GOV/MIL Romney Admits Push to Ban TikTok Is Aimed at Censoring News Out of Gaza

gunwish

Senior Member
And people wonder why I don't trust the government. Here is Romney basically saying why Tik-Tok is banned. Not because it is stealing users data, or posing a national security risk, but because it is making Israel look bad. Boohoo, freedom of speech is one the most important freedoms and I don't want the government having anything to do with censuring what I view, on any platform. If another country is having PR problems then that is their issue and not mine. Under no circumstances should another country have anything to do with limiting our freedoms.

I have always been against the banning of any media platform including TikTok, and have never bought reasoning behind it. Congress, several states, and various government agencies/people have told the American people that TikTok is spying on them and stealing user data. That the data is being used by the CCP, and that is bad mmkay. Ok, on some levels the various government agencies and people are correct. If user rights ans data are such an issue, then why haven't there been any bills or push back on the other social media platforms and companies that do the same thing? Think Google, Facebook, Microsoft, most cell phone providers and countless others. Those companies have been spying on Americans for years, but it is only a problem when TikTok does.

Romney is stating part of the truth about what is going on. They are selling the typical propaganda to the American people. Banning TikTok has nothing to do with protecting user data or privacy. It has everything to do with control and limiting free speech of the American people. The government can't have people with their own thoughts or freedom of thought. Everyone that pushed for the bill to ban TikTok needs to lose their jobs. They are a direct threat to the American people and the 1st ammendment.

Heaven forbid the propaganda machine out of Israel not work exactly how they want it to. Maybe some of the reports coming out of Gaza are based on facts. The question becomes why does it matter to the USA that Israel can't control the naritive. This whole thing is all about control. The government and Romney don't care about freedom.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Incredible mask-off moment: Romney and Blinken say that the ban of TikTok was directly because &quot;the emotion, the impact of images has a very challenging effect on the narrative&quot;, the narrative being &quot;Israel&#39;s PR&quot;.<a href="https://t.co/WkIGTAXG2X">pic.twitter.com/WkIGTAXG2X</a></p>&mdash; Arnaud Bertrand (@RnaudBertrand) <a href=" View: https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1787288209963290753?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Romney Admits Push to Ban TikTok Is Aimed at Censoring News Out of Gaza​


Common Dreams 05/07/2024


A conversation between Secretary of State Antony Blinken and the Republican senator offered an “incredible historical document” showing how the U.S. views its role in the Middle East.
By Julia Conley
( Commondreams.org ) – A discussion between U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Sen. Mitt Romney over the weekend included what one critic called an “incredible mask-off moment,” with the two officials speaking openly about the U.S. government’s long-term attempts to provide public relations work for Israel in defense of its policies in the occupied Palestinian territories—and its push to ban TikTok in order to shut down Americans’ access to unfiltered news about the Israeli assault on Gaza.
At the Sedona Forum in Sedona, Arizona on Friday, the Utah Republican asked Blinken at the McCain Institute event’s keynote conversation why Israel’s “PR been so awful” as it’s bombarded Gaza since October in retaliation for a Hamas-led attack, killing at least 34,735 Palestinians—the majority women and children—and pushing parts of the enclave into a famine that is expected to spread due to Israel’s blockade.
“The world is screaming about Israel, why aren’t they screaming about Hamas?” asked Romney. “‘Accept a cease-fire, bring home the hostages.’ Instead it’s the other way around, I mean, typically the Israelis are good at PR. What’s happened here? How have they, and we, been so ineffective at communicating the realities there?”
Blinken replied that Americans, two-thirds of whom want the Biden administration to push for a permanent cease-fire and 57% of whom disapprove of President Joe Biden’s approach to the war, are “on an intravenous feed of information with new impulses, inputs every millisecond.”
“And of course the way this has played out on social media has dominated the narrative,” said the secretary of state. “We can’t discount that, but I think it also has a very, very challenging effect on the narrative.”
Romney suggested that banning TikTok would quiet the growing outrage over Israeli atrocities in the United States.
“Some wonder why there was such overwhelming support for us to shut down, potentially, TikTok or other entities of that nature,” said Romney. “If you look at the postings on TikTok and the number of mentions of Palestinians relative to other social media sites, it’s overwhelmingly so among TikTok broadcasts.”

