patient of Coronavirus ‘in 48 Hours’


BANGKOK — The Ministry of Public Health on Sunday said they discovered medical treatment that rendered the new strain of coronavirus impotent in 48 hours.

The breakthrough discovery was made in the case of a 70-year-old Chinese woman who was admitted to a hospital in Thailand for pneumonia and excessive fluid in the lungs caused by the coronavirus, according to the ministry.

The unnamed woman had repeatedly tested positive for coronavirus for 10 days before doctors administered her with a combination of anti-HIV and flu treatment medication, Rajavithi Hospital lung physician Kriangsak Atipornwanich said at a news conference.

The patient then tested negative just 48 hours later, Kriangsak said, adding that the lab result was cross-examined and confirmed by Chulalongkorn Hospital and the Department of Medical Sciences.


The anti-HIV medicines used in the treatment were a cocktail of Ritonavir and Lopinavir, while the flu medication was identified as Oseltamivir.

Department director Somsak Akkslip said the finding will be shared with the international medical community.

He also warned that the method may not work in every case. Somsak said at least one patient under the government’s care responded negatively to doses of Oseltamivir, and physicians will continue to rely on the conventional treatment, which has also proven successful.

“But if the patient is under serious condition, we will adopt Rajavithi Hospital’s medication formula as an option of our treatment,” Somsak said. “We will continue to collect the data.”
 

Heliobas Disciple

TB Fanatic
TB2K is one of if not the best source of overall information on the web. Thanks to the many for the diligent work.

If (IF) this really takes off here, in an effort to control the narrative, the government may shut down sites it can not censor and control


And if the plug gets pulled on TB2K, that will likely be the last DOT from here you will ever need.

If they start taking down sites like TB, the board should go members only so that we don't show up on google's AI radar. We're not there yet and we'll see other boards go down before they reach ours. I would think if we see Twitter, youtube Drudge Reddit, being shut down, that would be the warning Dennis would need to flip that switch and hope we escape censorship. But if someone is lurking, and debating whether or not to join, do it now!

HD
 
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