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Dash

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@JacquiHeinrich

The Biden administration has paused shipments of two types of precision bombs for Israel, according to a U.S. official. One is 1,800 2,000 pound bombs and the second is 1,700 500 pound bombs. The shipments were not part of the national security supplemental.

Full Statement attributable to a U.S. official, via @Liz_Friden

"The U.S. position has been that Israel should not launch a major ground operation in Rafah, where more than a million people are sheltering with nowhere else to go.

We have been engaging in a dialogue with Israel in our Strategic Consultative Group format on how they will meet the humanitarian needs of civilians in Rafah, and how to operate differently against Hamas there than they have elsewhere in Gaza.

Those discussions are ongoing and have not fully addressed our concerns. As Israeli leaders seemed to approach a decision point on such an operation, we began to carefully review proposed transfers of particular weapons to Israel that might be used in Rafah. This began in April.

As a result of that review, we have paused one shipment of weapons last week. It consists of 1,800 2,000-lb bombs and 1,700 500-lb bombs. We are especially focused on the end-use of the 2,000-lb bombs and the impact they could have in dense urban settings as we have seen in other parts of Gaza. We have not made a final determination on how to proceed with this shipment.

For certain other cases at the State Department, including JDAM kits, we are continuing the review. None of these cases involve imminent transfers – they are about future transfers.

And finally, to be clear: none of these shipments have anything to do with the Israel supplemental appropriations passed last month. All are drawn from previously appropriated funds, some many years ago. We are committed to ensuring Israel gets every dollar appropriated in the supplemental. In fact, we just approved the latest tranche of Foreign Military Financing: $827 million worth of weapons and equipment for Israel."

View: https://twitter.com/jacquiheinrich/status/1788122711111192695?s=61
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
@JewishWarrior13

BREAKING: Right after the announcement made by Austin about the arms cut to Israel. Hamas just released an announcement: "Hamas is ONLY willing to discuss the offer we accepted and nothing else." FJB
View: https://twitter.com/jewishwarrior13/status/1788233671578652682?s=61
IOW:

1. WE, unilaterally, draw up an "agreement"
2. WE, unilaterally, ACCEPT our own agreement that we created
3. WE then DEMAND Israel ACCEPT the agreement WE created--that Israel hadn't even SEEN yet
4. WE then excoriate Israel for "refusing to accept a Cease-Fire agreement"--that Israel never agreed to or saw

One of the tenets of this agreement was posted by jward:

jward said:


Raylan Givens
@JewishWarrior13

More SHOCKING details from this US-created fantasy deal: it is being reported that if the number of live Israeli hostages does not reach 33, then they will be “reimbursed” with bodies of dead hostages from that same category. In return, Israel would have to release ALL women and men under 19 arrested after the 10/7 attack. This would only happen in the 5th week of the 6-week cease-fire. My take: Hamas has nowhere near 33 live hostages and the Biden admin knows it. Absolutely pure evil.

4:55 PM · May 6, 2024
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Dash

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@IDF

Hamas continues to fire from populated areas toward the Kerem Shalom Crossing, deliberately endangering Gazan civilians and the ability of the crossing.

Just today:

Numerous launches were identified from the area of Rafah. The launches did not cross into Israeli territory and fell in Gaza.

Sirens sounded after eight launches were identified crossing from the area of Rafah. As a result of the launches, an IDF soldier was lightly injured

View: https://twitter.com/idf/status/1788294858920116348?s=61
 

Housecarl

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IOW:

1. WE, unilaterally, draw up an "agreement"
2. WE, unilaterally, ACCEPT our own agreement that we created
3. WE then DEMAND Israel ACCEPT the agreement WE created--that Israel hadn't even SEEN yet
4. WE then excoriate Israel for "refusing to accept a Cease-Fire agreement"--that Israel never agreed to or saw

One of the tenets of this agreement was posted by jward:

jward said:


Raylan Givens
@JewishWarrior13

More SHOCKING details from this US-created fantasy deal: it is being reported that if the number of live Israeli hostages does not reach 33, then they will be “reimbursed” with bodies of dead hostages from that same category. In return, Israel would have to release ALL women and men under 19 arrested after the 10/7 attack. This would only happen in the 5th week of the 6-week cease-fire. My take: Hamas has nowhere near 33 live hostages and the Biden admin knows it. Absolutely pure evil.

