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northern watch

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Steve Lookner‏Verified account @lookner 48m48 minutes ago

Wenzhou has 9 million people, and is 400 miles from Wuhan --No work until at least Feb 18 --No school or college until at least March --All public transportation closed --Only one person from each household can go out every 2 days to buy necessities
 
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National Post‏Verified account @nationalpost 1h1 hour ago

Chinese citizens are using mapping programs and travel trackers in a bid to avoid neighbourhoods with infections of the coronavirus and to better prepare for the dangers they face.
 
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CBC News Alerts‏Verified account @CBCAlerts 3m3 minutes ago

Clarification: Global Affairs Canada now says it can't guarantee all members of families with mixed citizenship status will be able to leave Wuhan. Guardians who are permanent residents may board the plane only if the Canadian child in their care would otherwise be unaccompanied.
 
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Dr. Dena Grayson‏Verified account @DrDenaGrayson 7h7 hours ago

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In just weeks, the 360 deaths in #China from #Wuhan #coronavirus has overtaken the death toll from SARS in #China. The number of #2019nCoV cases in China is 17,205 as of Sunday night, an increase of ~20% (>2,800 new) on the previous day.
 
Capt. Eddie

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northern watch said:
Everett Herald‏Verified account @EverettHerald 2h2 hours ago

The first person in the United States diagnosed with the Wuhan coronavirus has been released from an Everett hospital, after being admitted two weeks ago.
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Any bets as to whether he's still shedding virus, in feces etc... Or whether they even bothered to check before releasing him?

ETA: From what's been posted here "asymptomatic" isn't good enough.
 
Hfcomms

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Ragnarok said:
Woooo-Boy... This could be the real beginning in the U.S...
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I recall San Francisco opened their E.O.C. last week already over the virus. Consider both Chinatown and the homeless defecting on the street. This virus seems very good at transmitting thru fecal contamination. San Francisco is a Petri dish similar to urban China and a very strong case for spread in the U.S.
 
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BNO Newsroom‏Verified account @BNODesk 7m7 minutes ago

Because we keep getting asked about this, the daily updates from China are at: - Hubei province: 6 a.m. (5 p.m. ET) - National: 8 a.m. (7 p.m. ET) Smaller updates in between
 
Mark D

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Capt. Eddie said:
Any bets as to whether he's still shedding virus, in feces etc... Or whether they even bothered to check before releasing him?

ETA: From what's been posted here "asymptomatic" isn't good enough.
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WooHoo! Gotta love being one town away from the science experiment!

Given the nature of this bug, I'd REALLY like to see treatment that was a bit more, "isolated" and complete.
 
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Concerning Islamic countries not reporting cases so far-I think that likely has more to do with typical Chinese travel patterns than anything. Most countries with cases outside China have been a) geographically close b) popular tourist destinations or c) ties to financial/manufacturing/business. Once (if) the secondary H2H transmission takes off in Europe but in particular the Islamic African countries-I would anticipate cases in ME countries rising. Much like many posters kept asking if it had infected non Asians yet-simply a matter of time to transmit vs some sort of woo. Imho
 
Blizzard

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Chance said:
One guy released after being treated for corona virus experiencing mild symptoms., temp of 102.5, recovered quickly and released, then two days later they did mouth/nasal swabs...found this virus in concentrations of some 10 to the 8th virus per ml (think I remember that quickly)......they have found this in feces...and on door knobs...

We don't know if people declared cured/recovered are going to get critically ill in the future. And they obviously still have the virus and are able to spread it. Perfect bioweapon. With Spanish Flu there were reports of people getting better and then they got slammed hard and died.
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Its called a "quiescent period" and it was discussed at the morning teleconference. This same pattern was seen during the 1918 flu and others. Seems the mortality rate for this bug is about to get readjusted.

Blizzard, MD, FACEP
 
Seeker22

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Hfcomms said:
I recall San Francisco opened their E.O.C. last week already over the virus. Consider both Chinatown and the homeless defecting on the street. This virus seems very good at transmitting thru fecal contamination. San Francisco is a Petri dish similar to urban China and a very strong case for spread in the U.S.
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I keep beating that Parvo horse :dhr:

But this virus is just the same in that it can be spread in feces. It's just that human :poop:piles are bigger and have a chance to spread their load on shoes, carried by water from rain, etc. We are headed into warm weather, so flies and such will be another carrier. Homeless camps will be ground zero for this.

