FOOD Portland police officers guard Fred Meyer dumpsters, face off with residents seeking discarded food

1911user

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Portland police officers guard Fred Meyer dumpsters, face off with residents seeking discarded food
Updated 11:09 AM; Today 9:50 PM

Portlanders gather perishable foods from dumpster
By Jayati Ramakrishnan | The Oregonian/OregonLive and Beth Nakamura | The Oregonian/OregonLive
Updated Wednesday, Feb. 12, 2021.

Roughly a dozen Portland police officers faced off with a small group at a Northeast Portland Fred Meyer on Tuesday after people tried to take food that had been thrown away.

Workers at the Hollywood West Fred Meyer threw away thousands of perishable items because the store, like many others, had lost power in an outage brought on by the region’s winter storm.

Images on social media showed mountains of packaged meat, cheese and juice, as well as whole turkeys and racks of ribs that had been tossed into two large dumpsters near the store.

A few people gathered about 2:30 p.m. at the store, 3030 N.E. Weidler St., in hopes of salvaging the food.

But within a few hours, people seeking food from the dumpsters began to report police officers showing up to guard the dumpsters and prevent people from taking the items.

Morgan Mckniff, a prominent activist and outspoken Portland police critic who lives in the neighborhood, said employees were guarding the dumpsters when they showed up to get some of the discarded food. Mckniff began to film the employees and reported staff members threatened to call the police on them for doing so.

The store manager called police shortly thereafter, Mckniff said, and Mckniff began livestreaming the interaction on Instagram.

“After that, other people started showing up and asking them, ‘Why are you guys guarding a dumpster?’” Mckniff said.

Mckniff said about 15 people eventually gathered in an attempt to collect food.

At that point, Mckniff said, a dozen officers arrived at the scene. One officer wasn’t wearing a mask and refused to put one on until a supervisor arrived and brought him one, according to Mckniff.

On Wednesday, Portland police said officers were sent to the scene after employees said “they felt the situation was escalating and feared there may be a physical confrontation,” a police spokesman said in a statement.

Also on Wednesday, a Fred Meyer spokesman responded to what had become a deluge of criticism, noting the company donates more than five million pounds of food annually.

“Unfortunately, due to loss of power at this store, some perishable food was no longer safe for donation to local hunger relief agencies,” the company wrote. “Our store team became concerned that area residents would consume the food and risk food borne illness, and they engaged local law enforcement out of an abundance of caution. We apologize for the confusion.”

Juniper Simonis, a well-known activist and researcher who arrived to document the police presence, said officers showed up and threatened those on hand with arrest — at which point the crowd moved across the street.

Simonis, also an environmental biologist and data scientist, said they took out their press badge and went closer to take photos of the officers, who were standing in front of the bins full of food.

“I’m just interacting with officers and trying to get their information, and then they say, ‘We’re going to arrest you if you don’t leave,’ and threatened me with trespassing,” Simonis said.

Simonis was bewildered by the threat of arrest.

“I was documenting the police, not what was in the dumpster,” they said. “I wasn’t going over there. And the police got the store manager to threaten me with trespassing.”

For their part, police said they tried to explain to the group that the food was spoiled, but “no subject in the crowd was willing to have an open dialogue with the officers and continued to shout insults at them and store employees,” a spokesman said.

Simonis said police eventually left and those waiting to get food made their way over to the dumpsters. As of 6:30 p.m., about two dozen people were at the dumpsters, taking a few items each.

Simonis noted that all the food was still in good condition, given the cold weather. One person picked up a carton of juice with an expiration date in March.

Both Mckniff and Simonis said the immediate action to prevent people from taking the discarded food speaks to the value the city places on providing aid to those in need.

The run-in also came as the region reeled from a winter storm that brought on widespread power outages that left many people unable to salvage perishable items in their refrigerators.

“The people who were there weren’t there for selfish reasons — they were there to get food to distribute to hungry people around the city,” Simonis said. “There are mutual aid groups that have been helping feed people at warming centers, because the city doesn’t have enough resources to feed them.”

Multnomah County kept emergency severe weather shelters open Monday, taking to social media to ask for volunteers to keep the doors open an additional night. More than 300,000 people and businesses lost power over the weekend, with nearly all of the area’s hotels filling up as people tried to escape the cold.

Mckniff said many of the people police threatened with arrest and turned away are regular customers of the store.

“I live in this neighborhood. This neighborhood doesn’t have power,” Mckniff said. “And Fred Meyer is telling people in this immediate community who shop here that they can’t have these things they’re throwing away. Cheese, pickles, yogurt — things that are intentionally cultured and cured.”

Simonis said it’s hard to rationalize the actions by police and the store.

“None of this makes sense to me except through the lens of severely ingrained policing and a culture of disrespect for human dignity,” they said.

