CRISIS Trump is about to make the biggest decision of his presidency: EO13848 is Trump's Rubicon

jward

jward

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Ron
@CodeMonkeyZ
8:29 AM · Dec 17, 2020·Twitter Web App

Trump is about to make the biggest decision of his presidency. Let me explain.
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December, 50BC: Julius Caesar was enormously popular and commanding an army of fiercely loyal soldiers. The Roman swamp wanted nothing to do with him and in January 49BC the Roman Senate ordered Julius Caesar to disband his army and return home or become an "Enemy of the State".

Julius Caesar, with the popular support of the Roman populace, and the loyalty of the military, marched his army over the Rubicon river in the North of Italy and became a LEGEND in history.

December 2020: Donald Trump is enormously popular and commanding an army of fiercely loyal soldiers. The US swamp wants nothing to do with him.

Election infrastructure was allegedly attacked and he now has his back to the wall. The courts have failed him. His own political party has failed him.

Trump still has immensely popular support within the US populace, and the fierce loyalty of the military. Trump has EO13848 which allows him to take drastic measures and could potentially be used to restore the Republic.

Does Trump utilize EO13848 and become a LEGEND in history? OR Does Trump submit his family to the mercy of the incoming administration who will be hellbent on making an example of them?

Does Donald Trump want to restore the Republic to greatness and become a LEGEND? Does Donald Trump want to be known forever as one of the greatest leaders of all time? EO13848 is Trump's Rubicon.

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Some responses to the question of whether or not he will use it:

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ChicagoMan74

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jward said:
Ron
@CodeMonkeyZ
8:29 AM · Dec 17, 2020·Twitter Web App

Trump is about to make the biggest decision of his presidency. Let me explain.
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December, 50BC: Julius Caesar was enormously popular and commanding an army of fiercely loyal soldiers. The Roman swamp wanted nothing to do with him and in January 49BC the Roman Senate ordered Julius Caesar to disband his army and return home or become an "Enemy of the State".

Julius Caesar, with the popular support of the Roman populace, and the loyalty of the military, marched his army over the Rubicon river in the North of Italy and became a LEGEND in history.

December 2020: Donald Trump is enormously popular and commanding an army of fiercely loyal soldiers. The US swamp wants nothing to do with him.

Election infrastructure was allegedly attacked and he now has his back to the wall. The courts have failed him. His own political party has failed him.

Trump still has immensely popular support within the US populace, and the fierce loyalty of the military. Trump has EO13848 which allows him to take drastic measures and could potentially be used to restore the Republic.

Does Trump utilize EO13848 and become a LEGEND in history? OR Does Trump submit his family to the mercy of the incoming administration who will be hellbent on making an example of them?

Does Donald Trump want to restore the Republic to greatness and become a LEGEND? Does Donald Trump want to be known forever as one of the greatest leaders of all time? EO13848 is Trump's Rubicon.

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Some responses to the question of whether or not he will use it:

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The wikileaks "dump" is fake news.

The navy "fleets" "parking" off both coasts? Fake news/intentional conjecture as well.
 
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jaw1969

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mwrobel said:
The wikileaks "dump" is fake news.

The navy "fleets" "parking" off both coasts? Fake news/intentional conjecture as well.
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The wiki leaks is fake But the United States fleets parked off the east and west coast is not fake You can see it The aircraft carriers and support ships missile cruisers fast frigates submarines and marine amphibious assault are off the coast of United States That's 100%
 
Shadow

Shadow

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The DNI was supposed to submit a report within 45 days. I do not know if that was a requirement, a prerequisite for the president to act. I do not think it limits him but I believe it will make his enemies question his actions. There is enough evidence that he has access to from other sources. He can fire the heads of intelligence agencies later for slow walking the information.

As mentioned in the article, he and his family will be at the mercy of an incoming administration that is vindictive.

They have put him in a place where he has little to lose.

Shadow
 
pinkelsteinsmom

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Shadow said:
The DNI was supposed to submit a report within 45 days. I do not know if that was a requirement, a prerequisite for the president to act. I do not think it limits him but I believe it will make his enemies question his actions. There is enough evidence that he has access to from other sources. He can fire the heads of intelligence agencies later for slow walking the information.

As mentioned in the article, he and his family will be at the mercy of an incoming administration that is vindictive.

They have put him in a place where he has little to lose.

Shadow
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Yes it is and they are refusing to do so by the 18th to prevent his legal ability to push the button.
 
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Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
The EO (13848), or any of DJT's other "Easy Buttons," are the very last things he wants to have to do. But the ESTABLISHED mechanisms have to be allowed to play out FIRST, and ALL the other OPTIONS have to FAIL before he will go there. At least as I see it. School is in session, and DJT is the schoolmaster.

Or he is part of the problem ... take your pick.
 
SmithJ

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Theres nothing in EO13848 that would enable Trump to remain in office. There's nothing in the "insurrection act" either.

For Trump to remain in office he needs at least one of two things.