There is a lot that they could tell us. They choose to parse facts and outright lie instead. Duly noted and filed.
 
Hfcomms

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Blizzard said:
Its called a "quiescent period" and it was discussed at the morning teleconference. This same pattern was seen during the 1918 flu and others. Seems the mortality rate for this bug is about to get readjusted.

Blizzard, MD, FACEP
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Wonderful........and I take it that it’s not going to be adjusted down. It is what it is. I’d rather have truth than have smoke be blown up my backside.
 
Seeker22

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Hfcomms said:
Wonderful........and I take it that it’s not going to be adjusted down. It is what it is. I’d rather have truth than have smoke be blown up my backside.
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Thank you- that is nicer than I would have said it. I have a visceral hatred of liars.
 
Doc1

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Ragnarok said:
Yeah... I find all the recent propaganda ( that's what it is ) about how useless masks are very suspect.

If useless, why do doctors and nurses wear them? Why can you be arrested for NOT wearing one in China? Why have they always been effective up until this outbreak?
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IMHO the masks are about preventing transmission from the wearer as well as protecting the wearer. N95s will not actually stop viruses as thy are sub-microscopic, but they can reduce virus-containing aerosols from coughing and sneezing. I'm not a doctor or microbiologist, but I suspect that virus protection is much like nuclear contamination protection: The idea is not to stop every single radioactive atom, but to stop the majority of them. Perhaps people with strong immune systems aren't likely to contract the virus from a single one (or small number), but could become infected if they were exposed to a larger number of them.

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It has likely been covered by now,but

The prefab hospital that looks a lot like pre fab prison.

Does anyone think they designed a hospital from scratch? Hmm they already have a design for the facilities that are the re-education camps for Muslims, Christians and the tai-chai people that the Chinese send to camps by The Millions. I bet if we could walk in any of the camps (except the show camp for media and red cross) the facilities would look a lot like the brand new hospitals.

Throw in special air to create negative pressure and you have hospital for highly contagious and if they get bad you don’t have to weld bars on the doors or windows.

And the US is over-reacting.
 
Lone_Hawk

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RETRACTION RETRACTIONS
The text I received yesterday had a link in it that I didn't follow until today. The text was from a medical professional that I formally trusted for such information. Turns out the information about a case at Fort Bragg was bogus and the link was a joke.

So there is NOT a confirmed case at Bragg.
 
marsh

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Who says that we are much different than China? Control the narrative. (Actually, the constricted flow of information leads to distrust, creating a desire for more information from other sources.)
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WHO working with Google to combat virus misinformation
Today, 06:08 AM

WHO working with Google to combat virus misinformation

By Associated Press East Geneva
PUBLISHED 5:46 AM ET Feb. 03, 2020

GENEVA (AP) — The World Health Organization is working with Google to ensure that people get facts from WHO first when they search for information about the new virus that recently emerged in China.

Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told the opening of WHO's executive board meeting on Monday that social media platforms such as Twitter, Facebook, Tencent and TikTok have also taken steps to limit the spread of misinformation and rumors about the virus and outbreak that first emerged in the Chinese city of Wuhan in late December and has now spread to 23 other countries.

"To that end, we have worked with Google to make sure people searching for information about coronavirus see WHO information at the top of their search results," he said.
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https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs...misinformation
 
mzkitty

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Translation:

He Emeishan (峨眉山) west of Chengdu (成都市), Sichuan Province (四川省). Chinese authorities have announced the closure of many important tourist spots that make Emeishan without people. A large group of monkeys on the hill starved for many days ... The staff then made a large pile of Man Tho to distribute. Worth noting is Discipline

(Man Tho is steamed bread buns, I looked it up)



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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1224268387762597888
View: https://twitter.com/Lin_charoenkit/status/1224268387762597888
 
marsh

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US - CDC Media Advisory: CDC Media Telebriefing: Update on 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) today at 11:30 am ET - FluTrackers News and Information

US - CDC Media Advisory: CDC Media Telebriefing: Update on 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) today at 11:30 am ET
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US - CDC Media Advisory: CDC Media Telebriefing: Update on 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) today at 11:30 am ET
Today, 11:09 AM


From: "Media@cdc.gov (CDC)" <sohco@CDC.GOV>
To: MMWR-MEDIA@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject: Media Advisory: CDC Media Telebriefing: Update on 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)
Date: Feb 3, 2020 10:50 AM

Media Advisory

For Immediate Release
Monday, February 3, 2020

Contact: CDC Media Relations
(404) 639-3286

CDC Media Telebriefing: Update on 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)

What The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) will provide an update to media on the 2019 Novel Coronavirus response.

