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Hfcomms

EN66iq
Wouldn't we all, been a long trip.

Patience is a virtue, possess it if you can. Seldom found in women and never found in men.


We have thousands of years of history on our side and with gold posting almost daily new highs and silver about half the old highs it is just a matter of time. Paper games always fail eventually and our patience will be rewarded if past history means anything and I think it does especially since virtually the whole world is bankrupting now.
 

Great Northwet

Veteran Member
I talked to my "silver guy" over the weekend, briefly. He is concerned. He has never seen silver react in this way, looking at what is happening to gold. He is afraid it may have lost it's "luster".

I think it is more likely blatant manipulation, but that's just me.

Because it is a metal that CANNOT be replaced BY ANY other product in industry, it has what is known as "Inelastic Demand" No matter the price, the demand stays roughly the same. It has increased greatly in the past few years due to:
1) Car battery demand
2) Solar panel demand
3) Medical equipment demand
4) Purification equipment demand
5) 2 largest suppliers, Mexico and Peru production off 30% in the last 5 years.
6) Above ground supplies are significantly lower than 10 or 20 years ago.

In my book, it goes to the moon. Soon.
Just a note here; both silver and gold leaf are used for shielding satellites from the extreme temperatures in space and with starlink there have been a lot of launches lately and that will continue for some time.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
Even the paper metal prices are responding well again this morning. I agree fully that the metals are not as much investments as they are hard money. For me they do better than a 401K or rolling the dice in the crypto sphere. While I don’t see them as investments, fortunes have been made by buying out of favor assets at bargain basement prices and then holding on as these markets do tend to be cyclical.

With silver at just over half it‘s all time highs as opposed to gold making daily new highs I really can’t think of a better place to be and that is why I bought more yesterday. If silver was something nobody used that would be one thing but silver is in a long term deficit as far as the supply/demand equation. Sooner or later the paper market will break. Just remember you don’t (or shouldn’t) buy them because you think the price is going up or to become wealthy. The metals are wealth and that is why central banks vault more and more physical gold and not pork bellies or wheat.

People in Venezuela and other depressed economies have options while their countrymen are in abject poverty depending on government handouts which are fewer and farther between. I know most of us on the thread know this and have fully boughten in. Just be encouraged that you are doing the right thing and after you have done everything else to prep we have thousands of years of history to reassure you that you are doing what you are supposed to do.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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A strategy that people like that use is to store their assets where they feel they are safe from confiscation and/or outside their country of origin in perhaps a few different places and maybe have a few different homes around the world. Not a whole lot different than people that hold offshore bank accounts for the same reason. And as I understand it the Swiss have laws that make if very palatable and ‘safe’ for foreigners to do so.
They use to. Not so much these days as they eeport holdings to tge account owner’s country for tax purposes. The.cook Islands are aboutthe only ones that don’t recognize US laws.
 

West

Senior
I muse that when the bankers/government starts turning people's accounts to only CBCDs and starts the fiat cash exchange to only CBCDs, then PMs especially silver will explode.

But maybe that's what it will take?

IDK
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
And even lowly silver really isn’t doing awful even if we think so. Back in 1964 when junk silver was last issued gas was .30 cents a gallon or three silver dimes. Right now with the paper spot silver price the melt value for a silver dime is $1.86 so if you are not paying $5.58 for a gallon of gas (3 dimes worth) your silver is better off than it was 60 years ago.

You certainly aren’t getting rich or making money with silver currently but you are not losing purchasing power either like paper currency under the bed. Even with overt manipulation its holding it’s own. Investors have been spoiled today expecting a 2x or 3x return in a short period of time. That may be the new normal but it isn’t a historical norm and has only become commonplace by the irresponsible printing of currency,

Slow and steady wins the race. Tortoise vs hare and all that.
 

AuEagle

Veteran Member
I would be happy enough if silver stayed low. I plan on selling none and might buy more if the mood strikes me.
Why would I ever buy Fiat?
Not me, I hope Ag goes high so the GSR gets to a reasonable level & then convert Ag to Au.
 

von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Even the paper metal prices are responding well again this morning. I agree fully that the metals are not as much investments as they are hard money. For me they do better than a 401K or rolling the dice in the crypto sphere. While I don’t see them as investments, fortunes have been made by buying out of favor assets at bargain basement prices and then holding on as these markets do tend to be cyclical.