The interview took place amid a growing anti-war movement on college campuses across the U.S. and around the world, with American police forces responding aggressively to protests at which students have demanded higher education institutions divest from companies that contract with Israel and that the U.S. stop funding the Israel Defense Forces.
Right-wing lawmakers and commentators have suggested students have been indoctrinated by content shared on social media platforms including TikTok and Instagram, and wouldn’t be protesting otherwise.
Rep. Mike Lawler (R-N.Y.), who co-sponsored a recent bill to ban TikTok—included in a foreign aid package that Biden signed late last month—said last week that “there has been a coordinated effort off these college campuses, and that you have outside paid agitators and activists.”
“It also highlights exactly why we included the TikTok bill in the foreign supplemental aid package because you’re seeing how these kids are being manipulated by certain groups or entities or countries to foment hate on their behalf and really create a hostile environment here in the U.S.,” said Lawler.
Social media has provided the public with an unvarnished look at the scale of Israel’s attack, with users learning the stories of Gaza residents including six-year-old Hind Rajab, 10-year-old Yazan Kafarneh, and victims who have been found in mass graves and seeing the destruction of hospitals, universities, and other civilian infrastructure.
U.S. college students, however, are far from the only people who have expressed strong opposition to Israel’s slaughter of Palestinian civilians and large-scale destruction of Gaza as it claims to be targeting Hamas.
Human rights groups across the globe have demanded an end to the Biden administration’s support for Israel’s military and called on the U.S. president to use his leverage to end the war. Josep Borrell, the European Union’s high representative for foreign affairs and security policy, in February lambasted Biden and other Western leaders for claiming concern about the safety of Palestinians while continuing to arm Israel, and leaders in Spain and Ireland have led calls for an arms embargo on the country. The United Nations’ top expert on human rights in the occupied Palestinian territories said in March that there are “reasonable grounds” to conclude Israel has committed genocidal acts, two months after the International Court of Justice made a similar statement in an interim ruling.
US Department of State Video: “Secretary Blinken participates in a keynote conversation at the McCain Institute”

Romney and Blinken didn’t mention in their talk whether they believe social media and bad “PR” have pushed international leaders and experts to make similar demands to those of college students.
The conversation, said Intercept journalist Ryan Grim, was an “incredible historical document” showing how the U.S. government views its role in the Middle East—as a government that should “mediate” between Israel and the public to keep people from having “a direct look at what’s happening.”
“Romney’s comments betray a general bipartisan disinterest in engaging Israel’s conduct in Gaza on its own terms, preferring instead to complain about protesters, interrogate university presidents, and, apparently, muse about social media’s role in boosting pro-Palestinian activism,” wrote Ben Metzner at The New Republic. “As Israel moves closer to a catastrophic invasion of Rafah, having already banned Al Jazeera in the country, Romney and Blinken would be wise to consider whether TikTok is the real problem.”
Enterpreneur James Rosen-Birch added that “Mitt Romney flat-out asking Antony Blinken, in public, why the United States is not doing a better job manufacturing consent, is wild.”
Our work is licensed under Creative Commons (CC BY-NC-ND 3.0).

Julia Conley
Julia Conley is a staff writer for Common Dreams.

Via Commondreams.org
 

Cacheman

Ultra MAGA!
No Mittens, it's because young people use TikTok extensively, the government has zero control of it and can't spread their own propaganda to further indoctrinate them and quite a few young people are waking up because of Tik Tok, it's not all stupid nurses dancing in hospitals videos. The threat to TPTB is very serious and they know it. Any info Tik Tok collects can just as easily simply purchased from Face Book or any other site.
 

