HEALTH Chinese scientists create mutant Ebola virus to skirt around biosafety rules

jward

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Chinese scientists create mutant Ebola virus to skirt around biosafety rules - and it causes...​


Angely Mercado, Stacy Liberatore​


Chinese scientists have engineered a virus with parts of Ebola in a lab that killed a group of hamsters.
A team of researchers at Hebei Medical University used a contagious disease of livestock and added a protein found in Ebola, which allows the virus to infect cells and spread throughout the human body.

The group of hamsters that received the lethal injection 'developed severe systemic diseases similar to those observed in human Ebola patients,' including multi-organ failure,' the study shared.
One particularly horrific symptom saw the infected hamsters develop secretions in their eyes, which impaired their vision and scabbed over the surface of the eyeballs

While the experiment may spark fears of another lab leak, the researchers say their goal was to find the right animal models that can safely mimic Ebola symptoms in a lab setting


Chinese scientists have engineered virus to contain parts of Ebola (pictured) in a lab that killed a group of hamsters in just three days


A team of researchers at Hebei Medical University used a contagious disease of livestock and added a protein found in Ebola that allows it to infect cells and spread throughout the human body (stock)
The study suggested that infected hamsters could be a decent model for studying the spread and treatment of Ebola in the future.
Ebola needs to be handled in Biosafety Level 4 (BSL-4) facilities which are special high security laboratories, while many are only BLS-2.

To work around this in a lower security setting, scientists used a different virus called vesicular stomatitis virus (VSV), which they engineered to carry part of the Ebola virus that's called glycoprotein (GP) that plays a crucial role in helping the virus enter and infect cells of its host.

The infected hamsters developed secretions in their eyes, which impaired their vision and covered the surface of the eyeballs
The team studied five female and five male hamsters that were all three weeks old.
All female Syrian hamsters showed decreased rectal temperature and up to 18 percent weight loss - they all died between two and three days.
The five male hamsters lost 15 percent weight and succumbed to the disease at no later than three and a half days.
However, two male hamsters survived and gained 20 percent more weight than pre-infection.
The team harvested organs from the dead animals, finding the virus accumulated in the heart, liver, spleen, lung, kidney, stomach, intestines and brain tissues.
The highest levels were found in the liver and lowest in the brain.
'It is a sign that 3-week-old Syrian hamsters infected with VSV-EBOV/GP have the possibility of playing a role in the study of optic nerve disorders caused by EVD,' the team shared in the study, which was published in the Chinese journal Virologica Sinica.

The group of female hamsters also had multi-organ failure
The team concluded that the infected hamsters showed a rapid onset of symptoms, shock liver, systemic infection, and developed severe systemic diseases similar to those observed in human EBOV patients.
They also noted that the experiments provided a rapid preclinical evaluation of medical countermeasures against Ebola under BLS-2 conditions, concluding the study was a success.

The last major outbreak of the virus occurred from 2014 to 2016 in several West African countries was deadly, a report from the World Health Organization (WHO) said.
During those two years more than 28,600 people were reportedly infected, and about 11,300 died.
The virus spread from West Africa to Europe and even over to the United States.
'The surrogate virus and matched hamster EVD [Ebola virus disease] model will improve the security and economy of the research in the EBOV field,' the researchers wrote in the study.

Testing infectious viruses is necessary for breakthroughs in treatment and prevention.
But lab leaks happen, and these incidents could lead to the spread of to those outside of the lab.
Experts have confirmed that respiratory viruses – which are spared via coughing and sneezing – are more likely to spread widely through a population.

Data released this March revealed that lab leak incidents occur every year and included the release of controlled pathogens like tuberculosis and anthrax.

There are anywhere from 70 to 100 releases were recorded every year.
However Dr Richard Ebright, a chemical biologist at Rutgers University in New Jersey told DailyMail.com that its unlikely that a lab leak involving VSV would lead to widespread infection in the public.
'[It] will be imperative to verify that the novel chimeric virus does not infect and replicate in human cells, and does not pose risk of infectivity, transmissibility, and pathogenicity in humans, before proceeding with studies at biosafety level 2,' he said.
 

Old Greek

Veteran Member

Chinese scientists create mutant Ebola virus to skirt around biosafety rules - and it causes...​


Angely Mercado, Stacy Liberatore​


Chinese scientists have engineered a virus with parts of Ebola in a lab that killed a group of hamsters.
A team of researchers at Hebei Medical University used a contagious disease of livestock and added a protein found in Ebola, which allows the virus to infect cells and spread throughout the human body.

