Macgyver
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1min worth the watch.
Police trying to stop an ATV in a park.
MORON DASHCAM VIDEO: ATV rider crashes into New Haven police cruiser
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1min worth the watch.
Police trying to stop an ATV in a park.
Jeff Allen
Producer
I'm conflicted....but bottom line, the ATV rider FAFO.
J
J
Reasonable Rascal
Veteran Member
Poor choices on both sides IMHO.
RR
RR
The four wheeler was moving really fast and he was hurting after that. Back in the later 1990s around here the Sheriff or State Troopers would confiscate 10 or more of these ATV's at a time because they would ride in groups on the paved roads and make problems for divers of cars on top of riding on state lands set aside for hunting and fishing and locally that also included camping and everyone knows no AtV's on these lands.
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The cruiser probably thought the ATV rider was going to plow into all of the pedestrians and bicyclists he was hurtling towards. I've actually witnessed a similar incident and while the ATV rider tried to go around them, he still clipped a man on a bicycle causing a pile up as well as two pedestrians who couldn't get out of the way fast enough.
Southside
Has No Life - Lives on TB
At best I can see this. At worst, you have a maimed child for, well, nothing. Its a kid. The kid had no chance to slow down, torched.
Southside
Has No Life - Lives on TB
OK, this is reasonable.
Milkweed Host
Veteran Member
The squad car drove for about eight seconds, at a slower speed when meeting
the very fast moving ATV rider. I do think that the bicyclists would have been in extremely
danger if the cruiser didn't take the ATV rider out.
The ATV rider can live or die with his choice.
the very fast moving ATV rider. I do think that the bicyclists would have been in extremely
danger if the cruiser didn't take the ATV rider out.
The ATV rider can live or die with his choice.
The atv rider was breaking the law by being on the road.
At least in jurisdictions that I'm familiar with.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L397TWLwrUU
At least in jurisdictions that I'm familiar with.
Jeff Allen
Producer
I've changed my mind and am no longer conflicted at all.
This man was wearing a mask to conceal his identity. Its obviously not cold. To me...adding the attempt to conceal his identity along with the illegal activities of recklessly speeding and driving an ATV in a park where it is prohibited, show a planned course of evil behavior. Bummer for him he wasn't wearing a helmet, but I'm not sad. He cared nothing for the safety of other legal users of the park. He fought the law and the law won. I fully support the officers decision.
J
This man was wearing a mask to conceal his identity. Its obviously not cold. To me...adding the attempt to conceal his identity along with the illegal activities of recklessly speeding and driving an ATV in a park where it is prohibited, show a planned course of evil behavior. Bummer for him he wasn't wearing a helmet, but I'm not sad. He cared nothing for the safety of other legal users of the park. He fought the law and the law won. I fully support the officers decision.
J
admiralhalsey
Kept
For me, a licensed ATV and motorcycle rider, I am grateful for the quite decision made by the police officer. He put his own life on the line to try and save those he just passed. I would have made the same choice.
I remember a story told to me by my drilling manager, I was a superintendant for the workover and completions department of his natural gas production area in the Wyoming. We had our morning debrief on the coming projects, and he added a personal story. That very morning, a deer was hit on the highway. It had multiple broke legs. The poor thing was trying to stand and escape - a terrifying sight. He was not the first to arrive. The folks there already stood there in shock not knowing what to do. Maybe call animal rescue or the police? My manager pulled over, assessed the situation, pulled out his hunting knife, contained the deer in his arms, and slit the jugular of the deer. The deer bled out and died in his arms; now at peace.
There are times in our live’s when we must make decisions very quickly, difficult decisions. My manager, like this police officer, made a solid decision. A decision that the others gathered before he got there, did not have the courage, or strength to make? Only each one knows.
As our society continues to collapse, I can see more and more difficult decisions being needed. Will we as a society have the courage and the clarity to recognize a difficult, yet justified decision.
