Ragnarok
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You really think that his brain is that sharp?
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You really think that his brain is that sharp?
20Gauge
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It is worse. If it gets here and causes any issues with her life, she would demand the heads of anyone who had supplies or things she needed. Death to others would become common in order to feed her needs.
It isn't the mass murderer or those without morals I worry about. They can be handled. It is those who are "normal" by all standards and are spoiled in nature, (seems to be most of the population). These are the people who will justify just about anything when it comes to maintaining what they expect as their rights.
They will gladly burn your house down
They will gladly beat you to death
They will gladly send your children into the cold
They will gladly take all you have... and more
They view their needs as the most important needs and will gladly destroy those who have something in order to "get" what is theirs as they view anything you have as "stolen" from them. These are the truly dangerous people in this world.
20Gauge
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I thought Korea was getting worse with more cases?
pops88
Girls with Guns Member
A nurse weighs in- when I first saw the picture I initially thought it was oxygen tubing, but taking a closer look decided it was an N-G tube (nasogastric) for either feeding or stomach decompression (probably feeding though). Since there's been so much speculation, I went back and looked again, and I'm still going with N-G tube. I don't see anything that looks like earbuds or something non medical.
Intestinal Fortitude
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5 arrested in Nigeria for causing chaos after coronavirus 'prank' | IOL News
5 arrested in Nigeria for causing chaos after coronavirus 'prank'
Africa / 3 February 2020, 9:55pm / ANA reporter
Nigerian police have arrested in five people in Abuja for causing a scare over the deadly coronavirus. File picture: AP Photo/Arek Rataj
Pretoria - Nigerian police have arrested in five people in Abuja for causing a scare over the deadly coronavirus.
A Ghana publication reported on Monday that according to the Wuse Zone 3 Divisional Police PRO, Anjuguri Manzal, one of the suspects said that their action was merely a prank about the Coronavirus and was not intended to cause any sort of chaos.
It was said the suspects claimed to be playing out a script about the virus without the knowledge or authorisation of the relevant authorities of the Federal Capital Territory Administration.
Sahara Reports said the suspects went to the Wuse District Hospital claiming that one of them had been infected with Coronavirus.
The incident led to panic and disruption of normal health service delivery at the hospital.
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The suspects were, however, apprehended by police after it was found out that their claim was false.
African News Agency (ANA)
5 arrested in Nigeria for causing chaos after coronavirus 'prank'
Africa / 3 February 2020, 9:55pm / ANA reporter
Nigerian police have arrested in five people in Abuja for causing a scare over the deadly coronavirus. File picture: AP Photo/Arek Rataj
Pretoria - Nigerian police have arrested in five people in Abuja for causing a scare over the deadly coronavirus.
A Ghana publication reported on Monday that according to the Wuse Zone 3 Divisional Police PRO, Anjuguri Manzal, one of the suspects said that their action was merely a prank about the Coronavirus and was not intended to cause any sort of chaos.
It was said the suspects claimed to be playing out a script about the virus without the knowledge or authorisation of the relevant authorities of the Federal Capital Territory Administration.
Sahara Reports said the suspects went to the Wuse District Hospital claiming that one of them had been infected with Coronavirus.
The incident led to panic and disruption of normal health service delivery at the hospital.
Related Articles
The suspects were, however, apprehended by police after it was found out that their claim was false.
African News Agency (ANA)
Intestinal Fortitude
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and maybe the smog levels in China will improve /sarc
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
Good point! Now they can meet those pesky CO2 limits the rest of us are trying for!! Excellent!! Someone call GRETA
Chance
Veteran Member
Saw this article a couple of weeks ago. Wonder if this has anything to do with the weaponized coronavirus....
Basically, idiots are guarding these BSL-4 Labs!
A researcher with ties to China was recently escorted out of the National Microbiology Lab (NML) in Winnipeg amid an RCMP investigation into what's being described as a possible "policy breach."
Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, her husband Keding Cheng and an unknown number of her students from China were removed from Canada's only level-4 lab on July 5, CBC News has learned.
A Level 4 virology facility is a lab equipped to work with the most serious and deadly human and animal diseases. That makes the Arlington Street lab one of only a handful in North America capable of handling pathogens requiring the highest level of containment, such as Ebola.
Security access for the couple and the Chinese students was revoked, according to sources who work at the lab and do not want to be identified because they fear consequences for speaking out.
Basically, idiots are guarding these BSL-4 Labs!
