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China Connection

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How to last food wise when things collapse



I will try to keep this simple. Say you live in China in a small countryside house with a tiny yard. What do you do?

You keep a few chickens and grow greens.

You then buy rice. Rice provides you with energy to do things.

A couple of eggs provide you with amino acids needed to function. Greens, however, can do the job by themselves. Fodder crops do just this.

Greens provide minerals and vitamins.

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Say everything shuts down for something like economic collapse or war.



The Supermarkets close. You run out of rice for energy.

If you have bulk coconut oil stockpiled you are in luck!


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These foods are the richest in medium-chain triglycerides, shown as the percentage of fatty acids that are MCTs (2): Coconut oil: Greater than 60%. Palm kernel oil: Greater than 50%.May 21, 2016
MCT Oil 101 - A Review of Medium-Chain Triglycerides - Healthline
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/mct-oil-101

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Unlocking the power of MCT oils
28th Jun 2018 by Niulife

From accelerating cognitive and muscle performance, to balancing your gut, enhancing your immunity, and assisting with weight loss and stamina, MCT Oils are rapidly becoming the go-to, natural power fuel.

MCTs, or Medium Chain Triglycerides, are a form of saturated fatty acids commonly found in coconut and palm oils. Unlike the more slowly digested Long Chain Triglycerides (LCTs) that require bile to be processed, MCTs rapidly convert to ketones in the liver.

Your body cells can be fuelled either by ketones (derived from quality fats) or by glucose (derived from carbohydrate and sugar).

In most western diets, our primary fuel source is glucose, a simple sugar metabolised from carbohydrates. Excess energy from carbs is stored as fat, which can lead to weight gain and other health issues.

The normal way that your body makes ketones is through a process called ketosis. Ketosis is a natural fat-burning process where your body metabolises fats for energy when glucose isn’t readily available. This is the basis of any reduced-calorie diet which tells your body to burn fat when it has used up whatever food you have eaten.

Lowering the in-take of carbs and replacing them with quality fats causes the body to activate ketosis and to start using fat that is being eaten as well as fat stored in the body for energy. Another reason MCTs are amazing is that they are converted into ketones even if your body has not gone into ketosis. This is a big deal because consuming MCTs can help kick start your body’s adaptation to preferentially using fats instead of carbs for energy.

In addition to reprogramming the body to burn fat, and being anti-inflammatory, MCTs can help support good gut health by reducing carb and sugar intake that feeds bad microbes which cause belly bloat and candida.


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How much virgin coconut oil should I take?

Researchers state that the optimal adult consumption of coconut oil is approximately 50mls (2-3 tablespoons) per day.


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What is the shelf life of extra virgin coconut oil?

Our DME extra virgin coconut oil has an almost indefinite shelf life when kept in a dry cool place out of direct sunlight.

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So this means if you are stuck you could survive on 350mls of coconut oil a week plus greens.
 
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Giblin

Veteran Member
I have peanut butter and crackers as a staple with my garden and can goods preps as a plus.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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I disagree with keeping rice. What's the point, other than carbs. It's virtually void of nutrition.

It's filling, it stores fairly well (although it goes rancid easier than people think. However, properly packaged, it keeps a long time), it's cheap, it tends to be easily digestible for small children or sick folk, and *it's calories.*

In a SHTF situation, you may be able to catch (snares or a baited hook... do NOT try that unless the rule of law goes away!) birds, squirrels, rabbits or other small game. All well and good if you are alone (maybe), but there's not much meat on any of them. However, cook it up, make some gravy from the browned bits, serve it over a coupke cups of cooked rice with a salat of greens from the yard or hedgerow, and you'll be full and with decent (not ideal) nutrition.

Definitely have plans to supplement vitamins in case you end up having to rely on stored food.

Summerthyme
 

China Connection

TB Fanatic
Rice provided energy in the Chinese diet. They get the rest of what they need nearly all from greens.


The point I am making is that coconut oil will store in a small space and not get eaten like rice and keep for years without refrigeration.


Say someone harvested and stole your root vegetable crop. How long would it be before you could get another crop up?


Most of this coconut oil is going to provide you with energy. Say you bought 20 liters. You could get three weeks energy needs out of each liter. This means 60 weeks.

Greens are easy to grow and quick.
 

Bardou

Veteran Member
I disagree with keeping rice. What's the point, other than carbs. It's virtually void of nutrition.

