USA High School Cheerleader Coach Fired After Posing Nude For Playboy

[Fisher]

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Cheerleader Coach Fired After Posing Nude
Sacramento Area Woman Ousted From High School After Playboy Pictorial
April 15, 2009

(CBS) Ron Jones with CBS 13 in Sacramento has the story about a local woman who was fired from her job as a cheerleading coach after she turned up in Playboy magazine.

"The girls are supposed to look up their coaches," says one concerned parent at Casa Robles High School.

Carlie Christine bared all, all over the internet. Casa Robles High School officials in Orangevale confirm with CBS13 that their girl's cheerleading coach, Carlie Christine, was the one who posed nude in a playboy centerfold.

Christine is also Playboy's 'cyber girl of the week.'

Parents and some students, who did not want to be identified, exposed the coach to school officials after rumors started slowly getting out that she had posed nude.

"I think it's unacceptable. It's not fair," says Jamye Curtis.

What apparently uncovered the coach was when some girls didn't make the cheerleading squad because they had a few unexcused absences from school. Their parents then made copies of Christine and dropped the pictures on the principal's desk.

 

[Fred]

What apparently uncovered the coach was when some girls didn't make the cheerleading squad because they had a few unexcused absences from school. Their parents then made copies of Christine and dropped the pictures on the principal's desk.

Nothing like teaching your kids the proper way to succeed in life.

 

[Griffon]

Hey I finally get to be first...

 

[Donald Shimoda]

Parents and some students, who did not want to be identified, exposed the coach to school officials after rumors started slowly getting out that she had posed nude.



What apparently uncovered the coach was when some girls didn't make the cheerleading squad because they had a few unexcused absences from school. Their parents then made copies of Christine and dropped the pictures on the principal's desk.

Nothing like teaching your kids the proper way to succeed in life.

Howdy, Folks!


Of course! We are teaching them that there is no such thing as personal responsibility, and passive-aggressive WORKS.


Supposed to show up at school? Can't account for time away from class, and therefore don't get to participate in certain activities as a result?

Get YOUR PARENTS to sic the establishment onto an individual, and destroy their power base - remove their current ability to put groceries on the table and a roof over their head.

That way, your hands are CLEAN - YOU didn't do anything; it was the teacher's fault or the big bad school board.

Scary what kids are learning, these days...

 

[fruit loop]

I'm sick of what people do in their private lives, off the clock, becoming the employer's business.

 

[kemosabe]

 

[Mr. Mason]

Hey I finally get to be first...

 

[Grim]

Isn’t the coach being a little bit naive? I live in the mid-west and even with half a brain the teacher/coach should have known there would be repercussions from this act. Maybe it is different in Sacramento.

Whether you agree with the parents or not, most parents don’t want their children’s coach posing nude. She should have considered this fact. Maybe she did and decided it was worth risking her coaching job.

This looks to me like a story that is slanted to gain sympathy for the coach. The reporter is blaming this on a small group of disgruntled parents, who were out to get the coach. It doesn’t make sense that only the girls that had been cut had parents who knew about the photos. It seams to me, when I went to school if one of the teachers/coaches had nude photos easily available they would have quickly been spread to every red-blooded male at the school. No way this would have remained a secret. The most reasonable explanation would be, lots of parents and students probably knew and complained.

 

[Walker10]

I'm sick of what people do in their private lives, off the clock, becoming the employer's business.

Most of the time you'd be right, but it seems to me that in a matter like this, the person is also a role model. As such, perhaps she should have excersized better judgemment and taken that into consideration before posing.

 

[dieseltrooper]

I'm watching the parents and the girl with the absences on NBC now. My question would be: How did you find the playboy shots? Where were you surfing?? Cheerleaders... Sheesh.... Do these parents think their little princess girls are virginal, drug free and morally pure?

 

[Grim]

I'm sick of what people do in their private lives, off the clock, becoming the employer's business.

I agree about 50% of the time.

I wouldn’t like a carpet cleaning company sending someone in my home that had been arrested for burglary. I wouldn’t want my son’s swim coach to be a member of the “Men Who Love Boys Association”. I wouldn’t want a pilot who had started experimenting with LSD. And I prefer that my children’s teachers/coaches keep their clothes on, when posing for pictures.

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

If only Ike were there...

http://www.southparkstudios.com/guide/1010/

 

[Copter Doctor]

Does she pay her income tax?

 

[Seabear]

Apparently it was not a problem til some girls got cut from the squad. I doubt they turned her in on moral grounds.

 

[SarahLynn]

Most of the time you'd be right, but it seems to me that in a matter like this, the person is also a role model. As such, perhaps she should have excersized better judgemment and taken that into consideration before posing.

Agreed. The ulterior motives of those who ratted her out are irrelevant.
We have fewer and fewer role models left although the behavior of a teacher still impacts their students.
Far more than merely being role models, I was surprised to find that teachers used to actually have rights as and act in the capacity of substitute parents.