The group of hamsters that received the lethal injection 'developed severe systemic diseases similar to those observed in human Ebola patients,' including multi-organ failure,' the study shared.
One particularly horrific symptom saw the infected hamsters develop secretions in their eyes, which impaired their vision and scabbed over the surface of the eyeballs

While the experiment may spark fears of another lab leak, the researchers say their goal was to find the right animal models that can safely mimic Ebola symptoms in a lab setting


Chinese scientists have engineered virus to contain parts of Ebola (pictured) in a lab that killed a group of hamsters in just three days


A team of researchers at Hebei Medical University used a contagious disease of livestock and added a protein found in Ebola that allows it to infect cells and spread throughout the human body (stock)
The study suggested that infected hamsters could be a decent model for studying the spread and treatment of Ebola in the future.
Ebola needs to be handled in Biosafety Level 4 (BSL-4) facilities which are special high security laboratories, while many are only BLS-2.

To work around this in a lower security setting, scientists used a different virus called vesicular stomatitis virus (VSV), which they engineered to carry part of the Ebola virus that's called glycoprotein (GP) that plays a crucial role in helping the virus enter and infect cells of its host.

The infected hamsters developed secretions in their eyes, which impaired their vision and covered the surface of the eyeballs
The team studied five female and five male hamsters that were all three weeks old.
All female Syrian hamsters showed decreased rectal temperature and up to 18 percent weight loss - they all died between two and three days.
The five male hamsters lost 15 percent weight and succumbed to the disease at no later than three and a half days.
However, two male hamsters survived and gained 20 percent more weight than pre-infection.
The team harvested organs from the dead animals, finding the virus accumulated in the heart, liver, spleen, lung, kidney, stomach, intestines and brain tissues.
The highest levels were found in the liver and lowest in the brain.
'It is a sign that 3-week-old Syrian hamsters infected with VSV-EBOV/GP have the possibility of playing a role in the study of optic nerve disorders caused by EVD,' the team shared in the study, which was published in the Chinese journal Virologica Sinica.

The group of female hamsters also had multi-organ failure
The team concluded that the infected hamsters showed a rapid onset of symptoms, shock liver, systemic infection, and developed severe systemic diseases similar to those observed in human EBOV patients.
They also noted that the experiments provided a rapid preclinical evaluation of medical countermeasures against Ebola under BLS-2 conditions, concluding the study was a success.

The last major outbreak of the virus occurred from 2014 to 2016 in several West African countries was deadly, a report from the World Health Organization (WHO) said.
During those two years more than 28,600 people were reportedly infected, and about 11,300 died.
The virus spread from West Africa to Europe and even over to the United States.
'The surrogate virus and matched hamster EVD [Ebola virus disease] model will improve the security and economy of the research in the EBOV field,' the researchers wrote in the study.

Testing infectious viruses is necessary for breakthroughs in treatment and prevention.
But lab leaks happen, and these incidents could lead to the spread of to those outside of the lab.
Experts have confirmed that respiratory viruses – which are spared via coughing and sneezing – are more likely to spread widely through a population.

Data released this March revealed that lab leak incidents occur every year and included the release of controlled pathogens like tuberculosis and anthrax.

There are anywhere from 70 to 100 releases were recorded every year.
However Dr Richard Ebright, a chemical biologist at Rutgers University in New Jersey told DailyMail.com that its unlikely that a lab leak involving VSV would lead to widespread infection in the public.
'[It] will be imperative to verify that the novel chimeric virus does not infect and replicate in human cells, and does not pose risk of infectivity, transmissibility, and pathogenicity in humans, before proceeding with studies at biosafety level 2,' he said.
Maybe they could donate samples to this administration for investigation purposes.
 

Pinecone

Has No Life - Lives on TB
They must think we're stupid if they think we believe the part about this going for benign research and how to better cope with Ebola, etc. Oh wait, the US .gov funds some of their "benign" research so they must be telling the truth!

Sigh, I know we're all gonna die, but that is not one of the ways I want to go.
 

jward

passin' thru
Ah, I see that they’ve realized that bird flu isn’t having as much of a fear reaction as they’d hoped, so they’re breaking out the big one: EEEEE BBBBB OOOO LLLL AAAA!!!!!!! :hof:
I dunno. I'm still nursin' a very dangerous case o' who knows what respiratory illness in my guest- I may not be "fearful" but I damn sure have a healthy respect for this danger, no matter what it's genesis.