100% correct, probably one of the worse foods anyone could eat. Rice will immediately turn to sugar in your blood stream, it has zero fiber. You may as well take a bowl of sugar and start eating that. I'd say beans are a good choice, high in fiber, and low on the glycemic scale. It's packed with vitamins and minerals. Par boil them on top of a propane stove, set lid ajar for gas to escape. This is the fast method to cooking beans. Peanut Butter is also a good prep to have, you can live on peanut butter.
 

Thinwater

Firearms Manufacturer
Since the question included the power going off right away you would not have to concentrate on things that store for 25 years since you would have to start eating right away. With that in mind, a mix of canned, boxed and dried foods of all types would be appropriate. Basically anything you eat now that does not have to be kept cold.


I keep a lot of cans and have to rotate them by donating to food banks because I don't eat that much canned stuff. I keep a lot of rice also. The plan is if SHTF, any thing eaten will be eaten over a bed of rice to make it go farther. I keep a stack of canned chicken and eat some every week. Pour Texas Pete on it and eat right out of the can. Call it Buffalo Chicken Chunks.

Rice by itself would be bad, but if you bag a rabbit or whatever, it can stretch it into a filling meal. I just fill 1 gallon Mylar bags with rice, drop in an oxygen absorber, then freeze it in the deep freeze for a week to make sure anything in the rice is dead. Once it thaws and dry, I stack it in food grade plastic buckets with gamma lids to protect the mylar.

I keep a few dozen cases of Mountain House and Wise freeze dried tucked away just in case I am low on canned stuff when TEOTWAWKI hit. If I thought the S would HTF really soon, I would not buy more of this because being able to store it for decades would be moot.
 

hardrock

Veteran Member
Rice provided energy in the Chinese diet. They get the rest of what they need nearly all from greens.


The point I am making is that coconut oil will store in a small space and not get eaten like rice and keep for years without refrigeration.


Say someone harvested and stole your root vegetable crop. How long would it be before you could get another crop up?


Most of this coconut oil is going to provide you with energy. Say you bought 20 liters. You could get three weeks energy needs out of each liter. This means 60 weeks.

Greens are easy to grow and quick.

Just off hand, if your stuff gets stolen, if you can't steal more, you are done. Plant more and they will wait until you do the work then steal it again. Your food cache is to keep you alive while everyone else dies. Protect it because your life(and your loved ones) depend on it.
 

Taz

Deceased
RICE is the MOTHER of meal extenders. I use lots of it and I store lots of it. There are so many meals that can be made adding rice. Even extend soups.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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Store bacon & ham....

On the hoof.



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Coco82919

Veteran Member
Peanut butter is good. However, it is not a complete protein. I think it is missing 2 essential amino acids. Amino acids are molecules that form a protein. You can live on this for awhile, but you need complete proteins. Beans and corn or beans and rice make a complete protein.

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Main articles: protein (nutrient) and protein combining

A complete protein or whole protein is a food source of protein that contains an adequate proportion of each of the nine essential amino acids necessary in the human diet.[1] Examples of single-source complete proteins are red meat, poultry, fish, eggs, milk, cheese, yogurt, soybeans and quinoa.[2][3][4] The concept does not include whether or not the food source is high in total protein, or any other information about that food's nutritious value.

It was once thought that plant sources of protein are deficient in one or more amino acids, and so vegetarian diets had to specifically combine foods during meals, which would create a complete protein. However, the most recent position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics is that protein from a variety of plant foods eaten during the course of a day supplies enough essential amino acids when caloric requirements are met.[5] Normal physiological functioning of the body is possible if one obtains enough protein and sufficient amounts of each amino acid from a plant-based diet.[6] In fact, the highest PDCAAS scores are not given to commonly eaten meat products, but rather to animal-derived vegetarian foods like milk and eggs and the vegan food soy protein isolate.


10 Complete Proteins Vegans Need to Know About




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December 22, 2017 | By Nick English

There are plenty of reasons to eat more meat-free meals: They’re nearly always cheaper, lower in calories, and better for the environment. It’s easy to get enough protein without eating animals, but the doubters often have another concern: Are these meat-free protein sources complete?