That poor deer calmed in the arms of my manager. That day I saw something in myself that I did not like, and determined to changed that day - work out my salvation (being a man) with fear and trembling. I chose to respond to difficult situations knowing in advance that I needed to live each moment ready to make difficult decisions, decisions tougher than the ones, as a superintendant, I was already making each day as I directed the workover and completion of high pressure natural gas wells.
We just never know when we may be called upon to do something extraordinary. A quick decision that if not made, allows something most unfortunate to unfold.
May the officer in question receive support for a good decision in a very difficult situation.
I pray that the ATV rider heals, and learns appreciating that the officer was trying to protect everyone, including him, quickly.
Alberta Jim
I remember a story told to me by my drilling manager, I was a superintendant for the workover and completions department of his natural gas production area in the Wyoming. We had our morning debrief on the coming projects, and he added a personal story. That very morning, a deer was hit on the highway. It had multiple broke legs. The poor thing was trying to stand and escape - a terrifying sight. He was not the first to arrive. The folks there already stood there in shock not knowing what to do. Maybe call animal rescue or the police? My manager pulled over, assessed the situation, pulled out his hunting knife, contained the deer in his arms, and slit the jugular of the deer. The deer bled out and died in his arms; now at peace.
There are times in our live’s when we must make decisions very quickly, difficult decisions. My manager, like this police officer, made a solid decision. A decision that the others gathered before he got there, did not have the courage, or strength to make? Only each one knows.
As our society continues to collapse, I can see more and more difficult decisions being needed. Will we as a society have the courage and the clarity to recognize a difficult, yet justified decision.
That poor deer calmed in the arms of my manager. That day I saw something in myself that I did not like, and determined to changed that day - work out my salvation (being a man) with fear and trembling. I chose to respond to difficult situations knowing in advance that I needed to live each moment ready to make difficult decisions, decisions tougher than the ones, as a superintendant, I was already making each day as I directed the workover and completion of high pressure natural gas wells.
We just never know when we may be called upon to do something extraordinary. A quick decision that if not made, allows something most unfortunate to unfold.
May the officer in question receive support for a good decision in a very difficult situation.
I pray that the ATV rider heals, and learns appreciating that the officer was trying to protect everyone, including him, quickly.
Alberta Jim
custom2006
Senior Member
Kind of like cops who break the law ...
Hognutz
Has No Life - Lives on TB
DamnJBTs worried about a kid on a four wheeler, but lets the border wide open, and BLM burn down America….
Taco Salad
Contributing Member
Regulations vary a lot even by county. Here you're supposed to stay on the shoulder but in places there's no shoulder people ride on the pavement until there is a shoulder again. We took ours to the store yesterday and it was a mix of dirt road, orv trail, and paved road.
We have similar masks and they sell them in every gas station and party store near an orv trail. If you haven't been out there you'd be shocked at how much dust there is on a good day, if things get dry on a weekend the dust cloud over the trails never fully dissolves.
Bottom line is that blocking the road was a pretty iffy call. It looks pretty obvious that the quad was going too fast on that road and I think that lights and siren should have been enough but it's hard to tell from that video. How far was it to the last pedestrians that we saw? I'm not sure so I can't definetively say that the cop was in the wrong.
155 arty
Veteran Member
Iatv rider will probably sue and win
CTFIREBATTCHIEF
Veteran Member
That looks like East Rock Park in New haven, A narrow, winding two lane road that in fact is partially closed to automobile traffic after a certain point. There have been a lot of problems with quad riders and dirt bike riders riding in packs and terrorizing pedestrians and car drivers alike. They will swarm you on the two interstates that come through the area daring you to hit them. Several years ago my wife and I were on Interstate 95 going through new haven when we were swarmed by a pack of them. One asshole rode up right next to me, doing a wheelie while riding alongside the passenger window, looking at my wife. He looked over at me and I looked over at him. The look he got from me was "try anything to get in this car and you are going to be ****ing dead right there". It is "mad max" out there in my area right now between street takeovers and them pulling stunts like this against people. Every day you go on the road you have to have alternate routes in your head and a mindset in your head that today may be the day you need to make "that" decision. I hate that.
