ALERT Regional middleast war thread Israel and Iran at war
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I find it hard to believe Israel is holding back over FJB. If they understand what FJB is doing and has done with our borders … he’s not for America and our safety, much less the world.
Biden patting the terrorists backs saying good boy … but stop … and israel … you stop or we won’t help you the next time. Just gives FJB more time to steal from us and get his army in place here. Also an election year.
It has nothing to do with “stopping WWIII. THEY … HE … want it …. only when convenient for him.
Biden patting the terrorists backs saying good boy … but stop … and israel … you stop or we won’t help you the next time. Just gives FJB more time to steal from us and get his army in place here. Also an election year.
It has nothing to do with “stopping WWIII. THEY … HE … want it …. only when convenient for him.
Bibi is a politician, politics is as much gathering support as anything else.
In this case the one who could approve or not the US military is headed by the Biden crime family, the shadow government is headed by Obama.
In this case the Biden crime families interest of keeping a lid on oil price inflation and preventing price shocks before November align with Obama’s outright support of Iran spreading muslim terrorism.
The US jewish community is torn between their weak vague support of Israel and their support of US progressive politics with the progressive’s all in love of Palestinian causes of any type.
Israel has no support for massive retaliation and these interests will likely lower the heat in the middle east IF Iran doesn’t mis-read events and take this as a green light for further attacks.
The can gets kicked down the road, until it runs out of road.
In this case the one who could approve or not the US military is headed by the Biden crime family, the shadow government is headed by Obama.
In this case the Biden crime families interest of keeping a lid on oil price inflation and preventing price shocks before November align with Obama’s outright support of Iran spreading muslim terrorism.
The US jewish community is torn between their weak vague support of Israel and their support of US progressive politics with the progressive’s all in love of Palestinian causes of any type.
Israel has no support for massive retaliation and these interests will likely lower the heat in the middle east IF Iran doesn’t mis-read events and take this as a green light for further attacks.
The can gets kicked down the road, until it runs out of road.
colonel holman
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and now, back to our regularly-scheduled programing
rob0126
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Moron.
Aᴍɪʀ
@AmirIGM
The US is telling Israel to "take the win". Iran is claiming 'Operation True Promise' was a success.
In reality, both sides can claim victory in their own ways.
A thread
Israel's "win" was military-technical in nature. It claims to have destroyed all drones and cruise missiles, while intercepting most - but not all - ballistic missiles.
Israel has one of if not the densest and most advanced anti-ballistic missile coverage in the world.
It's also known that the US Navy helped Israel intercept some ballistic missiles, and aircraft from the US, Israel, Jordan, and France participated in intercepting drones and cruise missiles over Iraq and Jordan.
A vast effort.
View attachment 470186
Crucially, some ballistic missiles got through and struck Nevatim airbase.
From Iran's perspective, last night was a political success. Why? Well, Iran's objective was to restore deterrence following Israel's bombing of Iran's consulate in Syria.
View: https://twitter.com/AmirIGM/status/1779433687790030874
It's impossible to argue that Iran did not achieve that. Israel has been attacking Iranian targets in Syria for ~10 years, and Iran turned the other cheek. This time, Iran launched a large retaliation that required the US to pull in multiple allies operating over foreign airspace
Israel did not fight this attack on its own. It did it with the help of the US Air Force, US Navy, French Air Force, Royal Air Force, and Jordanian Air Force. All flying mainly in other countries outside Israel.
All because Israel bombed a consulate, against int'l law.
View: https://twitter.com/AmirIGM/status/1779433691820806234
Iran was well aware that Israel would enlist foreign help, and this actually played into Iran's hands. It meant that Iran could launch a larger, more politically significant attack without causing heavy damage that could potentially cause escalation.
This strike served to demonstrate that Iran has the capability and resolve to respond to future attacks. Meanwhile, it showed that Israel was stretched to its limit and needed foreign help to try and stop what is only a fraction of Iranian capabilities.
View: https://twitter.com/AmirIGM/status/1779433695583051918
Remember that preventing escalation was another key objective of Iran.
Biden has told Israel to "take the win". And if it doesn't, the US won't help Israel attack Iran, which it would require if it wanted to fight a successful campaign.
That's exactly what Iran wanted
View: https://twitter.com/AmirIGM/status/1779433697986462078
World leaders from China, US, Europe, and the UN are calling for restraint. They are largely aiming these calls at Netanyahu.
