HEALTH Recovery time for 8 day confinement (hospital )--------------->Pneumonia

[Gitche Gumee Kid]

I was released 12 days ago ,after an eight days & nine nights confinement for pneumonia.
Weak as a kitten--->difficult falling asleep. O2 level -->steady 93/94
Melatonin gives me bad dreams.
Born 1935
My grandson ( a Nurse Anesthetist ) told me 3 days recovery per days in hospital. ?
Any pneumonia "survivors "out there? Advice or comments coveted.
GGK

 

[desertvet2]

Good to hear your home and on the mend.
Don't push yourself too hard.
And obviously you are not any kind of wimp to have a run from 35' till now...well done.

Keep at it every day.

 

[helen]

Sing. We don't care if you're good at it. Put on your favorite songs and sing along as loud as you can.

 

[Intestinal Fortitude]

Have you had the pneumonia vaccine? Medical Industry's best kept secret . . .

vitamin C, sunshine, stay away from negative people, protein, chocolate!

 

[summerthyme]

Do a little more each day, depending on your activity levels. Set goals (minutes upright and walking, using spirometer, doing very mild stretching exercises sitting down, with both arms and legs. It will help address muscle wasting, and help prevent blood clots.

The longer you are upright is best for your lungs, but don't cheat yourself on rest. But exercise, even only one or two repetitions of each movement can improve your physical need for sleep.

Unless your kidneys can't handle it or other health issues prohibit, get on a diet that prioritizes animal proteins and fats over carbohydrates, but make sure to take a vitamin and mineral supplement (no iron, unless you are actually anemic!) and get adequate (higher than RDA, but I'm not going to prescribe! ) amounts of Vitamins D and E. Healing takes calories, but it needs nutrition more!

And a collagen supplement might be valuable. I've been surprised by how it nearly eliminated my severe post-exercise muscle pain. I still get sore, but it lasts 1 day, not 5.

Prayers for strength!

Summerthyme

 

[Wildwood]

First, I'm so glad you are out of the hospital and on the road to recovery!

Next, don't give up on melatonin. The dreams eventually go away. It took a few tries but they eventually went away and I couldn't live without it now. It not only helps me go to sleep, it helps me stay asleep and fall back asleep if I wake up in the middle of the night and I think I get a deeper sleep. I cut way back on my dose to the point the dreams stopped (1.5 if memory serves) and slowly built up a tolerance to the higher doses. I've been on 7.5 for a few years now...it's my sweet spot. I like the chewable kind...they are easier to break apart for a lower dose and they work quickly.

 

[Kathy in FL]

Warm cup of milk at night. Carb crash puts my family to sleep. If you don’t like plain milk then try butterscotch milk, golden milk (has turmeric in it), milk with a bit of mint, or ye ol’ standby chocolate milk. Best kept secret for the ADD kid is a small scoop of ice cream at night … again, the carb crash slows things down enough that rest comes whether you mean it to or not.

That said, stay away from sugar. And watch what time of day you have caffeine whether that is coffee or anything else.

And try a super B complex supplement. You can find it in pill form but I also take my B’s in liquid form due to trouble with my stomach emptying which means poor vitamin absorption.

Sunshine also helps a great deal. It is a mood enhancer on top of all its other good qualities.

 

[summerthyme]

So does laughter... seriously, there have been studies showing it. There are plenty of hilarious YouTube videos for any type of humor... real life or staged, funny animals, etc. Old TV shows are still funny.

Praying for you!

Summerthyme

 

[momma_soapmaker]

They should have given you a spirometer in the hospital - the thing you blow into to move. USE IT! It's like a treadmill for your lungs. Several times every hour or two.

If you have a diffuser, eucalyptus, peppermint, etc are great to open things up. We even used a steaming pot of water with a towel over hub's head.

Also get up and walk around the house, even if you don't feel like it. Your lungs need it. Sleep in the recliner where you're more upright. Laying flat is harder on your lungs.

Things I wish I didn't know...

Feel better soon! Prayers going up.

 

[jward]

I was released 12 days ago ,after an eight days & nine nights confinement for pneumonia.
Weak as a kitten--->difficult falling asleep. O2 level -->steady 93/94
Melatonin gives me bad dreams.
Born 1935
My grandson ( a Nurse Anesthetist ) told me 3 days recovery per days in hospital. ?
Any pneumonia "survivors "out there? Advice or comments coveted.
GGK

welcome home!

Things I found useful were to do my breathing exercises- religiously, and move as much as humanly possible.

Beef bone broth with onion and garlic to keep the blood purified, and to help rebuild the red blood cells to transport that oxygen.