The term "complete protein" refers to amino acids, the building blocks of protein. There are 20 different amino acids that can form a protein, and nine that the body can’t produce on its own. These are called essential amino acids—we need to eat them because we can’t make them ourselves. In order to be considered “complete,” a protein must contain all nine of these essential amino acids in roughly equal amounts.

Yes, meat and eggs are complete proteins, and beans and nuts aren’t. But humans don’t need every essential amino acid in every bite of food in every meal they eat; we only need a sufficient amount of each amino acid every day . Most dietitians believe that plant-based diets contain such a wide variety of amino acid profiles that vegans are virtually guaranteed to get all of their amino acids with very little effort .

Still, some people want complete proteins in all of their meals. No problem—meat’s not the only contender. Eggs and dairy also fit the bill, which is an easy get for the vegetarians, but there are plenty of other ways to get complete proteins on your next meatless Monday. Here are some of the easiest:

1. Quinoa

Protein: 8 grams per 1 cup serving, cooked

A food so healthy that NASA hopes we’ll grow it on interplanetary space flights, quinoa looks a lot like couscous, but it’s way more nutritious. Full of fiber, iron, magnesium, and manganese, quinoa is a terrific substitute for rice and it’s versatile enough to make muffins, fritters, cookies, and breakfast casseroles

2. Buckwheat

Protein: 6 grams per 1 cup serving, cooked

Buckwheat is, in fact, not a type of wheat at all, but a relative of rhubarb. While the Japanese have turned the plant into funky noodles called soba, most cultures eat the seeds by either grinding them into flour (making a great base for gluten-free pancakes!) or cooking the hulled kernels, or “groats,” similarly to oatmeal. Buckwheat is crazy healthy: Some studies have shown that it may improve circulation, lower blood cholesterol and control blood glucose levels

3. Soy

Protein: 10 grams per ½ cup serving (firm tofu), 15 grams per ½ cup serving (tempeh), 15 grams per ½ cup serving (natto)

While beans are normally low in the amino acid methionine, soy is a complete protein and thoroughly deserves its status as the go-to substitute for the meat-free (but go easy on the processed varieties). Tempeh and natto are made by fermenting the beans, but tofu is probably the best known soy product. If protein’s a concern, it’s important to choose the firmest tofu available—the harder the tofu, the higher the protein content.

4. Mycoprotein (Quorn)

Protein: 13 grams per ½ cup serving

Originally developed to combat global food shortages, mycoprotein is sold under the name “Quorn” and is made by growing a certain kind of fungus in vats and turning it into meat substitutes that are packed with complete protein. Admittedly, it’s a little weird-sounding, but mycoprotein is sometimes considered part of the mushroom family, and while there are some allergen concerns, only one in 146,000 people experience adverse reactions. To the rest, it’s pretty darn tasty. Since it’s usually bound together with free range egg whites, Quorn is not technically vegan-friendly, but the company does have some vegan products.

5. Rice and Beans

Protein: 7 grams per 1 cup serving

One of the simplest, cheapest, and vegan-est meals in existence is also one of the best sources of protein around. Most beans are low in methionine and high in lysine, while rice is low in lysine and high in methionine. Put ‘em together, and whaddaya got? Protein content on par with that of meat. Subbing lentils or chickpeas for beans produces the same effect. These meals are a great way to load up on protein and carbohydrates after an intense workout.

. Ezekiel Bread

Protein: 8 grams per 2 slice serving

“Take wheat, barley, beans, lentils, millet, and spelt, put them in one vessel and make them into bread for yourself.” This fragment of Ezekiel 4:9, while initially intended to help a besieged Jerusalem make bread when supplies were low, turned out to be a recipe for an extraordinarily nutritious loaf that contains all of the essential amino acids. It’s also usually made from sprouted grains, a process which significantly increases the bread’s fiber and vitamin content, as well as its digestibility

7. Seitan

Protein: 21 grams per 1/3 cup serving

Wheat gluten gets demonized by a lot of people these days, but with the obvious exceptions of celiac-sufferers and the gluten intolerant, it’s nothing to be afraid of. First created more than a thousand years ago as a meat substitute for Chinese Buddhist monks, seitan is made by mixing gluten (the protein in wheat) with herbs and spices, hydrating it with water or stock, and simmering it in broth. But this one’s not complete on it’s own—it needs to be cooked in a soy sauce-rich broth to add gluten’s missing amino acid (lysine) to the chewy, very meat-like final product.