A researcher with ties to China was recently escorted out of the National Microbiology Lab (NML) in Winnipeg amid an RCMP investigation into what's being described as a possible "policy breach."
Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, her husband Keding Cheng and an unknown number of her students from China were removed from Canada's only level-4 lab on July 5, CBC News has learned.
A Level 4 virology facility is a lab equipped to work with the most serious and deadly human and animal diseases. That makes the Arlington Street lab one of only a handful in North America capable of handling pathogens requiring the highest level of containment, such as Ebola.
Security access for the couple and the Chinese students was revoked, according to sources who work at the lab and do not want to be identified because they fear consequences for speaking out.
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
Just an FYI, I'm not endorsing this. I would think the better the mask, the better the protection; But still, read the study. Surgical masks are CLEARLY NOT "USELESS"
Surgical masks as good as respirators for flu and respiratory virus protection
The study reported 'no significant difference in the effectiveness' of medical masks vs. N95 respirators for prevention of influenza or other viral respiratory illness.www.sciencedaily.com
Surgical masks as good as respirators for flu and respiratory virus protection
Date: September 3, 2019
Source: UT Southwestern Medical Center
Summary: The study reported 'no significant difference in the effectiveness' of medical masks vs. N95 respirators for prevention of influenza or other viral respiratory illness.
Researchers may finally have an answer in the long-running controversy over whether the common surgical mask is as effective as more expensive respirator-type masks in protecting health care workers from flu and other respiratory viruses.
A study published today in JAMA compared the ubiquitous surgical (or medical) mask, which costs about a dime, to a less commonly used respirator called an N95, which costs around $1. The study reported "no significant difference in the effectiveness" of medical masks vs. N95 respirators for prevention of influenza or other viral respiratory illness.
"This study showed there is no difference in incidence of viral respiratory transmission among health care workers wearing the two types of protection," said Dr. Trish Perl, Chief of UT Southwestern's Division of Infectious Diseases and Geographic Medicine and the report's senior author. "This finding is important from a public policy standpoint because it informs about what should be recommended and what kind of protective apparel should be kept available for outbreaks."
Medical personnel -- in particular nurses, doctors, and others with direct patient contact -- are at risk when treating patients with contagious diseases such as influenza (flu). A large study conducted in a New York hospital system after the 2009 outbreak of H1N1, or swine flu, found almost 30 percent of health care workers in emergency departments contracted the disease themselves, Dr. Perl said.
During that pandemic, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommended using the tighter-fitting N95 respirators, designed to fit closely over the nose and mouth and filter at least 95 percent of airborne particles, rather than the looser-fitting surgical masks routinely worn by health care workers, Dr. Perl said. But some facilities had trouble replenishing N95s as supplies were used.
In addition, there are concerns health care workers might be less vigilant about wearing the N95 respirators since many perceive them to be less comfortable than medical masks, such as making it harder to breathe and being warmer on the wearer's face.
Earlier clinical studies comparing the masks and respirators yielded mixed results, said Dr. Perl, also a Professor of Internal Medicine who holds the Jay P. Sanford Professorship in Infectious Diseases.
The new study was performed at multiple medical settings in seven cities around the country, including Houston, Denver, Washington, and New York, by researchers at the University of Texas, the CDC, Johns Hopkins University, the University of Colorado, Children's Hospital Colorado, the University of Massachusetts, the University of Florida, and several Department of Veterans Affairs hospitals. Researchers collected data during four flu seasons between 2011 and 2015, examining the incidence of flu and acute respiratory illnesses in the almost 2,400 health care workers who completed the study.
The project was funded by the CDC, the Veterans Health Administration, and the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), which is part of the U.S. Health and Human Services Department and was founded in the years after Sept. 11, 2001, to help secure the nation against biological and other threats.
"It was a huge and important study -- the largest ever done on this issue in North America," Dr. Perl said.
In the end, 207 laboratory-confirmed influenza infections occurred in the N95 groups versus 193 among medical mask wearers, according to the report. In addition, there were 2,734 cases of influenza-like symptoms, laboratory-confirmed respiratory illnesses, and acute or laboratory-detected respiratory infections (where the worker may not have felt ill) in the N95 groups, compared with 3,039 such events among medical mask wearers.
"The takeaway is that this study shows one type of protective equipment is not superior to the other," she said. "Facilities have several options to provide protection to their staff -- which include surgical masks -- and can feel that staff are protected from seasonal influenza. Our study supports that in the outpatient setting there was no difference between the tested protections."
Dr. Perl said she expects more studies to arise from the data collected in this report; she now plans to investigate the dynamics of virus transmission to better understand how respiratory viruses are spread.