..n tho i have the medicine cabinet and supplies and protocols for ebola too, I am not sure I'm up to providing home care for THAT- or that such a thing beyond palliative measures is even possible.
 

JMG91

Veteran Member
I dunno. I'm still nursin' a very dangerous case o' who knows what respiratory illness in my guest- I may not be "fearful" but I damn sure have a healthy respect for this danger, no matter what it's genesis.

..n tho i have the medicine cabinet and supplies and protocols for ebola too, I am not sure I'm up to providing home care for THAT- or that such a thing beyond palliative measures is even possible.
I don't want to be foolish, but I'm beginning to wonder if it's the treatment protocol that kills more people who have ebola than the actual virus. There was a story about a young woman whose entire family in Africa got ebola--9 people--and she cared for them all on her own, no help, no medicine, just keeping them hydrated and covering herself in trash bags for PPE. Every single one of her relatives recovered well and she never got it. It just makes me wonder, after everything we saw with covid--the treatment protocol was probably killing more people than the virus!

I understand that ebola is much more dangerous than covid, but still, it does make you wonder, especially since they're using us as guinea pigs for their "medicine."
 

Mark D

Now running for Emperor.
I don't want to be foolish, but I'm beginning to wonder if it's the treatment protocol that kills more people who have ebola than the actual virus. There was a story about a young woman whose entire family in Africa got ebola--9 people--and she cared for them all on her own, no help, no medicine, just keeping them hydrated and covering herself in trash bags for PPE. Every single one of her relatives recovered well and she never got it...
Ebola's fatality rate is pretty well understood... That family just happened to win the Genetic Lottery.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
Not that I wouldn't put it past the Chinese but the Daily Mail in the U.K. is as much of a tabloid at times as the National Enquirer is here. Unfortunately you can't believe hardly anything put out by the MSM no matter what country it comes out of. This particular story may be true but then again it may not be.
 

jward

passin' thru
Every single one of her relatives recovered well and she never got it. It just makes me wonder, after everything we saw with covid--the treatment protocol was probably killing more people than the virus!

I understand that ebola is much more dangerous than covid, but still, it does make you wonder, especially since they're using us as guinea pigs for their "medicine."
That's some astute thinking- certainly a question worth keeping in the back of one's mind but I suspect that ebola is deadly enough that even in first world settings (do we even have such things any longer?) that it doesn't need much help from the "treatment" to be fatal.
 
I don't want to be foolish, but I'm beginning to wonder if it's the treatment protocol that kills more people who have ebola than the actual virus. There was a story about a young woman whose entire family in Africa got ebola--9 people--and she cared for them all on her own, no help, no medicine, just keeping them hydrated and covering herself in trash bags for PPE. Every single one of her relatives recovered well and she never got it. It just makes me wonder, after everything we saw with covid--the treatment protocol was probably killing more people than the virus!

I understand that ebola is much more dangerous than covid, but still, it does make you wonder, especially since they're using us as guinea pigs for their "medicine."
Wasn’t RunDeathIsNear designed for Ebola?
 
I dunno. I'm still nursin' a very dangerous case o' who knows what respiratory illness in my guest- I may not be "fearful" but I damn sure have a healthy respect for this danger, no matter what it's genesis.

..n tho i have the medicine cabinet and supplies and protocols for ebola too, I am not sure I'm up to providing home care for THAT- or that such a thing beyond palliative measures is even possible.
What are your protocols?
 

wobble

Veteran Member
They must think we're stupid if they think we believe the part about this going for benign research and how to better cope with Ebola, etc. Oh wait, the US .gov funds some of their "benign" research so they must be telling the truth!

Sigh, I know we're all gonna die, but that is not one of the ways I want to go.
They and their cohorts think worse of us than just stupid.
 

wobble

Veteran Member
And they needed to create this why???
If not tabloid newz fear mong'rin, then :hmm: <-SIC
I don't want to be foolish, but I'm beginning to wonder if it's the treatment protocol that kills more people who have ebola than the actual virus. There was a story about a young woman whose entire family in Africa got ebola--9 people--and she cared for them all on her own, no help, no medicine, just keeping them hydrated and covering herself in trash bags for PPE. Every single one of her relatives recovered well and she never got it. It just makes me wonder, after everything we saw with covid--the treatment protocol was probably killing more people than the virus!