By far the most common usage of in loco parentis relates to teachers and students. For hundreds of years, the English common-law concept shaped the rights and responsibilities of public school teachers: until the late nineteenth century, their legal authority over students was as broad as that of parents. Changes in U.S. education, concurrent with a broader reading by courts of the rights of students, began bringing the concept into disrepute by the 1960s.

Taking root in colonial American schools, in loco parentis was an idea derived from English common law. The colonists borrowed it from the English ideal of schools having not only educational but also moral responsibility for students. With this duty went the equivalent of parental authority. The idea especially suited the puritanical values of the colonists, and after the American Revolution, it persisted in elementary and high schools, colleges, and universities. The judiciary respected it: like their English counterparts, U.S. courts in the nineteenth century were unwilling to interfere when students brought grievances, particularly in the area of rules, discipline, and expulsion.

http://www.answers.com/topic/in-loco-parentis

 

[Josie]

When did she pose??? Was it before or after she became cheerleading coach? If it was after, then yeah, she shouldn't be coach. If it was before, then I have to be suspicious of the motives of the little "me" girl and her parents. Having had a daughter that cheered in both high school and college, the rule IS no school, no cheer and usually by the third strike you are out.

 

[blackguard]

So what about

all these teens (underage as they are) who send nude / semi nude pics of themselves via cellphones? How accountable are they? If the woman who in her off time poses nude so what? She is a consenting adult of age. Some will argue that because she works with kids she shouldn't? It's not like she was soliciting the teens to pose for Playboy. If I was the teacher I'd think about suing those parents for the loss of her job. Just because their precious little girls didn't make the squad? Too friggin bad...whaaaaa.

The employer should have no say in this. My .02 worth.

 

[fruit loop]

Role models?

Puh-leeze.

Teaching is a job.

What a teacher does off the job to earn money - and Playboy pays big bucks - should be their business. It's legal to pose for Playboy and legal to buy it.

Just how did these parents know she was in Playboy?? Sounds like some of them read it.

 

[mbo]

Role models?

Puh-leeze.

Teaching is a job.

What a teacher does off the job to earn money - and Playboy pays big bucks - should be their business. It's legal to pose for Playboy and legal to buy it.

Just how did these parents know she was in Playboy?? Sounds like some of them read it.

If her agreement with the school district covered this sort of thing (betcha it did) then the whole argument here is inane and irrelevant.

She broke the rules and for that alone should be canned. Unless, of course, you deem abiding by a hiring agreement to be somehow not related to the whole "role model" thing.

 

[narnia4]

Right, teaching is a job. We hire them. We don't want a Playboy bunny leading our girls (they have enough problems) We fire her. All right. So whats the problem, FL? Teaching isn't a right, her employers should be able to fire her at will.

 

[Josie]

ummmmm.....where does it say that she was a teacher? Coaches are not always teachers. Participation rules are usually instituted by the SCHOOL. You have to attend at least half a day to be allowed to pariticpate in activities. Any absences have to be excused. I wonder where the parents were not to be able to write an excuse note for the absences. Sounds to me like the little princess was skipping school.

 

[Fred]

I think if we were intended to ever be nude we would have been born that way.

Knowing that their coach has been seen naked has probably harmed these delicate snowflakes more than anything else in their short lives. Truly, is there anything worse in the world than nudity?

 

[Aardaerimus]

I think if we were intended to ever be nude we would have been born that way.

Knowing that their coach has been seen naked has probably harmed these delicate snowflakes more than anything else in their short lives. Truly, is there anything worse in the world than nudity?

Bwaahahah!! I love you, Fred. (But not in THAT way)

You always seem to echo my thoughts.


Now back to the article at hand:

Dang! She gots hawtness!

 

[Walker10]

Be it a teacher or a coach or whatever, fact of the mnatter is, a person in this type of position is viewed as an 'authority' figure by children and ideally at least, ought to be aware of that and conduct themselves in that manner. Children are impressionable and ought to be impressed with good values that will stay with them the rest of their lives.

 

[Aardaerimus]

Be it a teacher or a coach or whatever, fact of the mnatter is, a person in this type of position is viewed as an 'authority' figure by children and ideally at least, ought to be aware of that and conduct themselves in that manner. Children are impressionable and ought to be impressed with good values that will stay with them the rest of their lives.

Are a lot of children purchasing Playboy these days? Why would they even need to know, except that someone took it upon themselves to inferfere with her private life and make it a public issue.

It's not her fault, it the media's fault.

 

[Cheval]

 

[Walker10]

Why would they even need to know, except that someone took it upon themselves to inferfere with her private life and make it a public issue.

It's not her fault, it the media's fault.

Well, they don't NEED to know, but somehow it got out and now it's a public issue as you say. If a person wishes to hold a position like this, it seems to me that they ought to exercise a little forethought about what the consequences may be from posing nude and either refrain from it or get a different job where it wouldn't be an issue.