8. Hummus and Pita

Protein: 7 grams per 1 whole-wheat pita and 2 tablespoons of hummus

The protein in wheat is pretty similar to that of rice, in that it’s only deficient in lysine. But chickpeas have plenty of lysine, giving us all the more reason to tuck into that Middle Eastern staple: hummus and pita. Chickpeas have a pretty similar amino acid profile to most legumes, so don’t’ be afraid to experiment with hummus made from cannellini, edamame, or other kinds of beans.

9. Spirulina With Grains or Nuts

Protein: 4 grams per 1 tablespoon

Contrary to popular belief, this member of the algae family is not a complete protein, since it’s lacking in methionine and cysteine . All that’s needed to remedy this is to add something with plenty of these amino acids, such as grains, oats, nuts, or seeds (Check out the recipes below for more suggestions.).

10. Peanut Butter Sandwich

​Protein: 15 grams per 2-slice sandwich with 2 tablespoons of peanut butter

See how easy this is? Every time legumes like beans, lentils, and peanuts are combined with grains like wheat, rice, and corn, a complete protein is born. Peanut butter on whole wheat is an easy snack that, while pretty high in calories, provides a heaping dose of all the essential amino acids and plenty of healthy fats to boot.

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vestige

Deceased
Store bacon & ham....

On the hoof.



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Amen... and various other meats.

Game would get thinned in time but it would never disappear.

Fish traps baited with soured grains work like a charm. Illegal as hell but when you are really hungry game laws become somewhat irrelevant. On your own land even more so.

Poacher 101
 

Coco82919

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Is Peanut Butter a Complete Protein?
Rebecca Slayton
Protein is an essential nutrient that your body needs. Your body is constantly breaking down proteins in your cells, organs and tissues. Protein from the food you eat, breaks down into amino acids that replace proteins in your body. A complete protein contains all the essential amino acids your body needs to stay healthy. While peanut butter is an excellent source of protein, it is not a complete protein.





Complete Protein
Amino acids are known as the building blocks of life. Growth and repair of the body requires the availability and utilization of amino acids. Your body needs a combination of 21 amino acids to stay healthy. While your body can manufacture some of the amino acids it needs, your diet must supply others, which are classified as essential amino acids. A complete protein contains all nine of the essential amino acids. All animal products contain every essential amino acid, while plant products generally lack one or more.



Incomplete Protein
When a protein lacks one or more of the nine essential amino acids, it is known as an incomplete protein. Peanut butter lacks the essential amino acid methionine but is high in lysine. All plant-based proteins are incomplete protein sources except for soy and quinoa. You can still obtain all the essential amino acids even if you do not consume complete proteins by combining more than one plant-based protein within a 24-hour period. For example, if you consume peanut butter with a grain, such as bread, you're consuming all nine essential amino acids you need for the day.

While peanut butter does not contain all nine essential amino acids to make it a complete protein, it does supply essential nutrients such as dietary fiber, vitamins and minerals. Peanut butter also contains healthy fats, such as monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats, which your body needs to stay healthy. Peanut butter is still an excellent source of protein. Two tablespoons contain 8 grams of protein, which is about 16 percent of the amount of protein you need daily. Approximately 10 to 35 percent of your daily caloric intake should come from protein, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.



Considerations
You do not have to consume essential amino acids at every meal as long as you get a balance of all nine throughout the day. Since peanut butter is such an excellent source of protein and other nutrients, try making it part of your diet despite it not being a complete protein. While peanut butter lacks three essential amino acids, you can obtain those amino acids in other foods such as grains or animal products. To get all your essential amino acids in your diet, you need to consume complementary foods -- but not necessarily at the same time. When you consume these foods throughout the day, you are getting all the essential amino acids your body needs to stay healthy.
 

Illini Warrior

Illini Warrior
interesting that you should concentrate on cooking oil >>> a newbie on another prepper site was asking how to preserve the oil and what to expect ....

in the US we have more access to freezing than most other parts of the world - and veggie oil (corn, soybean and sunflower) are all relatively cheap - likewise with 1lb packs to 5 gallon buckets of lard >>>> if froze in a long term container the longevity buried in the bottom of a freezer is decades - and if the grid goes down the clock begins on the open shelf life - before rancid sets in - is several years ....
 

China Connection

TB Fanatic
Yep, when you think of it, it is the way to go with preps.


