HEALTH Long Beach, Ca in state of emergency over TB outbreak

jward

jward

passin' thru
colonel holman

colonel holman

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Been around a while now, just not readily detected among all the illegals wanting to avoid contact with authorities. This, and other nasties, will establish a powerful foothold long before public gets wind of multiple epidemics/pandemics breaking out within US (and EU)
 
CaryC

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
jward said:
Mario Nawfal
@MarioNawfal

LONG BEACH IN STATE OF EMERGENCY OVER TB OUTBREAK

A public health emergency has just been called in Long Beach, California, after 1 person was found dead, and 9 were hospitalized from a confirmed outbreak of tuberculosis.

Officials are scrambling to prepare mass testing and treatment in the city.

Source: CBS News
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1786672816282030282
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No where in the article did it say they were illegals.

Just being sarcastic, even though it did not say, read between the lines type of reporting.

Is there a kind of thing like GTR for when a report won't name them but it is obvious it is them?

GTN? Guess the Nationality?

What makes this truly sad is CA has mediaid etc. for all the Illegals and this could have been prevented by the CA Health Dept. Paid for by the citizens of CA.

And if this gets out in the CA population, the good citizens of CA will get to pay for it again through the private Insurance Co.s.
 
Melodi

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Vulture45-70 said:
Hopefully lots more will be infected. My Heart pumps PISS for the state. Keep letting illegals in, watch more diseases crop up. Hope all that move, PLEASE STAY out of my state--FL
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You may want to rethink that. As Russia discovered when this hit their prisons a couple of decades ago, antibiotic-resistant TB (which they didn't say this was) and regular TB do NOT STAY in whatever "community" or prison it starts in. It can go directly from, say, a squalid immigrant flop house with 30 people stashed in it to the fast-food restaurant one works in, to the customers of those employees who then take it to their families. They can also infect people on the bus, in a crowded grocery store, in a primary school classroom, or wherever people breathe on each other. Which is to say, any enclosed room with people in it.

Once someone gets regular TB, it can take up to two years of regular antibiotics to get rid of it. It also costs thousands of taxpayer dollars because many states require that patients be monitored to ensure they get their dosages. People can be imprisoned for refusing to take them in some states.

With resistant TB, doctors are back to the old ways of surgery to remove parts of the lungs, isolating patients in REAL quarantines, hoping that time and good nutrition will help people fight it off and at least back into dormancy (when it is not contagious) or wait for the patient to die. Very often, death is the result.

I mean, you are welcome to your opinion, but I don't want to increase the number of infected people that could potentially kill me or my loved ones.
 
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school marm

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Profit of Doom said:
Suggestions? High dose D3?
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I've never seen anything indicating that high dose vitamin D would be effective; however, I've never looked for anything like that, either.

The following comes from one of my blog posts and is reproduced in Armageddon Pharmacy: Herbal Medicine When the Drugstore Is Closed, which came out on Amazon last month. The problem with a simple list is that it doesn't show how the herb must be prepared (and which supplies you had better have on hand) and administered, and which herbs may interact with medications you are already taking, or which must only be taken for short periods of time. Learning about herbal medicine isn't something to procrastinate.


"Arnica
Arrowleaf balsamroot
Garlic
Gumweed
Japanese barberry
Japanese honeysuckle
Juniper
Licorice
Lomatium
Mullein
Peppermint
Pine
Piperine
Plantain
Sagebrush
Sunflower
Usnea

Garlic is contraindicated for individuals taking warfarin or other anticoagulants or on HIV medications. Not a problem here, so the patient’s diet over the next few months of treatment will include lots of freshly prepared garlic. Teas or tinctures of gumweed, juniper, licorice, plantain, and/or sagebrush will be administered several times per day. As licorice shouldn’t be used long-term and is contraindicated in several groups of people, we’ll use it off and on in 10-day intervals. Peppermint essential oil will be inhaled several times per day. The numerous different preparations exist because some of the active constituents—the plant-based substances that are going to make you well—are extracted better with alcohol, or with water, or with heat, or are ruined by heat. The different applications function to get the medicine into direct contact with the afflicted tissue, whether through the bloodstream, on the skin, or through the organ that eliminates them—the liver, lungs, or kidneys. Some work fastest sublingually (under the tongue) and some work by direct contact with throat tissues."
 
Melodi

Melodi

Disaster Cat
It is common for TB to go dormant and "hide" in the body, often for decades. A considerable number of older Irish people are in this situation because, living in cramped quarters in tiny, damp cottages growing up, many were infected, but their healthy young bodies fought it back into a dormant state.