They noted parallels between the Fred Meyer incident and Portland protests.

Simonis, for their part, is one of several plaintiffs in a lawsuit that alleges local, state and federal officers violated the rights of people with disabilities through aggressive police responses to the protests.

“Here it’s not broken windows, it’s tossed away but otherwise completely fine food,” Simonis said. “It’s not a bad situation or vandalism, it’s literally the exact opposite — feeding hungry people. Yet they still use the same apparatus to prevent anything from being done.”
 

20Gauge

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I feel for both parties.

If Freds allows them to take the food, they will be sued. I say WILL as some idiot will make themselves sick by not following any safety protocols. Under cooking or what ever....

IF Freds prevents them from getting the food, they will be sued or a government agency will slam them....

As far as the others, I can understand, food can be hard to get at times.
 

hunybee

Veteran Member
Another reason not to be a police officer .....


or maybe a politician.

maybe they are just lazy. lol

they was just thinking outside the box in an emergency situation.

this proves the point many were trying to make.


that is not directed at you, love.
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
“Unfortunately, due to loss of power at this store, some perishable food was no longer safe for donation to local hunger relief agencies,” the company wrote. “Our store team became concerned that area residents would consume the food and risk food borne illness, and they engaged local law enforcement out of an abundance of caution. We apologize for the confusion.”

Valid concern, but a public relations nightmare.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
Daddy! Daddy!

What did you do today? Get any bad guys???

Yes I did! I arrested 3 people for trying to steal from the dumpsters......
 

Bps1691

Veteran Member
A sign of the times.

As many have already said if anyone taking food from the dumpster gets sick for any reason, you know that some lawyer would sue the store for a fortune. The store would settle out of court to save the bad publicity. With one success, hundreds who didn't get food from the dumpster would sign up with the same lawyer to sue.

Once upon a time the first case would be thrown out of court, now it becomes a gravy train for a handful of lawyers and a nightmare for the company being sued.
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
Why doesn't the store have a back up generator??

Grocery stores are an essential business. You'd think they'd be prepared for power outages. I think all that food they threw out surely cost more than on emergency generator? How about a little planning here people.

As for suing the store for them getting sick from dumpster diving, that shouldn't even make it to a court room.

"Why are you suing the market?"

"I got food poisoning from their food."

"Do you have a recipe?"

"No your honor, I got the food out of their dumpster."

"Well then you're an IDIOT. Case dismissed."
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
Valid concern, but a public relations nightmare.
It didn't have to be. The food could have been donated and distributed by local hospitals, food banks, soup kitchens, church pantries, nursing homes, fire houses or schools. Possibly even florists? You might be surprised at the places with backup power and refrigeration. Just because Meyer couldn't store, process and/or distribute the food before spoilage occured doesn't mean other local facilities weren't capable of taking up the slack.

IMO when it was obvious apparent the power wasn't going to be coming on and the temps in the freezer and fridges were getting close to legal limits some calls should have been made. Better would have been to have an agreement and logistics worked out and in place beforehand with the charitable institutions.
 
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hunybee

Veteran Member
Why doesn't the store have a back up generator??

Grocery stores are an essential business. You'd think they'd be prepared for power outages. I think all that food they threw out surely cost more than on emergency generator? How about a little planning here people.

As for suing the store for them getting sick from dumpster diving, that shouldn't even make it to a court room.

"Why are you suing the market?"

"I got food poisoning from their food."

"Do you have a recipe?"

"No your honor, I got the food out of their dumpster."

"Well then you're an IDIOT. Case dismissed."


that all sounds logical and like common sense.

it is meaningless.

one would think this is a slam dunk and it SHOULDN'T ever get to court, but they do all the time and businesses already have been reamed for this. that is why they are so insane about locking down the dumpsters.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
For the question regarding generators.....

They often do have them, but due to budget pressures, fail to maintain them. The local Walmart did that and when the power went out they realized they didn't hook up the natural gas to run it.

They also trashed the covers for the frozen foods so they could keep them cool.

A lot of money went into the trash can that day when the power went out.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
For the question regarding generators.....

They often do have them, but due to budget pressures, fail to maintain them. The local Walmart did that and when the power went out they realized they didn't hook up the natural gas to run it.

They also trashed the covers for the frozen foods so they could keep them cool.

A lot of money went into the trash can that day when the power went out.

It is not just an issue of maintenance, but also one of them being limited by the local air quality district as to how much they can run it. And if it is of a certain age, whether they can run it at all.
 

Faroe

Un-spun
It IS their food to throw away. All retail throws away HUGE amounts of useful stuff - if they went to the effort to re-purpose/re-home that stuff they would be out of business. Sometimes, throwing risky merchandise away is the most efficient answer. When I worked for Sears, the store dumpster was in a separate area, but essentially inside.

