GUNS/RLTD Chaos Erupts After Tennessee House Passes Bill That Will Allow Teachers To Carry Guns in Classrooms, Protesters Chant “Blood on Your Hands”

Macgyver

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Chaos Erupts After Tennessee House Passes Bill That Will Allow Teachers To Carry Guns in Classrooms, Protesters Chant "Blood on Your Hands"​




The Tennesse House of Representatives passed a bill on Tuesday that will allow trained teachers to carry guns inside classrooms.
In a 68-28 vote, the House passed SB1325, allowing trained teachers and other school staff to carry into the school.
Only four Tennessee House Republicans voted against the bill, and all Tennessee House Democrats voted against the bill.
The bill will now head to Governor Bill Lee’s desk, where he is expected to sign the bill into law.
: The Tennessee Republican-controlled House has passed HB 1202/SB 1325 that will allow some trained teachers and school staff members to carry handguns in the classroom.
Tennessee Governor Bill Lee can sign the bill into law or allow it to become law without… pic.twitter.com/tLtHUAP0zx
— RedWave Press (@RedWave_Press) April 23, 2024
The bill requires teachers and staff who wish to be armed in school to first receive permission from the school’s superintendent and principal.
It also requires teachers and staff to complete training in school policing, undergo a background check, and have a psychological examination.
Per The Tennessean:
Tennessee House Republicans on Tuesday passed legislation to allow some trained teachers and school staff to carry handguns despite pleas from Democrats, students and gun-reform advocates to defeat the bill.
Dozens of protestors in the galleries began chanting “Blood on your hands” as soon as the legislation passed, prompting House Speaker Cameron Sexton, R-Crossville, to order state troopers to clear the galleries. Many protestors continued to chant and stomp down at lawmakers as the House floor fell into chaos over parliamentary issues.
Four Republicans ultimately crossed the aisle to join Democrats in voting against the bill, with another three abstaining from the vote. Still, the measure easily sailed through the House on a 68-28 vote and is all but guaranteed to become law within weeks, as Gov. Bill Lee can either sign it into law or allow it to become law without his signature. Lee has never vetoed a bill.
Armed teachers, who will be required to undergo training that some opponents have argued is not intensive enough, will be allowed to carry handguns in their classrooms and in most campus situations without informing parents and most of their colleagues they’re armed.
Moments after the House passed the bill, protestors flooded the Tennessee House gallery and started to chant, “Blood on your hands.”
WATCH:
WATCH: “BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS!! VOTE THEM OUT!!”
More footage of chaos erupting and a die-in ensuing as the @tnhousegop passes the wildly unpopular @RyanWilliamsTN arming teachers bill as angry students and parents looked on from the full gallery. pic.twitter.com/MxRKfwE8Es
— The Tennessee Holler (@TheTNHoller) April 23, 2024
⚡️JUST NOW: “BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS!!!”
Chaos erupts in the Tennessee House as Republicans pass the @RyanWilliamsTN arming teachers bill against the will of the people, with hundreds of students and parents looking on. pic.twitter.com/Iv7FzGLYYb
— The Tennessee Holler (@TheTNHoller) April 23, 2024
The Tenessee House bill comes a year after a transgender killed three children and three adults at The Covenant School in Nashville, Tennessee.
 

Jackpine Savage

Veteran Member
The anti-gunners said the same nonsense about concealed carry. I think this is a step in the right direction to protect the kids.


Utah governor signs bill encouraging teachers to carry guns in classrooms​

The Utah governor, Spencer Cox, has signed a controversial bill aimed at encouraging teachers to carry a gun or keep one in their classroom.

The legislation will fund annual training for teachers on how to defend classrooms against active threats, as well as safely use firearms in a school setting.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/19/teachers-utah-guns-school-shootings
The proposal builds upon a state law enacted last year that waived concealed-carry permit fees for teachers.