Lots of a variety of probiotics to help rebuild the internal flora and fauna, and general blood purifiers to help "get the cooties outta" all the transfused stuff. My medical professionals poohpoohed my efforts there, but I felt better for it.

It can be a long road, but if you keep working your programs, you'll get there. I also recommend a lot of sunshine and prayer and meditation; as that old indian proverb goes, you build within yourself that which you feed- so take in the best of everything, and count on his promise to see your healing. Gratitude/active spiritual program is a part of restoring balance to a system as is nutrition and excercise, imho

 

[sssarawolf]

Good to hear you are home. Don't over do anything as far as getting back to what you used to do. Lots of good advice from those here ahead of me.

 

[Dennis Olson]

after an eight days & nine nights confinement for pneumonia.
Weak as a kitten

Welcome to MY world, but make it TEN WEEKS rather than 8 days. Then you’ll know “weak as a kitten”.


Good luck in your recovery.

 

[Anti-Liberal]

Spent 3 weeks in the hospital in Sept '22. They had to cut my lung open and scrap the sludge out of it. After I was released it was still over a month before I went back to work, should of waited another week or two. I lost 40 lbs in 3 weeks. It hurt like nothing I've ever experienced.

 

[Border Collie Dad]

They should have given you a spirometer in the hospital - the thing you blow into to move. USE IT! It's like a treadmill for your lungs. Several times every hour or two.

Use this!

Next, don't give up on melatonin

Here is my "sleep cocktail."
Melatonin, valerian root, l-theanine and 5-HTP.
I take this every night.
For me, I get 3-5 hours I wouldn't n ormally get.

Have you had the pneumonia vaccine? Medical Industry's best kept secret . . .

No offense meant but...
My pneumonia was caused by blood clots; not an alleged virus.
So a vaccine would not have helped me.
If they really help anyone.
I am an anti-vaxxer, to clarify

 

[Terrwyn]

No advice just congrats that you are still with us.

 

[FMJ]

Took me six weeks to recover at home and get off supplemental O2. Congrats on surviving the whole hospital thing. Give yourself time. Set reasonable goals. Try hard not to add any additional injury that would slow your recovery.

Welcome to MY world, but make it TEN WEEKS rather than 8 days. Then you’ll know “weak as a kitten”.


Good luck in your recovery.

Don’t know how you did it, Dennis. After 2 weeks, I was sure they were just keeping me around until I kicked off to bolster their covid death numbers for the government bonus.

 

[colonel holman]

Recovery time depends on how physically fit you were going into it.
The difference between fit vs non-fit can be huge.
I see it every day in my PT clinic
This input does not help your situation, but it is a huge reminder for the rest of us. Just a good 20 minute walk daily is all it takes to save your ass going into a serious illness and its recovery. A stationary bike replaces this when outdoor weather prevents that walking

 

[WanderLore]

One day in hospital bed supposed to equal 3 days of recovery time. I'd say more depending. All good advice

 

[lisa]

You're home...that's the good news...recovery time is what it is. Work toward it a little more everyday but realize your body has been through a trauma so be nice to yourself. Keep moving...push yourself a little more everyday but not too much. The old addage...Use it or lose it is true...especially as we age so keep moving. Your sleep schedule got messed up in the hospital...sleep when you can..take naps and don't fret it or push it because "you should be asleep at this hour". Eventually your body will normalize more.

 

[hd5574]

Use cans of veggies or soup from the pantry as free weights for your arms... Not too heavy to get lots of reps... just enough weight to help you...get your arm muscle back...

 

[TxGal]

DH had pneumonia twice - in his 30s - he never needed hospitalization, but was home from work for several weeks and then on light duty several more. Took him probably a few months to get his regular energy back. (side note - after that he did get the 1st pneumonia vax, due to his history; it was unusual for younger folks to get it. This was in the 80s; he never had pneumonia again, had his second pneumonia shot as a senior).

He also cannot take melatonin. He's one that has violent bad dreams that wake him yelling and thrashing. I take it every night and find it helpful, no bad dreams. Everyone is different.

If you can, along with regular recovery methods, try to spent time sitting in the sunshine and fresh air, and walking a bit outside if you can. There is something magical about being out in the fresh air and sunshine.

We'll keep you in our prayers!

 

[Griz3752]

I was released 12 days ago ,after an eight days & nine nights confinement for pneumonia.
Weak as a kitten--->difficult falling asleep. O2 level -->steady 93/94
Melatonin gives me bad dreams.
Born 1935
My grandson ( a Nurse Anesthetist ) told me 3 days recovery per days in hospital. ?
Any pneumonia "survivors "out there? Advice or comments coveted.
GGK

First congratulations on getting back home.