We'll see if he heeds those calls. But Iran has said it is ready if Israel makes another mistake.
View: https://twitter.com/AmirIGM/status/1779433699815072221
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It sure does seem like kabuki theater.
A WWF match from the 80's is what it reminds me of.
Where is Ric Flair and Jake the snake Roberts?
CaryC
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There is a third, but no one likes to talk about that one.
SouthernBreeze
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If Israel decides not to retaliate, I don't guess there will be any war. I woke up this morning expecting to see Iran obliterated. Not even Damascus was hurt.
All in God's timing.
All in God's timing.
bracketquant
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Holding Stone Cold's beers.
Bubble Head
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The more time Iran has the closer they come to putting a Nuke on those ICBM’s. I know Israel may have to go it alone but there may be no tomorrow for them should they not.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
From the viewpoint of hoping there's no further war, I understand your position.
But--from a politics viewpoint--it would be disastrous for a country to simply defend against an attack--and then do nothing.
How would it look if it was the US which did that?
Isn't doing so now, on the part of the US, part of the "weakness" you all have been decrying, that INVITES further attacks from our enemies?
Sadly, it is human nature that you do NOT get a bully to leave you alone by simply 'taking' his abuse.
You have to repel him--which means you must defeat him.
You must fight back.
desertvet2
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Who's job was it to keep their eyes on Valerie?
And where is she now?
Yes, that Valerie.
And where is she now?
Yes, that Valerie.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
So.
Now the bully is throwing his rocks while standing behind a bigger bully.
And saying, "Yah, Yah, you can't get me! If you try, I'll sic my big brother on you!"
Again,--how does one deal with bullies?
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jward
passin' thru
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Tehran informed the U.S. ahead of time that it would launch a "limited" retaliatory attack against Israel for self-defense, foreign minister Hossein Amirabdollahian said today. He also stated that Iran's regional neighbors were given 72 hours notice that the retaliatory strikes were coming. - NBC
9:49 AM · Apr 14, 2024
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@Apex_WW
Tehran informed the U.S. ahead of time that it would launch a "limited" retaliatory attack against Israel for self-defense, foreign minister Hossein Amirabdollahian said today. He also stated that Iran's regional neighbors were given 72 hours notice that the retaliatory strikes were coming. - NBC
9:49 AM · Apr 14, 2024
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Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
QUOTE:Aᴍɪʀ
@AmirIGM
The US is telling Israel to "take the win". Iran is claiming 'Operation True Promise' was a success.
In reality, both sides can claim victory in their own ways.
A thread
Israel's "win" was military-technical in nature. It claims to have destroyed all drones and cruise missiles, while intercepting most - but not all - ballistic missiles.
Israel has one of if not the densest and most advanced anti-ballistic missile coverage in the world.
It's also known that the US Navy helped Israel intercept some ballistic missiles, and aircraft from the US, Israel, Jordan, and France participated in intercepting drones and cruise missiles over Iraq and Jordan.
A vast effort.
View attachment 470186
Crucially, some ballistic missiles got through and struck Nevatim airbase.
From Iran's perspective, last night was a political success. Why? Well, Iran's objective was to restore deterrence following Israel's bombing of Iran's consulate in Syria.
View: https://twitter.com/AmirIGM/status/1779433687790030874
It's impossible to argue that Iran did not achieve that. Israel has been attacking Iranian targets in Syria for ~10 years, and Iran turned the other cheek. This time, Iran launched a large retaliation that required the US to pull in multiple allies operating over foreign airspace
Israel did not fight this attack on its own. It did it with the help of the US Air Force, US Navy, French Air Force, Royal Air Force, and Jordanian Air Force. All flying mainly in other countries outside Israel.
All because Israel bombed a consulate, against int'l law.
View: https://twitter.com/AmirIGM/status/1779433691820806234
Iran was well aware that Israel would enlist foreign help, and this actually played into Iran's hands. It meant that Iran could launch a larger, more politically significant attack without causing heavy damage that could potentially cause escalation.
This strike served to demonstrate that Iran has the capability and resolve to respond to future attacks. Meanwhile, it showed that Israel was stretched to its limit and needed foreign help to try and stop what is only a fraction of Iranian capabilities.
View: https://twitter.com/AmirIGM/status/1779433695583051918
Remember that preventing escalation was another key objective of Iran.
Biden has told Israel to "take the win". And if it doesn't, the US won't help Israel attack Iran, which it would require if it wanted to fight a successful campaign.