Who Nancy Messonnier, M.D., Director,
National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases

When 11:30 a.m. ET Monday, February 3, 2020

Dial-In

Media: 800-857-9756
International: 1-212-287-1647
PASSCODE: redacted

Non-Media: 888-795-0855


International: 1-630-395-0498
PASSCODE: redacted

Important Instructions
Due to anticipated high volume, please plan to dial in to the telebriefing 15 minutes before the start time.

Media: If you would like to ask a question during the call, press *1 on your touchtone phone. Press *2 to withdraw your question. You may queue up at any time. You will hear a tone to indicate your question is pending.

TRANSCRIPT
A transcript will be available following the briefing at CDC’s web site: www.cdc.gov/media.

Today, 11:58 AM

teleconference notes:


5 more US infections, total is 11.

4 of 5 have travel history to Wuhan, 1 of 5 is a close contact of a known case.

Expect this to continue.

167 persons under investigation have tested negative

82 tests pending on possible cases

CDC has isolated virus

Will submit an emergency request to FDA to be able to use new CDC test

Negative test does not quarantee 100% disease free. Infection might be new in person's body and is not picked up by test yet.

CDC is issuing additional guidance for travelers

Travel policy will not catch every case. Goal is to slow entry in the US.

Dept of State bringing more people back from Wuhan. Will be under quarantine for 14 days.

"A very serious health threat" Preparing like this is the next pandemic.

Rumor control? Holding press conferences to get correct information out. Asking for journalists to help in getting credible data out. American public is at low risk. Focus is now on travelers.

Name is temporary.

11 airports are heaving screening: JFK, O"Hare, SFO, Seattle, Honolulu, LAX, Atlanta, Washington Dulles, Dallas, Newark, Detroit.

Only 195 quarantined - the original people from Wuhan. (My comment: Except what about the hospitalized people? Aren't they essentially quarantined also?)

No deaths in the US. Some patients have had some oxygen requirements.

Where do quarantined people from the airports go? Working on plan. Might be different per location. Many localities have pandemic plans and have an idea where they will place these people.

17k in China with a novel virus with no immunity. Large expanding outbreak. Community transmission in China. All worrisome data points.

Goal is to slow this thing down.

"Unprecedented threat"

Is CDC panicking? Horrible situation in China. Lots of disruption. Hearts go out to them.

CDC has strong scientists. CDC would be a help to China. Science should trump everything else.
 
marsh

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WHO to work closely with Saudi Arabia during Umrah season - FluTrackers News and Information

Source: https://gulfnews.com/uae/health/who-to-work-closely-with-saudi-arabia-during-umrah-season-1.69445157 WHO to work closely with Saudi Arabia during Umrah season UAE has raised level of preparedness, WHO experts say at first regional 2019-nCoV meeting Published: February 02, 2020 16:23...
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WHO to work closely with Saudi Arabia during Umrah season
Yesterday, 08:01 AM

Source: https://gulfnews.com/uae/health/who-...son-1.69445157

WHO to work closely with Saudi Arabia during Umrah season
UAE has raised level of preparedness, WHO experts say at first regional 2019-nCoV meeting
Published: February 02, 2020 16:23 Samihah Zaman, Staff Reporter

Abu Dhabi: The World Health Organisation (WHO) will work closely with authorities in Saudi Arabia to ensure that the upcoming pilgrimage season does not pose additional health risks with regard to the 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV), it was announced on Sunday.

At the first regional media conference on the 2019-nCoV by the WHO in Cairo on Sunday, experts at WHO’s Eastern Mediterranean Regional Office (WHO-EMRO) added that the UAE has a heightened level of preparedness to prevent the spread of the 2019-nCoV, even though it is the only country in the region to have reported 2019-nCoV infections till date...
 