I had it 3 times plus a couple of other serious lung issues. Never bad enough to be hospitalised though and, as you're a decade older than me and my events happened in my 30s-50s (1 per decade) I was a whole lot younger at the time.

I think we've all had trouble sleeping at one time or another but as my wife (well, all of those still alive) will attest me going to sleep isn't an issue.

As to Pneumonia recurrences, I'm very careful about getting a cold etc but so far, so good and no follow-on issues from treatment or meds.
I don't recall every taking melatonin but, from the number of people I know or read on forums, that's another bullet I've dodged.

 

[hummer]

I was released 12 days ago ,after an eight days & nine nights confinement for pneumonia.
Weak as a kitten--->difficult falling asleep. O2 level -->steady 93/94
Melatonin gives me bad dreams.
Born 1935
My grandson ( a Nurse Anesthetist ) told me 3 days recovery per days in hospital. ?
Any pneumonia "survivors "out there? Advice or comments coveted.
GGK

Happy that you made it home. After successful valve transplant last July, I went back into hospital
, spending the next 7 months between the hospital, and 2 assisted living facilities, and my daughters home before I could come back to my home and live without assistance. I fought...very low magnesium, pneumonia, RSV, and Covid. I am still not fully recovered from the Covid.
Please try to keep on a very heathy diet...keep your lungs clear. I use my inhalers, and a mask and respirator. the respirator working much better over the inhalers. Check it out with your doctors. Get mild exercise daily. I am doing light weight exercises for both upper and lower Body, and walking, and using my stationary exercise bike.
Again, I am so very happy it wasn't worse for you, and that you are now home. hummer

P.S. I lost 45+ pounds during my ordeal. try to keep a healthy weight, as it helps you heal.
Yes also to soup cans for upper body exercises, and a spirometer for your Lungs!
Yes also to pneumonia shot and booster.

 

[patriotgal]

There is life after pneumonia - eventually. Nearly died from it myself. The advice above (sans Vax maybe) is good advice. Just don't expect to quickly get back to normal. It takes time.

 

[Gitche Gumee Kid]

Thank you . Thank you ,my dear TB2K contributors.
All suggestions, taken under advisement LOL May the Lord bless you all.
GGK

 

[Kathy in FL]

A humdifier with your preferred esseential oil may help soothe your breathing as well as help put you in a healing mood.

I am a proponent of aromatherapy. Cedar, pine can be soothing for sleep. Citrus-y smells are my preferred smells and flowers that have similar scents. I don’t like musk as it depresses me. And i am allergic to lavender. You just need to find what relaxes you or peps you up.

 

[Profit of Doom]

Sing. We don't care if you're good at it. Put on your favorite songs and sing along as loud as you can.

Sing like nobody’s listening.

 

[Profit of Doom]

Have you had the pneumonia vaccine? Medical Industry's best kept secret . . .

vitamin C, sunshine, stay away from negative people, protein, chocolate!

D3 wouldn’t hurt.

 

[Shadow]

I have recovered from several surgeries that had me laid up for a while. It takes time to recover strength and endurance, longer as I get older. You have been given lots of good advice. I recommend keeping a record of what you do daily. Set what you have done as the minimum for the next day you exercise. It will help you see progress.

Not all melatonin is the same. I have Natures Bounty that my body does not like, but I use Natrol from Costco that works well and has no side effects. I have always had a difficult time falling asleep and staying asleep. I seem to recall that melatonin is helpful in healing.

Shadow

 

[Dennis Olson]

Melatonin’s only purpose is as a sleep aid. Read up on it.

 

[Shadow]

Melatonin’s only purpose is as a sleep aid. Read up on it.

Been busy today. Here are two sources that do not sell the product.

Melatonin
Mayo Clinic
Melatonin - Mayo Clinic

Research on melatonin use for specific conditions shows:

“Research suggests that melatonin might reduce evening confusion and restlessness in people with Alzheimer's disease,”

“Immunosuppressants. Melatonin can stimulate immune function”


WebMD

MELATONIN: Overview, Uses, Side Effects, Precautions, Interactions, Dosing and Reviews

“Cancer. Taking high doses of melatonin by mouth or as a shot, administered by a healthcare provider along with chemotherapy or other cancer treatments, might reduce tumor size and improve survival rates in some people with cancer.”

“High blood pressure. Taking the controlled-release form of melatonin by mouth before bedtime seems to lower blood pressure in people with high blood pressure. Immediate-release products don't seem to work.”