*Inside* might be too stinky for a grocery, but in this day, any grocery that lets people SEE food getting tossed is putting itself in a stupid position. The dumpster should be totally out of sight and w/o public access.
 

Milkweed Host

Veteran Member
Dumpster diving has been going on for eons. We have plenty of cops available to
keep hungry people away from the now buffet dumpsters but no where in sight to chase the BLM's garbage off.
The dumpster clientele have been doing this long enough to know what's good or bad.

This is so f'kup.
 

Faroe

Un-spun
It didn't have to be. The food could have been donated and distributed by local hospitals, food banks, soup kitchens, church pantries, nursing homes, fire houses or schools. Possibly even florists? You might be surprised at the places with backup power and refrigeration. Just because Meyer couldn't store, process and/or distribute the food before spoilage occured doesn't mean other local facilities weren't capable of taking up the slack.

IMO when it was obvious apparent the power wasn't going to be coming on and the temps in the freezer and fridges were getting close to legal limits some calls should have been made. Better would have been to have an agreement and logistics worked out and in place beforehand with the charitable institutions.
And all those phone numbers will just magically show up? How about finding the people to transport it - in an ice storm. That is a LOT of logistics. Mgr's are busy with day to day operations, and Upper Mgt at the corporate level in another city is interested in the day to day sales. Sales and revenue are what gets rewarded, not handing out soon to be spoiled food.

Worrying about distributing food on the rare day the power is out is just not how business works. The store is not going to pay for staff to show up to handle that.
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
I worked in a small food shop when something similar happened. I got on the horn and rounded up some dry ice. Freezers were kept to temperature.
And all those phone numbers will just magically show up? How about finding the people to transport it - in an ice storm. That is a LOT of logistics. business works. The store is not going to pay for staff to show up to handle that.
Yup. This is exactly why it's important to have this worked out before hand. Stranger things have come together.

I remember when calls went out over the local radio stations for calls for those with four wheel drive vehicles to get doctors and nurses to and from hospitals for work.
 

Faroe

Un-spun
I worked in a small food shop when something similar happened. I got on the horn and rounded up some dry ice. Freezers were kept to temperature.
Yup. This is exactly why it's important to have this worked out before hand. Stranger things have come together.

I remember when calls went out over the local radio stations for calls for those with four wheel drive vehicles to get doctors and nurses to and from hospitals for work.
Sounds like you live in a community. Most places aren't.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
True story. Back when I was in the US Army our captain got pissed off at some of the stuff being thrown in the dumpsters out front of our barracks. Being a medic, which meant you did nothing most of the time, I was one of the soldiers assigned to guard the dumpster, keep a log of who dumped stuff in it, and what was dumped in. It took about a week for things to return to normal.
Like I said. F Troop was my military experience.
 

Matt

Veteran Member
It really isn't that hard to create a more pressing issue elsewhere to draw the cops away from what you are after, a couple raging dumpster fires a block or two away would have most likely done it!

Of course I possess the ability to foresee problems and plan ahead, therefore i don't have to dumpster dive:shr:
 
Too unusual not to post. Photos at the article link.


Portland police officers guard Fred Meyer dumpsters, face off with residents seeking discarded food
Updated 11:09 AM; Today 9:50 PM

Portlanders gather perishable foods from dumpster
By Jayati Ramakrishnan | The Oregonian/OregonLive and Beth Nakamura | The Oregonian/OregonLive
Updated Wednesday, Feb. 12, 2021.

Roughly a dozen Portland police officers faced off with a small group at a Northeast Portland Fred Meyer on Tuesday after people tried to take food that had been thrown away.

Workers at the Hollywood West Fred Meyer threw away thousands of perishable items because the store, like many others, had lost power in an outage brought on by the region’s winter storm.

Images on social media showed mountains of packaged meat, cheese and juice, as well as whole turkeys and racks of ribs that had been tossed into two large dumpsters near the store.

A few people gathered about 2:30 p.m. at the store, 3030 N.E. Weidler St., in hopes of salvaging the food.

But within a few hours, people seeking food from the dumpsters began to report police officers showing up to guard the dumpsters and prevent people from taking the items.

Morgan Mckniff, a prominent activist and outspoken Portland police critic who lives in the neighborhood, said employees were guarding the dumpsters when they showed up to get some of the discarded food. Mckniff began to film the employees and reported staff members threatened to call the police on them for doing so.

The store manager called police shortly thereafter, Mckniff said, and Mckniff began livestreaming the interaction on Instagram.

“After that, other people started showing up and asking them, ‘Why are you guys guarding a dumpster?’” Mckniff said.

Mckniff said about 15 people eventually gathered in an attempt to collect food.

At that point, Mckniff said, a dozen officers arrived at the scene. One officer wasn’t wearing a mask and refused to put one on until a supervisor arrived and brought him one, according to Mckniff.