1) the support of the US Supreme Court, which clearly he does not have given the outright rejection of the Texas lawsuit. or,

2) the support of the US Congress, which clearly he does not have given Nancy Pelosi is in charge of one chamber and Mitch McConnell has ordered the senate to fall in line behind Biden.

That's it. There are NO other avenues. Any local or state legislative or court challenges have to go through those two avenues.

As far as Trump remaining President, its over.

Any fantasy's of armed rebellion (which won't happen before 1/20/21 anyway) don't end with him as President. Even if they were successful, the Presidency would be over.......
 
somewherepress

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SmithJ said:
Theres nothing in EO13848 that would enable Trump to remain in office. There's nothing in the "insurrection act" either.

For Trump to remain in office he needs at least one of two things.

1) the support of the US Supreme Court, which clearly he does not have given the outright rejection of the Texas lawsuit. or,

2) the support of the US Congress, which clearly he does not have given Nancy Pelosi is in charge of one chamber and Mitch McConnell has ordered the senate to fall in line behind Biden.

That's it. There are NO other avenues. Any local or state legislative or court challenges have to go through those two avenues.

As far as Trump remaining President, its over.

Any fantasy's of armed rebellion (which won't happen before 1/20/21 anyway) don't end with him as President. Even if they were successful, the Presidency would be over.......
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There is this:

ALERT - Powell's KRAKEN lawsuit finally docketed by US Supreme Court

BREAKING: SUPREME COURT: The KRAKEN Has Hit SCOTUS DOCKET, Has PROOF Of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF FAKE BIDEN VOTES, Dominion System GLITCHES, REMOVAL OF TRUMP VOTES By John Paluska, Founder of The Daily Fodder Sidney Powell's "Kraken" has finally made it to the docket of the Supreme Court. The...
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Dozdoats

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Gee. I seem to recall some different approaches to what the president could and couldn't do (and DID do) back in the Reagan years, even though none of that got this far out in the weeds.

But then, maybe I am getting senile in my old age.
 
SmithJ

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SmithJ

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Dozdoats said:
Gee. I seem to recall some different approaches to what the president could and couldn't do (and DID do) back in the Reagan years, even though none of that got this far out in the weeds.

But then, maybe I am getting senile in my old age.
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Reagan stayed in office despite being declared the loser by the electoral college and refused access to the Supreme Court?

I must have missed that........
 
Henry Bowman

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SmithJ said:
Theres nothing in EO13848 that would enable Trump to remain in office. There's nothing in the "insurrection act" either.

For Trump to remain in office he needs at least one of two things.

1) the support of the US Supreme Court, which clearly he does not have given the outright rejection of the Texas lawsuit. or,

2) the support of the US Congress, which clearly he does not have given Nancy Pelosi is in charge of one chamber and Mitch McConnell has ordered the senate to fall in line behind Biden.

That's it. There are NO other avenues. Any local or state legislative or court challenges have to go through those two avenues.

As far as Trump remaining President, its over.

Any fantasy's of armed rebellion (which won't happen before 1/20/21 anyway) don't end with him as President. Even if they were successful, the Presidency would be over.......
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Just a question , If the "Fantasy" of an armed rebellion did take place , either before or after 1/20/21, would you partake or sit and watch?

Just curious.
 
SmithJ

SmithJ

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somewherepress said:
There is this:

ALERT - Powell's KRAKEN lawsuit finally docketed by US Supreme Court

BREAKING: SUPREME COURT: The KRAKEN Has Hit SCOTUS DOCKET, Has PROOF Of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF FAKE BIDEN VOTES, Dominion System GLITCHES, REMOVAL OF TRUMP VOTES By John Paluska, Founder of The Daily Fodder Sidney Powell's "Kraken" has finally made it to the docket of the Supreme Court. The...
www.timebomb2000.com www.timebomb2000.com
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It was the first thing on the list...…. the first thing that he DOES NOT HAVE...…..

For Trump to remain in office he needs at least one of two things.

1) the support of the US Supreme Court, which clearly he does not have given the outright rejection of the Texas lawsuit. or,
 
Cacheman

Cacheman

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Section 1. (d) Nothing in this order shall prevent the head of any agency or any other appropriate official from tendering to the President, at any time through an appropriate channel, any analysis, information, assessment, or evaluation of foreign interference in a United States election.

Does this paragraph of the EO imply the President can take action without first receiving the entire assessment?
 
SmithJ

SmithJ

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Dozdoats said:
Yah, you probably missed Iran-Contra too.
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Is that where he overthrew the duly crowned Mondale Administration with armed force? You're right, I missed that.

Because that's the kinda power we are talking about here. And Trump doesn't have it......
 
SmithJ

SmithJ

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Henry Bowman said:
Just a question , If the "Fantasy" of an armed rebellion did take place , either before or after 1/20/21, would you partake or sit and watch?

Just curious.
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Just a question. If you took part in it, exactly who would you shoot? Your neighbor? The old man down the street? The town cops?

Exactly how do you expect this armed citizen rebellion to take place, who are you gonna follow and who are you gonna shoot when you get there?

