Yes, that's why analog systems like HFGCS, NETCOM, MEECN, ect.. are maintained globally and housed at multiple hardened sites with redundant support infrastructure.
You mean they operate on analog vacuum tubes? It's been over 40 years since I worked on any of those beasts. Anything since (that WAS analog) was analog equipment like measuring water flow in a canal or temperature increase and decrease in hot houses. They all then had to convert the analog information into digital form like Scada to be handled, process, stored to be used or analyzed. So when you say analog are you talking about the end point radio waves? I don't know, I'm just asking. My supposition is you are talking about end point communications, not the equipment that those signals then feed into, which I am guessing would be digital. There are a lot of systems that convert digital to analog, and analog to digital; I've worked with a fair bit of it in telecommunications. But in todays world it all falls into the digital world to be processed and handled.
I'm not speaking to commercial or public systems or operations.
My point is all about public systems. When and if public systems go down and stay down, so will the military systems, it is all then up to a matter of time, and how much of it. Except those living in well stocked DUMBS. Good luck to that.
Right, because DoD built a singular, hardened command and control node, but nothing for it to command or control...
The military's primary function is to operate within non-permissive, austere environments which includes post-NUDET enviorments. Hence why every battalion has a special troops section with an CBRN platoon.
Great knowledge and insight can be gain into this subject matter by reading a copy of the first four levels of STP 21-24-SMCT, then I recommend AFDP 32-3 be read and then some of the thousands of white papers written on the myriad of post-nuclear operations.
I'm not speaking to commercial or public systems and operations.
A woeful misunderstanding of how garrisons operate and function.
Who brings the food to the bases? Who brings the fuel? Who handles the close by cell phone towers that the soldiers, mil use? Again, I understand the US Mil is set up to fight a very limited nuclear war or wars against very small woefully non Peer to Peer adversaries. But if all else collapses around them, the US military will run out of steam fairly quickly.
The institutions that wage war on our behalfcare more than capable in running their own facilities without John Q. Public having tap water and flushing toilets, let alone in a post-NUDET environment.
That sounds very comforting but I don't believe it. They have stocks of water, parts for everything, mre's stored, on base, for a year for the troops let alone the people around them? They all have their own power generating facilities? Fuel for a year stored on base? Not buying it. I've worked in companies with giant chinese gennies backed up with large battery banks that kick in within a maybe 3 seconds of a local power company drop out. Yeah it's great. Certainly wouldn't last long if nobody brought the fuel truck for let's say two weeks? One week? Running full time?
I'm sure he does...
Yes, I've lived through extended periods without power and amenities.
I and brother spent an entire winter in a small one room cabin on a small island off Vancouver Island with a kerosene lantern and an old fashioned wood cookstove with a fire box about 10x12x14 or so. All winter. So we are talking about 6 months or so in total. No electricity. No tv. No radio. No running water. I can't remember where we crapped but there was no bathroom. Almost no food except oysters from the beach down the rocky cliffs, occasionally a few potatoes or carrots. Been there and done that. I hear you brother. We were hearty men back then
. Finlander. I'm sure you've heard of us
. (full disclosure, Dutch landlord and family did invite us in a few times for supper and liquers!! lol).
Which is why a water barrier must be maintained in bowl.
I've looked into methane traps to run small cookstoves or old fashioned gas lights. Enough gas build up pushes through the water traps. You know, it bubbles, that kind of thing.
Not from the tap.
A number of folks here have professional backgrounds and real world experience in Continuity of Operations, Disaster Response, Emergency Communitcations, CBRN Response, etc...
I know and I do appreciate the knowledge base here. This thread is about a podcast in this guys views on a few things to think about if there is a catastrophic failure of our Grid where it won't be coming back and what to think about, in a general way, for the next year or so when everyone else is busy dying off. I have a fair bit of real world experience in electronics and telecommunications in that public sector you think the military doesn't need and can function just fine without it. Sounds delusional to me.
I know what you are saying. I've looked into much of this for decades. Like Doc I've studied military history, and history of civilizations for roughly 68 years or so (I started early- it all started with Tacitus......and Tarzan), all the way back to the ongoing debates of caveman days. I decided long ago in this life that I didn't want to go into the mil and peel potatoes, so odd fortunate brought me into high tech before there was high tech, at least in the way it is perceived today.
IF there is a catastrophic failure of our society, most of the military's continuity of operations won't mean crap to most of it and it won't take that long. It will start to fall apart in the first 30 days as soon as the majority realize that there won't be any coming back. Many, maybe most, will stick around for as long as it lasts, many won't. I suggest you read first hand accounts of the retreat of the French coalition Army under Napoleon during the retreat from Moscow. It started to fall apart with every man for themselves (in general) in the first 3 weeks leaving Moscow. In less than two months it was a mob. Largest military grouping in history up to that time, and it did not take long for all semblance of military discipline to fall apart.
Human nature doesn't change. Tech might, but human nature is the very same today as it was when Achilles was arguing with Agamemnon.
Anyway, thanks.
I appreciate your opinions on this subject.
) and I've read some of his stuff, mostly over a decade ago. However, and this is only my opinion, I am not debating anyone or their views on the matter, but you will only really know during and after the sh_t hits the fan. 
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