Yeah... I find all the recent propaganda ( that's what it is ) about how useless masks are very suspect.
If useless, why do doctors and nurses wear them? Why can you be arrested for NOT wearing one in China? Why have they always been effective up until this outbreak?
coalcracker
Veteran Member
Excellent points. Reminds me of a book called, "Inside the Criminal Mind" by Stanton Samenow (1984, revised 2004).
I'll just say this: Any knowledge we have of the psychological behaviors we may face in a SHTF scenario is very valuable information indeed.
Fortunately for us, it is predictable, and we can to some extent plan for it.
I explain it similar, their morals are that if they can take it away from you that, right there,
proves their moral right to have it more than you. Survival of fittest in it's most primal form.
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
I don't know if I can plan for a 1,000 soccer moms charging my home for the last bag of Doritos in existence..... you can try, but I am just not sure it would work.....
Chance
Veteran Member
Apologize if already reported on - this thread is huge. Not keeping up very well. Add this to #7723 post above.
Just now found this:
Did China Steal Coronavirus From Canada And Weaponize It
Chinese Biological Espionage
In March 2019, in mysterious event a shipment of exceptionally virulent viruses from Canada’s NML ended up in China. The event caused a major scandal with Bio-warfare experts questioning why Canada was sending lethal viruses to China. Scientists from NML said the highly lethal viruses were a potential bio-weapon.
Following investigation, the incident was traced to Chinese agents working at NML. Four months later in July 2019, a group of Chinese virologists were forcibly dispatched from the Canadian National Microbiology Laboratory (NML). The NML is Canada’s only level-4 facility and one of only a few in North America equipped to handle the world’s deadliest diseases, including Ebola, SARS, Coronavirus, etc.
Just now found this:
Did China Steal Coronavirus From Canada And Weaponize It
Chinese Biological Espionage
In March 2019, in mysterious event a shipment of exceptionally virulent viruses from Canada’s NML ended up in China. The event caused a major scandal with Bio-warfare experts questioning why Canada was sending lethal viruses to China. Scientists from NML said the highly lethal viruses were a potential bio-weapon.
Following investigation, the incident was traced to Chinese agents working at NML. Four months later in July 2019, a group of Chinese virologists were forcibly dispatched from the Canadian National Microbiology Laboratory (NML). The NML is Canada’s only level-4 facility and one of only a few in North America equipped to handle the world’s deadliest diseases, including Ebola, SARS, Coronavirus, etc.
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Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
Again, I read many pages back that he was evacuated to an isolated island... I would say that scenario is more likely.
Heliobas Disciple
TB Fanatic
As is Germany and the US. I'm not sure where BNO got those numbers but since they said 'good news' and we can all use some (especially after the horrible news about Rush Limbaugh - unrelated but still jolting) I thought I'd post it. Agree with you it has to be off.
HD
Warm Wisconsin
Easy as 3.141592653589..
Marthanoir
TB Fanatic
Heliobas Disciple
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Two different reasons for masks in a pandemic.
Sick people wear them so as not to infect anyone else. They breathe, cough, spray their spit, etc into the mask. That protects people around them, that's why the sick people get the masks when you're waiting at the doctor's office. I think in China they want the potentially sick to wear masks when they go out so they don't spread the disease, not so they won't catch it. Those can be the surgical masks.
The other reason is for health workers to not catch it - they wear the N95's for that. I'm guessing the gov't doesn't want the average Joe/Jane buying up all the masks because they realize there will be shortages and it's more important for doctors, nurses, first responders to have access to them as they are putting their lives on the line to provide care and should be given the best protection they can get.
HD
Chance
Veteran Member
Hope these numbers aren't 'doctored'. THEY hid ebola cases from us several years ago.
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
So that makes 3 weeks before China's economy starts back up. That is going to hurt a lot!! Remember nearly 2% of GDP per week is lost for every week they are shut down.
DazedandConfused
Veteran Member
Helps keep the walkers in.
Ragnarok
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marsh
On TB every waking moment
Wonders how long till these two viruses mutate into one truly lethal virus?
A 'highly pathogenic strain' of H5N1 bird flu has been reported in China's Hunan province
INTL - A 'highly pathogenic strain' of H5N1 bird flu has been reported in China's Hunan province
https://www.msn.com/en-us/Health/health-news/a-highly-pathogenic-strain-of-h5n1-bird-flu-has-been-reported-in-chinas-hunan-province/ar-BBZysUI?ocid=st&fbclid=IwAR2OA9wniaHCpMmhYwRwUBMQ5Bmnn3N6nAVA17ZbGL1UrS0o0zTsIlYtPn4 A 'highly pathogenic strain' of H5N1 bird flu has been reported in China's...xf.timebomb2000.com
Then there is the ferret flu in Peru, which has a case of the virus, as does Ecuador.