Taken together, the laws are aimed at incentivizing teachers to bring guns into their classrooms – a move that has been hotly contested by gun violence prevention advocates, who argue that more guns on campus does not equal better safety for students.

Utah is one of 16 states that allow school employees to carry guns in K-12 schools. State law currently allows people to carry firearms on public-school property if they have permission from school administrators or hold a concealed firearm permit, which requires a criminal background check and completion of a firearms familiarity course.

The new bill does not prevent teachers with a permit who are not involved in the program from carrying a gun on school grounds. Those who participate in the training program will be shielded from civil liability if they use the gun at school while “acting in good faith” and without gross negligence, according to the bill.

School districts also cannot be held liable if a participating teacher fires their weapon.

“We worked closely with the department of public safety to make sure we have all the necessary safeguards in place in this bill,” Cox’s office said in a statement. “We all want schools where our kids are safe and can thrive.”

Utah’s public schools have not seen any mass shootings on campus. But two students were killed and one was injured after they were shot by a then 14-year-old in a January 2022 shooting outside a high school. The next year, several schools were the targets of automated hoax calls reporting an active shooter.

The bill would cost the department of public safety about $100,000 annually. County sheriffs would appoint instructors to lead the course, which participating teachers would be expected to retake each year.

Some Utah educators, including retired public school teacher Stan Holmes, voiced concern that the half-day training would not be enough to prepare teachers to respond properly in an emergency. Holmes, a US army veteran, said he had taken a tactical training course offered by the state, which he referred to as “a joke”.

“I left unconvinced that all graduates could handle themselves in a crisis situation,” he said. “Parents of children in Utah schools have no reason to trust that the so-called educator-protector program trainings would be any better.”

Teachers participating in the program who choose not to carry the gun on their person would be required to store it in a biometric gun safe, which uses unique biological data such as a fingerprint or retinal scan to verify the owner’s identity. They would have to pay out-of-pocket for the storage device.

Jaden Christensen, a volunteer with the Utah chapter of Moms Demand Action, said in a statement published by Everytown for Gun Safety: “Let’s keep our educators centered on what they do best – teaching. We should be working on finding ways to keep guns out of the wrong hands and out of the classroom – not inviting them into our schools.

“It’s shameful that this new law will do the opposite.”

HB 119 is one of two bills that focuses on how to navigate campus-safety guns being in the hands and classrooms of teachers. The other, HB 84, which was signed on 13 March, updates the parameters for storing a gun in a classroom and creates a protocol for teachers, staff and parents to report concerning or threatening behavior.

In a statement to the Guardian, Cox’s office referred to HB 84 as a “significant piece of a multi-pronged effort to increase school security”.
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
I do not think they should have to ask permission but volunteer to be a active armed guard on campus and undergo firearms training and the teacher is allowed to conceal carry, open carry of firearms on campus is forbidden.
Crazy people wanting to shoot up a school should find themselves facing armed teachers and not know who has a sidearm on them.
 

Groucho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
A few years back, when I was training people in the proper handling and operation of firearms and getting their CCW, we taught several teachers and staff who were tasked with carrying in school. It was done quietly and legally. I don't know how it's going now since I'm out of the training now.
 

Illini Warrior

Illini Warrior
problem I've seen with these school carrys is the lack of regs requiring a personal body carry or a secure lockup >> just gives teachers the right to have a firearm on school property ....

no matter how much everyone will be wanting the firearm carry to be uber private info - it'll get around sooner or later that Ole' Lady _____ has a gun in her purse or Coach ______ puts his piece in his bottom desk drawer after he gets to school ....

if a quality safe install came as part of the regs - knock out a huge possible problem
 

Luddite

Veteran Member
There are few in the superintendent and principal positions that aren't complete and total libtards.
Any person in a position of leadership that denies another person the right to efficient self-defense should be "on the hook" for said defense.

Deny an employee the right to efficient self-defense and expect liability if that person gets hurt.