Sorry I've no sympathy for the asshat.
Sorry I've no sympathy for the asshat.
The ATV younger crowd is a bit out of control here in S NJ. No respect for rules of the road, for others on the road, no lights at night, and I've come close to more than one accident with them.
coalcracker
Veteran Member
“Well, we’re not gonna let you just ride on outta here…”
“Who’s we, sucka?”
“Dodge, Charger, and me…”
They are legal on even the paved county roads up here - mainly because a ban was impossible to enforce anymore, and people use them locally for everything from commuting to the store/local dive diners and bars, to moving around checking stock/fences, etc. Around lake communities, trailheads, state and national forests, etc. there can be as many wheelers and side-by-sides on the road as cars and trucks.
But you aren't supposed to be riding like an asshole. The cop gave the speeder no way out, and that's unfortunate, but that guy would have plowed into the bike riders sure as anything.
Oh well.
But you aren't supposed to be riding like an asshole. The cop gave the speeder no way out, and that's unfortunate, but that guy would have plowed into the bike riders sure as anything.
Oh well.
Even if it is legal to ride on a road there, some catch-all charges can be applied.
"Operating a motor vehicle in an unsafe manner", that can be whatever a LEO calls.
"Operating a motor vehicle in an unsafe manner", that can be whatever a LEO calls.
ChetekTech
Veteran Member
I live fairly rural. ATV/ UTV can ride on some roads around here and are marked as such, generally all but highways and must stay on pavement. They have their own speed limit which can be same or slower than cars.
I noticed the speed limit sign indicated it to be 25mph in the video. That asshat was doing far above that. Got what he deserved.
The only thing I wished is if I could grab the video frame as his head hit the windshield. It would have made a great background for a little while.
I noticed the speed limit sign indicated it to be 25mph in the video. That asshat was doing far above that. Got what he deserved.
The only thing I wished is if I could grab the video frame as his head hit the windshield. It would have made a great background for a little while.
adgal
Veteran Member
If they wanted to enforce the ban they could they just do not want to. It was legal here to ride them on the roads in West Virginia but they had to have head and tail lights and it was for limited use only like farmers. It got abused rather quickly and we had people banned from driving (drunks) and some of them were found in the woods having ran off the road drunk and found dead days after the fact. People would spend $8 to $10 thousand on one of these four wheelers and let their 8 year old kid have unfettered access to it and a few of them got killed, so the state banned them for any and all highway use.
People I knew across the street from me the woman hit one of these ATVs being operated by a ten year old and his brother on the back, she did not see them they just appeared out of nowhere and the minivan slammed into the ATV sending the kids down the road some 50 yards the ATV went even more down the road before stopping.
This all happened 20 years ago and the woman and her husband has passed away a few years ago in a house fire.
Taco Salad
Contributing Member
Path wasn't open to ATVs and the cop had his lights on. Completely the fault of the ATV driver.
Johnny Twoguns
Senior Member
Ractivist
Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
I'm not sure my first post was thought thru. He was a serious danger to those on bikes, yet he was quite a bit behind any bikes, though he would have got there soon enough. Would he have slowed down? Be interesting to see how it plays out and his previous behavior. Lots of unknowns.
adgal
Veteran Member
It was a path - not open to vehicular traffic except emergency vehicles. The police had received calls that ATV drivers were racing - so that's why he was there. He had his lights on. Check out the link above for reference.
emiliozapata
Senior Member
I disagree if that area was off limts to ORVs, I am so sick of these aholes ruining every trail in any given area
adgal
Veteran Member
In the second video, it shows parents walking with strollers and children. If he couldn't slow down in time to not hit a police car with lights flashing - would he have been able to avoid a child?
Johnny Twoguns
Senior Member
Ok, I stand corrected. The road was closed. They can call it a path but it is still a road, divider line, wide enough for two vehicles. I still think the cop was a jerk for not putting on lights and siren.
Watch the news report in post #27/
You will probably stand corrected some more.