One can keep this anywhere in storage. Dig it up at a later date and go for it.


Potato and sweet potato take some time to grow and can be stolen. Greens can be picked year round. Sure one might need different greens for summer and winter but that is all.

I don't like my chances with keeping the chickens for long after a crash.
 

Luddite

Veteran Member
MW and Vestige are both correct about the pork in the pasture. Wild or domestic. A domestic pig has huge amount of usable fat that normally gets wasted. In a grid down environment, even the leaner wild hogs could have many weeks worth of lard to be rendered. My Grandmother would be given a lard sandwich sprinkled with brown sugar for a snack years ago.
(She lived to be 99, had her own teeth too. Could walk miles in her early 90s)

I store rice but eat little now. Carbs will be coveted with increased manual labor.
Huge amounts of firewood here would allow an outside fire for cooked rice for a supplement to hog and chicken feed.

To answer the specific OP question: Store MORE of what you eat NOW. Rotate to prevent out-of-date loss. Once you're racing with the expiration dates, look to store some longer shelf-life items.

Wasting food shouldn't happen with chickens. They'll eat about anything. Convert any questionable foods into eggs through a chicken.

BTW, if you live in an environment where keeping a few chickens isn't allowed or possible, it would be futile to store too much. Planning to stay there in a grid down reality won't work long-term. Long-term for any of us in a grid down might mean months. Surviving weeks in an urban environment might be stretching it...
 

Mark D

Now running for Emperor.
SALT: try a week or two without it (you won't be doing too well)
SUGAR: Sucanat/Coconut/Palm/Turbinado take you pick, just keep all of the natural nutrition that gets bleached out of modern sugar. Tons and tons of calories that you will be needing.

GRAINS
Quinoa: all the amino acids you need
Millet: easily digested, great flour, pleasant taste
Sorghum: makes awesome flour

BEANS
Black-eyed Peas: easy to digest protein
Pinto Beans: easy to digest protein
Lentils: a little harder to digest, but TONS of protein

LUXURY
Dried Fruit: a treat that stores for a LONG time
SPICES: makes anything taste better
Coffee: enough said
Booze: concentrated calories, and a legitimate medicinal if you stock the right stuff
Coconut Oil: won't go rancid like all of the liquid oils
Evaporated Milk/Coconut Milk: shelf stable milk for all manner of uses
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
China, I thought you were going eat worms and/or fly larvae.

As for the rest of it, peanut butter -- as mentioned -- along with Chunky Soup has kept many college students going for a week or longer. If you insist, Chunky Soup can be eaten cold, but it reheats easily with minimal fuel. Add a few boxes of energy bars, crackers, oat meal, and coffee, if you want.
 

Breeta

Veteran Member
i’m diabetic so no rice for me!
peanut butter, mct oil. bacon bits. spam. garden veggies. if i only had an avocado tree i’d really be set!
 

Illini Warrior

Illini Warrior
unfortunately part of my "last minute" planning suffered a recent hit - a local egg ranch had a fire and lost 50,000 layers >>>> with proper advance supply & plan you can bulk store eggs for up to 9 months - had plans to buy 100 dozen right off the "nest" ....

another "last minute" was also a local farm purchase of potatoes - with correct storage conditions they can cold storage for months on end - other root type veggies are similar in nature ....
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
SALT: try a week or two without it (you won't be doing too well)
SUGAR: Sucanat/Coconut/Palm/Turbinado take you pick, just keep all of the natural nutrition that gets bleached out of modern sugar. Tons and tons of calories that you will be needing.

GRAINS
Quinoa: all the amino acids you need
Millet: easily digested, great flour, pleasant taste
Sorghum: makes awesome flour

BEANS
Black-eyed Peas: easy to digest protein
Pinto Beans: easy to digest protein
Lentils: a little harder to digest, but TONS of protein

LUXURY
Dried Fruit: a treat that stores for a LONG time
SPICES: makes anything taste better
Coffee: enough said
Booze: concentrated calories, and a legitimate medicinal if you stock the right stuff
Coconut Oil: won't go rancid like all of the liquid oils
Evaporated Milk/Coconut Milk: shelf stable milk for all manner of uses

Best part about sugar, last I knew, is that it never goes bad unless it gets wet.
 