It can pop up again in old age as the natural immunity of youth begins to wane. Nightwolf had classes on this in medical school because it is a quiet but growing problem for the Health Service. These people are not contagious UNLESS or UNTIL the TB becomes active, but then they are.

Thankfully, most of the legacy Irish cases are older infections that do respond to antibiotics. As long as the infection is dormant, it can be nearly impossible to find because it can hide in all sorts of places in the body unrelated to the lungs. Sometimes, old scaring can be seen.

Oh, cold, wet, crowded living conditions combined with poor nutrition can cause hidden cases to resurface. This is probably part of what is happening with the initial outbreaks in immigrants from third-world countries, where most people get exposed at some point in their lives; they just don't become ill.
 
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Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane

Long Beach Hotel Housing 'Homeless' Sparks Tuberculosis Outbreak As Health Emergency Declared | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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Long Beach Hotel Housing 'Homeless' Sparks Tuberculosis Outbreak As Health Emergency Declared​


BY TYLER DURDEN
SATURDAY, MAY 04, 2024 - 02:35 PM
A health crisis has emerged for Democrat officials in Long Beach, California, following a tuberculosis outbreak linked to a hotel housing 'homeless' people, according to Fox News.

On Thursday, health officials declared a public health emergency after an alarming tuberculosis outbreak was reported at an unnamed hotel housing.

The city has so far confirmed 14 cases of tuberculosis in people "associated with a single room occupancy hotel." Nine of them were hospitalized with one fatal case. Another 170 people were "likely exposed" to the deadly bacteria.




"The outbreak is currently isolated to a distinct population and the risk to the general public is low," the city said, adding, "The population at risk in this outbreak has significant barriers to care, including homelessness and housing insecurity, mental illness, substance use and serious medical comorbidities."

The reason health officials declined to name the hotel or its location is to comply with Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act regulations.

One X user said, "I believe the name of the hotel SHOULD BE DISCLOSED in the interest of traveler safety. OR does this mean the hotel is used to house illegal aliens invading our border? Long Beach declares public health emergency after deadly tuberculosis outbreak."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1786488760256840049
View: https://twitter.com/msjudyholiday/status/1786488760256840049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1786488760256840049%7Ctwgr%5Ea97b463c4b1c098206f3d0c186965e0eb789e9e7%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fmedical%2Flong-beach-hotel-housing-homeless-sparks-tuberculosis-outbreak-officials-declare-health



The question now becomes if Long Beach officials were housing illegal migrants in the hotel...

If so, this isn't the first time unvaccinated and undocumented illegal aliens have sparked infectious disease outbreaks in hotels and shelters nationwide.
 
jward

jward

passin' thru
I'm going to include this additional post from the initial thread: it is not vetted treatment guidelines, and I don't sleep at the hilton and haven't even had a lung exray for almost two weeks, so, take it with much salt, and only use it to serve as a basis of your own research. . .

Red River Post
@red_river_post

Treating tuberculosis involves a combination of medications and a strict adherence to the prescribed treatment regimen. The World Health Organization (WHO) recommends a treatment regimen that includes four antimicrobial drugs for two months, followed by two drugs for an additional four to seven months, depending on the patient's response to the treatment.

The first-line drugs for treating tuberculosis are isoniazid, rifampicin, ethambutol, and pyrazinamide. These medications are usually taken for at least six months. In cases of drug-resistant TB, second-line drugs may be required, which are more expensive and can have more severe side effects.

It's crucial for patients to complete the full course of their medications as prescribed, even if they start feeling better after a few weeks. Stopping treatment early can lead to the development of drug-resistant TB, making the disease much harder to treat.

In addition to medication, a healthy lifestyle, including proper nutrition and rest, can aid in the recovery process. Regular follow-ups with healthcare providers are also important to monitor the patient's progress and adjust the treatment plan if necessary.

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rob0126

rob0126

Veteran Member
school marm said:
I've never seen anything indicating that high dose vitamin D would be effective; however, I've never looked for anything like that, either.

The following comes from one of my blog posts and is reproduced in Armageddon Pharmacy: Herbal Medicine When the Drugstore Is Closed, which came out on Amazon last month. The problem with a simple list is that it doesn't show how the herb must be prepared (and which supplies you had better have on hand) and administered, and which herbs may interact with medications you are already taking, or which must only be taken for short periods of time. Learning about herbal medicine isn't something to procrastinate.