Ragnarok
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Leigh19717
Senior Member
She only gets five outs and then she has to take final exams. Even if you have a doctors note it’s only five. She’s a senior if that helps as I would have to tie her up to keep her home.If you are worried... Keep her out for a few days.
Tell them she has the flu...
northern watch
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BNO NewsroomVerified account @BNODesk 6m6 minutes ago
BNO Newsroom Retweeted BNO Newsroom
The number of people in serious and critical condition in Hubei province has risen significantly, now at 2,143. That's up from 1,562 yesterday.
BNO Newsroom Retweeted BNO Newsroom
The number of people in serious and critical condition in Hubei province has risen significantly, now at 2,143. That's up from 1,562 yesterday.
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
IIRC, that happened with SARS, too...
You got sick, then felt better for about 3 days and then relapsed with the symptoms twice as bad as the initial...
northern watch
TB Fanatic
BNO NewsroomVerified account @BNODesk now26 seconds ago
Coronavirus update: - 19,843 confirmed cases worldwide - 21,558 suspected cases - 426 fatalities - 2,654 in serious/critical condition - 576 recovered in China - Vast majority of cases in China - 24 countries reporting cases
Coronavirus update: - 19,843 confirmed cases worldwide - 21,558 suspected cases - 426 fatalities - 2,654 in serious/critical condition - 576 recovered in China - Vast majority of cases in China - 24 countries reporting cases
northern watch
TB Fanatic
CTV NewsVerified account @CTVNews 49m49 minutes ago
Italians, Poles quarantined after coming back from China
Italians, Poles quarantined after coming back from China
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
Seeker22
Has No Life - Lives on TB
What do you want me to call her and how...er...creative can I be?
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
I never understood that... It might be very important information but because it bothers you, you don't post it?
northern watch
TB Fanatic
Aki Heikkinen @akihheikkinen 7h7 hours ago
Coronavirus: Chinese military takes control of medical supplies in Wuhan
Coronavirus: Chinese military takes control of medical supplies in Wuhan
northern watch
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(((Henry L Niman PhD))) @hniman 27s27 seconds ago
Hubei nCoV Confirmed Cases Increase To 13,522 - Deaths To 414 DETAIL 1567 cases of severe illness and 576 cases of critical illness 396 cases have been discharged from hospital and 414 have died
Hubei nCoV Confirmed Cases Increase To 13,522 - Deaths To 414 DETAIL 1567 cases of severe illness and 576 cases of critical illness 396 cases have been discharged from hospital and 414 have died
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
Ask her how much difference there is between the conditions in China and the conditions in Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, etc.
Chance
Veteran Member
This city is in Zhejiang province - the BIG phramaceutical hub of China. Yikes!!!!
Home of Zhejian Pharmaceutical. Zjekoamg Warrant Pharmaceutical, Zhejiang Huahai Pharmaceutical, Zjeokoamg Zhejiang Zhenyuan Pharmaceutical, Zhejiang Tianyu Pharmaceutical, Zhejiang Hisoar Pharmaceutical, Raybow Pharmaceutical, Huahai - these are TOP China pharmaceutical companies.
These manufacture anti-microbials, antivirals, cardiovascular drugs, opthalmic drugs, NSAIDs, psychiatric drugs, conduct LOTS of R & D, manufacture ingredients that other pharmaceutical companies around the world purchase to manufacture their drugs; they manufacture nutritional supplements, anti-anaerobic drugs, peptide drugs....
Once this province shuts down like Hubei (where Wuhan is located) these drugs companies will be shuttered.
123 new confirmed cases by 1/29....
123 new coronavirus cases reported in Zhejiang
East China's Zhejiang province reported 123 new confirmed cases of novel coronavirus as of midnight on Jan 28, bringing the total number of confirmed cases in the province to 296.
www.chinadaily.com.cn
STOCK UP ON WHAT YOU NEED....REFILLS, OVER THE COUNTER MEDS, ETC. WHATEVER IS MADE IN CHINA....GET IT BEFORE THEY SHUT DOWN OR THE INFECTED STUFF GETS HERE.
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Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
Woooo-Boy... This could be the real beginning in the U.S...