Bubble Head

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Soup made with anything I can throw in it providing the source is edible. We keep a large selection of dried herbs on hand to make chipmunk taste good.
 

rafter

Since 1999
I live blocks from Mo. largest lake, and feet from a good sized pond with fish in it as well, so I'm guessing I will fish a lot and fill in with all the canned and dry stuff I have while waiting to grow another garden.
 

mudlogger

Veteran Member
Check out any local food suppliers (USA foods is local to me, for example) and restaurant supply businesses. I'm getting 50 lbs of coconut for soap making from one and only paying about $65. This is not organic, but for soap or starvation, I don't care.

I've actually gotten gallons of coconut from Prime for a good price, but that was a year ago. Don't know about now. It was running about 16 a gallon, free shipping.

Husband was mentioning oil the other day, and I told him how many hundreds of pounds I have. No worries.
 

PghPanther

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Cans of water packed dark tuna (not the albacore as it has too much mercury).

Cans of green beans........and bags of Long grain brown rice..........(has nutrition and fiber)

Whole oats....

A good supply of clean water

I can literally eat tuna and green beans with brown rice...for two meals

And plain uncooked oats in soaked in water........as a breakfast..

and still keep all my weight lifting lean muscle mass in good shape and health.

Its not a good long term diet but you can survive on that for months before ever needing anything else......
 

GammaRat

Veteran Member
A couple bags of potatoes in a dark cool closet.

They're the first thing you can plant. They have a very good yield.

And the Irish have actually survived on them "the potato famine"
 

mecoastie

Veteran Member
How to last food wise when things collapse



I will try to keep this simple. Say you live in China in a small countryside house with a tiny yard. What do you do?

You keep a few chickens and grow greens.

You then buy rice. Rice provides you with energy to do things.

A couple of eggs provide you with amino acids needed to function. Greens, however, can do the job by themselves. Fodder crops do just this.

Greens provide minerals and vitamins.

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Say everything shuts down for something like economic collapse or war.



The Supermarkets close. You run out of rice for energy.

If you have bulk coconut oil stockpiled you are in luck!


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These foods are the richest in medium-chain triglycerides, shown as the percentage of fatty acids that are MCTs (2): Coconut oil: Greater than 60%. Palm kernel oil: Greater than 50%.May 21, 2016
MCT Oil 101 - A Review of Medium-Chain Triglycerides - Healthline
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/mct-oil-101

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Unlocking the power of MCT oils
28th Jun 2018 by Niulife

From accelerating cognitive and muscle performance, to balancing your gut, enhancing your immunity, and assisting with weight loss and stamina, MCT Oils are rapidly becoming the go-to, natural power fuel.

MCTs, or Medium Chain Triglycerides, are a form of saturated fatty acids commonly found in coconut and palm oils. Unlike the more slowly digested Long Chain Triglycerides (LCTs) that require bile to be processed, MCTs rapidly convert to ketones in the liver.

Your body cells can be fuelled either by ketones (derived from quality fats) or by glucose (derived from carbohydrate and sugar).

In most western diets, our primary fuel source is glucose, a simple sugar metabolised from carbohydrates. Excess energy from carbs is stored as fat, which can lead to weight gain and other health issues.

The normal way that your body makes ketones is through a process called ketosis. Ketosis is a natural fat-burning process where your body metabolises fats for energy when glucose isn’t readily available. This is the basis of any reduced-calorie diet which tells your body to burn fat when it has used up whatever food you have eaten.

Lowering the in-take of carbs and replacing them with quality fats causes the body to activate ketosis and to start using fat that is being eaten as well as fat stored in the body for energy. Another reason MCTs are amazing is that they are converted into ketones even if your body has not gone into ketosis. This is a big deal because consuming MCTs can help kick start your body’s adaptation to preferentially using fats instead of carbs for energy.

In addition to reprogramming the body to burn fat, and being anti-inflammatory, MCTs can help support good gut health by reducing carb and sugar intake that feeds bad microbes which cause belly bloat and candida.


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How much virgin coconut oil should I take?

Researchers state that the optimal adult consumption of coconut oil is approximately 50mls (2-3 tablespoons) per day.


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What is the shelf life of extra virgin coconut oil?

Our DME extra virgin coconut oil has an almost indefinite shelf life when kept in a dry cool place out of direct sunlight.

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So this means if you are stuck you could survive on 350mls of coconut oil a week plus greens.