It just seems to me that when a person wishes to be a teacher, coach, or work with children in some other capacity, or a minister for instance, they ought to be a 'cut above average', because they do have an influence over people's lives.

 

[armadillogray]

Sounds like "sour grapes". It doesn't say anywhere that she taught a class so she was apparently hired for her "choreographic" skills. I really don't think she was a role model for young, nubile cheerleaders but then, I really believe cheerleaders are there to flaunt and thought there were more wholesome things for my own daughters to do.

 

[Josie]

...Children are impressionable and ought to be impressed with good values that will stay with them the rest of their lives.

You're right, Walker. So what lesson/values did the most important people in this young lady's life, her parents, teach her?

 

[Flippper]

I'm sick of what people do in their private lives, off the clock, becoming the employer's business.

It's proof of character, Fruity. How can they have a good foundation to teach impressionable minds if they are morally corrupt? Would it be ok for a child molester to teach sex ed to kindergartners? It's what he does in his private life, off the clock, so it's ok with you?

Find a legal repulsive and perverted past time you say? Alright, how about a 50 year old man who marries a 14 year old girl and teaches sex ed to any underage student? How about, say...Loretta Lynn's husband, he married her when she was 13, it was legal, you want him teaching little girls sex ed? Why not? What he does in his spare time doesn't reflect on his work ethic, according to you. It's obvious it does.

What you do in private is who you are, whether you hide it in public or not. It reflects your true moral character, and yes, if you are working for the government, what you do IS my business if it reflects on how you carry out your work ethic. How would you like it if by some freak accident, only republicans were hired where you work? What if you were surrounded by your arch enemies day in and day out, how would you feel about that? They would drive you nuts because, like everyone else, what they believe and practice at home spills over into every aspect of their lives, including work. Attitude, ethics, morals, honesty, communications and character all reflect what goes on at home.

 

[Harbinger]

Damn! Where was she when I was growing up? Dude...all the teachers at the schools I went to taught the parents of the kids I went to school with......

 

[Hokey]

Anybody want to hazard a guess at how many of those cheerleading daughters have worse to show on the internet than a playboy model would?

Those parents are sadly mistaken.

 

[Harbinger]

So, whiny ass parents of these stuck up girls who didn't make the cheer leading squad felt so bad about their child/children who didn't make it that they resorted to black mail....oh I would be suing the school. The school already accepted and dismissed the the background check. The back ground check is irrelevant at this point and black mailing is whats relevant.

Harbinger

 

[Harbinger]

Parents and some students, who did not want to be identified, exposed the coach to school officials after rumors started slowly getting out that she had posed nude.

Any body want to hazzard a guess how long the rumor of the coach being in playboy and on the site and who's parents had been a long time member of said site sence the children we all know are too young to be viewing such internet sites legally!!

 

[Walker10]

You're right, Walker. So what lesson/values did the most important people in this young lady's life, her parents, teach her?

No clue Josie, all I know about the incident is what's in the OP. I take it that they were incensed that the young lady was coaching their children. From what's written there, the parents found out about it and presented eveidence to the principal. What's the problem? I don't see much in that to complain about.

 

[mbo]

What is more likely is that Playboy et al determined that her value as a pictorial was much higher with THIS sort of publicity ("High School soccer coach... blah blah blah"), thereby providing the source of the information exposed, so to speak.

She gains a heck of a lot more with this revelation than without it.




As for the school, they are simply enforcing the hiring agreement, without bias.

To do otherwise would be really unwise on their part, if they ever wanted to enforce it for any reason in the future.





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[Josie]

No clue Josie, all I know about the incident is what's in the OP. I take it that they were incensed that the young lady was coaching their children. From what's written there, the parents found out about it and presented eveidence to the principal. What's the problem? I don't see much in that to complain about.

No, Walker. More likely they were incensed that their little princess didn't make the squad. If they were really upset, then they would have not allowed said little princess to even try out.

Like I asked before, were the shots taken before or after she was hired as coach?

 

[Oilpatch Hand]

Based on the evidence set forth in Post No. 7 above, I find this defendant Not Guilty! Case dismissed with prejudice.

 

[Josie]

...As for the school, they are simply enforcing the hiring agreement, without bias.

To do otherwise would be really unwise on their part, if they ever wanted to enforce it for any reason in the future..

I'm sorry. I haven't been able to view the hiring agreement. Where was that posted?

 

[Walker10]

No, Walker. More likely they were incensed that their little princess didn't make the squad. If they were really upset, then they would have not allowed said little princess to even try out.

Like I asked before, were the shots taken before or after she was hired as coach?

I don't know whether it was before or after. If before, then yeah I can see what you're saying, they were out to screw the coach over. If after then they're concerns were (more) legitimate.

At any rate, the notion of holding oneself to a higheer standard when a person is in a position like this still holds true.