"Arnica
Arrowleaf balsamroot
Garlic
Gumweed
Japanese barberry
Japanese honeysuckle
Juniper
Licorice
Lomatium
Mullein
Peppermint
Pine
Piperine
Plantain
Sagebrush
Sunflower
Usnea

Garlic is contraindicated for individuals taking warfarin or other anticoagulants or on HIV medications. Not a problem here, so the patient’s diet over the next few months of treatment will include lots of freshly prepared garlic. Teas or tinctures of gumweed, juniper, licorice, plantain, and/or sagebrush will be administered several times per day. As licorice shouldn’t be used long-term and is contraindicated in several groups of people, we’ll use it off and on in 10-day intervals. Peppermint essential oil will be inhaled several times per day. The numerous different preparations exist because some of the active constituents—the plant-based substances that are going to make you well—are extracted better with alcohol, or with water, or with heat, or are ruined by heat. The different applications function to get the medicine into direct contact with the afflicted tissue, whether through the bloodstream, on the skin, or through the organ that eliminates them—the liver, lungs, or kidneys. Some work fastest sublingually (under the tongue) and some work by direct contact with throat tissues."
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Kathy in FL

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Pinecone said:
Did you know that there is a Long Beach State University? So young people can get exposed there and move to another university system and spread this among the college students in other states. Oh, joy.

FJB!
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I don't know about all universities but many now require proof of uptodate MMR and TB. USF also requires, I think it is a HepC vax.

TB has been a problem in the homeless community for decades.
 
Melodi

Melodi

Disaster Cat
TB first made a bit of a comeback in the US during the early days of the HIV epidemic. For the same reasons, the elderly in Ireland are prone to it. Many people get exposed one way or another (including in modern America), but the issue never comes because their bodies fight it off. But often, there are tiny pockets still lingering somewhere in the body, doing nothing and causing no harm until a person's immunity breaks down from old age, HIV, or another strong illness (like the flu or a bad case of COVID-19). It happens in famines as well.

The HIV problem was NOT strictly in the gay communities. For a time, it was a big problem in US inner cities, starting with drug addicts but quickly moving into the larger population. That wave was, thankfully, the treatable kind. Over the years, it died back as HIV became a treatable condition, and public health departments in some major cities did take serious steps to try to contain the situation.

I don't know of any herbs or natural medicines that can CURE TB, though I'm sure many can help ease the system and help some people fight it back into dormancy. Sunshine and dry air can help; it allowed my grandmother (my father's mother) to live long enough to get married and have him. My family had a picture of her at 17 that was supposed to be her funeral portrait, but she was young and fortunate as the sanatorium worked. It also cost the family their farm and most of their savings.

And yes, this is not your grandmother's TB or, relatively, drug-resistant TB isn't. In the 1920s, they didn't know about antibiotics yet, so they had to use traditional treatments. With drug-resistant stuff, today's physicians are stuck in the same box, with the addiction of a few high-tech gadgets that can be used to help people keep breathing in extreme situations.
 
Shadow

Shadow

Swift, Silent,...Sleepy
If Timebomb is contagious I guess California is a good place for it to start.

Shadow
 
pauldingbabe

pauldingbabe

The Great Cat
My Grandmother spent 9 months in a TB sanatorium in 1952. Her husband and 9 month old DD (my mother), went to see her on Sundays. They got to talk through 2 chain link fences.

My Grandmother was lucky, only 9 months. Her 4 other sisters were there a lot longer. The youngest sister was there 2.5 years.

Small little Sandy Hook, Kentucky.
 
CaryC

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
school marm said:
Yes. Most of them were in the western states with lots of sunshine, low humidity, nutritious food, and lots of rest.
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Actually had one up the road from us, here in MS. I bet the thing had 12 chimneys, and 3 stories high. All off to itself out in a field. My aunt went there when my dad came home from the Army on vaca in early 1941, and saw her condition and paid to have her put in it. She survived, and died a couple of years ago.

The odd thing about it, my aunt above, her mother, and a sister all had TB, and being poor southern share croppers, without electricity, all worked and lived outside in the sun. They hoed and picked cotton, had huge truck patch veggie gardens, no lawn mowers, so scraped the yard with hoes. Did laundry outside in No. 3 wash tubs (and baths) and cast iron pots over a fire, and a wash board.

My aunt stayed outside so much she had a permanent tan, on her arms.

My point is before, and during her TB she got plenty and more sun, than you could shake a stick at.
 
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