Weps

Veteran Member
And people wonder why I don't trust the government. Here is Romney basically saying why Tik-Tok is banned. Not because it is stealing users data, or posing a national security risk, but because it is making Israel look bad. Boohoo, freedom of speech is one the most important freedoms and I don't want the government having anything to do with censuring what I view, on any platform. If another country is having PR problems then that is their issue and not mine. Under no circumstances should another country have anything to do with limiting our freedoms.

I have always been against the banning of any media platform including TikTok, and have never bought reasoning behind it. Congress, several states, and various government agencies/people have told the American people that TikTok is spying on them and stealing user data. That the data is being used by the CCP, and that is bad mmkay. Ok, on some levels the various government agencies and people are correct. If user rights ans data are such an issue, then why haven't there been any bills or push back on the other social media platforms and companies that do the same thing? Think Google, Facebook, Microsoft, most cell phone providers and countless others. Those companies have been spying on Americans for years, but it is only a problem when TikTok does.

Romney is stating part of the truth about what is going on. They are selling the typical propaganda to the American people. Banning TikTok has nothing to do with protecting user data or privacy. It has everything to do with control and limiting free speech of the American people. The government can't have people with their own thoughts or freedom of thought. Everyone that pushed for the bill to ban TikTok needs to lose their jobs. They are a direct threat to the American people and the 1st ammendment.

Heaven forbid the propaganda machine out of Israel not work exactly how they want it to. Maybe some of the reports coming out of Gaza are based on facts. The question becomes why does it matter to the USA that Israel can't control the naritive. This whole thing is all about control. The government and Romney don't care about freedom.

Romney basically said nothing, he mused that the ban could potentially help stem anti-Israel commentary and that Palistanian use of Tiktok was higher over that of other social media platforms. (Of course it is, Tiktok is the most popular social media app)

Romney isn't spreading truth, even accidently. He's shilling propaganda that benefits the Chinese tech firms he's been in bed with since the late-90's.

The ban has nothing to do with Israel, the idea of a national Tiktok ban has been floated since late-2022. Montana was the first to ban it's use in the US in May of 2023. Other states have since enacted regulations that ban the use of Tiktok on state-owned devices, and the Feds banned use of Tiktok on federal devices last year.

Tiktok, just like all social media (actually, the entire internet) is being used to spy on it's users, the only difference is the end-user. For the majority of social media, that end-user is the US Gov't, for Tiktok it's the CCP.

Tiktok has "become" a problem, because it presents the US Gov't a unique oppurtunity to enact legisation that grants it sweeping power over ALL social media, be it foregin owned or domestically owned...and the Tiktok ban bill has done just that, given them extreme power to "regulate".

However, let's not kid ourselves. Propaganda is a two-way street, Tiktok, just like all social media platforms is used to influence it's users and the CCP has used Tiktok to great effect to influence it's user-base to support pro-CCP initiatives or to support or oppose movements that harm or benefit the CCP such as BLM, Stop Asian Hate, and the current Pro-Palistinian protests/riots.

#StopAsianHate: Chinese diaspora targeted by CCP disinformation campaign - The Australian Strategic Policy Institute

We see the US Gov't preform these same tactics with Donald Trump, claiming "foreign interference" on social media by "the Russians".

Ask yourself why the Russian's would work to influence support for a populist-nationalist as President of their largest military advesary? If Trump was so pro-Russian and the Russian's so pro-Trump, why did they wait until his ousting from the Presidency to resume their campaign in Ukraine?

Who was Joseph Kony and the Lord's Resistance Army? Why was that campaign some popular when child armies and warlords are so common in Africa?

Why is Israel's presence in Gaza all over social media? What international entity has confirmed the reported 34,000~ deaths? Has it been verified that Hamas hasn't simply just generated those figures to illicit tacit support and fuel turmoil globally? What about the Iranian involvement in the Oct. 7th massacre? How does this impact Ukraine-Russia?

What about the on-going Rohingya genocide, the on-going Dafur genocide? What about the unreported massive economic migration from South America in the US? What about the shadow miration happening behind the aformentioned economic migration?

We're in the age of Fifth Generation Warefare, all information is suspect...
 
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