4:55 PM · May 6, 2024
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This isn't going to be forgotten by the Israelis.....
 

jward

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Sources are reporting that the Site of the Temporary Pier which was Constructed in the Central Gaza Strip by the Israel Defense Force and will soon be used for the Transfer of Humanitarian Aid from the U.S. Army’s Joint Logistics Over-the-Shore (JLOTS) Floating Dock being Completed off the Coast of Gaza, was Attacked at least Twice within the last 24 Hours by Rockets and Mortars launched by Hamas. The Attacks caused No Casualties, but Minor Damage to the Site.

3:21 PM · May 8, 2024
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jward

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Raylan Givens
@JewishWarrior13

BREAKING: The US Secretary of State Blnken publicly announces: We halted arms shipments to Israel in light of the operation in Rafah. We are currently looking at additional shipments depending on the current operation in Rafah. Israel must not carry out an operation in Rafah without a plan that takes into account the safety of the citizens in Rafah.

The Biden regime has now officially abandoned Israel and is doing everything it can to help Hamas to fight Israel.

10:09 AM · May 8, 2024
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jward

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Jason Brodsky
@JasonMBrodsky

Other than performing for certain elements of the Democratic Party, I'm not sure what Biden hopes to achieve here strategically by going public like this. It undermines #Israel's and U.S. deterrence and risks making a hostage deal harder to achieve. 1/2
The comments will thrill #Hamas, #IRGCterrorists, their sympathizers, and those partisan voices in the U.S. who are so drunk off of a volcanic hatred of Benjamin Netanyahu they can't see straight. But we have Americans in Gaza. What does the president say to them? All the trips in the world by Bill Burns without the credible threat of military force won't bring them home. 2/2

5:22 PM · May 8, 2024
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Raylan Givens
@JewishWarrior13

BREAKING: The US Secretary of State Blnken publicly announces: We halted arms shipments to Israel in light of the operation in Rafah. We are currently looking at additional shipments depending on the current operation in Rafah. Israel must not carry out an operation in Rafah without a plan that takes into account the safety of the citizens in Rafah.

The Biden regime has now officially abandoned Israel and is doing everything it can to help Hamas to fight Israel.

10:09 AM · May 8, 2024
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somewherepress

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Senior Officials with the Israel Defense Force have told Media Publications that the Decision by the United States to Delay the Shipment of Precision-Guided Munitions to Israel, due to Ground Operations against the City of Rafah in Southern Gaza; could result in the Israeli Air Force being forced to utilize “Dumb Bombs” against Targets that would usually require a Precision Strike, possibly causing Higher Civilian Casualties.


1:04 PM · May 8, 2024
 

Doc1

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OK pal, step right up and do it by force and see what happens !

The old phrase, "Too big for your britches," seems to apply to the Israelis currently. Before this post gets derailed, understand that it is not "anti-Israeli." There are some few on this board and certainly on others, who seem to believe that any post which does not glorify Israel is somehow anti-Semitic. That's not my intent. So, with that out of the way allow me to move on...

The Israelis have a big problem in their anti-terr war and that problem is big numbers. Those numbers don't favor Israel. Israel is more or less surrounded by hostile neighbors. Even those Muslim nations which have established diplomatic relations with Israel are hardly friendly, or perhaps it would be more accurate to describe any such friendships as less than skin deep.

The Israeli Defense Force (IDF) is not strong enough or large enough to take on the Muslim world through conventional means. The IDF is a very competent military force, but it is a relatively small one and Israel is a relatively small country. Additionally, much of the IDF's manpower is represented by reservists and when they are taken away from their civilian jobs, the country's economy suffers. There are already signs of this occurring.

In a large country like the United States, our Army Reserve and National Guard manpower requirements don't hurt the economy. In fact, a strong case can be made that those part-time soldiers (and their necessary installations and equipment) actually help our economy. In any case, their numbers are relatively small. In Israel the reservist numbers are a very large percentage of their population and calling them up for deployments does hurt their economy.

There's a more serious problem, though: No matter how many reservists are called up, they can't match the huge numbers of actual and potential soldiers in the Muslim world. Many Muslim nations have surplus of low skilled, impoverished males and their leaders might find the prospect of sending these men off on a military death march to be very appealing.