“Migraine. Taking melatonin by mouth before bed can prevent migraines in adults and children.”

“Anxiety before a procedure. Taking melatonin by mouth or under the tongue somewhat reduces anxiety before surgery in adults. “

“Taking melatonin by mouth can improve low blood platelet counts associated with cancer, cancer treatment, and other disorders.”



There are numerous other references made through this forum. I am short on time to search.

Shadow

 

[Marie]

Had it twice when I was much younger. Moving your lungs is the most important. Your strength will come back faster than you think. Here's a helpful tip-Don't get on the floor to clean up dog puke right after even as a young whipper snapper. You'll have to yell to your neighbors to come rescue you back up. Vitamins ,vitamins ,vitamins and good nutrition will have to be forced if your not hungry.

 

[Wildwood]

Been busy today. Here are two sources that do not sell the product.

Melatonin
Mayo Clinic
Melatonin - Mayo Clinic

Research on melatonin use for specific conditions shows:

“Research suggests that melatonin might reduce evening confusion and restlessness in people with Alzheimer's disease,”

“Immunosuppressants. Melatonin can stimulate immune function”


WebMD

MELATONIN: Overview, Uses, Side Effects, Precautions, Interactions, Dosing and Reviews

“Cancer. Taking high doses of melatonin by mouth or as a shot, administered by a healthcare provider along with chemotherapy or other cancer treatments, might reduce tumor size and improve survival rates in some people with cancer.”

“High blood pressure. Taking the controlled-release form of melatonin by mouth before bedtime seems to lower blood pressure in people with high blood pressure. Immediate-release products don't seem to work.”

“Migraine. Taking melatonin by mouth before bed can prevent migraines in adults and children.”

“Anxiety before a procedure. Taking melatonin by mouth or under the tongue somewhat reduces anxiety before surgery in adults. “

“Taking melatonin by mouth can improve low blood platelet counts associated with cancer, cancer treatment, and other disorders.”



There are numerous other references made through this forum. I am short on time to search.

Shadow

Thanks for taking the time to post that...I was not aware of some of the benefits.

I don't suppose you have any thoughts about the optimum dosage. I know that the covid protocol recommended working your way up to 10mg. Info out there is all over the place. FWIW and for anybody interested, I do feel it's better to work your way up slowly if you have issues with it like I did. Now I'm curious about the maximum safe dose and I'm off to do some research.

 

[Shadow]

Thanks for taking the time to post that...I was not aware of some of the benefits.

I don't suppose you have any thoughts about the optimum dosage. I know that the covid protocol recommended working your way up to 10mg. Info out there is all over the place. FWIW and for anybody interested, I do feel it's better to work your way up slowly if you have issues with it like I did. Now I'm curious about the maximum safe dose and I'm off to do some research.

I agree with your assessment. peoples sensitivity to drugs is very individual. I worked up to 15mg and keep it there. I have read, in the many thousands of pages here, of someone taking a "therapeutic dose" of 150mg for a short period of time. I do not even remember what it was for.

I will look for more when I have more time.

Shadow

 

[night driver]

Helen was right. LOUDLY!!

This will help you expand and extend your breathing!

Seriously, crank up a stereo and sing LOUDLY!! You'll be glad you did.

 

[Wildwood]

I agree with your assessment. peoples sensitivity to drugs is very individual. I worked up to 15mg and keep it there. I have read, in the many thousands of pages here, of someone taking a "therapeutic dose" of 150mg for a short period of time. I do not even remember what it was for.

I will look for more when I have more time.

Shadow

Thank you so much for that info. I appreciate your research!

 

[Shadow]

Thanks for taking the time to post that...I was not aware of some of the benefits.

I don't suppose you have any thoughts about the optimum dosage. I know that the covid protocol recommended working your way up to 10mg. Info out there is all over the place. FWIW and for anybody interested, I do feel it's better to work your way up slowly if you have issues with it like I did. Now I'm curious about the maximum safe dose and I'm off to do some research.

This is what I found going back two years. Food for thought and some have other references that may be useful.