The problem with a training regime is you don't want to take a Coach Feis and make him a Scot Peterson.

If the names don't ring a bell refresh your memory on the Parkland shooting...
 

CaryC

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problem I've seen with these school carrys is the lack of regs requiring a personal body carry or a secure lockup >> just gives teachers the right to have a firearm on school property ....

no matter how much everyone will be wanting the firearm carry to be uber private info - it'll get around sooner or later that Ole' Lady _____ has a gun in her purse or Coach ______ puts his piece in his bottom desk drawer after he gets to school ....

if a quality safe install came as part of the regs - knock out a huge possible problem
A quality safe install? Wouldn't do anything against a school shooter.

Excuse me, can you wait just a sec. while I unlock my desk and load my weapon? Please?

Needs to be visible and strapped to a leg. If a long gun hung over their back.

That is not to say that teachers don't need to go through a safety training program to carry on campus, besides the CCW training.

Maybe even hang some targets on the wall with bullet holes in them to show how good the teacher is.

A good student, as with a good citizen, need have no fear from someone/teacher who is carrying a CCW, even in open carry mode.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
My answer: hire retired vets and pay them to patrol the schools. Teachers can carry if they want, but it needs to be totally voluntary. There are some teachers I don't want to see armed, period. In one case, her heart is in the right place, but she can't see well and won't admit it. I can see her shooting a first responder by accident.
 

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CaryC

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My answer: hire retired vets and pay them to patrol the schools. Teachers can carry if they want, but it needs to be totally voluntary. There are some teachers I don't want to see armed, period. In one case, her heart is in the right place, but she can't see well and won't admit it. I can see her shooting a first responder by accident.
Like I said a good training program as well as a CCW safety course.

Which would weed out those who are physically unable to complete thus carry.

We had an older lady in our CCW safety course, that had just bought a revolver, for the course, and never fired it. During the course she found out she did not have the strength in her hands to work the revolver in double action mode. The place giving the course, bought the gun from her, and sold her a striker fired auto. Since it was an indoor shooting range, she got to try it out right there. All good.
 

day late

money? whats that?
“Blood on Your Hands”

Okay, let me see here. Since the shooter is already determined to do an evil deed, the teacher is left with only two choices. First choice. The blood of a potential mass murderer on their hands, and the kids go home that night. Second choice. The blood of who knows how many innocent lives on their hands because they did NOTHING except let the innocent die.

This choice is not easy to live with. Either way, there is blood on the ground. I know what I would choose. The children live, even if it requires the ultimate price from me. NO exceptions, NO excuses.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.

Chaos Erupts After Tennessee House Passes Bill That Will Allow Teachers To Carry Guns in Classrooms, Protesters Chant "Blood on Your Hands"​


Talk about drama queens! It passed here in Iowa, the demoncrats were angry about it, but not nearly this dramatic. In listening to some of the schools who were pro gun in the classrooms, they plan to have extensive training for the teachers carrying and in most cases it will either be school security, why they are unarmed is beyond me, or the principal who will be carrying.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
Talk about drama queens! It passed here in Iowa, the demoncrats were angry about it, but not nearly this dramatic. In listening to some of the schools who were pro gun in the classrooms, they plan to have extensive training for the teachers carrying and in most cases it will either be school security, why they are unarmed is beyond me, or the principal who will be carrying.

Some of them are unarmed because they are someone's worthless niece or nephew that was given a job at the college as "family welfare." This is the same as sticking someone's worthless child in the mail room at a company.

In the 80s and for most of the 90s, security was generally an easy job: they opened locked doors for professors, kept out squatters, and phoned the city cops if drunk or high students got out of hand after football games. Today, with the threat of shooters and illegal immigrants trying to move into buildings, it has become a different game.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
Oh my, that is really clever.
Now, every Tennessee Hillbilly is going to college
to get their teacher certificate
so they can carry a firearm.

Reading and math scores are going to skyrocket.
Brilliant
 
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