On Wednesday, Portland police said officers were sent to the scene after employees said “they felt the situation was escalating and feared there may be a physical confrontation,” a police spokesman said in a statement.

Also on Wednesday, a Fred Meyer spokesman responded to what had become a deluge of criticism, noting the company donates more than five million pounds of food annually.

“Unfortunately, due to loss of power at this store, some perishable food was no longer safe for donation to local hunger relief agencies,” the company wrote. “Our store team became concerned that area residents would consume the food and risk food borne illness, and they engaged local law enforcement out of an abundance of caution. We apologize for the confusion.”

Juniper Simonis, a well-known activist and researcher who arrived to document the police presence, said officers showed up and threatened those on hand with arrest — at which point the crowd moved across the street.

Simonis, also an environmental biologist and data scientist, said they took out their press badge and went closer to take photos of the officers, who were standing in front of the bins full of food.

“I’m just interacting with officers and trying to get their information, and then they say, ‘We’re going to arrest you if you don’t leave,’ and threatened me with trespassing,” Simonis said.

Simonis was bewildered by the threat of arrest.

“I was documenting the police, not what was in the dumpster,” they said. “I wasn’t going over there. And the police got the store manager to threaten me with trespassing.”

For their part, police said they tried to explain to the group that the food was spoiled, but “no subject in the crowd was willing to have an open dialogue with the officers and continued to shout insults at them and store employees,” a spokesman said.

Simonis said police eventually left and those waiting to get food made their way over to the dumpsters. As of 6:30 p.m., about two dozen people were at the dumpsters, taking a few items each.

Simonis noted that all the food was still in good condition, given the cold weather. One person picked up a carton of juice with an expiration date in March.

Both Mckniff and Simonis said the immediate action to prevent people from taking the discarded food speaks to the value the city places on providing aid to those in need.

The run-in also came as the region reeled from a winter storm that brought on widespread power outages that left many people unable to salvage perishable items in their refrigerators.

“The people who were there weren’t there for selfish reasons — they were there to get food to distribute to hungry people around the city,” Simonis said. “There are mutual aid groups that have been helping feed people at warming centers, because the city doesn’t have enough resources to feed them.”

Multnomah County kept emergency severe weather shelters open Monday, taking to social media to ask for volunteers to keep the doors open an additional night. More than 300,000 people and businesses lost power over the weekend, with nearly all of the area’s hotels filling up as people tried to escape the cold.

Mckniff said many of the people police threatened with arrest and turned away are regular customers of the store.

“I live in this neighborhood. This neighborhood doesn’t have power,” Mckniff said. “And Fred Meyer is telling people in this immediate community who shop here that they can’t have these things they’re throwing away. Cheese, pickles, yogurt — things that are intentionally cultured and cured.”

Simonis said it’s hard to rationalize the actions by police and the store.

“None of this makes sense to me except through the lens of severely ingrained policing and a culture of disrespect for human dignity,” they said.

They noted parallels between the Fred Meyer incident and Portland protests.

Simonis, for their part, is one of several plaintiffs in a lawsuit that alleges local, state and federal officers violated the rights of people with disabilities through aggressive police responses to the protests.

“Here it’s not broken windows, it’s tossed away but otherwise completely fine food,” Simonis said. “It’s not a bad situation or vandalism, it’s literally the exact opposite — feeding hungry people. Yet they still use the same apparatus to prevent anything from being done.”
What the people needed to do was to wait until 2 or3 in the morning and THEN go there quietly to get food. Park the cars further away. My girlfriend many yrs ago used to have her little child crawl in the big door where they dump good clothing and bring out bags of clothing. I know another friend who is dead now they used to go to the local supermarket real late at night and get all kinds of good food in the dumpster. It's a shame America wastes so much food and people are starving. And how come they hardly even arrested antifa, but want to arrest these people who are HUNGRY?!!

Oh, and ten yrs ago or so i had a girlfriend who worked at a Butcher shop. They threw out good meat in the back dumpster and they pour some kind of bleach all over it so no one would take and eat it.
 
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Thunderdragon

Senior Member
They can’t allow anyone to eat it. Look at the health inspector video online with the inspector dancing with glory after closing a sports bar in California for a violation. The inspectors would not allow this grocery food to be handed out to the needy. They have to dispose of it. Destroy it The government will say. Against the rules they say to allow anyone to consume it. . Then if you’re do it and someone does consume it - will be multiple lawsuits filed as folks who consumed it will claim illness and will sue. I have owned restaurants in the past. Pretty much a nightmare all the way around. It is way worse today.
 

ioujc

MARANTHA!! Even so, come LORD JESUS!!!
Where I live, the grocery stores pour bleach over the food so that it cannot be eaten!
 
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