Melatonin search

CORONA - Main Coronavirus thread | Page 1765 | Timebomb 2000 post 70,562

IJMS | Free Full-Text | Redox Homeostasis Alteration Is Restored through Melatonin Treatment in COVID-19 Patients: A Preliminary Study

Ebola virus disease: potential use of melatonin as a treatment - Tan - 2014 - Journal of Pineal Research - Wiley Online Library

Melatonin as an antioxidant: under promises but over delivers - PubMed

Melatonin as a master regulator of cell death and inflammation: molecular mechanisms and clinical implications for newborn care | Cell Death & Disease

High dose melatonin was used by this doctor during COVID. Dr. Neel's presentation: May 10, 2021 High Dose Melatonin - YouTube

CHAT - Q Thread Part Deux | Page 2377 | Timebomb 2000 Post 90,075

(1) CHAT - Q Thread Part Deux | Page 2230 | Timebomb 2000 post 89,187

(1) CHAT - Q Thread Part Deux | Page 2231 | Timebomb 2000 post 89,222

CHAT - Q Thread Part Deux | Page 2232 | Timebomb 2000 post 89,278

CHAT - Q Thread Part Deux | Page 2231 | Timebomb 2000 post 89,216

CHAT - Q Thread Part Deux | Page 2165 | Timebomb 2000 post 86,575

CHAT - Q Thread Part Deux | Page 2105 | Timebomb 2000 post 84,174

Health - Help needed for wife, cytokine storm I think? | Timebomb 2000 post 22

HEALTH - Diabetes | Page 2 | Timebomb 2000 post 55

CHAT - Q Thread Part Deux | Page 2535 | Timebomb 2000 post 101,376

Health - Help needed for wife, cytokine storm I think? | Timebomb 2000 post 4

Melatonin - Though popularly marketed as a sleep aid, melatonin also has other valuable anti-inflammatory properties that can help stop a cytokine storm. This compound can inhibit the pathways leading to the production of both TNF-alpha and IFN-gamma, as well as the pathways leading to the production of certain other problematic inflammatory cytokines. Melatonin may be taken in supplement form, and/or it may be obtained from certain foods, including celery, barley, turmeric, black pepper, fennel, coriander, flaxseeds, and more.

CORONA - Main Coronavirus thread | Page 1722 | Timebomb 2000 post 68,860

 

[Knoxville's Joker]

Have you had the pneumonia vaccine? Medical Industry's best kept secret . . .

vitamin C, sunshine, stay away from negative people, protein, chocolate!

And stay away from idiots that raise blood pressure too...

 

[Wildwood]

This is what I found going back two years. Food for thought and some have other references that may be useful.

Melatonin search

CORONA - Main Coronavirus thread | Page 1765 | Timebomb 2000 post 70,562

IJMS | Free Full-Text | Redox Homeostasis Alteration Is Restored through Melatonin Treatment in COVID-19 Patients: A Preliminary Study

Ebola virus disease: potential use of melatonin as a treatment - Tan - 2014 - Journal of Pineal Research - Wiley Online Library

Melatonin as an antioxidant: under promises but over delivers - PubMed

Melatonin as a master regulator of cell death and inflammation: molecular mechanisms and clinical implications for newborn care | Cell Death & Disease

High dose melatonin was used by this doctor during COVID. Dr. Neel's presentation: May 10, 2021 High Dose Melatonin - YouTube

CHAT - Q Thread Part Deux | Page 2377 | Timebomb 2000 Post 90,075

(1) CHAT - Q Thread Part Deux | Page 2230 | Timebomb 2000 post 89,187

(1) CHAT - Q Thread Part Deux | Page 2231 | Timebomb 2000 post 89,222

CHAT - Q Thread Part Deux | Page 2232 | Timebomb 2000 post 89,278

CHAT - Q Thread Part Deux | Page 2231 | Timebomb 2000 post 89,216

CHAT - Q Thread Part Deux | Page 2165 | Timebomb 2000 post 86,575

CHAT - Q Thread Part Deux | Page 2105 | Timebomb 2000 post 84,174

Health - Help needed for wife, cytokine storm I think? | Timebomb 2000 post 22

HEALTH - Diabetes | Page 2 | Timebomb 2000 post 55

CHAT - Q Thread Part Deux | Page 2535 | Timebomb 2000 post 101,376

Health - Help needed for wife, cytokine storm I think? | Timebomb 2000 post 4

Melatonin - Though popularly marketed as a sleep aid, melatonin also has other valuable anti-inflammatory properties that can help stop a cytokine storm. This compound can inhibit the pathways leading to the production of both TNF-alpha and IFN-gamma, as well as the pathways leading to the production of certain other problematic inflammatory cytokines. Melatonin may be taken in supplement form, and/or it may be obtained from certain foods, including celery, barley, turmeric, black pepper, fennel, coriander, flaxseeds, and more.

CORONA - Main Coronavirus thread | Page 1722 | Timebomb 2000 post 68,860

You went above and beyond! I have the grandkids right now but will be doing some reading tonight...thank you.