With silver at just over half it‘s all time highs as opposed to gold making daily new highs I really can’t think of a better place to be and that is why I bought more yesterday. If silver was something nobody used that would be one thing but silver is in a long term deficit as far as the supply/demand equation. Sooner or later the paper market will break. Just remember you don’t (or shouldn’t) buy them because you think the price is going up or to become wealthy. The metals are wealth and that is why central banks vault more and more physical gold and not pork bellies or wheat.

People in Venezuela and other depressed economies have options while their countrymen are in abject poverty depending on government handouts which are fewer and farther between. I know most of us on the thread know this and have fully boughten in. Just be encouraged that you are doing the right thing and after you have done everything else to prep we have thousands of years of history to reassure you that you are doing what you are supposed to do.

Historically, during times of extreme stress and war, the rich often buried their personal horde of gold and silver.

Some of them never reclaimed their treasure and metal detectors continue to discover them.

It is amazing how much wealth they once had, never to be useful again.
 

DFENZ

Contributing Member
Well, the beat down was tepid, at best.
Final #'s today, AU, +$18.10 to $2,251.10
AG, +$.11, to $25.05

Would have liked to see more out of AG.

Well, silver is playing the catch-up game this morning.

Not me, I hope Ag goes high so the GSR gets to a reasonable level & then convert Ag to Au.

Usually, gold starts the move and then silver joins the party; and silver seems to be just waking up now. Not a bad move and it's showing up in the GSR, dropping a couple of ounces in the last 24 hours.
 

DFENZ

Contributing Member
FWIW... Anyone can draw lines on technical charts, and I don't necessarily know what I'm doing, but I see a huge bull flag on the 10-year silver chart. Looks like we just broke out, with an anticipated minimum price target of $37 near to mid-term.
 

AuEagle

Veteran Member
Usually, gold starts the move and then silver joins the party; and silver seems to be just waking up now. Not a bad move and it's showing up in the GSR, dropping a couple of ounces in the last 24 hours.
Au $2270.00, Ag approaching $26.00, GSR 87.4/1 as of this post.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
Historically, during times of extreme stress and war, the rich often buried their personal horde of gold and silver.

Some of them never reclaimed their treasure and metal detectors continue to discover them.

It is amazing how much wealth they once had, never to be useful again.

I bought a good metal detector years ago but I never had the patience for it. After digging up a bunch of old door knobs and hinges it wasn't a lot of fun. Most of the good spots have been picked over.
 

von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I heard a commercial last night on the radio. A jewelry store was advertising diamond rings for junk silver.
They said a $5000.00 diamond for $500 in junk silver.

Considering the marriage rate is currently only 6.5 men out of a thousand, wedding rings are approaching "junk" status.

Diamonds are not as rare as their marketing efforts try to indicate.
 

von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I bought a good metal detector years ago but I never had the patience for it. After digging up a bunch of old door knobs and hinges it wasn't a lot of fun. Most of the good spots have been picked over.

Nearly all major finds are in Europa. Many date from the end of empires, especially the Roman Empire.
 

West

Senior
In the late 80s and early 90s we not only mined/prospected our own BLM claims, but we also found time to metal detect old ghost towns in the gold fields of Northern California and Southern Oregon. Also spent a lot of time in both research and detecting in areas Black Bart robbed many stagecoaches.


We spent way more monies and energies in treasure hunting and mining than if we had just buckled down and just had bought PMs outright from a exchange with cash we made in the construction trades.

Learn a lot with bad decisions. I may need to make some more bad decisions before I learn better though.

:D
 

Wyominglarry

Veteran Member
Buy it and hold it in your hands. A friend of mine bought gold and silver from a company that offered to store it in their vault and not charge him. They told him he can get it shipped whenever he wants. During the last banking panic he called the company and asked for his PMs. Guess what? They told him it will be about a month, since they are out of PMs due to the huge number of orders. He was super pissed and threaten to sue them if they did not get his PMs shipped by the end of the day. They told him read the fine print in his agreement with them. He got his PMs about 3 weeks later and learned a valuable lesson. If you do not hold them in your hands you really do not own them.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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I heard a commercial last night on the radio. A jewelry store was advertising diamond rings for junk silver.
They said a $5000.00 diamond for $500 in junk silver.
Wow! That's quite a premium on the math challenged. "Junk" silver dimes are worth a skosh under $1.90 each right now...

Summerthyme
 
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