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Top WHO official says it’s not too late to stop the new coronavirus outbreak - FluTrackers News and Information

Source: https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/01/top-who-official-says-not-too-late-to-stop-coronavirus-outbreak/ Top WHO official says it’s not too late to stop the new coronavirus outbreak By Helen Branswell February 1, 2020 There is still reason to believe the growing coronavirus outbreak in...
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Top WHO official says it’s not too late to stop the new coronavirus outbreak
February 1st, 2020, 03:30 PM

Source: https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/01/...irus-outbreak/

Top WHO official says it’s not too late to stop the new coronavirus outbreak
By Helen Branswell
February 1, 2020

There is still reason to believe the growing coronavirus outbreak in China can be contained, a top World Health Organization official said Saturday, pointing to some evidence that the disease may not be spreading as rapidly as is feared. He also downplayed reports that people infected with the virus may be contagious before they show symptoms — a feature that, if true, would make it much harder to control.

“Until [containment] is impossible, we should keep trying,” Dr. Mike Ryan, head of the WHO’s Emergencies Program, said in an interview with STAT. The WHO declared the outbreak a global health emergency on Thursday....
 
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ECDC: Risk assessment: Outbreak of acute respiratory syndrome associated with a novel coronavirus, China: first local transmission in the EU/EEA − third update - FluTrackers News and Information

Executive summary On 31 December 2019, a cluster of pneumonia cases of unknown aetiology was reported in Wuhan, Hubei Province, China. On 9 January 2020, China CDC reported a novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) as the causative agent of this outbreak, which is phylogenetically in the SARS-CoV...
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ECDC: Risk assessment: Outbreak of acute respiratory syndrome associated with a novel coronavirus, China: first local transmission in the EU/EEA − third update
January 31st, 2020, 10:51 AM

Executive summary

On 31 December 2019, a cluster of pneumonia cases of unknown aetiology was reported in Wuhan, Hubei Province, China. On 9 January 2020, China CDC reported a novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) as the causative agent of this outbreak, which is phylogenetically in the SARS-CoV clade.
As of 30 January 2020 09:00, more than 7 000 laboratory-confirmed 2019-nCoV cases have been reported worldwide, mainly in China, but also with more than 70 imported cases from other countries around the world. Details on the epidemiological update for 2019-nCoV can be found on ECDC’s website.
So far, one hundred and seventy deaths associated with this virus have been reported. On 20 January, Chinese health authorities confirmed human-to-human transmission outside of Hubei province. Sixteen healthcare workers are reported to have been infected.
On 24 January 2020, the first three cases of 2019-nCoV imported into the EU/EEA were identified in France and one additional case was reported on 29 January 2020. On 28 January, a cluster of four locally-acquired cases, with indirect links to Wuhan, was reported from Germany. On 29 January, Finland reported an imported case from Wuhan.
China CDC assesses the transmissibility of this virus to be sufficient for sustained community transmission without unprecedented control measures. Further cases and deaths in China are expected in the coming days and weeks. Further cases or clusters are also expected among travellers from China, mainly Hubei province. Therefore, health authorities in the EU/EEA Member States should remain vigilant and strengthen their capacity to respond to such an event.
There are considerable uncertainties in assessing the risk of this event, due to lack of detailed epidemiological analyses.
On the basis of the information currently available, ECDC considers that:
  • the potential impact of 2019-nCoV outbreaks is high;
  • the likelihood of infection for EU/EEA citizens residing in or visiting Hubei province is estimated to be high;
  • the likelihood of infection for EU/EEA citizens in other Chinese provinces is moderate and will increase;
  • there is a moderate-to-high likelihood of additional imported cases in the EU/EEA;
  • the likelihood of observing further limited human-to-human transmission within the EU/EEA is estimated as very low to low if cases are detected early and appropriate infection prevention and control (IPC) practices are implemented, particularly in healthcare settings in EU/EEA countries;
  • assuming that cases in the EU/EEA are detected in a timely manner and that rigorous IPC measures are applied, the likelihood of sustained human-to-human transmission within the EU/EEA is currently very low to low;
  • the late detection of an imported case in an EU/EEA country without the application of appropriate infection prevention and control measures would result in the high likelihood of human-to-human transmission, therefore in such a scenario the risk of secondary transmission in the community setting is estimated to be high.
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/public...ciated-novel-1
 
20Gauge

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momengineer said:
Concerning Islamic countries not reporting cases so far-I think that likely has more to do with typical Chinese travel patterns than anything. Most countries with cases outside China have been a) geographically close b) popular tourist destinations or c) ties to financial/manufacturing/business. Once (if) the secondary H2H transmission takes off in Europe but in particular the Islamic African countries-I would anticipate cases in ME countries rising. Much like many posters kept asking if it had infected non Asians yet-simply a matter of time to transmit vs some sort of woo. Imho
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But we like our WOO.......
 
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