This ain't call of duty...…...

Just curious.
 
Henry Bowman

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SmithJ said:
Just a question. If you took part in it, exactly who would you shoot? Your neighbor? The old man down the street? The town cops?

Exactly how do you expect this armed citizen rebellion to take place, who are you gonna follow and who are you gonna shoot when you get there?

This ain't call of duty...…...

Just curious.
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Just as I thought....no answer.. But in doing so you answered everything.

Thanks!

To answer your question though...I did not think it was...did you just find that out?

Go back to pleading and bootlicking at your convenience.
 
SmithJ

SmithJ

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Dozdoats said:
All disputation aside, this is an event certain, date certain thing. All we have to do is wait and we will know.

So, who here wants to be a ChiCom colony?
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You are correct about the date. And not me.

And my point was that those 2 avenues are the only way Trump remains President at this point.

Anything else, even if he is successful, result in something different. Different could be good. But the odds are, it won't be.
 
SmithJ

SmithJ

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Henry Bowman said:
Just as I thought....no answer.. But in doing so you answered everything.

Thanks!

To answer your question though...I did not think it was...did you just find that out?

Go back to pleading and bootlicking at your convenience.
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Who are you gonna shoot Henry? Do you wanna talk about it on the internet? Do you live solely in the pages of your little fantasy book or do you have a desk in DC? Who are you gonna shoot?

This ain't a game.
 
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jaw1969

Senior Member
mwrobel said:
Yes, US Navy ships get docked and park on the coast as part of the end of normal tours, maintenance, leave, and a host of other reasons part of SOP. Plus...I con't recall any MAJOR incursions or wars going on, so there that too.

That they are here to support some dreamed up notion of supporting Trumps impending invoking of the Insurrection Act is WOO.
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They are off the coast ....NOT in port .
 
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jaw1969

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DazedandConfused said:
If the US was going to war our carrier groups would be dispersed around the world not tucked up close too home, all the USN ships would be in ghost mode and one would not be able to track them on a web tracking site.
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They're doing it on purpose as a show of force basically don't F with us or we will protect our own and we're not going to war except for probably with our self and one more thing The five that we have off the coast of the United States isn't all of our assets We have 11 super carriers if you want to count some of the other smaller ship aircraft carriers we have 20 more than any other country in the world..... Well actually we have more than every other country in the world combined....
 
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Henry Bowman

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SmithJ said:
Who are you gonna shoot Henry? Do you wanna talk about it on the internet? Do you live solely in the pages of your little fantasy book? Who are you gonna shoot?

This ain't a game.
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We have established that...it is almost as if you just came to the realization and can't comprehend it....No worries about what I am going to do...we now all know you are a Bootlicker....will always be a bootlicker and are someone to avoid as you will more than likely be a rat.

Bootlickers make the best rats.
 
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Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Will not argue with the "different." IMO one of THE significant events in American history was Geo Washington's stepping down from the presidency.

Thing is, America V 1.0 is DONE, no matter what. The major question now is, what comes next? Caesar crossing the Rubicon moved Rome from a Republic to an Empire. Well, as far as I can tell the ZUSA has been a de facto empire for quite some time now. What comes next is definitely going to be something different - but who wants the 'different' to be falling under Chinese hegemony?
 
CaryC

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SmithJ said:
Theres nothing in EO13848 that would enable Trump to remain in office. There's nothing in the "insurrection act" either.

For Trump to remain in office he needs at least one of two things.

1) the support of the US Supreme Court, which clearly he does not have given the outright rejection of the Texas lawsuit. or,

2) the support of the US Congress, which clearly he does not have given Nancy Pelosi is in charge of one chamber and Mitch McConnell has ordered the senate to fall in line behind Biden.

That's it. There are NO other avenues. Any local or state legislative or court challenges have to go through those two avenues.

As far as Trump remaining President, its over.

Any fantasy's of armed rebellion (which won't happen before 1/20/21 anyway) don't end with him as President. Even if they were successful, the Presidency would be over.......
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Yes people need to come to the conclusion that it's over.

BTW even if Trump was to enact it, pray tell, who on God's green earth (well it may be white in some places) will enforce it? Who? Who? Does anyone think the Pentagon will enforce it? Really when this whole time, they have been against his directives in removing troops over seas. He can't even get that done. (not blaming him, bless his heart he tried)

His title may be Commander in Chief, but when he says "over the wall boys" and no one goes, it's only a title.
 
CaryC

CaryC

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Dozdoats said:
Will not argue with the "different." IMO one of THE significant events in American history was Geo Washington's stepping down from the presidency.

Thing is, America V 1.0 is DONE, no matter what. The major question now is, what comes next? Caesar crossing the Rubicon moved Rome from a Republic to an Empire. Well, as far as I can tell the ZUSA has been a de facto empire for quite some time now. What comes next is definitely going to be something different - but who wants the 'different' to be falling under Chinese hegemony?
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Learn to say "Comrade".
 
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