This brings us to the oft-touted Israeli "Samson Option." In a nutshell, this is Israel's (potential) option of loosing their nukes on all real and perceived enemies if Israel's survival was threatened. Some pundits have suggested that Moscow is on that list.

The Samson Option may have made a certain (though warped) amount of sense decades ago, but times have changed. Israel almost certainly no longer has a monopoly on nuclear weapons in the Middle East. It is very likely that at least some of Israel's enemies possess nukes of their own. If that is the case, the Samson Option would be nothing more than a suicide pact. Yes, the Israelis could take out huge numbers of their enemies, but they couldn't eliminate them all. Israel - a very small country - on the other hand would be obliterated. This would represent a defacto win for the Muslim world. In any case, nuclear weapons are not very effective against dispersed guerilla forces and further, no one can predict how the use of nuclear weapons might spin out of control and involve the different superpowers.

In closing, I'll admit that I don't really have a closing. I will say that we are living through extremely dangerous times and can only suggest that in addition to prepping for our families, we especially pray to The Lord for peace.

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jward

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Bill, this administration is not doing this because of Michigan. Don’t fall for that head fake. Sadly the real reason is worse: the WH & State Dept. are littered with pro-Iranian paid &/or ideological agents who are preserving Hamas at the bequest of Tehran.


Bill Ackman
@BillAckman
By withholding weapons from @Israel
in the midst of its hostage negotiations with Hamas, @POTUS
Biden sent a clear signal to Hamas that the administration was tipping the scale in the negotiations in Hamas’ favor. This took pressure off Hamas, leading it to reduce its offer to Israel, ultimately killing the deal.

Now why would Biden abandon an important ally while it was negotiating the return of hostages including five or more Americans?

The answer of course is political. Biden is at risk of losing the Muslim vote in Michigan and other key states, and he is leveraging Israel to advance himself with these constituents.

In other words, Biden is attempting to garner votes by impairing an ally’s ability to defeat a terrorist group that seeks the total destruction of Israel and the Jewish people.

I don’t know how anyone that cares about Israel or the Jewish people could vote for Biden due to his actions here.

Even if you don’t care about Jews or Israel, think about the damage this does to our relationships with allies around the world. Biden has made eminently clear that he is prepared to impair one of our key allies’ ability to fight an enemy in order to win more votes at home.

A president who cared about his reputation and that of our country would never behave this way. I can therefore only conclude that these disastrous policy decisions are made by others in the administration as the president no longer has the capability or judgment to make them himself.

Do we really want four more years of this?
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Bill, this administration is not doing this because of Michigan. Don’t fall for that head fake. Sadly the real reason is worse: the WH & State Dept. are littered with pro-Iranian paid &/or ideological agents who are preserving Hamas at the bequest of Tehran.


Bill Ackman
@BillAckman
By withholding weapons from @Israel
in the midst of its hostage negotiations with Hamas, @POTUS
Biden sent a clear signal to Hamas that the administration was tipping the scale in the negotiations in Hamas’ favor. This took pressure off Hamas, leading it to reduce its offer to Israel, ultimately killing the deal.

Now why would Biden abandon an important ally while it was negotiating the return of hostages including five or more Americans?

The answer of course is political. Biden is at risk of losing the Muslim vote in Michigan and other key states, and he is leveraging Israel to advance himself with these constituents.

In other words, Biden is attempting to garner votes by impairing an ally’s ability to defeat a terrorist group that seeks the total destruction of Israel and the Jewish people.

I don’t know how anyone that cares about Israel or the Jewish people could vote for Biden due to his actions here.

Even if you don’t care about Jews or Israel, think about the damage this does to our relationships with allies around the world. Biden has made eminently clear that he is prepared to impair one of our key allies’ ability to fight an enemy in order to win more votes at home.

A president who cared about his reputation and that of our country would never behave this way. I can therefore only conclude that these disastrous policy decisions are made by others in the administration as the president no longer has the capability or judgment to make them himself.

Do we really want four more years of this?

The assumption being that Biden himself is actually making these calls and not the cabal of Obama retreads (and perhaps Obama himself) who if the DNC looses in November they may be exposed as to what's really been going on in the Biden Admin. Drift off.....
 
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