That's exactly what Iran wanted
View: https://twitter.com/AmirIGM/status/1779433697986462078
World leaders from China, US, Europe, and the UN are calling for restraint. They are largely aiming these calls at Netanyahu.
We'll see if he heeds those calls. But Iran has said it is ready if Israel makes another mistake.
View: https://twitter.com/AmirIGM/status/1779433699815072221
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Analysis/Commentary on Iranian Geopolitical and Military affairs.
Author of Iran GeoMil blog
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Joined June 2015
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Read with a LARGE salt-shaker.
Profit of Doom
Dismember
And that would be?
jward
passin' thru
astute question!
Last I heard, she was buried in the basement o' O's other white house, presumably playing a part in running the puppet show they've been putting on for us
jward
passin' thru
The Jerusalem Post
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Iran informed Turkey in advance of its planned operation against Israel, a Turkish diplomatic source told Reuters on Sunday, adding that the US conveyed to Iran via Ankara that its operation must be "within certain limits."
View: https://twitter.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/1779512742350635038
@Jerusalem_Post
Iran informed Turkey in advance of its planned operation against Israel, a Turkish diplomatic source told Reuters on Sunday, adding that the US conveyed to Iran via Ankara that its operation must be "within certain limits."
View: https://twitter.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/1779512742350635038
CaryC
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Ha ha you're a trickster. Want to get me banded from the thread, don't you.
LOL just kidding.
But its the point that has a Biblical backing, so have been warned not to talk about it here.
Make them bleed....
This "take the win" as noted only draws this out and encourages more of it. How many US casualties can be billed to Iran since 1979 either directly or as a pass through via "proxies"?
As to the Iranian "consulate" or "embassy annex"in Damascus, that was a TOC directly involved in offensive operations against Israel.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
EXACTLY:
In this case the one who could approve or not the US military is headed by the Biden crime family, the shadow government is headed by Obama.
In this case the Biden crime families interest of keeping a lid on oil price inflation and preventing price shocks before November align with Obama’s outright support of Iran spreading muslim terrorism.
BUT--maybe Biden's actions will (I hope) EVENTUALLY wake up even liberal American Jews (though Liberalism IS a mental disorder, but we can hope) - to the fact that BIDEN and the DEMONCRATS are NOT their friends:
The US jewish community is torn between their weak vague support of Israel and their support of US progressive politics with the progressive’s all in love of Palestinian causes of any type.
Reasonable Rascal
Veteran Member
Don't know what Scott Ritter's agenda is in this situation but I'm not buying his claim that Israel is defenseless.
RR
So the Biden adim "green lit" Iranian action. Yeah that'll look real good....
Profit of Doom
Dismember
Ender’s Game.
Win all future wars.
At this point considering his situation that he's getting any exposure of his thoughts on this is a pay check. The next question is written by whom?
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
"Iran informed ... that the US conveyed to Iran via Ankara that its operation must be "within certain limits."
SAY WHAT ??!?
SO.............IN OTHER WORDS.................
FJB essentially GAVE IRAN A GREEN LIGHT TO ATTACK ISRAEL??????????
oh--as long as it's "within certain limits" of course........
pseudo-friend who is actually in bully's back-pocket to bully before he beats up his "ally"--
"Well, ok, hit him then--but don't hit him too hard."
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
We once on this site banned 'woo' --
and now 20 years later 'woo' is today's HEADLINES.
I wonder how much longer events will allow us to discuss "merely the news" without mentioning the elephant in the room.
Not much longer, I suspect.
But I understand the directive--and why it's there. Too many differences of opinion and interpretation.
Events shall make themselves clear.
jward
passin' thru
I wouldn't mind seein ya banded- but sure would hate to see ya banned ; )
That opens up another question, what files do the Israelis have that the Dems don't want released and is it time to kibbitz back to the Dems to meddle in domestic politics in kind since Biden’s admin has called for Netanyahu's removal from office?
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
ooooh---GOOD point!
Since the Iranian regime chose to use ballistic missiles that opens up that "in kind" reply.
SouthernBreeze
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Events will make themselves clear only for those who have eyes to see. The "Religion" forum is the only place we'll be able to discuss it, still.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Trump isn’t president, is this a fake Biden account?
CaryC
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I never said I could spell, just that I couldn't talk. There is a difference.
Duck tape around the mouth is like being banned.
LOL just kidding.