I understand that ebola is much more dangerous than covid, but still, it does make you wonder, especially since they're using us as guinea pigs for their "medicine."
:hmm: <-No SIC
 

JMG91

Veteran Member
Ebola's fatality rate is pretty well understood... That family just happened to win the Genetic Lottery.
But the thing that makes ebola so dangerous is that it depletes the body of fluids to a catastrophic level until the person's organs shut down and they die. That girl was intelligent enough to focus mostly on that, and her family survived. I don't consider that a coincidence; I think she was smart and triaged properly. The pharmaceuticals given to most people with ebola is probably killing just as quickly as the illness itself.
 

Wyominglarry

Veteran Member
Ebola or Marburg is my personal line in the sand for closing the gate.

Read The Hot Zone. It's horrific.
I read the book. I agree if those viruses or similar ones got loose in America. I would stay home. Good way to cancel the election. Vote and die or stay home and let the criminals steal another election. I would stay home and vote as many times as was possible.
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
They must think we're stupid if they think we believe the part about this going for benign research and how to better cope with Ebola, etc. Oh wait, the US .gov funds some of their "benign" research so they must be telling the truth!

Sigh, I know we're all gonna die, but that is not one of the ways I want to go.

Perhaps the worst is that we're hand-in-glove with the Communist Chinese on these little explorations in "Science".

:shk:

Reminds me of the Song by Frieda - "There's something going on"
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
What are your protocols?


Didn't ask me, but if I recall correctly Dr. Zelenko (may he RIP) posted a video where he suggested that being an RNA virus, his protocol may well work.

IIRC, the list he cited included Ebola, Zika, and one or two others...

If I come across the video again I'll post it here if there's interest.

eta: went and searched, no luck. Virtually all the results were hits against the man. :shk:

And, of course I'm not implying that it would in fact work, just that he had made that claim or supposition.
 

Walkin' Away

Senior Member
Yes, Remdesivir is/was a treatment used for Ebola. When my Dear Mom was ill and in ICU dying from sepsis…(also ”tested” positive for C-19) The docs wanted to give her Remdesivi. I/We said NO!

In my research, I found that the drug had been used to treat Ebola and since it had some significant side effects, it lost favor with the med establishment. Our nurse on the unit had no idea about what Remdesivir did, nor where it came from/to be used for. He got an education that day from me.

Then, like a miracle…TPTB decided to use it as an “off-label” treatment for C-19. I wondered why? I know it may be a woo theory…but since C-19 virus is considered an engineered thing with who knows what is in it…could it have some genetic material from the ebola virus?

One more thing, I remember reading that they were testing an Ebola vaccine on healthcare volunteers in Denver sometime last year. Anybody remember that? Also, I remember reading about some new construction project near Ft. Collin’s, CO where a new bat containment facility will be housed.

That right there my friends, makes me think of “The Stand”.

I don’t want to get off topic, but at this point…we all know they want us dead. Critical thinking and anticipating possibilities is essential to our navigating this road that we are on.

Take Care Everyone,
W.A.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Yes, Remdesivir is/was a treatment used for Ebola. When my Dear Mom was ill and in ICU dying from sepsis…(also ”tested” positive for C-19) The docs wanted to give her Remdesivi. I/We said NO!

In my research, I found that the drug had been used to treat Ebola and since it had some significant side effects, it lost favor with the med establishment. Our nurse on the unit had no idea about what Remdesivir did, nor where it came from/to be used for. He got an education that day from me.

Then, like a miracle…TPTB decided to use it as an “off-label” treatment for C-19. I wondered why? I know it may be a woo theory…but since C-19 virus is considered an engineered thing with who knows what is in it…could it have some genetic material from the ebola virus?

One more thing, I remember reading that they were testing an Ebola vaccine on healthcare volunteers in Denver sometime last year. Anybody remember that? Also, I remember reading about some new construction project near Ft. Collin’s, CO where a new bat containment facility will be housed.

That right there my friends, makes me think of “The Stand”.

I don’t want to get off topic, but at this point…we all know they want us dead. Critical thinking and anticipating possibilities is essential to our navigating this road that we are on.

Take Care Everyone,
W.A.
Know what?!
You’re right!!!

Remdesivir WAS an Ebola drug!
And it failed those tests too didn’t it?
 
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