Do a test for us. Live for 2 weeks on just 700 mls of coconut oil and greens and report back as to how you are doing.
 

Stanb999

Inactive
Store meat in dried or canned form, organ meats are cheap and very high in nutrient. Also nuts, nut butter, and don't forget mushrooms. No soy unless you want your men to have tits. Store enough so you can get 15-20% of your calories from protein

Coconut oil is a good one. But you can add butter, lard, tallow, or goose. Avoid vegetable oils if at all possible. You want at least 40% of your calories from fat.

And for carbs, fiber, and a few vitamins.

300 pounds of hydroponic nutrient and a pound or two of seed will feed you the rest of your life. The seed should be refreshed every year. The nutrient will last forever if kept moderately protected. Seed types, greens should be water cress, kale, Swiss chard, and Bok choy. All are very easy to grow provide great nutrient and are also very easy to save seed from. If your feeling particularly adventurous get yourself some neonicotinoid spray. It will make bugs a thing of the past and a gallon will also last the rest of your life feeding a group of 20 or so.


You need at least 5 pounds of salt per person, per year. Salt is cheap and doesn't go bad. So by a few hundred pounds.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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A couple bags of potatoes in a dark cool closet.

They're the first thing you can plant. They have a very good yield.

And the Irish have actually survived on them "the potato famine"

Plus, while not ideal, you can either peel them deeply or cut out the groups of eyes with an inch chunk of potato attached, use that to plant your new crop, and eat the rest.

Ideally, you want a 2 ounce seed potato (or piece). But unless conditions are bad, you can plant smaller chunks and get a good crop.

Summerthyme
 

coalcracker

Veteran Member
i’m diabetic so no rice for me!
peanut butter, mct oil. bacon bits. spam. garden veggies. if i only had an avocado tree i’d really be set!

You may not use insulin, but for diabetics who do, there is a product that keeps insulin cold without ice or refrigeration. Perfect for grid down scenario:

https://www.adwdiabetes.com/product/7704/frio-individual-cooler-wallet-burgundy?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIu67-0Meu3wIVipyzCh3b1Qh8EAQYBSABEgJyrvD_BwE
NOTE: link is for the pen. Company has larger products for vials.

Product Description
The FRIO® Individual Insulin Cooler Wallet (Burgundy) keeps your insulin cool and safe. It's activated by cold water only - no refrigeration or ice needed!

Available in Blue, Burgundy, and Black colors.

To activate your FRIO wallet, simply immerse it in water for 15 minutes prior to using it. Most diabetic nurses and doctors advise keeping insulin cool to maintain its effectiveness. Your FRIO insulated wallet will keep your insulin cool for a minimum of 45 hours.

Keep Insulin cool and safe
Activated by cold water only
No refrigeration or ice needed
Light and compact
Reusable
FRÍO® - HOW IT WORKS

To activate your Frio Wallet, it is simply immersed in cold water for 5-15 minutes (depending upon the size). Crystals contained in the panels of the Wallet then expand into a gel-like substance, and remains in this form for several days. Once sufficiently activated, remove from water and wrap in a towel to absorb excess water. Remove from towel (your Frío is now dry to the touch) and let your Frío lay on a surface to begin to air dry for a minimum of 20 minutes (longer is possible). After air-drying, (air-drying is a very important step) the wallet can be placed into the Cambrelle™ cover and your medication inserted. The crystals contained in the panels of the wallet expand into a gel form, which remains cool for several days relying on the process of evaporation for cooling.

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As for last minute shopping, you know, the day before SHTF, I have the acquisition of protein as a priority. Stick pepperoni, laced with unhealthy nitrates as preservatives, will store well, taste good, and provide protein. At that point the nitrates will be welcome rather than shunned.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
If the Supermarkets closed tomorrow and the power went off what would be the best food to have stored?


You asked for the 'best' food to be stored and not necessarily the most affordable. The best by far if price is no object is Mountain House freeze dried in #10 cans. 25 year shelf life and the best from all that I have tasted over the years and I've tasted plenty. I have a number of cases of MH as part of my preps along with a ton of other food [literally] and you can always use rice and other starches as an extender to the Mountain House to keep the portion size a little more affordable. You can stretch even a single can of MH dinner [such as beef stroganoff] by having a bed of rice on the plate and putting a scoop of the beef stroganoff over the top of it and then season to taste.
 
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